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Fighting Alatreon with a weapon I don't play to spite Reddit 

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Remember kids, never let a Redditor tell you Alatreon is a bad fight. They suffer from chronic skill issue and can't appreciate a good fight when they see one. Also, Longsword sucks and self respecting people shouldn't use it.
Please don't go witch hunting the guy at the start, thanks. He's wrong but you don't have to dogpile him for it, this is just me being petty, making an excuse to fight Alatreon, and showcasing that you don't actually have to be really good at the fight to win. This is just some not-so-friendly ribbing, please don't be that guy.
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@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 3 месяца назад
One time a guy SOS flared on Fatalis, then urged all 3 of us not to go in, because he was trying to solo a max-scaled Fatalis WITH INSECT GLAIVE. He damn near ran out the clock, but he did it, cartless. You can beat ANY monster, in ANY way in this game, with enough skill and determination.
@lost4356
@lost4356 3 месяца назад
Tbh fatalis is more fair than this jack of all trade Bullshit. Fatalis is hard meanwhile Alatreon is basically a tryhard
@ahmadbugshan9603
@ahmadbugshan9603 3 месяца назад
@@lost4356 nah alatreon is honestly kind of easy solo raging brachy is harder since you can punish alatreon a lot more easily fatalis is hard but it feels fair at least to me alatreon is hard until you know which attacks you can punish and which attacks you can not, which attacks to dodge and HOW TO EAT A FREAKING NULL BERRY THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE HITTING IT WITH DRAGON BLIGHT ON THEM IN INFURIATING "UGH I AM USING ELEMENTAL WEAPONS BUT I CAN'T GET A TOPPLE: "proceeds to get hit by every single dragon status inflecting attack and ignoring null berries) to be fair only the dragon status part is BS imo the whole fight, hitboxes, mechanics are very fair and fun
@lost4356
@lost4356 3 месяца назад
@@ahmadbugshan9603 alatreon has so many gimmick and solution to his problem. -DPS check but you must do it in 10 minutes or escaton judgement makes you cart, but he always jump and fly around, so you forced to do play aggresively. -horn easy thing to break it is by the wall flinch but the arena has little wall and he hard to clutch or mount, and it must be break at specific time or he element changes anyway. - you must use elemental with a minimum damage but he has any elemental blight especially dragon so you must bring null or have elemental resistance. -his annoying pin attack -you must throughly prepare for escaton judgement, even you manage to do dps check or you died nonetheless. -you get thrown in front of his face in special assigntment. I mean pick couple of them instead picking all of them. Raging brachydios and furious rajang only have those massive damage and annoying moves but that it you can play more passive and they still can be trapped and get attack by ailment
@deino5594
@deino5594 3 месяца назад
I just beat fatalis solo with no cart by myself with an insect glaive, after hearing this I now know what I must do. Who ever that man is, is an inspiration to all insect glaive users. God speed hunters
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606
@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606 3 месяца назад
@@deino5594 There is one song that has NEVER failed me, and has ALWAYS made any bossfight I play while listening to it SIGNIFICANTLY easier; "Birth Of An Age" by Clamavi De Profundis on RU-vid. I typed out its lyrics to that man while he fought, and he says it was like an extra attack up. Perhaps listening to it may allow you to perform to the best of your ability.
@sinuosalice-1434
@sinuosalice-1434 3 месяца назад
Helping random sos on alatreon is harder than most custom mod quest
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 месяца назад
Alatreon SOS flares are proof that the MHW playerbase can't read
@LTPhycho
@LTPhycho 3 месяца назад
Soooo true a lot of them dont even know they need to use element weapon
@lewis3132
@lewis3132 3 месяца назад
You know the host is not worth helping when you see him using a raging brachydios weapon.
@hoax1024
@hoax1024 3 месяца назад
A very specific charge blade playstyle is what I've been using for SOS to always reach at least 2 elemental topple no matter what, combined with a lifedust they wouldn't die from a judgement, but I'd wish them luck on other moves, it's still fun with a taroth+frostcraft db set tho.
@air1744
@air1744 3 месяца назад
​@@lewis3132 it could be worse, there also those that use defender weapon lol
@Yengi_Kizaku
@Yengi_Kizaku 3 месяца назад
Missing Helm Breaker and its thrust is so comedic
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 месяца назад
On god I have no idea how LS mains do it consistently, landing a TCS is piss easy compared to Helmbreaker
@samuraibeluga3749
@samuraibeluga3749 3 месяца назад
@@Slaking_ its the same principle as gs, good positioning a good timing. its not an alien concept, you just dont use the weapon and so dont have the muscle memory for those timings and positionings. like not timing the attack as he is just about to take flight, or not just aiming for the head for the initial thrust cause it can be a flimsy target etc also screw you for making me second guess if my discord was open.
@temphy
@temphy 3 месяца назад
​@@Slaking_Nah do not listen to the guy above me. Spirit thrust and HB are two of the most tilting moves I've ever used in gaming. Spirit thrust only to miss by a millimeter or to have the monster somehow fucking matrix dodge your blade (this has happened to me way too many times). Helmbreaker only for the monster to jump 50 feet away, or smack you out of the air, or roar, or have an exploding puddle on the ground that EXPLODES RIGHT AS YOU LAND AND CANCELS YOUR HELMBREAKER FUCK. Yet still, I wouldn't trade it for anything. Something about stabbing into a monster, using your sword as a pole to swing yourself up, and the coming down with this huge slam, plus those hitsounds on a successful HB. Truly one of the sickest moves in all of gaming.
