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My heart breaks for those 3 little boys who will no longer have their father.

No one used their heads here! Two mothers murdered and for what??? How does one evil woman lead 4 people to murder??? Is she blackmailing them? Is she that convincing??? So heartbreaking 💔 rest peacefully Veronica n Jillian 😢

How could he be a really good dad if he was that foolish

@@itchysheets1222exactly

Misfits are not educated, to think they could get away with this.

Not family. Property. Must have become a minimalist.

I have a hard time believing his wife didn't know all about it.

For a cult

☝ This! I have narcissistic parents and to them I was always their property. They made me believe that they have the right to choose what I wear, what kind of a career I will have etc. Yet at the same time they themselves were ‘sovereign’, above the law. So, in reality they get all the rights, others get none. This is what narcissism is and it is in the very core of every cult.

Sounds like my ex-husband

What 16 yo

@@PATRICIAFAW-sj6rq:Cora Twombly daughter that told police what the 4 did.

She may feel she has nothing to lose at this point, but in jail they listen to your calls and read your mail for reasons just like that.

No kidding!!,

@tamipeterson5872 How brave of this 16 year old girl! She is a heroine, knowing what this group of 5 people were capable of doing to her. Thankfully she listened to her conscience instead of the fake religion of the “Misfits” (I refuse to put God’s name in it.). Evidently make up their own rules instead of God’s “Thou shalt not kill”. 😢

Yep. threw his family away for what?

Yeah, but the mom will probably just start seeing another man just as crazy as dad. Poor kids are going to grow up mislead.

Hope he's dispatched instead and not jail (DP).

​@@AFloridaSonPerhaps being away from him little by little she'll realize how screwed up that whole organization is. Especially after she reads his conference.

I think she knew all about it. They seem to do everything on the family plan.

The father knew he wasn't capable of parenting with his drug addiction. To protect the children, his mother was the best option. Otherwise, they would have been in foster care. And no way Jillian was informed of the history.

Yeah , why should give the custody of the kids to a woman who couldn't protect her own son from addiction 😢

Absolutely agree with your chat response. Well said. 100 %

​@@Bone89Veronicas father could have had custody. Grandma lied to get custody. Ironic the kids are now with Veronicas family, where they should have been all along.

Seriously! It just shows how far, far from reality these murderers are.

No sense at all

There are allegations. No idea of any of it is true, but I believe more is going to come out in this case.

@@EllieM_Travels You must be one of them.

@@EllieM_Travels Did you watch this video? … He confessed to the police he was involved !

Same with Biden voters, make it all make sense anymore. People have lost all brain cells on this planet..

Agreed. The trial should move elsewhere if there is one.

I had not thought about that, but that’s a very good point that should be considered. The juries for these trials need to be comprised of sound-minded, sane people. Can the prosecution find enough of them in this county?

I mean no one thinks someone they know would do such things.

​@@terintiaflavius3349I know a couple I wouldn't put it past to do something as such. 😢I know one right now all too well I actually realized I was scared today. Different story but same plot basically but I could be over thinking, been told I do that too often🙄

Agreef

Indeed😢

It is so very sad.

I don’t like people who talk about other peoples kids it’s trashy

And even more horrific, some of us know people that are seriously capable of doing the same, but no one will do anything on suspension though😢 warnings mean nothing. Who knows one day it might be me😢

Evil Granny

Excellent point. And she absolutely does not deserve that title.

My kids have a "grandma tiffany" and she had her issues but nothing like this one. God bless my grandma Tiffany's soul. May she rest in everlasting peace.

She hates being called Granny

Yes, he sounds more like a government employee

How is it any different then men thinking the wife is property? men may deny this but it shows itself in how they treat them.

Evil.

​@magicmarker7047 Just as many women feel the same about men.

@@magicmarker7047 It's not any different, and no one here said it was.

