Something tells me there was no Mercedes that got away from a traffic stop. Trooper had the right car. I.E. Kia Boyz in Blue here wanted to rip and run, but needed a reason why he's speeding, driving recklessly. Why else is his lights not on, even after a "traffic stop" with the "Mercedes"?
@@venturoes1912 moron. The point is, they have leeway from the law to do what they want regardless of lights and sirens. The law is black and white for many jurisdictions. They use their judgement, and they aren’t fighting in court how many seconds they had their lights on vs how many they didn’t.
FYI: "FHP is currently conducting an internal investigation into the incident. However, FHP Executive Director Dave Kerner released a statement, stating that the trooper who performed the PIT maneuver is neither under investigation nor facing possible discipline. Kerner explained, "The Trooper had a well-founded and reasonable belief that a violator was fleeing and eluding a lawful order to stop, and the Trooper performed his duties with professionalism and precision.""
And driving a kia recklessly in 2023....I understand innocent until proven guilty, but that's like dressing up in a trenchcoat and asault rifle to go undercover in sandy hook. If you go out of your way to look like the single biggest criminal of the year you MIGHT be suspected of being a criminal....especially when you start breaking the law and endangering lives.
You do understand that state police and local police are not on the same channel, right? Why would a local police agency in Miami need to know what's going on in Polk county.
@@timmattle4730 He was implying that the FHP Trooper did nothing wrong because of that situation. Sometimes I have to take a step back and realize the internet is full of illiterate people.
They’re both wrong, The police chief is an idiot, and needs to be fired immediately for not having his lights on, the Florida State trooper. Idiot needs to be fired because he doesn’t know the difference between a Mercedes and a Kia and he executed the Pit maneuver not knowing if he had the right vehicle. He could’ve done that to Mom and her children, Police behavior is really getting out of control.
If you look up Officer Alex you will see this is not the first time he has done stuff like this. He's already been fired from one Florida department for fleeing a traffic stop in June.
This is precisely what's wrong with American LEOs these days... a sense of limitless entitlement, power-tripping on the badge, lying ON CAMERA and _expecting_ to get away with it, following the bro-code and complete lack of co-operation across far too many jurisdictions.
it was no mistake.. The pig should be investigated and fired. Who else could the trooper been trying to pull over when every turn the pig makes there is a trooper behind him with lights on and only after he is pit, then he turns the light on. If the pig was on a call, then there is a log of it and if he wasnt then why is he speeding with no lights and even if he was going on a call, why was he speeding with no lights on.. Its miami so I dont expect the mafia down their with all hispanics to investigate another hispanic and I respect that
He PITed a car WITOUT LEO markings/lights/sirens, that was speeding recklessly, that he pursued for a while, that didn’t pull over to his lights and siren. How is the captain not the at fault party? Even if the original reckless driver he was called for was in a Mercedes, THIS captain was committing a crime and refused to pull over.
well, he could have been chasing the blue Benz with no lights in order to not spook the driver. if the driver saw red and blue lights in his rear view he would have must certainly taken off. though you would think he'd make his plans known to other officers via radio
@@BigChungus-zg6zw 1st thing I would do if catching up to a vehicle I "thought" needed chased would be to look at the license plate/jot down/report to dispatch in case my driving skills weren't up to par. I'm not even a LEO but I noticed it the 1st time the FHP LEO got close.
@@BigChungus-zg6zwThe ones around me you can tell by the plate and spot light...most are chargers..and I live in a small town so there are only a few unmarked and everyone knows which ones they are lol mostly detective cars ...
If you're in an unmarked unit and driving like that or part of a pursuit, you need to communicate that to other units or this is precisely what can happen. Plain clothed officers use to use the "Color Of The Day" technique to help ID themselves to other officers.
@@williamwilson6499Really, you watched the same vid everyone else watched and didn't see the Captain reach up and flick on the sun visor lights? And the Captain didn't need his lights on while responding to assist others on a call, and the unmarked does have a City Police tag on it.
@@Ray56z I'm pretty sure in every department, if you're traveling above the speed limit and breaking traffic laws, you have to have your lights or sirens on. Seems like a no-brainer here.
@@Ray56zand how do you plan on getting someone to pull over without your police lights on… you know the one tool used to indicate a police officer wants you to pull over 😂😂 not the brightest are you.
as a police captain, why would he jeopardize his job like that, rather than just simply pulling over? makes no sense whatsoever. I dont believe he was fleeing.
@rastabg23 fleeing meaning not heeding the marked vehicle with lights and sirens. He knows his lights and sirens weren't on so how is the Trooper supposed to know who he is? He should have heeded and yielded to the emergency lights and problem would have been solved.