@genericname6167
@genericname6167 3 месяца назад
​@@Slaking_tbf i mained ls through 5 characters on world and still miss 50% of the thrust by inches lol
@julpples
@julpples 2 месяца назад
​@@samuraibeluga3749 Yeah this dude is absolutely right. It's not a too dissimilar concept; but you have to think about positioning in two places (connecting the thrust and then landing the actual helmbreaker). Whereas greatsword you only have to think about the one big TCS hit. You'll see the difference in how you land them during Fatalis' roars during runs (Longsword aims for the chest for initial hit then moves to the head on the helmbreaker down, GS just has to position by the head and time the charges right). I can also see the similar thinking happening with your foresight slashes; you think of the first evasion part of the move which is great, but not connecting the rebound, or the roundslash finish. And then also weapon length does matter lol, which makes sense why at a range TCS would hit it feels like helmbreaker isnt lol. Of course, it all comes down to practice to get it during hunts :) 60 hunts with this skill level is pretty dang good!
@scragglie
@scragglie 3 месяца назад
doing anything to spite reddit is a massive W.
@Goji-Moji
@Goji-Moji 3 месяца назад
The Chad blight resistance 2 + coalescence. This man is a real gamer.
@temphy
@temphy 3 месяца назад
When I got my fatty armor and I could slot in blight res 2 + coalescence + resentment/heroics that's how I knew we were gaming
@nightlight6783
@nightlight6783 2 месяца назад
“entirely my fault but i’m still gonna bitch about it” incredibly real
@ronaldreaganvang9072
@ronaldreaganvang9072 3 месяца назад
As a longsword main I just enjoy hearing the microwave ding
@hoenam4045
@hoenam4045 3 месяца назад
bro whiffing spirit thrust is literally comedy gold. nice vid dude
@knownasdmg5516
@knownasdmg5516 2 месяца назад
and accurate to ls players lmao
@BlueDragonKnight77
@BlueDragonKnight77 3 месяца назад
Doing this solo is actually my preferred way. No people that I could potentially bother by carting and no people that bother me by carting, win/win situation xD. And if you don't hit the elemental threshold, no problem, you can take 3 of those before failing.
@z-uwu4687
@z-uwu4687 2 месяца назад
The exact reason I sometimes tell people to just sit at camp when I do carries for him 😂 I’ll normally let people fly into the arena if they wanna actually fight but if once they eat up the extra lives they getting benched the whole fight I love his fight and glad people get to enjoy him doesn’t seem to be as much hate now compared to launch most new hunters I’ve been seeing love him despite how challenging he is
@kurosan0079
@kurosan0079 2 месяца назад
I solo all the AT elder dragons for the same reason. Plus, the monster is much more predictable that way.
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 23 дня назад
@@kurosan0079yeah, a party is better when you don’t know what you’re doing. Solo is better when you know the monster well. Then a party is better again when everyone knows the monster like the back of their hand and you bully it like in TDS videos.
@w21aaaaa
@w21aaaaa 3 месяца назад
Even if I hate the Escaton Judgement mechanic, I'd honestly say Alatreon has amongst the best attack telegraphs and hitbox in the game. The combination of different sound and windups it makes have been seared into my brain.
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 23 дня назад
It’s a fucky mechanic to exist but easily one of the most overblown issues in the game. It’s really not that hard to deal with but it’s weird that it was built that way.
@IDeVaste
@IDeVaste 3 месяца назад
That first post made me laugh, the 15 raw from the canteen buff surerly flips the whole game around 😂 nice vid
@pyrrhos8175
@pyrrhos8175 3 месяца назад
But hey the Slugger comes in handy for my shoulder tackles!
@arisenprestige5717
@arisenprestige5717 3 месяца назад
MEOW
@Nikolai0169
@Nikolai0169 2 месяца назад
At least elemental resistance food is a percentage based buff with the possibility of giving immunities to their respective blights if it puts the resistance to 20% or higher. But somehow I doubt that guy would ever try to engage with the systems enough to learn that.
@OTBASH
@OTBASH 3 месяца назад
Seeing that 1 next to the hunting horn hurt my soul.
@Ashera5469
@Ashera5469 2 месяца назад
As a long sword main this made me die a little bit
@lukesanten9431
@lukesanten9431 2 месяца назад
Doot doot, brother. Doot doot.
@Sharkamfss
@Sharkamfss 2 месяца назад
0 on bow made me so upset
@axelblz8876
@axelblz8876 3 месяца назад
> Longsword sucks and self respecting people shouldn't use it My man woke up and chose to be based
@theresaapocalypse5893
@theresaapocalypse5893 3 месяца назад
More like the exact opposite. Imagine not playing a weapon you like because it's not good in that game
@vandalic8566
@vandalic8566 3 месяца назад
@@theresaapocalypse5893 longsword is good tho
@theresaapocalypse5893
@theresaapocalypse5893 3 месяца назад
@@vandalic8566 I wouldn't say good but there are definitely titles where it was worse compared to the other classes
@axelblz8876
@axelblz8876 3 месяца назад
@@theresaapocalypse5893 lmao what? This is the complete opposite dude, the guy in the video said that they didn't like the weapon but respected those who used it. Besides this isn't 4U, LS is good in world
@theresaapocalypse5893
@theresaapocalypse5893 3 месяца назад
@@axelblz8876 Frontier LS is the worst and I still main it
@DeadBeatDex
@DeadBeatDex 2 месяца назад
Moral of the story is that if you're bad at the game the monsters that are purposefully made to be hard are going to be extra hard for you. Most players like that redditor are probably used to mindlessly swinging their weapons at the bootyholes of monsters while the good players do most of the damage for them.
