Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN Maverick - BFM Debrief, Low Level Bombing, and GLOC/Crash Scenes 4/8 

I always love your solo reviews and find them greatly entertaining. That being said, the way you and Gonky feed off each other when you two team up is pure gold!

You popped up on my feed yesterday, and you’ve been pretty entertaining. It’s been pretty cool to hear an actual fighter pilot comment on things. As for this, given your reactions in the previous video, as soon as he said ‘best fighter pilots on the planet’, I _knew_ that a ‘no’ was coming lol. Gotta ask, can you actually suspend disbelief and enjoy movies and games, or does your skill in your profession make that impossible?

Just found your videos from RU-vid algorithm.. I'm addicted you guys videos make my day!!

Not sure why people are getting butthurt. I love the movie but it's nice to be informed of "this is what should've actually happened."

@@Ananamitron exactly. I love to be educated on things, even if it means to "ruin" a movie. I always find Mover's videos entertaining

I am..... _JUST_ gonna leave this right at 69 likes😁 EDIT: Oh, _DARN_ it!😑Otherwise yeah....Mover never fails to impress us!🤣

it was so funny. good stuff!

Also, why is the enemy studying our NATOPS. Are they gonna radio in and help our pilots troubleshoot problems in the jet?

Killed me.

Glad you enjoyed it!

If you would like to read it too, the F/A-18 NATOPS is online. You can download the PDF. It reads like they wrote it for the dumbest guy in engineering class. Like it's super technical, but in that slow pace, small words way you talk a 4 year old into wearing a jacket 😂

Goose was an underrated gold mine of epic lines in the first movie, and many of them lines that still applied to the sequel.

GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!

Cmon Mav do some of that pilot sh!t!"

Supposedly real pilots gave them the call signs after heavy drinking sessions

Lol

*callsign PANCAKE* 💀💀💀

callsign "deadmeat" like Hot Shots :D

One expensive bird

Thought the same thing

100%

which itself was based on "The Damn Busters"

@@MrChickennugget360 I remember that movie with the spinning bombs

It's also exactly the same mission than in hot Shots! ;) ^^

*MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000* 🍿

Better in what?

Mover and Gonky Theather 3000!

are there footage of stuff that these guys done in the past? i´m pretty sure in a heat moment everyone dont act the perfect way

@@WorthlessDeadEnd yeeeeeeeees

I see Gonky as Crow and Mover as more of a Tom Servo

“Why are there civilians in our briefing room, Mav?”

@@Amar7605 Look at all the people complaining about not knowing terminology in this video alone. Now expand that to the millions of people watching who don't know a third of what Gonky and Mover are saying. This movie would've bombed because no one would have any idea what the hell Maverick was talking about.

Well, there an axiom in screenwriting called show don’t tell. VO with things the characters are purported to already know is simply lazy screenwriting.

@@travisneill704 On the other hand, was there really any other way to put it to accomodate even the completely uninitiated ?

@@Ad-ho7hc are you asking how to convey that in a screenplay through actions, fewer words, theme, and artistry? Yes, there is. But like most of the time when you see expositional dialogue, it's simply laziness that carries that day. Most times it's viewed as too subtle for the audience. If that's the case, then fine, you just have dumbed down dialogue. Got it. Speilberg used to get around this by adding a layer of tension to the exposition. a good example of this is Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indiana and Sala are talking about the markings on the medalion and how high the staff is supposed to be. It's completely expositional but Indy is tossing a poisoned date around and we are more worried about him eating that than what they are saying. That's more sophisticated than what they did in Maverick. Please don't get me wrong, I've seen Maverick 6 times now and love it. But it's not flawless and it's a good study to identify the weak parts.

What about the gunk from all the blood and organs? Do you have to wash it and scrub it?

Basil Exposition

True, but there probably should have been a way to do that without making it look like the "best" aviators were going through flight school.

@@prinzalbatross9526 Yes. Probably having Maverick argue with his superiors the reasons of why he chose that option would be a good way to do it naturally. He is continuously getting his attention caught by his superiors due to he way he teaches and general behaviour so it would fit much better than explaining those best aviators the basics of flight.

Yet the BEST of the Best didn't berrate him for pointing out the obvious!

Some of these criticisms don't take into account that 1. It's a movie; and 2. There are some rules in script writing to make sure the audience can follow and to build the drama. It's not a documentary.

I'm considering joining the AF and I'd try to become a pilot for the F-35. I've grown to really love that aircraft.

is that why you still use inverted mouse settings? pretend you're flying a jet?

@@shotz_o No? I never use those settings. I just have grown to be interested in joining the Air Force recently because of playing VTOL VR a lot, this movie, and learning about the job, both the drawbacks and the benefits.

@@justalpha9138 oh my bad, I wasnt actually addressing you haha, sorry about that, I meant RJN. I agree obviously, jets are cool, fair to be interested :D

@@shotz_o As much as I've grown to adore the F-35 specifically, I have other reasons as to why I might actually join the Air Force in the near future.

