Fiber Optic Install Stopped when Zoning showed up 

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I wouldn’t do that, I would put it right on the line! Big, and as ugly as possible!

Sad when people support corporations over individuals private property.

@@skankhunt3624We know nothing. Nothing about the property lines, easements and municipal regs about right of way for utilities. Also, the infrastructure was already in place, her right to complain or halt the project has long passed. For all we know, she bought the house after the installation of the conduits.

@@skankhunt3624 He was not installing the piping, vaults and access points, just running cable through existing ones. They look like they had been there a while, so why didn't Ms. Karen complain when they ran the piping? There had to be a reason they put it on that side of the sidewalk and not the other and either got permission or an easement. Looks like no one else on the block gets high speed, that doesn't already have it, ever. Strike a blow to the greedy homeowners.

I would.

Informed customers are always happier with the services they pay for.

You're half right.

It is not KArens fault the company put its gold mine on her property , rather than the city property they were authorized to use.

I would say careless contractors violating property of others is to blame. You mark the easement and stay where you're allowed. End of story.

​@@richd9646that access hole is never going to be moved and that's 2-3 properties that never get fibre now (until she moves out or she goes on holiday owner sneaks a install in)

you assume a lot lol.

Not realistic. The company installing the utility must have easement permits issued by the city. Then a quick call to police and I guarantee you will have access. Period!

@@warp103 What?

Or cut the lines now and arrest the tech for trespassing.

@@warp103 Here's what I'm not assuming. The inspector said it might be 3 inches on her property and maybe it should be moved just to be sure. She made reference to her property taxes. She is a liberal KAREN! DON'T TOUCH MY STUFF. I had a neighbor that mowed over the property line from time to time and I did the same. The other side the neighbor planted a tree on the line. None of us in 40 years had any problems with it. 3" MAYBE! Get a life!

And the zoning bozo should be able to look it up to verify the property line.

Sure, but they probably already know the exact distance from the center of the road to the edge of the sidewalk so they don’t have to measure the entire distance every single time. 🤦‍♂️

There is no actual easement laws the city or village has no legal right to enforce or regulate or allow anything on or in private property. They only have rights to there property. It’s a agreement between the city and utility companies not the land owners

Maybe the company already has an easement or the thing wouldn't be there in the first place. Whats the point of putting it in if you can't use it.

@@exaltedone2799 then do it all the time. I had a Sewer 4" put on my property when a new home was build on the next lot. I had to have them remove it because They did not have a easement or my permission

Not just one customer, it’s that entire block.

Who tells customer company too No carew, 'laren' or not? Wait till a Real 'karen', digging in her yard, happens to CUT cable because it's buried no deeper than 2" *Unprotected* across [her] streetside [sidewall] yard. takes Joy out of every effort of working there. {{sigh}} besides, i believe *she is Correct.* KNOW *Your RIGHTS.*

It is not KArens fault the company put its gold mine on her property , rather than the city property they were authorized to use.

look again; Boxes are on *Street side.*

@@kareno8634after they turn the corner.

​@@kareno8634I don't get you they have likely been there for 5 years +, if it wasn't for her been there they be no issue (just a karren) I would be not happy with her not getting my service and I hope the Karen house loses and gets blacklisted in the future

​@@leexgx future owner with an Italian accent in 2050: butt whyy I do?!

And contractors never do anything wrong. Whoever buried that conduit may have been off the mark. Nobody "compensates" anyone for an _easement._ The individual still owns that property - and pays taxes on it. The Karen in this video very clearly never wants to have any utilities of any kind EVER provided to that property, or any other property the own now or ever.

@@jfbeam And the time to do something would have been at the time of the installation, not years later when some poor schmuck is out there just running some cable. I own my property, but am still pestered regularly by the AT&T guys to come into my backyard to service the pole ON MY PROPERTY.

@@user-gn1pl1lp3u they are not pestering you. They are doing what needs to be done, which they have a legal right to do, and you are getting your panties in a wad for no real reason. Nobody forced you to buy this property.