@kurosan0079
@kurosan0079 2 месяца назад
Exactly. I remember watching Tri Alatreon hunts on youtube, and everyone in their groups are competent hunters. Everybody contributed to both strategy and damage. These days, you have noobs in master rank that don't have master rank skills. They got carried by the SOS.
@devranyilmaz9806
@devranyilmaz9806 26 дней назад
@@kurosan0079this. I hate noobs these days (in Rise, anyway). I spend a lot of my time in low rank lobbies and responding to join requests, and all I ever see are Blackbelt/Defender gear on everyone. Then I check High Rank, same deal. Then early Master Rank, still the same gear. I swear, most noobs can’t enjoy a game properly, can’t read, never learn from mistakes and refuse to take advice. Then I see absolute mongoloids join MY quests only to cart, I check their gear and behold no decos, unupgraded armor and weapons. I simply kick low MR players now, and be extremely hostile if I so much as get a whiff of inexperience. I’d rather be called toxic than have my time wasted by some idiots that never learned how to play the game despite having every opportunity to do so.
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 18 дней назад
​@@devranyilmaz9806 works both ways don't act surprised if you are treared the same when YOU are the unskilled/unwanted one
@devranyilmaz9806
@devranyilmaz9806 18 дней назад
@@zarodgaming1844 thankfully I’m very good at the game, 2k+ hours and all.
@swiftnynja3310
@swiftnynja3310 29 дней назад
Fighting Alatreon for the first time, I listened to the NPC dialogue, and switched from my blast weapon to an elemental frost weapon. "You can't weaken it with that element" FML
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 23 дня назад
Lmao rip
@jonathonmiller2662
@jonathonmiller2662 21 день назад
If it was your very first time then Ice absolutely should've worked. Unless you mean event alatreon, in which case it swaps between fire active and ice active every 24 hours.
@carlosleebseysilva267
@carlosleebseysilva267 5 дней назад
Just as the other guy said, either you are lying or simply wrong devs make that quest so alatreon would be fire 100% fixed, this is assuming that it was your first alatreon try, as for event alatreon it starts either fire or ice and then go dragon
@alexzephyris1455
@alexzephyris1455 3 месяца назад
Your positioning and your knowledge of timing makes you a better long sword player on 60 than me with 300+
@FugitiveJarl
@FugitiveJarl 2 месяца назад
so World was my first monster hunter. shocker there, right? whenever I fought a new monster I'd dedicate the fight to being solo, so if I ever end up fighting it with other people I can carry my own weight and keep up. Alatreon was definitely an uphill battle. so was Fatalis. but give the fights enough time and anyone can overcome them, it's just a matter of figuring it out. there was one time a guy was trying to trash talk me for whatever reason to a degree he started going through my profile. he saw my solo clear screenshots of Alatreon and (probably? I can't remember when this was) Fatalis and he immediately said "oh nvm I'm not gonna back talk that" and it sorta made me look back at all that I've done throughout my journey in World and feel more confident in both my own ability, and everyone else. seriously, if you're having troubles with a quest, just dust yourself off because those palicoes are not gentle when they bring you back to camp, and keep trying. quest failure isn't something to be ashamed of, it just shows that you have more room to improve and become an even greater Hunter.
@loreleibrewer3803
@loreleibrewer3803 19 дней назад
Thank you for this. Alatreon & Fatalis are currently my walls. Hope I can figure out the fights and beat them both solo before Wilds
@FugitiveJarl
@FugitiveJarl 19 дней назад
@@loreleibrewer3803 I wish you all the best. keep a keen eye and a sharp mind.
@HirikoShuhei
@HirikoShuhei Месяц назад
Holy shit, Lance user?! Its our One in a Million player!
@itsyaboiguzma
@itsyaboiguzma 25 дней назад
Further proof of anyone using the Lance being based
@kinsan89
@kinsan89 2 месяца назад
I think the biggest slap in the face to reddit is getting the rare carve lmao
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 3 месяца назад
I can understand GS or Gunlance mains complaining that the elemental checks are siginficantly harder to meet with their weapons. I can understand someone thinking that Fatalis' damage output is a bit overtuned when compared to the rest of the game. But too fast?? Fatalis is one of the slower monsters in the game, probably only outpacing Vaal Hazaak and phase one of Shaara. Alatreon is very similar to Kushala in terms of speed, and Kushala was the second slowest of the four elders of the base game. And don't get me started on "Elemental weapons don't allow me to express myself in my build" like bro, you go on the quest, and you hit the monster; express yourself in your playstyle; noones gonna judge you by your build as long as the monster dies! But if you fail it over and over, and blame the game for it, people will look at your build, and see that you don't follow the opportunities the game gives you. Alatreon is such a well designed fight. A veried moveset that can be learned if paying attention, and a mechanic that forces you to stay on the offense. The arena is circular, so the monster can't push you into awkward corners, it has ledges to mount or play aireal and walls that allow you wallbang of you mind your positioning. Aside from tracking, every mechanik that Monster Hunter excels at is present. I feel rewarded for such a fight, and I will never understand the hate.