Completely 😢

I have a feeling there will be enough evidence so they won't need to plea bargain...unless someone wants to admit guilt to avoid death penalty

They believe in their own twisted version of God because they do not truly know God nor follow him.

Yeah, their god is not my God!

Nor. Mine

Sorry to have to remind you of this, but people have been killing in the name of God for as long as they've been believing in him. Believing in God doesn't make you a good person, and bad people will use whatever justifications they feel they need. You can believe in God and still let Satan guide your actions. It's a sad fact, but an important one to keep in mind; a lot of evil is done by people who think they're doing good. We all need to look into our hearts and make sure we're on the right side. I really hope you haven't taken any of this as personal criticism. You seem like a good one. God bless you and yours.

Even Satan believes in God….there’s a difference in believing in God and having a relationship with him.

I was thinking the same. Probably skeletons in their closets😮

I believe FBI needs too do a deep dive corner too corner of any property these evil monsters was affiliated with

@@LaughingblueSu You mean skeletal remains all over that “No Man’s Land”

Deliverance, yep.

The Judge is a municipal judge from Kansas, not Oklahoma. I’m not sure what business he had with him, but he isn’t part of the case.

Absolutely😢

Get some help… 🤦‍♂️

The shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men.

Especially in Oklahoma

@@kinggordon6833 nah, im good, just have to avoid places like Oklahoma🤣

They didn't want to leave any witnesses.

@@naturistfredmost criminals don’t.

the grandma hated jillian cause jillian supported veronica

thought they wouldn't get caught

Oklahoma doesn't allow cameras in the courtroom, but I wish they would.

I agree. I don't like the station, but Brian is great!

@Destiny-bt7oi - I agree with you - Brian is a stand up guy - they have a new guy, Leland, and every time I have seen him, he says things that aren’t true - that I know for a fact aren’t true. He loves to sensationalize everything…I hope NN ditches him before he gives them more of a bad name, because he will.

He just a journalist 😅 That’s all .

Agree

He was mention in the affidavit, I’m assuming he was working, with the police to help gather evidence

@@stout8807 It seems they didn’t arrest anyone until they had enough evidence to put them away. The 16 year old daughter named this guy as sitting at the table in the planning & he drove the horse trailer that blocked the road. He wouldn’t help police, he is pinned to the wall with evidence thank goodness. These people need to go away forever.

I also wonder if they were buried alive. I sure hope not. It's already so horrific!

Walmart hammer, not an American made one.

Yes, but they could have been unconscious when they were buried

Can you stop being so obviously excited by the prospect ​@@supremlyfoxylass

Why be that brutal?

I believe their plan was to keep them in the vehicle & put it in the trailer & haul it to the 10ft hole they dug. Like they would've just vanished.

And it didn't even involve him!! Just insane. I feel so sorry for all the children in this case. And worried for the 16-year-old who had the conscience and courage to tell the police who was involved. I wouldn't put it past these evil bastards to put a hit out on her.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

Because they believe in that sovereign citizen stuff too.

@@cocoknows makes perfect sense .

Exactly

They follow the god of this age, the devil!

And all those innocent children who lost their mothers😢

He was removed from the case for saying he still considered one of them a good friend. Def look him up

Previous veteran. He and the guy had a helicopter business together. He knew nothing about this.

Municipal Court judge in Elkhart, Kansas. He would have handled things like traffic tickets, noise complaints, somebody not mowing their lawn. He’s not a lawyer - just been through a short course about how Municipal courts work. He was in a different state (Kansas) than the state where the murder cases are pending (Oklahoma). He would not have been involved in any custody cases. Really kind of irrelevant, if he had had the good sense to say, “no comment” to the reporter.

That judge is apart of this sick town, and I guarantee that their are more bodies

@@TMann-eg1gi Exactly! "No comment" would've been the perfect response

Families of victims need to $$$$$$ get a good lawyer.

Oklahoma is very much for the DP. Second in the country only behind Texas! 1st Degree murder is punishable only by DP, life without parole.

Good point!

