Souls community has two sides. First one contains people who genuinely enjoy the game and welcome all type of other players with different backgrounds and not hesitate to bring up negatives; while the second one contains basement dwellers who thinks being a veteran for a video game is a social status.
Yeah, exactly; FightinCowboy's thinks he's a veteran and thus earns a social status himself. In all seriousness, well yeah, I thought there's worth in these people, uploading themselves being new to the game and being ecstatic when they've defeated Taurus Demon after failing a few times, that was wholesome. I kind of miss these simpler times.
@@sucmeiballs >Souls Fan >God God of what? Inceldom, mediocrity and Masochism? Ok, Loser. Mate, if you unironically think something as piss easy as a Souls game is akin to swiming then you should probs do something about your disability.
@@sucmeiballs PTSD? Like when Your pussy swordsmong after getting porked by Donovan and after he got Cucked by the actual Chad? Nah, PTSD yourself, pleb. >Waaaaah You got filtered Ah, so that's why you are malding. You couldn't get past Assylum then, you couldn't get past Tree Sentinel now and all you are doing is projecting. Ma'am, you are simply pathetic.
The community was primarily the reason why I held off on playing souls games until today when I bought elden ring. Had people in high school talk about video games, and only ever ended up bringing the souls series into the conversation, and how they would say "You aren't a true gamer until you've played or beaten DS" or whatever. I think the souls games have really gotten to people's ego, especially if they haven't touched grass in 7 years
Elden Ring isn't a "souls game", it's not a sequel, a prequel, a midquel, a spin-off, nor is it even in the same universe, nor is Dark Souls even an open-world game, so no, you have yet to play Dark Souls. Not that I share the opinion of the people at your high school, but I think it's hilarious how insecure you are about not having played some videogame, so just letting you know, that to those people you are *still* not a "true gamer".
@@Neon_Henchman It is easy to blame it on those "git gud" scrubs. I bet those idiots never even beaten a really challenging game for themselves without googling shit or looking anything up on youtube. But looking down on others? Man. I played games before the internet was fully functioning. The fuck are you talking about?
Yeah the souls community has some real elitist goblins. I've seen them flooding 5 year old horizon zero dawn clips that previously had like 200 views and rave in the comments about how elden ring is better. Thats just the most current example of how toxic they are, not even the fact that they're seeking out the videos, but ITS THE WRONG GAME 🤣
I played the game how it meant to be played and destroyed Melanie multiple times, called her the most overrated “hardest Souls boss ever”. And people are like, “you’re playing a broken build, you’re using summons”🤓 Like 🐩 they give me all these tools unlike the rest of the souls games, it’s not cheating to use the things the games provide you 💯
You have to remember that 95% of Elden Ring's playerbase have only ever played Elden Ring. It's not their fault that they're retarded, cut them some slack lmao
Triggered fanboy: You use summons 😡😡 you didn’t beat the game. Me: Sorry but you don’t get to determine the correct way to beat the game lmao like who the fck are you 😂😂😂
Totally agree with cowboy here in the terms of gameplay, play how you want, wear what you want, having someone dictate your playstyle just isnt right unless its constructive feedback as it provides you options, a choice to your characters progression. It doesnt give you the right to be arrogant towards somone not running a broken meta build.
I’m very new to the series, so I was stunned when I learned how toxic this community really is. First playing through Dark Souls I wasn’t having a fun time at all, and I asked the sub Reddit, respectfully, is this just a me problem or do most people have the same issue when they first pick up a souls game. I was not ready for the level of hate I was about to receive because I wasn’t enjoying the game to that point. I was shocked at how unhelpful and defensive those people are. I beat the game anyway and I’m on to playing other souls games but damn I hate the community with a passion and wish they would stop being little babies
from someone who's first souls game was darksouls 3, yes it is that hard for most people when picking up a game like it for the first time, i spent hours on the first boss alone
I also started with elden ring and got better, i come from the cod community and I didnt think the souls community could be this toxic but damn I was so wrong
I really hate that every discussion about the quality of anything in these games immediately changes to a discussion about the difficulty. That’s how OBSESSED with it the community is: you can’t criticize any aspects of the game or else you’re just bad, unless you call certain parts too easy. It just completely shuts out any criticism or interesting discussion because all anyone cares about is if it’s hard or not, not if it’s GOOD or not. For instance, I love Sekiro but hate Dark Souls. I consider Sekiro the harder game and also enjoy it more by a mile but I really do not like playing DS because I think the controls are absolutely terrible. But nope, I’m not allowed to criticize anything about these games, I’m just bad (completely ignoring that I’ve beaten both games and have completed Sekiro without dying)! It’s such bullshit.