@@jfbeam as a mater of FACT, i own a 1 acre parcel in a dead town(has been un incorporated) the township owns the 80 foot wide roadway and there is a sidewalk on the townships deeded property. the utility companies have an easement ON THE TOWNSHIPS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE! the rural water line is on the opposite side of the dirt road. there are NO EASEMENTS on my deed and currently no water/electric/phone/sewer/gas/cable or other utility's on my property!!! we lived there for 39 straight months, and never wanted any utility services on our property. we used rainwater, filtered and sanitized by uv light, solar power backed by a dc generator, and hughes net satellite internet! i used magic jack voip for phone service! absolutely no problems when neighbors water was down, or when every ones (except for my family) electricity was out because of downed power lines! i am a 65 year old MAN, married to "Steffy". i have worked as a boiler operator trainee at a steam powered electric generation plant , as an automobile mechanic , home construction from digging the foundations to final inspection, as a maintenance man for my moms 103 apartments in little rock arkansas, you name it in blue collar, ive done it. even industrial steel painting and sandblasting! i do NOT need any utilities from the GRID nor do i desire any. so i do not want any utility providers property on my property. mom left me close to $200,000 in 2015 free and clear. i built most of my stuff underground so its NOT see able from ground level. and satellite technology in 2016 could NOT see what i have underground. i also removed the topsoil and laid down a mylar sheet over the entire surface of my property and put the top soil back. so satellites wont bee knowing what i have below ground for quite awhile ! if i ever get any neighbors, they better NOT want to have anything on my property. no one access my property under anything but a "legal search warrant" and then they are limited to the terms of the search warrant. im NOT the average person, and im also obviously anti social! i also spent 10 years in prison, and do NOT worry about going back!

​@@steffybael1245cool story bro😂

I run a small fiber ISP. We had that happen once. Karen was annoyed that her neighbors line ran along the exterior boundary of her property. We came back the next day with maps and a surveyor to show her property boundary. She had parked cars over the area and wasnt home to avoid us. So I went to the cabinet and disconnected her dropline. She rang multiple times abusive about her internet not working. I ended up making her pay for the contractors time for the original half finished install and, surveyor and several revisits of wasted time before I reconnected her.

@@raytaylornzYou are so full of shit

​@@raytaylornzpretty big of you to admit to committing crimes on the internet.

@@skankhunt3624 What laws were broken? No one is required to sell you internet access. If you complain about the lines on or next to your property, don't be surprised when they get removed... including *your* internet. I'd blacklist them for life - period.

@@jfbeam if her bill is pay and you disconnect service that a crime. Just like if someone steal cable it call thief of service. You know that service contact you signed to get cable.

All true, but it's the utility's responsibility to stay inside them. Most likely when they bored, they didn't take the time to actually trace where they were; they just aimed for down the street staying what they thought was a wide berth from the other utilities.

@@johnhouchins3156 If a surveyor and his field crew do their job, he verifies all the utilities are within the utility or respective easements.

And the zoning guy did no due diligence. “Well, usually, bla bla bla”.

Well the burden doesn't fall on her does it.

@@skankhunt3624 Nope. It's on the zoning enforcement minion who's saying it's over the line.

also if she trying to stop it then tell her for doing so she must pay $500+ for wasting my time by stopping & talking to someone else & not on my job also i tell her i tell my boss where u live to take that house off the list do not get net unit say so

@skankhunt3624 yes it does as she's the one making the allegation. Therefore, the burden of proof falls on her

damn shame the only place it would fit was in front if her driveway. Shouldn't take more than 4 weeks to finish. You can always drive through your lawn and hope your neighbor will let you use their driveway to get out.

The largest box doesn't cut it. 'For technical reasons an above ground distribution station of 10' x 8' x 9' is needed. Right in her front yard.'

So you'd let a random company take your land for profit? I see you are a Communist.

It’s costing her zero as it should be

Have...... Would HAVE....

From a few fragments of the conversation we could hear between the zoning guy and the karen, It sounded like the original duct installers had completed most of it while she was out one day and arrived home to find them finishing up.

You'd have thought that there would've been notice to all property owners of the works coming up though, surely?

@@MrPete81 Keep thinking that. They don't tell anybody anything. AT&T hung flyers on our doors *5 YEARS* before they could be bothered to actually do it. When they did, a crew showed up about 6am, and were done around 6pm. If you weren't home, or didn't see them when you left and/or returned from work, you'd never know they had ever been here. Those guys did an outstanding job. Google Fiber... no flyers, no warning, just a week long clusterf... holes in pavement, muddy pits of yards, and the idiots went outside their permitted area and cut the coax cable hardline. (I was waiting for them to hit the underground power line.) About the only warning you'll get is when 811 starts "tagging" the area. 'tho that won't tell you much as all this stuff is done by contractors.

@@raytaylornz Wow and she just decided not to call then? Sounds like she's not the brightest fibre strand in the cable.

From what I could hear in the background conversation she did complain about it when the boxes were installed. Guess whatbprobably happened the company said indont care. Well now they have to deal with a zoning inspector that does care

Assuming they're within the easement. It doesn't look like it.