@@Takaride A non-assigned LEO that's responding to a continuing crime-to assist- doesn't have to use their lights and siren. They don't even have to stop for red lights/stop signs, but use caution. And why wouldn't he expect the FHP LEO to not notice his unmarked still had City Police Tags on it, both just going the same way to assist on a call?
State trooper shouldnt apologize for anything. The police captain was driving reckless with no lights on. He saw a marked car behind him with lights on and kept speeding down the road. If the captain wasnt part of the chase then why was he speeding down the road? why didnt he have his lights on? why didnt he call on the radio and let the State Trooper know he was police?
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Trooper, that Captain should NOT be in a leadership role. He refused to stop, he never activated any law enforcement lights until he was facing the wrong way! If that's how he treated you, a subordinate from another agency, imagine how he treats his staff. Trooper, chin up, he made a fool out of himself, his agency should be ashamed of his behavior!
@@jsk3005so the cop is just out chasing people without his police lights on. Because that's exactly what it was he didn't have no he didn't have his police lights on and he wasn't pulling over or slowing down. You're just making up excuses for criminals
When you can’t tell the difference between the cops and the ‘bad guys’, there’s something wrong with policing. I hope the guy in the Kia gets a citation for reckless driving, but we all know that nothing will come of it.
If you turn the lights on a fleeing suspect they drive faster and more erratic and kill innocent people. Textbook that the trooper never read was that you do that and wait for a safe place for a road block and wait for back-up. His back-up was an idiot. If he had turned his lights on and chased them into a crash you'd be on here damning him for that because you don't have any clue what you're talking about because you are a moron.
And if he had had them on to begin with, as he is required to do when driving recklessly and at high speeds through busy traffic, he would have de-escalated before it even ESCALATED. It wouldn't have happened, full stop. @@JeffJefferyUK
"The Opa-locka Department (OLPD) is a full-service law enforcement agency with 54 sworn positions and 10 civilian staff serving the 4.1-square mile city." ... Not a large agency. Mr. Captain seems to feel very important about himself and his rank and his entitlement to engage in dangerous driving pursuits without activating lights and sirens. Bad cop. Even worse leader.
@@klokdeth1 So what you are saying is that as the Trooper is driving to find one vehicle, he sees the KIA driving recklessly , he is expected to just keep searching for the other car and let the KIA continue to endanger others? Great idea... smh.
Yeah that poor man was definitely like 'oh crap a captain' and just immediately went with caps narrative that it's probably his fault. Glad there is video to prove otherwise.
@@klokdeth1 The video says "blue Mercedes" at 2:03 but that's assuming whoever called in the initial report named the make correctly. I suspect this police captain was who the initial report was about to begin with. Who is he even chasing as there aren't any cars ahead of him?
even if it was late the lights de escalates the situation where the cop pulls out a gun thinking the driver is an armed suspect. it shows that was the wrong car and thus the slower cops could continue after the other vehicle.
And this is why many police departments have policies of not being able to pursue without lights and sirens. The captain was in the wrong. But on the other hand the officer did get the vehicle description wrong
That's why we call this state Flori-DUH! 29 years in law enforcement (not in FL), and I constantly shake my head in bewilderment at some of the most asinine, incompetent aspects of FL law enforcement. In this incident, there is NO justification for a police captain to engage in a pursuit in an unmarked vehicle while driving crazy like he was doing in this video WITHOUT any emergency lights or siren activated. No wonder the FHP trooper targeted that car in the dark as the suspect vehicle, and it is very lucky for all involved that neither officer or any innocent civilians in the other cars on the roadway were injured!
Trooper has nothing to be ashamed of. Police Captain didn't activate his lights the whole time while driving at excessive speeds and while blowing through red lights.
@@DunningKruger778 dumb take, regardless the car was driving recklessly and wasn't running lights until he was spun out and realized he needed to fake his way out of looking like he was at fault.
Nowhere was it mentioned, for some odd reason, about dispatch providing a description of the suspect's vehicle. If they didn't that's a mistake, but if the trooper in the video also failed to ask what vehicle the suspect was driving, that's also a mistake. What's weird is that after the PIT he said he should've been chasing a blue Mercedes. He assumed the first erratic driver he saw was the suspect, but couldn't tell the captain was driving a Kia? On top of that, was said captain driving erratically because he was also searching for the same suspect? There's so much missing information here it's almost impossible to figure out what was going on. It's really aggravating.
I say both are at fault the trooper for not positively IDing the vehicle as the suspect vehicle before pitting and the guy in the unmarked for failing to use lights and siren while in a high speed pursuit.
The police CPT was wrong to react like that…he obviously didn’t follow protocol - LEO cars have had lights, sirens, and radio since the 1950s….wide spread use of such since the 1960s. (It was nighttime, and he was flying in that car. Just glad he didn’t cause a innocent citizen to crash.)
well we know if he did all they would have said was it was the innocent person fault because they should have moved for a speeding police car with no lights or sirens on!