It's crazy, they have never changed. I made a reddit post years and years ago when I first played ds1 essentially doing the same thing. Asked for some tips as a noob and criticised some things (which I still think are bad even after playing all the games multiple times) and was met with nothing but hate and defensiveness. It's not even worth interacting with the community outside of youtube because they are all so angry at the world.
The most prominent divide I've seen in the Souls community is between cooperators and invaders. It's astounding the amount of distain they have for each other
lol they are the worst fanbase in gaming and it’s not even close. And yeah there’s better games out there like ghost of tsushima and baldur's gate 3. These souls dorks treat their games like the second coming of Christ.
For me, playing as a mage is harder. You get locked into attacks that refuse to hit moving targets, have a limited amount of mana which can only be refilled by your flasks that can either heal you or refill the blue bar. The attacks don't do any massive damage over time like bleed, rot or ice so you have to spec into int for real damage and that usually involves you having lower defensive stats. Even endgame, being a mage is a challenge just as much as anything else.
People completely miss this point and thinks mages are the only OP playstyle in the game cause they see some comet azur on reddit/youtube vs bosses on first try. The truth is, that "kill" probably, multiple tries.
If anything, mage builds are the ones that demand good positioning and timing your attacks and overall strategizing the most, because for eg: while malenia WILL dodge most straight projectile spells, she won't be able to dodge the comet spells because they are semi invisible.
This is how I see it for most souls games: Mage builds make some parts easier and some parts a lot harder Melee builds make some parts easier and some parts a lot harder Hybrid builds make most things normal
Personally I'm more of a pure strength enjoyer, but unless your using the pre-nerf comet azur setup being a mage is absolutely harder. It's as you said, way less health and defensive stats, you can't really use good armour, and you have to sacrifice heals. Being a pure strength build is so much easier. Dual wielding two colossal greatswords that do 2.5k per jump attack with a hp and endurance bar filling your whole screen + flasks that you can keep exclusively for healing and ignore mana. And also dodging is way easier, you don't get locked in place for nearly as long with melee builds.
That's the part that sucks, some parts of the community is actually awesome and is so much fun to find out about each other's experiences but you will inevitably came across that one guy that loves ruining everything
I am so happy that one of my favorite Souls youtubers have said this. It's also one of the reasons why I hated Dark Souls 3 for the longest time. I'm so glad Sekiro was the way it was and the balancing Elden Ring had when it first released. It was like a big F U to the elitists and souls community. So satisfying.
@@sucmeiballs Some of the content in Elden Ring is bad. 😂 Most of the boss fights are poorly designed, most of the bosses are just reskins, the combat isn't that great (especially compared to Bloodborne and Sekiro), there's players who think the map is too big, the whole thing is not as good as they say. It's a good game, but definitely not GOTY.
@user-vv8iu8vh8c Get triggered harder you legbeard fruitcake. Your salt is delectable. ;) Griffith did Nothing Wrong. Well, Except for Hiring a loser like Guts.
"So my approach or play style was to use everything I have at my disposal, all the assistance, every scrap of aid that the game offers, and also all the knowledge that I have as the architect of the game… the freedom and open-world nature of Elden Ring perhaps lowered the barrier to entry, and I might be the one who's benefiting the most from that, as a player, more than anyone else." -Miyazaki
It's always the guys who use meta builds who shit on guys who use summons, moonveil, etc etc. Like, if you use anything besides powerstance uchigatanas, you're big trash.
I never play mages in these games but it's because if how I like to play. I'll personally admit that having to constantly keep distance from enemies is a skill all on it's own that I don't have.
Wow I remember this one haha. It's just a game. Games are meant to be fun at the end of the day. I played every build I could think of with this game. Any build can be OP barring straight hands. I love these games so much, despite some of the annoying shit(that elevator in mergos loft).
Imagine caring about community in single player games. Community was always a bad idea in almost every single single player game. Wake up dudes, Elden ring and Dark souls are not MMOs.
First off how can you get mad at someone who utilizes what was put into the game in the first place? Secondly I never understood the whole gate keeping & elitist fanboy-ish types in games (or any form of entertainment) but unfortunately the ones in the souls community stand out! Sucks too because the souls community has so many cool people who offer help & guidance yet remain respectful! Unfortunately they are usually overshadowed by the ones taking the games way to serious!
At the end it's a video game it's not meant to be taking too seriously I'm not a fan of souls games I'm more into fps games i love the fps community alot because we have fun without shaming people for playing in their own styles
Dont miss contennt because of gatekeepers. Magic is fun. Incantation is fun. Watching my summon destroy a camp is fun. Play the game how you want it. Once u beat it, then go ahead do ur "limited run".
