FGO Camelot 2 Paladin Airgetlam is a Beautiful Mess 

For me, it was actually really good. I got a Fate Movie and it had some really good use of Ost. Especially the Ost when Lancelot fought against Aggravain.

I don't no i just started the camelot singularity when the movie was out

For both films, an overall big mess where even the positives you mentioned in this video and the positives I want to give them can't nor do they really hold up because of the way so much got cut to the point you can't really connect it with the canonical story or what babylonia had set up and as much as I want to agree about the bedivere and artoria battle of giving her excalibur in what you said in the video however objectively that works on paper but like everything else in these 2 films so much got cut that it just doesnt really work and even if you are the biggest fate aficionado out there and know all the lore stuff nasu built over the years that's not what got put in these films. Heavens feel was able to work cause regardless if you agree or disagree with the choices ufotable made, the choices made in those 3 movies all had to serve a purpose of telling both a powerful but very dark story where even a few of the changes they likely did worked in their favor as a compromise for fans of the VN and those who only know fate through the anime or FGO itself. I can't recommend them to anyone mainly because it's too shallow and lacks what made the Camelot story memorable to people. Maybe down the line they'll try again cause hey happened for unlimited blade works where it got a tv adaption after the studio seen films told that story but not very successfully so it is possible for Camelot to get a 2and chance but that all depends on type moon since usually when their works aren't too successful or are met with divisive reactions they tend to step away or try to overly course correct in some way after a break.

Honestly I’m sad that the story wasn’t correct, but I was mainly only watching it for the fight scenes since I already know the story from playing the game

I honestly enjoyed it. Not just the soundtrack but the journey that Bedivere went through was vastly more improved than playing the Singularity in the FGO game. Admittedly, the only part I disliked was that they didn't provide much characterization for the other Servants. I believe it would've been better that, instead of a movie, they made each Singularity into a separate anime series like they did with Babylonia.

There's a reason why they didn't do the singularities before camelot; the stories for them are all over the place and meh, but in mobile story form game; it good enough. The later singularities get better stories.

@@Rebotified i'd argue every singularity prior to america, was capable of being 1-2 ova episodes.

I feel they only adapted this one since is pure Artoria lore more than they want to make another FGO adaptation that wasn't Babylon, I wish they would make a season of every part of the epic remanent, but that will hardly happy.

Lets just say he got Nerfed. Although Grands don't get nerfed once they lose the Grand status, they actually are strong enough to fit their requirements(a.k.a. doing their job) but loses their job application form.

@@ousamadearudesuwa except king Hassan can be a grand whenever he wants because he’s the only grand assassin

That's a very ignorant comment. They don't choose to "touch it", jimmy. They're given the job, a schedule and are expected to deliver it. They did a great job considering how abysmal their schedule was and the fact that they had to cram everything into two movies. Stop being an entitled prick. Respect people's work.

Yeah Turas realta is underrated. I loved orleans and okeanos

Was this the announced Manga adaptationa for each singularity?

@@pauloazuela8488 For all the odd-numbered ones. Meaning all the good ones really

@@JohnPeacekeeper Wait what? Do they not want to fix problems from other ones?

@@pauloazuela8488 No, no, it's because another manga is covering the even-numbered ones. Mortalis Stella. Thing is... They have to start with Septem. They also don't get to have Kiyohime.

Whoever made that point falls in one of two categories. 1. They haven’t played the singularity and aren’t aware of how much character moments were actually cut. 2. They completely know the story and every event taking place and don’t take into account that the movies will also be watched by people who know little of the story.

@@SN27671 for me i think that person actually play through the babylonia in the game but didnt actually read every thing and just focus on dialog or fight moment.

Sadly some Anime Fans only care about crazy battles and how they look.

@@nobalkain624 babylonia had better fights lol

@@randomdude2004 I’ve it’s not blasting your eyes with over the top BS like the Camelot movies then anime onlies aren’t gonna care.

That's very optimistic.

Fate fans trying to be funny

Based. It was the reason why I love it so much. If only they didn't cut a lot of important parts in the game it would be perfect

Well obvious is the world of bediviere which is a what if where all the knights were manipulated and mistreated by the dismissal of artoria who believed that he did the right thing.

It’s definitely a “ you need to have all the context” otherwise it’s just a clusterfuck of things going on

In the films defense I think all of the Arthurian lore bits are handled just fine.

Because she kinda was.

...Did you even watch these movies?

