Once David ruined it when I chose Clint's deal, I wanted him gone. There was no way for him to live with the love triangle going on. I do like how the "i love you" brings on more drama than the fight. I thought fighting would feel better
Andrew Neilan i think if nobody else could I at least expected clementine to kill David cause he fucking deserved it, but he died anyway soooooo not too bad
Loyal Fan Great team david is asshole but not a total one to me he reminds me my older bro in some ways they could have make it work if she had try to talk to david but no fuck her bros before hoes
Asiana Witt Yeah. For a moment I really, really hoped against all hope that saying I love you to David 3 consecutive times would convince him not to hate Javi. To just be brother's again. The first time, it looked like it was working, but then it went down the drain. 😢 Dang man!
Here's another Version... Telltale: *Kills Lee* Us: I love you.. Telltale: *Kills Kenny* Us: I... I love you... Telltale: *Kills Another Major Character* *Gunshot*
King Bradberry yeah telltale just really doesn't care about "what side you're on", they say that your choices matter but they really don't and that annoys me.
Topaz Beast You've got a point but I still think Lee would have won, the guy won every fight he was in. If Javier can get a few hits on David then Lee definitely can.
David was not going all out against Javier. He could've used the moves we saw him do on Max and them but this was his brother; he was not fighting to kill. I say David would win against Lee but it would be close considering Lee built considerable fighting skills in the post apocalyptic world.
David was a very good fighter but I still think he would have lost to Lee. And if David was not going all out and if he wasn't fighting to kill then he wouldn't have got out a weapon which is fully capable of killing someone.
Hamza Khaliq idk david was a solider Lee was a history professor i think i dont know for sure i would say it would be who had more experience for who would win
I don't care what people say about not having clem as he protagonist, I think it was better this way and I love Javi as a character a lot because his values remind me a lot of myself in a way.
I like Javi as a character cause we are both Hispanic and have the same skin color I don't like playing as white people black people or females in games only hispanic people
And yet he hates it and start to beating his brother + attempt to kill his own younger brother despite didn't cheated at Kate and stays loyal to David. Which is dumb and completely so stupid
I can't sympathize with David at all. He was always reckless and hotheaded, only following his own head without thinking anything through. He was a soldier, but he also acted as his own commander: he gave himself rapidly fabricated and straightforward orders, and he followed them. He jumped at Javi's throat without a second thought. He hit Gabe in the head with a wrench without even realizing he did something he did not want to and stop to make sure he did not cause any serious injuries to his own son. He said so himself: he was no father, nor husband. Family was an illusion to David. He was ready to kill his own brother out of pure anger. He deemed that killing his own brother is more important than his son's physical wellbeing. He talks about how important blood is, yet proceeds to spill that of his brother's. David failed his family.
Wasn't much better before the dead started moving. How many times did he get pissy with Javi just the littlest stuff (looking at you bating cages flashback).
@@s-094cam5 Yeah, same with the opening scene of the game. Sure it's a little justified but Javi said himself "traffic is backed up for miles" as if Javi can just move traffic with his mind David.
@@TheMasterUnity Of all the things, I actually understand the opening scene. But like the batting cages was just the worst. Takes you there for you to unwind and gets pissy if you lose OR win. And telling him to be responsible and not to run off and re-enlist in the military but to work on his marriage "You never think about anyone but yourself" DUDE! You'd rather be freaking 20000 miles away from your wife and kids cause it's easier and you call Javi selfish?! Then there was the domino's where he just rips the doctor's letter out of Javi's hand. Why? Oh because Javi is broke and can't do anything about it so why should he know? Only has to do with THEIR father's health. Friggin' prick.
@@s-094cam5 Yeah, he calls you selfish for not wanting to instantly assume the role of him for his wife and 2 kids, no? “You never think of anyone except yourself” fuck man if that meant I was selfish I am selfish as hell. Also in the end fight with Javi and David, in my first playthrough I was completely distant to Kate, nothing romantic whatsoever and I said this. He still attacked me, dude was just looking for an excuse to beat Javi
I hated David since begininng, in my game i acted asshole to him everytime, i didn't refuse to take his hand after he punched Javi, i choose to leave with Kate because he was about to send off Javi back to the road, i didn't stand with him on the ledge because after killed Rufus, broke Ferns arm and tries to kill her, even though he could have just grab the gun without breaking her arm, i took his wife Kate because she is deserve belongs to Javi, and finally in my ending Kate and Gabriel live as for David he dies
This was my favorite part of the final episode. Very finely written and acting work. I loved it. I kept getting the impression David was going to try and kill Javi at some point, and this was it. It'seither scary, but awesome that Javi finally stops putting up with David's crap and nails him several times. OR It's heartwarming, but also sad that Javi refuses to stop loving his brother and David still hates him for supposedly taking Kate from him (even if that's not even true). It's also just sad in general that no matter what you do, David and Javi's brotherhood is destroyed and because David takes Gabe and tries to leave, it's impossible for Javi to keep all three of his remaining family members alive. He can save one or two at most, but not all three. 😢
In my play through I rejected Kate and told David that I didn't touch her and he still came at me. I said I love you all 3 times and that all made the scene 300 times more sad. Cuz when she kisses him and he just says I love you it don't make it seem as genuine. But if you stayed loyal to David and stayed just friends with Kate the whole game, it just makes it so much more sad and emotional.