He probably didn't see him turn it on until after the video playback after the fact. Everything happened quite quickly. I'm sure he felt relieved that the Captain was in the wrong after watching it.
Dude, that was one of the smoothest PITs I've seen in a long time. That's a valuable cop right there. Fault is completely on the captain. Also, I'm assuming since he did the PIT maneuver that the officer was the primary vehicle in the pursuit, so if that captain was even involved in the pursuit, he should've never been in front in the first place.
Funny that you'll notice there's nobody at all in front of the captain in the unmarked car, so who is he even chasing? I wonder if they got reports from other drivers about *his* reckless driving and that's what started the whole thing.
The reason it was so smooth is cuz cop didn't expect another cop to pit him, kinda like letting himself getting pitted. A chased civilian would expect a pit any moment, making it harder.
I’m standing with the trooper since he didn’t know. Some people would make the same mistake since there was no lights nor sirens activated during this event. This is the captain’s fault and he should be held to the full extent of the responsibility and punishment he shall receive. What a shame to the captain and the embarrassment he gave to his department. That’s not how you serve your community and fellow officers..
Seems pretty obvious he knew he should have had his emergency lights on since he immediately activated them when he stopped and realized they were off.
Even with a cop behind you with lights & sirens aren’t you still supposed to atleast pull over and yield to them, until you determine otherwise if they were stopping you or not. There’s no way to discern that was a cop, let alone a captain at that. I see no wrongdoing on part of FHP. Now the captain, absolutely
@@1solosoldier yeah but still he should be using lights and siren in a high speed chase especially when he's in an unmarked car. The trooper should have positively IDed the car before pitting though.
@redtra236 he should of definitely verified before the pit, but he also might of assumed it was ANOTHER reckless driver, HE had his lights flashing and a random car seems to ALSO be driving erratically n possibly running from him.. unmarked car had PLENTY of time to turn his lights on but DIDNT, can't really blame the trooper 🙃
@@1solosoldier He still should’ve moved. A marked car that is clearly faster should be the lead car anyway. What was his plan? To PIT the suspect with his personal Kia? Even considering normal pursuit policy, he did stupid stuff and should know better.
Trooper is 100% at fault because this is MIAMI. There was a similar situation years ago where a female trooper attempted to stop a Miami-Dade marked car doing over 120 mph. He was late to pick up his child at school. The trooper was ridiculed and eventually resigned. This is why there is a shortage of FHP troopers.
@@andyvonbourske6405 But without any markings, lights, or sirens, there was no way for the trooper to know the guy in the unmarked car was a cop -- captain or otherwise.
they aren't required to turn them on. although in this situation it wouldve prevented the oopsie (im sure the first cop following was too far from the chase car so he never initiated lights, other cop got confused, end of story) but yeah cops aren't required to turn lights on to catch up to the scene of a crime, just fyi
As a uniformed patrol sergeant myself, I can tell you from my experience that most agencies have very clear policies prohibiting police officers from participating in pursuits without emergency equipment activated. We had a pursuit once where we were in an unmarked undercover car because we were on a plain clothes robbery detail when we ended up chasing a murder suspect from a shooting the same night. But we also had a detective cruiser in the lead and we were the second car. So technically we were in violation (but it was such an exigent circumstance the supervisor/Lt allowed us to continue the pursuit), BUT we had on white headlight wig wags and a siren and we were in constant radio communication with our dispatch center, Officer in Charge and outside agencies. We ended up teaming up with the SO as we left our city and they stop sticked him leading to us catching him in the next county over. It looked like this Captain didn’t have anything at all activated to distinguish him from any other motorist and didn’t properly communicate his involvement so everyone was aware. Then tried to turn on his blues after the fact to cover up his mistake. If he had blues to begin with he needed them on the entire time.
I believe it's state law actually, but I'm not sure about every single state. Also, "tax paying civilian opinion doesn't matter" eh? You're on RU-vid posting publicly. That's a hell of a way to address someone.
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Yeah, on its face, the trooper was chasing a car fleeing from him regardless of the description of the car he “should” have been chasing. Just because the trooper said “my fault” doesn’t exonerate the maniac in the Kia.
@@bikeguyhd1035 So what you are saying is that as the Trooper is driving to find one vehicle, he sees the KIA driving recklessly , he is expected to just keep searching for the other car and let the KIA continue to endanger others? Great idea... smh.
@@scarezone2559 so you’re saying he should abandon his chase for a suspect, not call in that he is doing so, and go off after someone else, also without calling that new suspect in? That’s not how it works. He thought he was chasing the original suspect and pitted that vehicle without confirming first that he had the right one. Wake up.