I have max strength, dexterity, and vigor, and i use hand of malenia, by all accounts i should be broken as hell but i still find difficulty in some fights, its a game yall, play however you feel comfortable with
This is what happens when you change anything with your formula, especially when your first journey is really personal to you. Ds1 fans hated 2 for that reason. I am seeing thing happen against Bloodborne, Sekiro, and especially Ds3 players against this game. My point is, which ever game you play first will be more personal to you, but if you play another one and if the devs change anything, it pisses people. Everytime some art comes along that is personal, it has to be an expansion or appeal to that first game a person played. It's the price of success and it's why most art is generic because those artists will not embrace change due to sales. From Software may not seem like it, but they are one of those dev teams who do. As they made Deracine in 2018 and then made Sekiro, which was completely different to Souls before as it is more of an action game.
Dark Souls 2 has some flaws The enemy placement can be very annoying, It made some run backs painful (fuck the iron passage, I Lost a part of myself there😂)
Being gatekeeper just literally means that person has some major mental health issues. Almost all gatekeepers are braindead fans. If you provide valid arguments, instead of disagreeing or providing counter arguments, they will just say git gud. They say that games from Miyazaki are the best, but yet they criticise Demon souls and Dark souls 2 🤣🤣🤣 Most of them just don't have any clear arguements provided, but they are bashing people for being mages or using some kind of builds. Like come on dude! It's just a game. Everyone is able to use everything, even Miyazaki didn't prohibit magic, summons or any builds. And they clearly don't believe they are playing an RPG. Have they ever played any RPG? Do they even know what RPG means? Guess no.
I just treat the game like a giant fukin story book i dont go past +2 new game i switch between mage summoner and archer summoner and i die multiple times because i suck all in all this games great cant wait to kill more gods
I've played a few hours in every souls game, I keep trying to like them and I dont mind hard games and I wanna like it I just genuinely don't know what to do or where to go, I know that's dumb but as someone that doesn't have much time to play games in general I don't wanna spend hours wandering around lost getting my ass kicked
This is good. For example I like playing the games as melee only but that doesn’t mean other people are wrong for using summons/ranged magic. I just find it more fun to not use those things and others find it fun to use them which is clearly fine.
To be real. Dark Souls groomed this gate keeping. The start was basically like so many came and they all lost and you will never gonna make it and if you do you are something better than all the other losers who quit. FS clearly used this pride fostering to make the game more popular. Also stuff like Prepare to Die edition, what a name. Also that the dev refused easy mode with basically saying "on easy mode you didn't play the game" enforced this.
Dark Souls' just good bro. Nobody had to play Dark Souls, there's also Umihara Kawase series which is still ongoing recently and saying stuff like "Hard to master", amongst other games, don't they also harbor this "Hardcore Gamer" mentality? Dark Souls just became mainstream by some degree luck (from what I recall Demon's Souls started off kinda slow afterall), but it was also a good game, why is FS the only one getting whipped for it when previous games were sleeper hits? There's nothing wrong in not liking it, but now everyone wants everything to be made for anyone instead of it remaining niche.
@Neon_Henchman Yeah this dude is the weirdest souls-like channel I have seen 😳 he makes such weird decisions and his walkthroughs are horrendous sometimes like the choices he goes with lol
@@datdamadude The dude also has kept calling me a pedo over one video I've made, where I was saying he could've just hid behind a pillar during a Modded O&S fight and where he whined about it, he kept saying how I "wanted his clout and to earn money", again over ONE video. Since then, I keep being stalked by weird accounts, pretty sure it's his view-bots since they parrot the same things like in this comment section.
@@apbecker Well I don't rape my girlfriend in the mouth like you do, Cowboy. I already dealt with your two sock accounts on Twitter the other day, you couldn't even keep the Tweets up for more than a day.
@@theprecipiceofreason Sure, but you're still letting other people dictate your choice of choosing to avoid playing an amazing game its not the games fault the community is garbage.
@@WokeandProud To pretend that people don't or can't affect you or your decisions is ignorant. To change your decisions, related to people simply because you are afraid of your own conclusions being affected by people is idiotic hypocrisy and contrarianism for the sake of ego alone.
@@theprecipiceofreason Way to miss the point I'm saying you're missing out on an amazing game because of bad actors in the community around it and I think that's sad.
Souls game aren't always hard, you are just making it hard. This game is easy if you fully utilize what the game gives you. Yes, I know, this is coming from someone who beat all Souls game on NG+7-10, with different accounts using different builds.