@@pedroportela6476 Nope

@@edwardtdm123...Did you even read the chapter that they were based on?

@@pedroportela6476 Nope

The only way I can imagine that is with someone like Kiritsugu who learns Magecraft in order to counteract it.

@@otakudaikun so is it possible for a normal human to use magecraft without magic circuits and if they can't is it possible for a normal human to make some sort of weapon that put them on par with someone who does have magic circuits?

I resent that lol

I wish they'd stick to the main story personally.

I see. I can't understand why.

@@otakudaikunIt's probably a very subjective thing. I liked the quick pace of Camelot over the slower slice of life style of Babylonia. Camelot does need more time to explain different character motivations or any sorta context like you said. I had to fill in the blanks myself with lore videos.

Deen UBW was technically more accurate, despite being so rushed.

Probably not. I'd rather make new content.

I bet I could do a wicked villain.

In the game I think he died fighting Agravain.

@@otakudaikun probably same in the movie, but his fight got animated & they skip his dead instead. Man they did him dirty. Would be good if he get his redemption arc, especially with Mash there. This is the only reason I can't put Camelot that high on my list.

@@arahaitham123 They didn't show his death in the game either.

@@vicount3944 Exactly. The game version is even worse, they show him surprised by Agravain's skill, but just skip what happen to him. When the movie shown their battle, I have high hopes, but they just write him off again hanging like that.

I still think even with 2 movies they could have gotten the facts straight. I'd prefer that to a good chunk of the Gawain fight.

@@otakudaikun i agree i think the gawain fight and the aggravain fight went on far too long

Yes, Solomon definitely requires having played the game. That said, I think it's a damn good adaptation considering it would seem just as "unearned" if you played only that section of the game.

@@otakudaikun it's totally worth it for players but also by the numbers if that makes sense.

Base Artoria looks plenty adult to me, but I'm glad you like her lancer form.

@@otakudaikun I don’t know man, there’s many girls at my high school who have that same look as Artoria

@Meatler Wow anime girls go to your school!?

@@TheManastein No, green eyed blond girls

@@skeletonnoise6178 Because only blonde green eyed girls can be 15... lmao.

Kinda cause Solomon and first order are more adaptation by obligation the FO was the introduction to FGO and and Solomon the continuation of Babylon, I hope they don't decide make the same with shingyoku, I really want an adaption where they show both true alters personalities, you know something more than just stabbing people like in HF.

tbh that should never really be a question. It seems very clear that all FGO adaptions, whether it be the manga or otherwise, is different from say, Zero or FSN in that it's much more for the sake of deepening the mobage story for the fans.

0 choreography? Are you blind, mate? Did you forget Bedi's fights were the last ones? The choreography in those fights is great. Do you even know what that word means?

@@vicount3944 do you? Explain where the hell lancelots horse even came from, where any aspect of the mordred/sanzang fight made sense, what moves were where in the Tristan fight, the list goes on. Bedivere battles were arguably the closest ones to choreography bar the mash/lancelot battle, but that does not excuse anything about all of the other fights. The moves looked pretty, but go and research them, there was virtually nothing about those fights that made them work besides the fluid animation. Look at the babylonia/Solomon fight animations and compare those to the camelot fights. Yeah the camelot fights were pretty, but they were terribly choreographed.

@@vla1ne This is whataboutsim. You're not proving me that there was any bad choreography. Go learn what choreography is. A horse coming out of nowhere is not "bad choreography". Stop wasting my time.