Ha! That’s my line.

Really? Then why did zoning agree with her?

It is not KArens fault the company put its gold mine on her property , rather than the city property they were authorized to use.

​@@johnm.4141they didn't they was unsure (so unsure means no) but in this case the access point wasn't been installed it been there for years it was a cable pull, he should have just finished the cable pull and said I won't be installing anything at this property today (add to report that address should be blacklisted)

I'd have said fine. Then not paid them, and let her house be sold at auction. But i'm not a nice guy. 😝

There’s likely power, water, gas, and/or whatever other utilities already there.

Pain in the ass to also have to cross the footpath for each install so if the easement allows, it makes sense to drill the conduits on the house side of the footpath.

@@raytaylornz Not if the easement isn't there.

I can't stand people like you. Let me guess you are the type if a department store thinks you are stealing they have the right to detain you? Then it's a civil matter and you just need to take them to court. Liberals like you need to move out of this country

Except when you want to put a fence in. That throws the straight line from the sidewalk out that amount the entire length. Thats way more than one square foot of yard you are loosing. Ask me how I know

Don't forget the underground conduit that get's in the way when you want to plant or place a fence post, or...

On the vacant corner lot I recently bought, on one street it’s 6’ from the sidewalk to my front property line. On the other street it’s only 8”.

Her time is not valuable. I hope that the move is scheduled several years from now so that she and the rest of her neighbors won't have fiber optic service. (I also hope said neighbors find out that she is the one responsible)

Did you hear her ask if they were going to pay her property taxes? Geez.

I mean its basically a company coming in and running a for profit business on your property without compensation in any form, is it some giant food truck in your driveway, no, but that isnt the point. they are using your property, that you own, and you pay for, to enrich themselves, my question to you is why should that be acceptable, because if 3 inches is acceptable now, what if 12 inches is acceptable later, and then 3ft, or maybe the best route would be to run something directly under your house and year 1 goes fine but year 15 they have to dig it up and your house is in the way, whatever you give up on may never be yours again, so why do you have to be the one yield when you are the only one that is losing something.

It creates a public easement that she has to pay taxes on yet can't do with as she pleases.

@@jarstore Yeah! Like the water line easement! They should not allow that and just make you truck water in instead!. And sewer. Install a tank you have to have pumped every month or so.

Are you serious? It was the zoning guy that said no. You are the problem

The city has to follow rules too. They have to stay within the easement.

Contractors get paid when customer is activated.

@@naturallyrootedgrowers then Karen should pay for the lost earning, or whoever incorrectly placed the hole in the ground.

I would've pulled the permit package for the fiber install before coming out and wandering around.

Sounds like while she was at work or away from home one day.

Looked like OH or NY to me.

Says the socialist minion. She owns the land that the pull box may be infringing on.

I can honestly say I've never done survey for private utilities. I know power companies I've dealt with have their own on staff surveyor, but I've never seen them mark PL's. Never seen cable companies do that either. A place I recently rented they did a fiber install, no markings except for other underground. Given the extent of what they did, they easily could have encroached on private property, happens way more than people know.

Usually the easement or property lines extend past the sidewalk so the city can replace the sidewalk, which includes installing forms past the sidewalk. How far that easement goes is a different question, but the city doesn't want the box right next to the sidewalk for the same reason.

you are assuming i can tell you, this has happen to me with a sewer line. i had them remove it why they did not have a easement

It’s a dispute on the width of the easement. The city will come out and measure to resolve the question.

Well, I guess it only takes 3" to satisfy her.

Its not even 3". Its a 6" by 6" circle THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR YEARS! THIS is why I live in the country.

It's called "billable hours." A contractor job is worth so much, and the labour is part of the contract. If the contract can not be completed, then the worker can not bill against it. This was true when I worked as an installer for Rogers Cable, and when I was an audio-video tech wiring up hospitals. The company has to generate revenue from the worker's work, before the worker gets paid from the final invoice.

That depends on how the lot was originally platted. My property ends about 8-12" from the sidewalk. The city owns everything else, but has an easement in their property for utilities who can rent that space. No one uses the easement area in front of my house, only in the back, which is adjacent to an alley. All utilities are outside of my property lines, except where the branch off to my house. My previous house didn't have an alley, and there was an easement on my property in the back for utilities. The electricity, phone, and cable went through that easement. I wasn't able to put any permanent structure on the easement, but that was the only restriction on me.

There may be other utilities underground on the other side of the sidewalk, and they don't want this to be in the way if they need to bring in a backhoe to dig up a water line.