I get exactly what you mean. It may not be easy, but it's not "that hard" either, I feel its reputation is a bit off. For me, I don't pretend I did exceptionally well on my first playthrough/s, but I always managed to push through, using whatever new things I like, for example people loathe Capra Demon, but I did it on my first try simply using the Elite Armor Set. I even did a LP where I pretty much rushed through it without grinding and overlevelling, in 7h30 and I still think I have more to learn and to try out.
@@Neon_Henchman Man, Souls games are set to "I'm too young to die" difficulty. Way too easy, TBH. Souls players are just incompetent losers who think Longswords are original and try hard to be Guts instead of actually learning good strats. You want a hard game? Doom Eternal: Ancient Gods but Modded, Synthetik 1 and 2, Doom Plutonia, Blood, etc.
@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 On that same train of thought, Donkey Kong Country 2 is a game I loved and of course beat as a kid, I remember vividly my mother cleaning when I got to the Credits, but I swear adults today can't even beat the game, they literally get outplayed by a toddler that was in kindergarten. These events are partly why I just don't look favorably to modern gaming, but thankfully, I'm still able to put my skills to the test, albeit with older games, for example I did all Purple S+ in Assault Android Cactus, which... was tiring, but I'm glad to have seen through all of it, and as you spoke of an FPS, I also have one that I love; I keep replaying Serious Sam 3, which was considered a black sheep of the series, but I love how it rewards my recklessnes to this day, such as timing my hammer swings to one-shot invisible Kleers (on Mental Difficulty). Speaking of invisible enemies, Resident Evil's Invisi Mode was a fun time for me, I had to make my own maps and ended up with 140 handgun bullets, but I liked how it forced me to do my own research before entering the mode.
@@Neon_Henchman Ikr. I still have occasional flashbacks to Dean T*kahashi's Cuphead Tutorials. I almost want to see him or that Gutskilledthatsnake sped do Hagane. Seriously, the man straight up thinks souls games are brutal, that they are harder than, say childbirth. Sorry but that is a self own. On that note, There are still plenty of excellent Games in this Gen. Deadlinks, Synthetik, STALKER 2, Hunt:Showdown, just to name a few. To each their own though.
@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 nah I only love these Big swords so I can shove them up your a33 lol whoever starts a game and decides he should play it like it was real life business it's just hilarious like why you faking your hobby .
Not just the community, the PUBLISHER is just as bad..... I don't play their games because of the unrealistic frustration. How does me playing on an easier difficulty affect ANYONE ELSE AT ALL??? Yet, they act like the universe will implode if there were easier modes
this is one question I have not been able to answer either. I have played all of their games except Dark Souls 2. But man, how would adding an option decrease anyone's enjoyment is beyond me. The community is toxic as fuck.
Dark souls fans the people who threw a tantrum because someone wanted an easy mode. Because remember gamers everyone has to experience a game exactly how you experience it.
I mean using a walkthrough for a puzzle game would ruin the point of what the developers wanted, no? And no, I'm not saying shit like "Magic is OP skrub", but rather I see people who wouldn't read the description of Fire Keeper Souls, like it doesn't strike me as being for them.
@@Neon_Henchman Nobody talks about a walkthrough, scrub. And an easymode wouldn't hurt anyone, except you feel tempted to use easy mode just because it exists. Makes you dumber with each comment I see from you.
The only time talking shit about the way someone plays is allowed is in games like for honor where the way someone plays is literally impossible to beat
Honestly my biggest issue with ER is that it's just Dark Souls 3 but open world, not a bad thing but playing Sekiro years before ER i was disappointed with the lack of inovation and reused gameplay of previous titles and i'm sick of the whole roll through attacks for Iframes for bosses
I still say to this day dark souls should have a easy mode. i wouldnt use it personaly but it would make the game more acsessable to people of all backgrounds not just sweat lords that live in there mums basement. and im soo sick and tiered of there constent complaining about the way i want to play the game, look its my game i brought it so i will play it however i want to if you dont like the way i play then fine you play your game how you want but shut up about how i play mine. anyone who says the game shouldnt have a easy mode is honestly just a selfish cry baby litraly any other game wouldnt have this issue.
Dude, do you think people who played their first Dark Souls game were " just sweat lords that live in there mums basement" Read your comment. You insult people and right afterward you say why you shouldn't be insulted. They are "cry babies" and "sweat lords who in their mums basement" but don't they dare call you out on how you play??
@@neos.4587 Dude also complains about the game not being "accessible" enough, yet I have a big speech impairment and still understood all the clues and beat the game just fine, like... Dark Souls isn't even that hard, it's not easy, but it's nowhere near grueling. Myself I wouldn't have a problem with these people complaining about difficulties if they would just owe up to the fact they just need to get better at the game, like it was the same shit for me with Donkey Kong Country 2; I beat it when I was in kindergarten, yet grown adult RU-vidrs gave up due to its difficulty and their fans eat the lie that it's bullshit hard, like what the hell is this world doing. A disabled quadriplegic even beat Sekiro. Git gud, and I'm not trying to be toxic like Blighttown, it's just sad.