@metaldoji
@metaldoji 3 месяца назад
mucho texto
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 3 месяца назад
@@metaldoji tldr: Alatreon is superb, LS mains are privilleged
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ 3 месяца назад
Doing jumping wide slash 3 times on the arms clears the element check easily with a frostcraft setup while doing great dmg, I'd say that's a good matchup
@Lakita2880
@Lakita2880 3 месяца назад
Nah it'd beyond easy as fuck to topple him with GS. Use AT Velk armor, then Frostfang or Lavisioth GS depending on his starting mode, and just play crit draw. It's not peak damage but toppling him takes a hand full of draw attacks, which are very easy to pull off in-between his attacks. Or just run the Meta GS (Also AT velk armor), Use Fatalis's GS and kill him with raw damage. If you're halfway decent with the weapon, you can kill him before the second Escaton consistently. If you're really good, you can kill him before the first. The thing with Alatreon is each weapon has different modifiers to how much they deal to the topple. GS has the highest since it does abysmal damage with elements. So it really doesn't to topple him with it. Gunlance is the weapon that gets shafted the hardest since shelling doesn't deal elemental damage. So half their entire kit is completely useless.
@eli-boy7473
@eli-boy7473 3 месяца назад
@@Lakita2880 I am not the greatest at GS; maybe playing a truecharge Setup was also not the best choice. but I never failed to clear the check with GS, though it felt significantly slower than other weapons. Gunlance was the only weapon with which I had consistent issues to clear the check (because I absolutely suck at swing lance)
@birumerah2896
@birumerah2896 3 месяца назад
I don't understand why people complaining about his fight, literally just use a elemental weapons according to the certain active mode and then you're good to go
@wick4622
@wick4622 3 месяца назад
So fire,ice,lighting,water,dragon?
@birumerah2896
@birumerah2896 3 месяца назад
@@wick4622 fire when it's ice active, and ice when it's fire active that's it
@petercottantail7850
@petercottantail7850 3 месяца назад
from a game design perspective, any time a mission in any game can be auto failed abruptly, it's going to be significantly less desirable. yes you can adapt but doesn't make the process any smoother. add that to the list of things you need to know to ensure it goes well and the fact the most new people introduced to mh are world meaning less experience overall to them meet an abrupt wall and its pretty understandable why there's a divide. both sides have people that overreact to the opposing opinions of alatreon which just makes the whole dilemma even worse to read through
@minusx3403
@minusx3403 3 месяца назад
@@petercottantail7850 I think one of biggest factor that make people dont like the fight is because the MR requirements to fight alatreon is too low. They should have locked it behind 100 MR so people who fight it have more knowledge about how the game works.
@pamateriapamdrammelech5930
@pamateriapamdrammelech5930 3 месяца назад
The only part of the fight I don't like is that you're expected to kill it shortly after you break both horns, because otherwise you won't be able to prevent it from going to the other side of the active. So for example ice > dragon > ice > dragon (both horns break at this point) > ice > dragon > it will go into fire and you won't be able to prevent it, and you can't go back and change weapons. They should've made it so that you can farcaster once both its horns are broken (maybe its power weakening enables you to retreat) Other than that it's actually a fun fight, I failed the quest like 20 times before I managed to solo it though lmao.
@Al3xtheMeh
@Al3xtheMeh 27 дней назад
If my memory is correct, it wasn’t the fight itself that made it frustrating for me, it was that everyone and they’re mother said I needed to use the MR Kulve Taroth weapons but I’d missed the event so didn’t have them. I even got kicked from hunts several times because I didn’t have one equipped.
@jonathonmiller2662
@jonathonmiller2662 21 день назад
You don't explicitly need Kulve, they just happen to be the best option. You can absolutely get by with beotodus, velk, shrieking legi, and frostfang for fire active (granted for the zero affinity weapons among those you'll want either decos or armor that give affinity), silverlos (you can probably swing it with azure or regular rath too but silverlos is the better choice) and glavenus for ice active, and/or safi weapons upgraded for affinity and element. The only difference is that it takes longer and you'll have to work harder for the elemental topple. Kulve just happens to streamline it to the point that you can consistently get the first elemental topple within the first two minutes and a second or even third topple (second's more likely but three is entirely possible with a good group or super aggressive solo play) before eschaton happens.
@rezzs4213
@rezzs4213 2 месяца назад
When I'm in the mood of helping others with alatreon, and see the fkin lightbreak weapon, I'll just do it solo alatreon instead.
@pinksnake7584
@pinksnake7584 27 дней назад
When Alatreon was released, I legit solo farmed it cause it was easier than dealing with these people that would only complain instead of playing the game. I was using SnS.
@nura8578
@nura8578 3 месяца назад
Someone tell this guy that you can go into helm breaker from foresight
@ahmedsultan75
@ahmedsultan75 Месяц назад
I swear to god this run would’ve easily been sub 10 if he exploited all those free HB openings... But kudos to him still, with just 60 LS runs his level is pretty dang high.
@yourdad5799
@yourdad5799 Месяц назад
With how bad HB is to hit I use it only for knockdowns
@thefinalskarm1754
@thefinalskarm1754 3 месяца назад
Sometimes I see the words "lightbreak" in the sos flares. this monster highlights the greatest flaw of 5th gen monster hunter, the press flare button and hope someone knows what they're doing to carry you.
@jsj0520
@jsj0520 2 месяца назад
So many times when people complain about difficulty they’re just admitting to the fact that they lack patience and or get frustrated / mad easily. I’ve definitely gotten frustrated at souls like games before, and monster hunter as well. But instead of trying to defend an ego made of glass and complain on the internet by just saying “game bad” I use that frustration to learn the game. People who say “skill issue” are on the opposite side of this coin. They have inflated egos, and just devolve the conversation further. You develop skill by practicing. some things are easier for others, but you can still reach their level if you want to practice. Whining and complaining because your ego got hurt is just you stunting your own growth as a player or any other skill in real life. The human brain does a lot of self sabotaging in the guise of “self preservation”.