@@vicount3944 where is the whataboutism? I pointed out several bad fight scenes in the movie that I said had many bad fight scenes. The scenes I pointed out were the "highlight" fights of the movie as a matter of fact. the only reason I haven't said anything about the bedivere ones is because i don't think they were _as_ bad and I felt no need to be a snob about it. But fine. Let's begin: Explain to me how any action in the lancelot/agarvain fight was well choreographed. Within the entirety of the fight, there was not a horse in sight, the literal land breaks, the castle turns into a 3d puzzle, and all of a sudden a horse appears out of nowhere that can somehow gallop straight to agarvain despite there being not a single piece of land that could feasibly hold a horse and That horse not being in any aspect of lancelots legend. That is to say nothing of the jump cuts that lead to moments where there is 0 semblance of flow in the fight. They go from a veranda to a sky puzzle with barely a few proper scenes invetween (I know rhongo is the cause, but it does exactly squat to excuse the fight as a whole), they summon things that have 0 business being there, and the entirety of the fight has no coherence besides looking pretty. Compare that to the Solomon movie, where alexander and his horse move in ways that even if superhuman, are motioned and choreographed properly. You can follow the whole fight and not have to question how or why anyone is where they are, or how/why they got there. Next example: mordred vs sanzuang, did you even watch that fight? There were almost 0 moments that weren't either a flurry of cuts, or too close to actually tell what was being done at what time. To say nothing of how the fight straight up ignores the canon line of events, the only thing good I can say about the fight is that despite the motions being incomprehensible, the fight looked pretty. It is that simple. _you_ came to _my_ comment acting like you knew anything about choreography, yet have not even once given any explanation as to how or why you think the fights flowed properly. Watch babylonia, solomon, HF, UBW, even extra or apocrypha, and come back and tell me that the camelot fights in movie two were choreographed properly. Congrats, the basic swordfights were done somewhat decently (and I am ony granting that because I don't feel like going back to pick them apart proper), any of the other fate series have sword fights that can blow them out of the water in choreography, and most even have better animation. you know that the rest were completely terrible in terms of anything bar animation. Don't waste *my* time.

Do you know Apkpure? Even without VPN, you can download the game from there and play it even if it is not available in your country. Or use Ldplayer, Bluestack or Noxplayer to play it on pc.

It was announced as such from the start.

@@otakudaikun damn. I just remember them announcing a adaptation of the camelot in movie form and waiting for it to come to US theater.Did it get released to movie theaters here?😅

@@spartansoldier1174 Nope. They just went to Crunchyroll.

@@otakudaikun ahh that makes sense how it slipped by me.😅 appreciate the info

Crunchyroll and currently sub only.

I guess we disagree then. I don't feel it was rushed at all.

That doesn't make it any better.

@@otakudaikun just because they're wrong, doesn't mean you're right!! Lol yeah it's just an excuse to not go all out 😔 definitely needed 3 movies or a series. Great video and really appreciated the Tsukihime series!!

I’m pretty sure they were

Every FGO anime is. They're just adapting the stories players liked the best

Sister, they literally had a poll on which chapters to adapt. Babylonia got 1st place and Camelot got 2nd. The adaptations are fundamentally for the players. This ain't no huge revelation.

I think everything after The American singularity should have more of a show runtime than movie

Camelot Zero wasn't even in the game, jimmy. Ironically, there's more of it in the movie than in the game.

@@vicount3944 yeah one scene that's it polish man.

@@setsunakyuuki4369 Which is, again, more than what the game had. lmao. Cry harder.

@@vicount3944 mock me all you want but my favorite chapter of the game was ruined by what a crappy production team.

@@setsunakyuuki4369 your favorite chapter is still there Stop crying My favorite chapter doesn't even have an adaptation, lmao.

I can't say I know what that is.

How did they do King Hassan dirty?

@@otakudaikun Well, in Camelot he barely have any screen time. While in the game,he actually is a very menacing presence. And take on Gawain one on one. Even after he got the sun buff back, King Hassan still didn't give two shit about it. That's how badasa he is. And in Badylonia...his entrance at the end is extremely awesome. I"ll give the show that. But in the next episode he not only got a graphic downgrade. He really didn't do shit other that one hit on Tiamat. They won't even show he beat the shit of the 11 child. And at the final fight...they make him USE HIS MOUTH!!! WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!!!! I also like to add that Gilgamesh return at the end is soooooo anticlimactic. They even cut out his awesome speech toward Tiamat. And didn't use the special NP line he have in the game! I just don't care about FGO anime after these two. Call me when they are finally doing a summer special

Indeed, but my greatest complaint is how basic they make Ritsuka in the anime adaptions.He’s way funnier than this in the game, like the time in battle of New York when we played hot potato with Gilgamesh over who would take the blame for killing Ishtar.

@@TheManastein You lose some you get some. Look at the bright side. Atleast we have a something new unlike the No Game No Life fans waiting for a second season.

I don’t think Camelot is long enough for three films. Just increasing the run time on both should have worked. Or you you know and anime series.

At least it was very well animated and had good fight scenes

@@TheManastein okay I agree with that but everything else blasphemy.

Don’t blame the studio blame dw for deciding to make Camelot a movie.

@@frogking307 mr. Frogger sorry to burst your bubble but d.w. doesn't exist anymore new studio.

@@setsunakyuuki4369 I know but when this movie was being made it was still dw calling the shots.

I guess? Seems pretty loose if so.