@@Neon_Henchman Yeah sure. Tell more lies. Despite your speech impairment, which means you can not talk properly, so regards Dark Souls it doesn't even count as an impairment at all. So keep coping. And then Easy accessibility means that the game allows for less experienced gamers to enter in a way you, a hardcore scrub I guess, could just disable by NOT chosing that option(s). An easy mode would not ruin the game for you as YOU can irnogr the easy setting and play as hardcore as you want. Blindfolded. With your handstied behind your back. A donkey riding you all along. Nobody cares. And ho boy. People just need to get better at games? If I wanted I could make a list right here how many games I played in my life so far, nothing you scrub could compete with. And you would tell me to "git gud" because I toothink that Dark Souls could have an easymode for less experienced playrs or such players who arejust not good at "soulslikes"? Go to hell you puppet.
@@Neon_Henchman "A disabled quadriplegic even beat Sekiro" Proves what? Did he also beat Deathtrap Dungeon? Soul Reaver? Castlevania Vampires Kiss on the SNES? Metal Gear Solid? Devil May Cry on hardest difficulty? How much time did said person (no insulöt to this person) invest to become good at Sekiro? Any facts among your mindless droning?
@@niemand7811 Why in god's name would I lie about the above? Whatever dude, I have a language impairment, you people will always microanalyze the way I speak to twist shit again, it's almost ableist. I might not understand every sentences fully or certain concepts, yet I comprehended pretty much all the "cryptic shit", like when Ingward told me "Don't go in the Abyss yet, stupid", or how I've come to understand Blessed weapons, like you got to have a skill issue if you can't bother reading what the Large Ember is for, amongst many other things. I don't get why Souls gameplay is so hard; use a shield you like, upgrade your equipment little by little, that's what I did my first few times, like it's just becoming sad when everybody view any failures on their part not as maybe a sign to grow and to overcome, which... I thought was what everybody agreed was a major theme to the games. There's nothing wrong with dying, it's whining like you people do that is, Easy Mode the way I see it would add nothing if you can't even navigate Sen's Fortress or Blighttown. But thanks for validating my comment/s, it helps me weeding out the trash.
Okay let me break it down; this Comment Section too is riddled with Bots, they keep saying how "toxic" the Souls Players are and how they want them to be gone, but they all act like utter idiots and assholes, plus their Profiles either have a whole bunch of dumb shit (like 100s of 1-Video Playlists that serve no purpose) or their Channel Creations date are either VERY recent, or about 10 years old, which being older makes them more likely to have been stolen, like really, I've come to think it's too weird that a lot of the people parroting each other in these Comment Sections made their accounts on 2013, I don't buy it as coincidences anymore. Furthermore, I had seen some of these same Bots on someone else's video about "Elitists" [ 36Edtg9lq2E ], albeit the difference is Dimitri was saying how it's the Casuals that are actually toxic and that the Souls Fans are only a fraction of that toxicity, but so these same Bots, such as @niemand7811, would completely miss the point of the video and taking it out of context, even completely missing Dimitri's Pinned Comment "Git Gud" as a joke and as it was a relevant one to make. They purposely get shit wrong to make him look bad. I didn't knew what to make of these "Elitists" as I seldom encountered them, but after seeing these patterns at nauseum, it's obvious to me what's going on; all these Bots are here and there just to shift the narrative, to make Souls Fans appear as the worst, they would even harass other Videomakers if they say something that doesn't fit their story as they're trying to make up an imaginary boogeyman, which I'm pretty sure is for the financial benefits of sell-outs on Social Medias and for Bandai's benefits too, even Bandai does not care. I think it's not just FightinCowboy, but maybe several creators are trying to make the Souls Games more appealing to casuals by shunning the actual fans by using Bots that say the same repetitive shit, I mean if a lot of people say they're right, then gullible people are bound to believe them? Even this Channel having uploaded this Video is weird, they keep deleting Videos, indicated by the loss of views on SocialBlade, and I'm seeing very strange Gameplays that serve no purpose like I've seen with the others, his "Tutorial Boss" of Armored Core 6 isn't even complete! Cowboy made this Bot Account post his content to fellate himself, I really think they're his. So no, there are no "Elitists", or at least they are a very small minority. Open your eyes, these accounts are likely fake and I was able to fish out several of them already. I also see some "Elden Ring" Completionists on Steam having Bot-like behaviors, and also getting shit wrong even there, so no place is safe from them.