@michalesferra7826
@michalesferra7826 2 месяца назад
I saw that exact comment on reddit and was also annoyed by it lol. Nice work
@im_cart8656
@im_cart8656 Месяц назад
i've always liked small channel 'proving you wrong in a video game' type videos. when bigger channels do this kind of thing it becomes this big production with charts and calculations and with the background understanding that of course you can do it.. you don't have a job and you have 10k hours in the game.... anyways gj. i hate reddit (unless i need to learn something about how to fix my clothes dryer or something.. then it is a lifesaver)
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 27 дней назад
he litterally proved his point .... he used the same weapon everyone uses, farmed endgame material to boost attack and and health regen like everyone does, and did it with a MR of 850+, thing that most people that actually have a life will never achieve ... the OP on reddit was arguing that all the variety the game has and ability for each player to come up with their orn solution disappears
@trentlangford9050
@trentlangford9050 2 месяца назад
As a mhw newbie this is all arcane to me but the Reddit spite is based
@njmontano1625
@njmontano1625 12 дней назад
Alatreon complaints everywhere. Me: laughs in sticky 3s...
@order-shadow994
@order-shadow994 22 дня назад
Escaton Judgment remains as divisive as ever, but honestly. If you struggle that hard with meeting elemental checks, just use feline insurance and the highest damage raw build you can find. Yes, it's difficult, but it's doable within 3 carts. Even on some of the lowest damage weapons in the game.
@joaopedrobaker8841
@joaopedrobaker8841 26 дней назад
Came for the subject, stayed for the LS complaints.
@jonathonmiller2662
@jonathonmiller2662 21 день назад
The opening reddit post was some weapons grade copium, good lord. I've solo'd Alatreon somewhere within the ballpark of 300+ times at this point purely for the love of the hunt. Outside of the first dozen solo runs I did to make sure I understood the fight I didn't/ still don't ever bother with trying for constant topples or wall bangs, I just hit the damn monster with the pointy hot/cold stick until it dies. The fight's incredibly fair but also very punishing if you make a mistake.
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 4 дня назад
it's not copium ... it's just an un-satisfied costumer. And when said costumer is the only one selling you food and water ... i'll leave you to do 2+2 ... ah wait, you are a monster hunter player, you need to wait for a guide telling you dxactly what to do and how to do it. too bad 😞
@jonathonmiller2662
@jonathonmiller2662 4 дня назад
@@zarodgaming1844 "hurr you need a guide!" Seethe harder. It's copium in that most of the complaints are entirely down to a case of skill issue. You don't need chain topples with wall bangs, you don't explicitly need to run the exact same build as everyone else. The quest asks exactly two things of you if you want to do things cartless without going full raw speedrunner: Aggressively use the appropriate element and break the horns during dragon phase. Everything else is entirely on you. There are simply better and worse options to go about it.
@bobbinsmickleby4903
@bobbinsmickleby4903 2 месяца назад
I get the feeling that a lot of the people complaining saw Alatreon has at least one star weakness to dragon at all times and used that. I can say firsthand that trying to clear Escaton with dragon element is MISERABLE. Your best dragon hitzone for half of each encounter is practically nonexistent (2 in both Fire and ice active - so no ele damage) and then when you’re at dragon active it jumps up to painfully mid (14) Tldr don’t use dragon against alatreon, just use the element that counters the starting phase and break horns, I promise it’s not as hard as it sounds
@Theophilus-e2i
@Theophilus-e2i 3 месяца назад
Also beat him solo Twice with Hammer, was a hell of torture to achieve it.
@phailupe2941
@phailupe2941 3 месяца назад
Dawg you gotta be one of the only people ive seen miss that many helmbreakers on alatreon. 10/10 vid and fight, would shave my eyebrows in rage again
@TheBitingBat
@TheBitingBat 13 дней назад
Redditors when they have to use endgame sets and the in game systems to beat an endgame boss: 😭😭💀💀
@Kikabati
@Kikabati 3 месяца назад
omg reddit look fully safi no 4p fatalis needed xddd
@Boamere
@Boamere 15 дней назад
It’s funny I mained LS and gunlance and when I hit a wall on a hard monster I would whip out the great sword and draw attack them to death. Was a pretty good way of learning the fight
@nebulous9280
@nebulous9280 2 месяца назад
I did my FIRST Alatreon solo because I didn't have friends who would/could do it with me and I hate playing with randoms in games by principle. Took me about 40 attempts with LIGHT BOWGUN, but I got it. Partbreaker, Special Ammo Boost, and the pure Lunastra LBG gave me access to both Rapid Fire and Ice on the same weapon. It was a study on simply not getting hit and never missing, but I pulled it off and grabbed my absolute favorite weapon in the game, the Alatreon LBG with every single elemental rapid fire. Now all I do on MHW is help friends or do SoS's with another friend who reached endgame.
@LeizXD
@LeizXD 3 месяца назад
Bro lowkey just tsundere to the longsword 😳
@Porcouomo
@Porcouomo 3 месяца назад
My friends been daring me to solo atatreon after soloing fatty for the first time and because I know how much I still sucked (still suck) at the game, I refused to use elemental weapons. And I ended up killing it with a fatty weapon LMAO. Istg, killing these bosses solo feels soooo good for the first time. Massive W to spite reddit man, massive w.