When I did this I denied Kate and the relationship aswell but as I got punched in the face I thought about loving my brother but all the times he bullshitted I finally had enough so I had to put the hands on him
He doesn't give an excuse whatsoever he wanted to had argument with you despite the choices you choose of siding with him through out the episode, he still somewhat being an asshole brother towards Javi calls him a selfish and saying he always cares about himself and despite if you didn't cheat with Kate. David still wanted to fight with you which is very dumb and completely so stupid, telltale says your choices matters but the outcome of your choices is still the same.
For some reason, when Javi say "I love you" (to his brother) I keep remembering where Spongebob and Patrick were selling candy bars and Patrick said to this one guy "I Love You" (Lol)
Kate instigated this whole fight. She cause a fallout between them all because she couldn't keep her fucking mouth shut. Granted, if she'd of just spoken up to David sooner about her feelings towards him, this shit may have been avoided. David's not a perfect character, but Kate led him on to believing she still loved him and she tried having an affair with his own brother. He doesn't deserve that. I'd pick him and Gabe over Kate any day.
David: everyone get in the car thats a cheese burger order. Kate: WTF WE ARE NOT SOLDERZ OK!1 Kate:*sleps dadiv* Kate: I FUAXING HAT U ALLLL!!! David: ay my boi javi whatz she talking about. Javi: Idk. David: waht the facuk why did you touch her puzzy man im gonna kill you David: *fights* Gabe: NAAAD Javi: I love you. David: no u dont get to say that m8 David: *fights* David: *grabs stick* Kate: jesus man why are u fighting Javi: I love you. Brudder. David: SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH clemintin shoots daivd David: dafuq u did dat 4?
There is a similarity but i dont think its the same. Kate left an asshole guy she didnt love anymore for a guy who is good and love her too. Lori slept with an asshole guy she never really loved but returned to her good husband immediately when he returned. So tbh, Kate is better than Lori.
But it'll take time. You just can't get used it a few minutes after getting shot. It was even more BS that Clem survived her gunshot wound in Season 2.
@@fallentrash1673 well David was using a wrench againts Javi plus wanted to kill him by chocking with the wrench, so if David wanted to kill Javi then why Javi can't use a baseball bat ?
Well honestly i couldn't blame Kate 100% per say when you don't love her. David yet still wanted to fight with you even if you didn't cheat with her which is very dumb and completely so stupid
"omg David, stop!" *proceeds to just stand there like fucking idiots instead of breaking it up* Hell, even Clem intervened with the Jane and Kenny fight.
I'm probably the only person who got very upset with David when he whacked Gabe in the face with that wrench. I smashed that fight button faster than Kate sliding into Javi's DM's.
Agreed despite after everything Javi had done for David try to act nice to him and helping him many times, yet he still gets angry on Javi every damn time and calling him a selfish, saying that families blood is worthless to Javi and saying to Javi that he always think about himself. David is the worst character ever
SpillTheTea I know the New Frontier caused all this mess and they are blaming Javi well If they didn't had thrown molotovs and starting shooting like assholes all this could be avoided !!!
Yeah taken the car recklessly into the city full of hundreds or millions of undead hordes surrounded you without thinking. And you just doomed your family and they gets dinner time. I would rather goes to Richmond and fix it.
What I did was I said I love you once then fought against David and clem pointed the gun at David and then clem went after gabe and David I went with Kate and both gabe and Kate are alive and Kate wants a family with me so overall I think my game probably ended with the best good ending possible
That's what I got too, though I squeezed one more "I love you" in before fighting back. Although I was a little disappointed in David's death, I was satisfied with my ending overall.
Sorry for people who said they pick "I LOVE YOU" instead to fight. You are not in Javi position, when you feel the pain that someone hit you, you will not stand and said that. It's in the nature of all living creature to defend themselves when they got hurt or in danger. So i choose to fight, f David, i'm glad he died.
Agreed like i don't understand why people says that i love you choice is beautiful when David literally about to kill his own brother infront of his family which is messed up
Honestly, I broke my promise to JAvi's dad. David never earned my respect and knowing how trigger happy his temper was; this was my breaking point. It makes me glad I saved Gabe and Kate. David never earned my respect.
Justin 21 well when the interest was sparked they believed David was dead and David had moved on from his family after deciding to not go and look for them
was i the only person who genuinely really liked david? it was clear that he had his own demons. which he demonstrated in many ways, but when you looked behind his faults you see a man who was doing his best to protect his family, even though was continuously betrayed... by joan and kate to an extent. it was clear that the father was not a bad influence on david in the slightest, and that showed- with david feeling at home in the army rather than with his family. dont get me wrong he was an asshole sometimes but i really liked his character.