The gatekeeping and elitism by fanboys is all on the internet. They would never dare speak this way irl since it would expose their face to being punched.
When people are saying that opinions are all legal, they miss one thing: "They can be good or otherwise evil." And what do I mean is that some opinions are destructive by nature for specific field. For example, we had and we have nihilism and feminism now, which are the biggest problem IRL. Nihilism is bad, because it prevents people from having fun IRL. Things such as love, friendship, literature, films, hobbies, beauty of nature are meant to be useless by nihilists. Femisnism is also bad, because don't get me wrong, It's toxic and unbalanced sexist s***. It prevents men from having fun, while some of them are even weaker in particular countries, usually in eastern Europe. These ideologies prevent us from having fun IRL and cause disharmony. The same with gatekeeping. Prople say like gatemeeping is good. Maybe, but it only protects specific category and hurts others. Like feminism IRL. But as well as gatekeeping, there are toxic casuals, who complain about easy mode, when the game has it, but it's hidden in summons or builds. These both opinions prevent specific groups from having fun. Gatekeeping + Toxic casuals = Toxic community. And well, I mean players must play how they want to do it. Developers must create equal conditions for both sides, which is basically in game. Players can increase or decrease difficulty by changing playstyle. But nobody from devs prevents hardcore tryhard players from having fun, running without armor with low quality builds, right? But nobody from devs prevents players from beating game using op and fun builds with summons, right? So, just have your own fun, run what you want and don't bother others, what's the problem?
Something is being lost in all this; first there's always going to be toxic fans in every communities, that's just a fact of life and not exclusive to FromSoftware, even Donkey Kong has them I'm sure. But here's the other thing; when people demand changes to your favorite games, when it was these traits that attracted you to it, then there's going to be some commotion. I love games like The Talos Principle and Umihara Kawase, but they are not really easy games to 100%, and that's perfectly fine, I actually LOVE them for being hard, that's a part why I became who I am today. Now, as an example, because YOU want to play The Talos Principle but can't get all the Stars, the game then should become easier just for you? How about Umihara Kawase, should they just not make the most out of the Rubbery Physics and have the levels be as basic as possible? This isn't being fair to me as I was one of the first to appreciate those games, you just decided to butted in and try to change things. But point is, it's entirely OK for games to remain niche, not everything has to be for everyone, I like(d) Dark Souls and you may not, but you may like Pokémon and I don't, this isn't an hard concept, I don't demand changes to every games I deem to be not technical or hard enough, I'm not in that position and I have so many better options anyway, I know Pokémon will remain somewhat easy in the path it's been taking and I just don't have to play them. When you try to make EVERY games be for EVERYONE, it doesn't breed an healthy market because there's no new ideas put forth, everything's becoming so homogenized and it's sickening to have everything have the same taste, it's boring. In fact, if I were to make my own games, I'd want them to be hard as hell because that's just the type of gamer I am, but I deeply value getting newfound skills the more time you put into them. But so, because I want to make them this hard, I'd have to make an Easy Mode for those that cannot even appreciate that fact? Why? The problem isn't even when games have an Easy Mode, and I don't think anybody truly cares for "cheesy builds" in Souls games. Even Serious Sam, my favorite games, have Tourist as a Difficulty, but nobody demanded for it as it was there from the start for the heck of it. The problem is when you demand changes to games that, in the end, I don't think you truly cared for. Just watch "Casuals Are The True Elitists" from Dimitri, he's not talking about the Casuals you've alluded to, and he has perfectly put into words why said casuals have become so frustrating to deal with, they never liked the games yet want to claim they should be for them.
One thing that pisses me off more of gatekeepers is "people will criticize how you play. People are allowed to have opinion" and im like last time i checked opinions aren't used to insult someone or say that theyre inferior because they wanna build a character that they want.
That's... called an opinion regardless, doesn't matter if you don't like it. There's nothing wrong playing however you want, but when I see that so-called expert play solely with the Great Club, getting smashed himself and scream "But I'm at my most powerful, they're too fast and this is cheap!", when the very simple solution is to use a faster albeit weaker club than something that weighs like their aunt, heck they stopped using shields they liked for some reason, then that is where I mock them. This comes from neglectful misunderstanding of the games' mechanics, which is not something I think you guys take into account, heck someone couldn't read item descriptions and never upgraded their Estus Flask in Dark 1, which just crippled their experience. There's always going to be people like that, you have to accept it, I recently watched Vtubers play Donkey Kong Country 2 and they can't play that game for shit when I've beaten it as a literal baby, even I feel like criticizing someone's gameplay when they're forcing people to watch it.