@esper2776
@esper2776 2 месяца назад
I'm not even mad at Alatreon anymore. I just wanna git gud. He beats my ass blue when I try to solo HH him
@XxWarmancxX
@XxWarmancxX 3 месяца назад
the only thing i dislike about alatreon is it forces an elemental DPS style- not all weapons excel in that (greatsword especially). i never personally had issues with alatreon using bow but i will definately admit its just a skill issue that i cant do it with other weapons solo. still more fun than rajang tho- anything is more fun than rajang, (even if rajang is easier)
@aiba7604
@aiba7604 3 месяца назад
the moving slash you do after a tackle has absurd elemental damage and I mean you can get 7 elemental topples in one rotation you just need to use it
@spelv1104
@spelv1104 3 месяца назад
Furious rajang is peak entertainment for me imo (with greatsword at least)
@Rakebab1
@Rakebab1 3 месяца назад
There's hidden element modifiers for all the weapons and greatsword won't need to hit as many times as dual blades to ele.topple (usually just one before the escaton judgement). You'll conquer bro 💪
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ 3 месяца назад
You only need 1 elemental topple, which you get after like 6+ draw charges to the arms with a frostcraft build. Also, GS is literally one of the best melee against alatreon because of the amount of charge slash you can land
@hoax1024
@hoax1024 3 месяца назад
Elemental? What is that? Me and my greatsword goes brrrrrr with raw.
@MrDragondrian
@MrDragondrian 28 дней назад
I defeated Alatreon both in a 2v1 and alone with the longsword, that redittor needs to, and i quote, git gud
@arisenprestige5717
@arisenprestige5717 3 месяца назад
Reddit is a cesspool and that comment cements my stance on that garbage site.
@lethallegend9883
@lethallegend9883 3 месяца назад
That’s purely a skill issue on the redditor’s part. I lost my data a awhile ago and decided to limit myself to only using HBGs for my new save and I beat everything ( excluding kulve/safi ) solo, even did fatalis.
@MrMonklad
@MrMonklad 3 месяца назад
do it with hunting horn next
@heyren052
@heyren052 17 дней назад
lmao the discord sound got me checking my PVs
@xodiac-gg7049
@xodiac-gg7049 3 дня назад
I find him easier to solo. Cuz that way the focus is always on me and i dont need to worry bout others carting randomly
@Krossfyre
@Krossfyre 3 месяца назад
I get why people don't like the fight, because a lot of times you can't use your favourite weapon and have to use some elemental one instead, plus certain moves are way worse to use. But at the same time so many players are braindead and don't even bother to listen to the NPCs. I like to play pierce HBG against Alatreon since I can always end the fight shortly after the first judgement, but randos are so difficult to rely on to get the topple so most of the time I just use my DBs instead. Which I don't mind, but when I have HunterPie on I can see how often players absolutely got carried through the special assignment. They don't even crack 10 DPS when you need like 30+ to finish in time before the judgements kill you.
@carlosleebseysilva267
@carlosleebseysilva267 5 дней назад
The worst thing on internet is that it gives voice to people that are completely wrong to say something stupid, I'm not talking abou you but about the guy saying that alatreon is a desing mistake and nobody dares to solo
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 4 дня назад
The even worse thing is when people faced with unfairness and injustice they bow down and even agree with the "winning" side, only because thay day it wasn't them being targeted and they have no spine to contrast the majority opinion. People like you do not deserve to have a franchise like monster hunter ... "Every voice matters" ... except the ones we don't like ... but what else can you expect from monster hunter players 💀 you should congratulate yourself 👏
@carlosleebseysilva267
@carlosleebseysilva267 3 дня назад
​@@zarodgaming1844 no, you are completely wrong, not all voice matters. would you say that nazis were right then? what about people that thinks that earth is flat? not every point of view is right. you are even trying to insult me because you think i'm wrong not realizing the contradictions on your words. this game is designed for you to look for a way to hunt without dying, have a problem with kushala? go wind proof, teostra deals too much dmg? heatproof and fire res and so on for every monster. problem here is that alatreon requires you to pick an elemental build and people tried to fight with raw dmg weapons, without elem resist, without blight resistance, low elem dmg output weapons, etc. the problem was never alatreon, the problems are the players, adapting to new ways to hunt was never unfair
@majinkevinci
@majinkevinci 6 дней назад
My only complaint about Alatreon is flying so much the way he does is kind of a shit design. Not all weapons are designed to hit high consistently, and yes I know about the smoke bomb trick, but kind of boring to have to do it. Anything else it's fine.
@ReiShuma
@ReiShuma 3 месяца назад
11:27 Omg a foresight slash cancel into thrust + helm breaker wouldve been so clean
@kDallas_
@kDallas_ 2 месяца назад
redditors and complaining name a better duo
@Cornbread-Enjoyer
@Cornbread-Enjoyer 2 месяца назад
Legit the easiest way i killed alatreon many times was just with a kinsect, not even the glaive lmao
@henriquerodrigues7795
@henriquerodrigues7795 21 день назад
How are ppl still malding about alatreon lol
@keikoathallah7866
@keikoathallah7866 8 дней назад
00:59 how do you knockback the dragon?
@robertleonedneyiii8515
@robertleonedneyiii8515 3 месяца назад
My friend loves the GS, and hates on everyone using ranged weapons and calls them cowards, but while he rage quitted against Tempered Ruiner, I soloed him with LBG, Safi'Jiiva is a work in progress lol
@reina4516
@reina4516 3 месяца назад
yeah thats probably why he calls them cowards
@ReadilyAvailibleChomper
@ReadilyAvailibleChomper 3 месяца назад
Tbh ruiner is easy. I’m not even good at the game, I haven’t even beaten Alatreon yet, and I had to call an S.O.S for Fatalis, can’t even solo a raging Brachydios, but Ruiner is super easy for me.