I"m guessing that is why they confessed

I think they’re confessing because they want to make a statement regarding their mistrust of the government.

@gypsyscometotown I wonder who is taking care of the 16 yr. old Twombley girl & making sure she's SAFE???

They are confessing because they want the investigation to end with them. They are f@lling on their sw0rds to keep any investigation from reaching their higher ranks.

@@PresleysMom I’m sure she’s with her father, but I’m not sure anybody safe in that community because they are all bestie friends with the murderers🙄

@@EllieM_Travels They only mistrust the government when it’s convenient🙄 That’s just a game, they have all the judges in the pocket, a judge was from another town was at the house when they executed the search warrants. The reason that judge was there was because Veronica was trying to get the venue change to the courthouse where he worked. These people are just conniving to highest degree. People from that town have told me that nobody wants to open their mouth because they’re not safe, the powers that be are best friends with these crazy people, that makes them crazy to.

For real

scary

Do tell.

Probably involved. Not coming forward makes her an accessory to the crime.

If Paul was a member of God's Misfits, I'm sure the wife was as well.

Those kids might end up in foster homes before it’s over.

How could she not know????

if she was not doing something, she would have had custody of her kids and wouldnt need to have a chaperone to go have visitation. i am pretty sure EVERYONE was dysfunctional in this deal.

@@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive judge was under grandmas influence

@@bbloodyangel1 her good looks had a judge mesmerized?

@@ASouthernBoyCanSurvive the grandmother claimed the children's uncle (mother's brother) was molesting one of the kids.

@rhondaflesher8313 yes I know and the judge must believe it also.hence why the mother had no custody and could not even visit the kids without a chaperone...

100% agree with your chat response. These people were not believers of God. What they did to these two mothers was something out of a movie. This is insanity.

You've just defined the Papacy.

Only when punishing criminals and the un-empathetic judgemental bullies of this world with their delusional social hierarchy based on preppy appearance, small talk, fashion, women hogging, talking crap about loners, making fun of loners. I have prayed against those who messed with me, wronged me and gotten me like 14 obituaries, of them or loved ones. The Universe doesn't like these people, God is the universe, our spirits are EMF, our thoughts are EMF, the neurological electrical signals that induce a bio-chemical response. Our Universe, the non-physical is always some kind of EMF, some of it is what they have called Demons, but it is all apart of God and his creation. Even the empty space inside atoms that create everything. God is real, God is concious.

While they were making up their own interpretation of what they think God should be, they forgot that he won't accept their evil deeds. Vengeance is his and he will repay! The true God is not about evil things, but if evil is what a person chooses he will let that evil destroy them. We all have the choice to choose good or evil

@@lucycan6363 Thank you for sharing this excellent response. You are absolutely right. Excellent writing.

So sad

There has been equal mention for both of them. This whole case was mainly surrounding Veronica since it was her children, her court case.

Apparently grandma thought she deserved to die cause she supported veronica. She targeted Jillian too.

@@JenJenCoco no there hasn’t.

Unfortunately Jillian was collateral damage. I feel for grandma is devil on earth. Maybe the others worshiped her. This is the main focus of a cult. They do what they are told to please the one or ones they worship. So very sad and scary. Thoughts and prayers for the victims. 😢

It's sad.

He probably could care less.

They might be better off without him as a father. I hope that is the case.

Good point. Although one wonders whether they do pay taxes. Some of these Sovereign Citizen types refuse to.

plus they drive on roads and the people who buy their products drive to their farms to buy them

@@gregdahlen4375 yeah, they would have to have driver's license, license plates on vehicles, and I doubt they make their own clothes and candles etc.

I heard to expect more arrests.

his statement was disgusting. 🤮

The mom of the three boys will try to collect on those.

Has it ever been any different? History says no.

Meth

@@dianabeurman364 Or just evil. Being that evil rots you from the inside.

Veronica.

I hate our government currently but no way am I losing my freedom over it.