@@Patrick_G. I mean yeah critiquing how I play a soulsborne. I think where it crosses the line is calling me either stupid/brain dead or literally throwing out death threats
@@BeansLive567 Oh, if you do it on purpose, then yeah, seems like you know what you'd be getting into. Not sure how well I could phrase it, the actual problem is instead when they're oblivious they're missing on stuff. Another weird example is when someone complained it was impossible to know you needed a Ring to survive the Abyss in Dark 1, when... they just had to listen to Ingward, whom they have to see anyway to lower the water, to get clued in to find Artorias so to say. They claim it was a cheap death, even though the answer to the problem is dead simple. So, get what I meant? These games demand a bit more from the players, but they don't always respect that sort of commitment, and I'm sure that's where some vitriol comes from.
Gatekeepers are there because fromsoftware games used to be borderline hard and only the most dedicated could finish them now even the biggest ubisoft fanboi can finish the game wich takes away the feeling of accomplishment for some of us die hard fromsoftware games but in the end its a game and its about fun so 🤷🏼 dont git gut and youtube guide yourself too the elden beast
I couldn't enjoy Dark Souls because of the bad controls. It had nothing to do with actual difficulty. I enjoy playing Sekiro ffs. FromSoftSexuals are pervasive though. The elitist exclusivity of diehard DS fans infects all FromSoft games-- even ones like AC6 that aren't even souls-like games. It's those kinds of fans and their apologia for the areas in which DS is actually bad that drove me away even more from trying to tolerate DS bad-feeling gameplay in order to try and appreciate that series.
I mean there is a happy medium. playing as mage with bhs + summon is probably overall the easiest way to go through the game. Should we demean people and shit on them for going with that build? no It just gets disingenuous when people pretend that magic isn't easier than other build.
@geist souls archery doesn't have 1% of the damage sorcery has. you can get meteorite staff + rock sling 10min into the game and it SHREDS everyone. sorcery is the easiest because it's so strong from hour 1 and just keeps getting stronger, add to that a summon and bhs and u basically never have to think of defence. obviously you can make a one shot strength build or a busted bleed build, but what makes sorcery the easiest is BHS and ranged + how early it can be strong. If you disagree you're simply wrong or probably haven't tried many builds.
Dude. It is not about people using summoners or what ever they like and pretending it does not make the game easier. Stop to cope you fluke. It is about people that think they are the kings of the stink because they do not use magic and they think they are the true lords of hardcore. Such weebs.
@@niemand7811 I'd love to see any FromSoft fans try and beat an actually difficult game, not just one that punishes you for not yet knowing about a hidden trap that one taps you. So difficult.
@@mr.perfect748 Bringing me back from the dead, are you? What was the point of that comment? How do you know that I haven’t already done that kind of run or much harder? Because I have. However I would never expect or encourage anyone to do that, that was not the point of my statement. The point is there are very easy builds and strategies that exist that will practically play the game for you. Feel free to do that if that’s what you want, but don’t try to convince me that it isn’t super easy. There’s a thin line between skill and cheese in this game, but I feel like we all know where that line is.
@@Sl4apshock I can't believe how upset people get that they're not good at a video game. It's fine to stink, and all I'm asking is for you to be honest with yourself.
Actually, you've just helped make sense of why Monster Hunter became worse; Paid DLCs for stuff that would've been free before, removal of mechanics like Cool Drinks, easier Captures, amongst other things. It all happened conveniently around the time these fake fans butted in, yeah, these "toxic" people were doing just like the Souls Fans, trying to protect what made these games so good in the first place. Said "toxicity" actually comes from a place of care.
Who said I cared? I’m just making a statement. Why are u so defensive? Your comment is random and not in anyway a contextual response to anything I said in my comment. Are people not allowed to post without some crybaby getting his vagina hurt? It’s a statement of fact really. When you summon, you bypass the encounter because aggro breaks. I didn’t say it was right or wrong, I just made a statement. Calm your tits
I agree with you on everything except giving souls games an easy mode. Act Man has a really good video explaining why adding an easy mode woukd actually dismantle alot of what souls games is.
@@WokeandProud "Successful", lol, he drives away all of his real fans with his toxic attitude and uses View-Bots to cheat and harass, doesn't look that successful to me if I can't even differentiate who's real or not in his audience since the Fakes are so closely packed together.
@@WokeandProud Lmao, I'd beg to differ, if The Completionist is anything to go by, it's so easy to fake anything online as everyone will take it for granted. Also, you speak exactly like his NPC fans, you keep talking about bans even though he'd look for scripted Twitter fights he's meant to lose.