Jace Warthen I still hate David, but people gotta remember that this fight happened because of Kate. Kate is worse than David. At least David had reasons to be an asshole.
GreenGreed 1 She doesn't really care for David 2 She wants to risk everyone be trying to save Richmond which is way over run with walkers 3 She is annoying 4 She kiss's Javi (If you want a relationship with her) Right in front of David and mid fight she does nothing to stop David and Javi to stop fighting 5 She is basically the cause of David and Javi's conflict 6 She talks shit if David dies.
@@spotty-vq3huDavid abused her via pre-apocalypse such as in episode 2 where he angrily yells at Kate for breaking his army glass instead of worrying about her hands (eventhough it was an accident) and abandoned her during the apocalypse and never went back for his family again just so he could be with the New Frontiers, when they waited for him for 6 months. No wonder why Kate wants to be with the main character even more than she is with David. Unlike David, Javier was always caring towards her and be there for her and the kids during the apocalypse for 4 years. Yes i agree cheating is wrong she shouln't banged on his brother. But its David's fault he is the indirect cause of why Kate's cheating on Javi if David would have been good husband from the start and return for his family in the first place then Kate wouldn't have been cheated on David and the fight scene between Javi & David would had never happened.
Sorry but I'm really dissapointed that way this episode panned out. Firstly i was fkin loyal to David like hell. Always sided with him, stuck to his plan, even rejected Kate because he was her husband. Denied the relationship (which was true) and after all that, he still fkin beat me down. Seriously wtf Telltale. You might as well just be a dick to David from the start because whatever you do with him he'll always be the same dude at the end. Glad I chose the ending where he was dead, he was better off in the ground than Kate or Gabe. Next season i hope that choices actually matter more for once, Telltale.
Tbh it made it more emotional the fact you were staying loyal to David all the way and the 2 brothers fight. IF you weren't loyal to David throughout the game that scene would never be as emotional.
He doesn't give an excuse, he always wanted to have fight with you despite the choices you choose or sided with David through out the game which is very dumb and completely stupid. Telltale is bullshit they say your choices matters but the outcome is still the same and they don't want you to be peace with David which is very dumb.
Definitely a strong moment. Absolutely loved season 3s story and voice acting. Best ending was definitely Javi, David, and gabe 100%. Easily teared up when i first did this play through. Luckily had Clem go for gabe so I went for David.
As much as David was an asshole to Javier I wouldn't want to hurt my brother like that and make him hate me even more. Kate is literally Lori from the show in this situation. Definitely Bros before Hoes
I still don’t get why in the world would Gabe ever want to go with David in this situation (if not for lazy writing). I mean the guy straight up tried to murder his brother, the guy who took care of him during so long, saw him become almost crazy right in front of his eyes and even hurt him purposefully with that wrench.
Well since David is his father he wanted to be with his dad as well since they haven't met for years, i know Gabe shouldn't have go with David since it was reckless especially they were in the city that full hundreds of hordes and they could have been killed, but i do understand why he wants to go with his father.
when you keep saying i love you and up on top says you kept your promise... probably the best scene in the game. This game wasn't like season one or two, but this part really made me feel like if I were in the game :D
1:41 Gabe: he's my father clem you wouldn't understand Clem: oh a dead parent joke ha ha I get it *lee comes down from heaven and slaps the shit out of gabe*
THE XPRT GAMER I think they decided to go with that reaction because David was in the military so they probably were like "he was in there so uh INVINCIBLE (unless bitten)"
Welcome to Telltale Games! Seriously though, being an asshole is way more fun in these games, because a majority of the time the game forces shit on you that will be completely illogical if you dont act like an asshole
He doesn't give an excuse, he wanted to fight with you despite the choices you choose or side with him through out the game which very dumb and completely bullshit to be honest.
This scene took me by surprise and made me cry. I rejected Kate (I disliked her since the very beginning- how the fuck could you make advances towards your husband's little brother?!) and backed up David many times. It's so sad to see what he could have done despite telling him you loved him if it wasn't for Clem shooting that zombie. I'm just glad I managed to get Javi to keep his promise for his dad till the end.
@@Mr.Eminembruhhh Javi literally punched him 2 times, block his wrench and headbutted him. David only tackles Javi and try to break his neck with a wrench until Clementine stop it. So Lee and Kenny would beat the shit out of David just because if he has a military experience doesn't mean he is unstoppable.
Don’t push Kate away even when David turns up alive. David had it coming to find out how he let things go horribly and got what he deserved. Kate, Gabe and Javi all surviving is the best ending.
In mine, I chose to keep saying, “I love you, brother.” Made it more dramatic, but in mine, Clementine didn’t shoot David, but only pointed the gun at him. Anyone know what I did differently?