@@bikeguyhd1035 Yeah I say both at fault the trooper should have made sure it was the right car but the cop in the stinger should have been using lights and siren given that he was in a high speed pursuit and speeding/running lights.
Police should always have their lights on in any high speed pursuit… the FHP did what he was trained to do but the opalocka cop thought he could turn his lights on after the fact n is totally in the wrong…
YOU PEOPLE don't know actual laws and facts but just have to present your unthought through comments anyway. This Captain wasn't in the "high speed pursuit" but going to assist in the pursuit by trying to catch up or intercept. Even on an assigned call a LEO doesn't have to use lights and siren unless it's a life and death situation-and even some of those it's best not to do so. Respond or going to assist without lights and siren a LEO doesn't have to stop for red lights/stop signs, but use caution. This unmarked unit had a City Police tag on it, not the same model or color of the broadcasted fleeing car, why would the Captain think anything other than just another unit with lights and siren going the same way he was to assist in a crime event? And knowing the REQUIRMENTS for a FELONY STOP is weapon at ready-why wouldn't the Captain turn on his light to avoid weapons being drawn? God didn't put that stuff between the ears to cut down on echoes.
@@Ray56zactual laws and actual facts. Section 316.126 requires any authorized emergency vehicle, when en route to meet an existing emergency, to warn all other vehicular traffic by an audible signal, siren, exhaust whistle, or other adequate device or by a visible signal by the use of displayed blue or red lights.
@@Ray56z It would probably be safer for other drivers if a cop in an unmarked car driving recklessly like that had his lights on. Would also protect the cop in the unmarked from negligent officers trying to catch reckless drivers.
I'm no police officer but I would guess that lights and sirens being on during a high speed police pursuit is proper police protocol. Turning them on after the fact is sorta an admission of guilt. Barney Fife out here with Roscoe P. Coletrain.
he didnt have his lights on... mr captain still committed a crime EDIT: I was unaware about what some of the replys on this said, thanks for the info. Also, this was not meant to be a hatred thing like some made it out to be.
@@PerspectiveEngineerFHP and local City departments don't share the same channel. They can switch to the other channel if they even know what it is. And why would either of these? One thought he was chasing a fleer, one thought just another LEO with lights on was going the same way he was to assist on the same crime.
It wasn't the Captains assigned call, he wasn't right in the middle of the chase. He was responding to "assist" others on a crime event they were involved in-such as catch up or intercept. LEOs don't have to use lights and sirens even on an assigned call unless it's a life and death situation, hazard to others such as a blocked highway. They don't have to stop for red lights/stop signs without their lights and siren on, just use caution. This Captain, in an unmarked but with City Police license tag unit, was going to "assist" . When a marked unit with lights came up behind him the thought was apparently another unit going the same way he was to assist in a crime Sorry your vile hatred and rot didn't work out for you on this comment-but you can go elsewhere and make another needed presentation of vile hate and rot.
@@Ray56z that’s the biggest lie ever. Imagine talking about something and being so wrong about it. every state only exempts their LEO from traffic laws when a visual and audible siren are used. Look it up
I was pitted about a year ago and the cop started laughing and drove away. I went to the police station the next day to report it and the cop told me it was just practice and not to file a complaint.
There were no rear facing emergency lights activated and he didn’t turn on his front lights until AFTER the pit maneuver. Also, why didn’t the officer stop for the trooper and identify himself immediately
Why was he driving recklessly and putting everyone in danger he wasn’t running a 3 no lights on he saw his cop buddy behind him lighting him up anyone of us would’ve been thrown in prison after getting a beating…unreal
You would go to prison because you do not have the legal authority to be in vehicle pursuits. The captain does. He should have had his lights on, but he was allowed in the chase.
I’m a citizen in Opa Locka and knows of that cop and similar to what many are saying is that - they are allowed to do it, that cop and Opa Locka City Manager should let him go for disregard to everyone lives he put at risk with driving with no lights.
Officers are suppose to to obey all traffic laws unless they are using lights and sirens. Chief should be charged for all the traffic laws he broke. But as we all know there is a second level of the justice system for Thin Blue Line Gang members and gang members ALWAYS cover for fellow gang members.
It was not the Trooper’s fault. He spotted a Kia driving reckless and refused to pull over. Once the Kia got spinned out, you can see the Captain cutting on his lights, then jumped out and played the victim.
Even if it was the wrong car, he was behind a car speeding and driving recklessly without any lights or siren. Why the officer or Captain didn’t activate his lights to let the trooper know that he was another LEO
My questions are why did he not stop immediately when he saw the trooper behind him? Was he involved in the chase of the fleeing suspect? And if so why were his lights not on?