@jaybaker2754
@jaybaker2754 3 месяца назад
It all comes with time brother​@@ReadilyAvailibleChomper
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_
@d3m3nt3d_t3acup_ 3 месяца назад
Slow reload spread lbg is more manly than gs, and I have done both against fatty
@birumerah2896
@birumerah2896 3 месяца назад
raged against temp ruiner it's crazy 🤣
@ickerolig
@ickerolig 8 дней назад
I cant believe people are mad about Alatreon and Fatalis when there's Valaak and Kusha Daola in the game. Those two are literall anti-fun.
@zarodgaming1844
@zarodgaming1844 4 дня назад
Those are difficult because of a mechanic, and do not eestrict the freedom the game gives you Alatreon and fatalis are difficult just because of numbers, and limit build diversity.
@ninjafrog6966
@ninjafrog6966 Месяц назад
honestly would’ve made more sense to use hunting horn or bow for this challenge since horn has a single use and bow has zero
@edwylin6815
@edwylin6815 Месяц назад
This guy is cruising through alatreon with a weapon he doesn't master while I was able to kill it twice solo with max death on my count. One time I did it with alatreon set and all full defense boost and element resistance and alatreon set, somehow it was very practical
@Scorchlette
@Scorchlette 2 месяца назад
Not only did you clown on their challenge, you did it on KBM too.
@hurrakka_kun
@hurrakka_kun 2 месяца назад
I had a longsword build exclusively for this guy but then I tried hammer (my actual main) and managed just fine and survived two escatons. Now I have both fire and ice hammer builds and I can finally ditch longsword.
@alesztra937
@alesztra937 2 месяца назад
Lmao that reddit post. People love to victimize themselves instead of seeking out and fixing the root problem. It's a true skill- and interest issue.
@Guyy_1
@Guyy_1 2 месяца назад
Alatreon being the easiest monster in Icebornes endgame and people always find a way to complain about him
@countcrocodile1115
@countcrocodile1115 3 месяца назад
Getting an Azure Dragonsphire on a spite run is wild 💀
@kurosan0079
@kurosan0079 2 месяца назад
Alatreon and Fatalis are basically the devs saying, "Time to get good, ya babies!"
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079
@siduxjxhdgzhdjxhxuuxxyhgg1079 3 месяца назад
Play more hunting horn!!
@Vivid-Dream1-20
@Vivid-Dream1-20 3 месяца назад
I feel like most people hate playing hunting horn- only time i ever see it used is for broken builds like certain ones from TDS
@hoenam4045
@hoenam4045 3 месяца назад
@@Vivid-Dream1-20 I touch World HH once or twice back then, though it was pretty cool but didn't commit to learning it. And then I play Rise HH and I wasn't able to look back since
@ScentSense
@ScentSense 3 месяца назад
Rise HH is by far and away the most fun it's ever been. Performance modes + silkbind attacks + the new combos just work together insanely well. Rise is the main reason I ended up loving Hammer (Courage mode) , GS (Surge Slash) and HH more recently after pretty much just being an IG and Swaxe user throughout all of World/IB. I actually think most weapons are at their best in Rise tbh, there's definitely some experimental stuff going on but I do hope Switch Skills come back in Wilds as a main gameplay feature. ​They made so many weapons more mechanically deep and overall more enjoyable. @@hoenam4045
@ScentSense
@ScentSense 3 месяца назад
​@@Vivid-Dream1-20it's bleh in World but absolutely insane in Rise. It feels and works like a totally different weapon.
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 месяца назад
My brain is too small for Horn, but I'll maybe try it some day
@zeke7205
@zeke7205 3 месяца назад
World arguably has the highest skill floor in the entire series due to the fact that it doesn't have stiff controls and jank hitboxes. If you want actual game issue go play the older installments.
@blazewagon5677
@blazewagon5677 3 месяца назад
I watch bro swing at it like one time with savage axe mode CB and alatreon ele topples near instantly (Lbg player btw)
@vd6070
@vd6070 14 дней назад
tl;dr Reddit skill issue. Learn fight, don't be stupid. Advice can be good, but do it your own way to spite Reddit. I originally played World's story with two buddies, one who had already beaten the game four times over and just made a new save (He was using CB, I'm a GS user and our other buddy who was also new like me used LS) made me think the game was fairly easy. Then my internet went out for nearly a month and I spent half that time fighting Barioth solo, realizing I was pretty crap at the game, and proceeded to learn how to actually use Greatsword beyond unga bunga TCS skip. The other half was me running through Iceborn while occasionally stopping to go fight Nergigante again (loved fighting him so much that I genuinely lost count and had to check my hunting manual to see how many times I killed it) And now I'm being given my patience check with Alatreon, having to watch and study him more than I did with other monsters which I just sorta learned as they hit me so I could figure out where to shoulder bash. Alatreon is very much forcing me to reassess how I learn attack patterns in this game and it's honestly pretty fun (fuck firing SOS on Alatreon btw, did it once and they all carted immediately.)
@gira4664
@gira4664 2 месяца назад
I killed alatreon with every weapon type back when this drama was going around and made a pretty collage to send to people that were complaining about it. The good old days.
@SK-fg9nn
@SK-fg9nn 3 месяца назад
i didn't understand what was "impossible", can someone enlighten me ?