I think the practice canyon is not an exact copy of the real one. Just close enough for simulation. That's why they weren't close to the mountains for real. Just like practicing hitting the target was in an open desert area.

The practice canyon was pretty open compared to the real one. Its like setting up cones in a parking lot to practice racing down San Francisco streets

@@doudymac But you would still need to find a canyon with pretty much the exact same shape in order for that to work. The chances of that being the case are absolutely astronomical.

@@vsGoliath96 True. Very unlikely. Maybe if they find one that's wide enough so they easily maneuver inside.

Yeah, we just have to accept that they were able to fit their simulated route into the real terrain with _some_ tight clearances so that we have something to watch.

I've never been a pilot, so maybe someone can help me.... did "so to speak" start with Air Force Blues? Or does Barbie say it to point out sexual innuendoes in the comic because actual Air Force pilots do it?

Mind you, I was just a Forward Observer in the Army who MAY or may not have given an F-22 pilot a run for his money in a simulator, one time....

Sucks watching movies about stuff you're really experienced in. Any Army movie fucks with me... One thing that surprised me was the show Chernobyl. I've been in powerplants for 15 years, and almost everything in that movie was surprisingly accurate... the least accurate parts were probably how the shift supervisor and plant manager's treated their employees.. if one of our boilers exploded, and we felt the shockwave, the supervisors would definitely believe ANY of their guys if someone came into the control room and said, "uh.. the boiler is gone" But you could tell they either had extensive knowledge of plants, or they had some experts help them out along the way

absolutely, you speak my mind :)

His humor goes over so many people's heads lol

Just carry a couple of AGM158-er and launch them fire them from 570 miles away. If you are very scared, use the XR version and shoot them from 1200 miles from the target. Chances are there are stealth versions or they could make them for this mission.

Because blowing up Uranium isn't exactly environmentally friendly, especially if they have enough to justify an enrichment plant. Plus it's better to destroy the facility that takes ages to build then shipments that can take weeks to arrive

@@triplemoyagames4195 Like I said, as if the NAVY is going to care about the environmental status of hostile country's extremely hostile mountain valley. And, I think you missed the part where we're STILL blowing up the facility, but with a shipment IN it.

@@atigerclaw but they explain that in the film. They don't want to contaminate the area in radiation

@@triplemoyagames4195 Like I _said:_ As if the navy ACTUALLY cares about said valley. Also, you're not going to contaminate the area in radiation. You're going to implode an underground cavern and bury it in a hundred thousand tons of rock.

They said in the original reaction video back in May, that Monica had the most convincing reaction to the G Forces. While everyone else looked like they were constipated, Monica just looked slightly bothered which is what a lot of experienced pilots posting GoPro footage of themselves look like.

I agree!

I'm already set

12 G? I'd like to see some proof of that one.

@@WALTERBROADDUS you may be right, you may not be; all i can do is take his word for it. I wasn't there.

He may have survived the gs, but I guarantee the debrief from maintenance hurt a lot worse.

@@alphahotel3446 yeah, the F-14 was designed to maneuver loads of 7.5 G but was usually limited to 6.5.

@@WALTERBROADDUS so there's a video of Snort Snodgrass talking at the Smithsonian about a mission he was on in Desert Storm where he pulled 10gs to break a SAM lock and during the story he references a time when his dad was involved in the Tomcat development when the test pilots told his father that the F-14 was a 13g airframe. Once again, i know that I'm referencing a story told in an open arena that anyone can go and pull up, but once again, all i have to go on is the word of people who flew the jet and have a fair amount of stick time in the jet.

As an annnapolis grad, it just is a tough place to be and not always fun. The common statement is “a bad place to be, a good place to be from”

My F-16 can carry 75 sidewinders. But considering how they can’t hit shit for some reason despite being on their six so it’s good to have that many.

In a Viper, yes. In a Hornet, not necessarily.

@@CWLemoine Interesting! What is the difference?

@@JoshWalker1 two engines vs one. Losing both engines is exceedingly rare, but the initial action in a multi-engine aircraft isn't to trade airspeed for altitude immediately.

@@CWLemoine Oh yeah, agree. But iirc the whole thing about that scene was that it was a dual-engine event from the beginning? (Which I found comically implausible in and of itself, but which made the reaction make sense to me.)

It started off single engine.

You are correct in all regards..it's a hollywood movie..they are purely popcorn movies, intended to entertain folks and make money. They are not, and never have been factual documentaries. Take EVERYTHING in movies & games with a grain of salt & an asprin.

Those checklists are controlled material. I’m kind of surprised Mover read it out if it was the actual thing, I mean in reality it’s not like much would come from it most likely but even the trainer manuals are kept controlled.

Bob has finger on the pulse of the moment.