@syaasy4416
@syaasy4416 3 месяца назад
fatalis is fast? bro tripping fr. thing is fatalis is slow but its attack is like a gacha, he will do random stuff all the time that can rly cuck ur flow. Alatreon is fast but his dmg is combo reliant, simply remaining on your back can save u from a cart
@xChaosPsycho
@xChaosPsycho 3 месяца назад
Just picked up the longsword and I can very much relate to the reactions whenever you missed a helmbreaker 😂
@chickennumgit1055
@chickennumgit1055 3 месяца назад
I'm a switchaxe main, but today I've seen a guy solo extreme behemoth and alatreon with the long sword and both were so damn cool. I'm relatively new to this game and love my switchaxe but now every other weapon seems cooler now lol
@PapaBlizz
@PapaBlizz 25 дней назад
lmao this is great. Classic case of someone blaming the game because they are bad. You make this fight look easy.
@andiroba4470
@andiroba4470 26 дней назад
I have 450+ games with long sword and you is better than me lmao
@dragonriderjohann7683
@dragonriderjohann7683 3 месяца назад
So BRO should I use greatsword for kulve and safijiiva cause I cannot beat them with LS which is my main?
@birumerah2896
@birumerah2896 3 месяца назад
GS in safi is perfect, on kulve I usually used a lbg or HBG ont the first phase and melee on the last phase
@LeizXD
@LeizXD 3 месяца назад
I use sns and charge blade on safi i think LS Is harder for safi
@dragonriderjohann7683
@dragonriderjohann7683 3 месяца назад
@@LeizXD thank you any tips for charge blade?
@LeizXD
@LeizXD 3 месяца назад
@@dragonriderjohann7683 not best to ask from me cause im an SAED ooga booga chargeblade player but i did use gold rath wep and it deal decent dmg to safi also if you got safi aquashot you can cheese safi easily
@dragonriderjohann7683
@dragonriderjohann7683 3 месяца назад
@@LeizXD bro i am an oonga booga charge blade player as well and i have fatalis set for longsword so i will see if i can fashion it into a charge blade set
@MrPickleEdits
@MrPickleEdits 3 месяца назад
Sick vid! Would love to see you learn the Gunlance next.
@willsadventures8418
@willsadventures8418 2 месяца назад
should have used the hunting horn
@warhog8118
@warhog8118 2 месяца назад
Hell nah you gotta get that Hunting Horn count up
@hikaruhibiki264
@hikaruhibiki264 3 месяца назад
So if i doing freestyle solo with raw pewpew is considered the redit user is wrong or right?
@HaloXboxedition
@HaloXboxedition 3 месяца назад
Now do it again, with HUNTING HORN!
@paezlisandro800
@paezlisandro800 3 месяца назад
I remember my 1st try vs Alatreon, he put the shit out of me (I was finished the history), now is like go to a park for a walk
@steelsl1me951
@steelsl1me951 Месяц назад
Now do it with hunting horn
@dekaks.4724
@dekaks.4724 3 месяца назад
La is for adrenaline junkies And I LOVE IT
@raphunter7303
@raphunter7303 3 месяца назад
yes, alatreon is hard, but he is basically one of the last monsters in the game, so it's normal for him to be hard, plus the element thing is pretty unique. i'm not a good player, i'd say that i'm at best average, yet i soloed each monster in the game (besides Safi-jiiva cuz safi is a pain in solo)
@aaronjohnston2751
@aaronjohnston2751 26 дней назад
Yeah, as someone who has beat Alatreon with every weapon except HBG solo (slap stick gunlance was shockingly effective), with a few pure raw kills just to see if it was possible, people who complain about Escaton have barely any idea of what they are talking about. That lack of understanding goes a long way to explain why Alatreon is manhandling them on a regular basis. All you need to do is stay calm, maintain a reasonable level of offense, and know your openings damn well so you can take full advantage of them. Playing passively and relying on health augment to squeeze out a win after 40 minutes won't work on this one.
@lux3846
@lux3846 3 месяца назад
Why didn't you go for hunting horn since you barely use it?
@ivangigliotti3693
@ivangigliotti3693 3 месяца назад
hes only done one quest with it so he probably barely even knows the moveset
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 месяца назад
Cuz I would've lost💀idk how that weapon even works
@stefanbasfalianu293
@stefanbasfalianu293 2 месяца назад
shouldve used hunting horn
@Gojiradogzillagodzilla
@Gojiradogzillagodzilla 3 месяца назад
The duality of man: plays GS and DB, both the slowest and fastest respectively lmfao Bro is a chad, bonus points for playing a lot of DB *this comment is brought to you by the Dual Blades gang*
@Mr.Fenryck
@Mr.Fenryck 2 месяца назад
As an LS main with about 800 hours on the weapon, you did very well for a weapon you don't know. I'm guessing unlike me, this isn't your first MH game or you have 800 hours on your 5th least played weapon. As per helmbreaker... It's a bitch, but so long as you know your distance and timing, you can get away with some ridiculous stuff. I just realised you've shown your playtime, I'm a moron.
@khhnator
@khhnator 2 месяца назад
so this is something i did myself once... but never again, becouse how painful it was. but i hope someone better than me show how to do Alatreon.... with a light bowgun
@blueey2938
@blueey2938 Месяц назад
only 25% of the player base use long sword, not half
@yes78
@yes78 26 дней назад
I still never understood the alatreon hate, people act like learning mechs and prepare is the worst torture known to man, mmo players love doing that
@salade5324
@salade5324 3 месяца назад
that quest is easier solo lol
@daorasama
@daorasama 3 месяца назад
I agree alatreon is a great fight...i even consider it the best fight in the game( yes, better than fatalis ) But pls dont say LS sucks..i dont even play the weapon..but it got some difficulty to it, n i respect ppl who use it effectively..
@Slaking_
@Slaking_ 3 месяца назад
Don't get the wrong idea, LS is a good weapon and I respect LS mains. I just really hate playing it personally lmao
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