@envylyn463 You are nuts. You are one of those people that think they can dictate their ways of playing around and consider their style and character build to be the only proper one. Go for it. Play with an armorless half naked zombie wielding two handed weapons as much as you like. When you meet a tanky armor clad player you become little bitches.
People like FCB deep down feel bad about how they go about playing these games. Why would he get so angry and defensive about something so stupid ? Guess what, I think the game is more fun playing solo than summoning up 2 OP friends and hiding behind them. I MUST live in a basement! Point is, that other side of the “let ppl play how they want” argument is SO DEFENSIVE and ready to fly off the handle that they aren’t even realizing half the people they’re lashing out at aren’t elitists. They just share their opinion in literally the most non hostile way possible. Like if I recommend a brand new player to play their first game blind and solo, im suddenly a gate keeper ? Lmao what????
Yeah, that really is it, you're right. The problem for me is that people seems to overrely on outside help or mostly just don't bother to learn, and it's not solely coop, like... if you really can't play a game without a guide, then it really wasn't made for you, no? I caught some guy who never even read the description of Fire Keeper Souls, so of course he ate shit, and then another guy pretended that for DS1 again, it's impossible to guess you need the Artorias Ring for 4 Kings. It'd be kind of like looking at a walkthrough for a puzzle game, like it's... not the experience the developers were hoping for you to have I believe, it's hard to pinpoint the problem though. But then, Cowboy himself, uh I actually had a problem with his gameplay once, where he was rushing into bosses attacks with his Great Club, constantly dying, and to call the Mod "fucking stupid" and "cancer" to then give up in the end. I genuinely couldn't fathom it, he claimed "he was at his most powerful" with the Great Club, but what good did that do if he kept dying, he only looked at the Stats. Instead I beat the bosses with a smaller club and a shield and actually noticing EASY exploits for Red O&S, like... wth, I just did it without popping a vein. Because he kept shitting on the Mod for no valid reasons imo, I told him in video format "Hey, how about you use the big shield you used before like you did for Quelaag?", in the vein of simply trying something else, but... holy shit that dude has issues and still does. So, this event makes his points in this video come off as shallow, and for similar reasons of what you've described, I'm thinking if he's treating people with genuine criticism the same way as he did to me. Basically, uh I think Souls was better off niche, at least we didn't had some French Reviewer complaining he lost his Forest Hunter Covenant Status after he killed Forest Hunters.
When people like this guy in the video complain about others complaining that he's playing on easy mode, it means that he sucks in this kind of game and he knows it, that's why he gets triggered and has to make a video about it lol he just wants to be comfortable about being a bad player.
I've come to realise that; yes, gatekeeping should be important too, not to stop anyone from enjoying our favorite games, but to prevent any repulsive blights to corrupt our communities, no gatekeeping is why Japanese Games are so much in deep shit due to woke Westerners.
Mages are technically the easy mode for Souls games. That’s a reality if he likes it or not. For example, Frenzy Flame build is consider the hard mode approach to the game. Shabriris Woe talisman even increase enemy aggression But no easy mode will never be added to the game. The very idea means you never played the game before and don’t understand why the game exist. It’s literally one of the only games that exist for actual gamers. There’s nothing else for us to play anymore
What an hypocrite, he "calls out on bullshit", but when WE call him out, he whines like a baby, just about every time. He cried against a boss fight in a Souls mod and shat on it, yet I used his own slow-ass weapon, which didn't even had the best Infusion for my purpose, I was naked since I needed mobility, both conditions for the first phase he couldn't surpass, and despite being in NG+3, I beat the dual bosses mostly fine, yet I feel like I still have more to learn about the games. I'm just playing them because I like it, instead of forcing myself to be an "expert" of sorts. He may be right everybody's entitled to their own opinions, and I don't know whom he had in mind like those that purposely target 1st time Souls players, but this is just extreme hyperbole, everytime I've heard complaints about others playing these games, it's due to liars like DSPGaming whom pretends he never used a guide, but somehow knew every strategies in the weirdest circumstances. Heck, it's not just Souls, I could also debate with "angry reviewers" like AVGN shitting on games like Kid Kool and Milon's Secret Castle, both games I've beaten without much issues unlike him. If it's about videos online, I just want something that's freaking watchable, I want the person to stand out from the crowd, try something, I'm not going to watch Generic Guy #15621 when I've seen 300 others whom added nothing more. I simply told him "Hey, maybe use a shield against these optional bosses that turn you to paste everytime", like there's no shame with the Black Onyx Greatshield by his very own logic, and I've even brought up other strengths of the mod which he was dismissing as he kept shitting on it, but then he calls me the absolute worst things you could imagine because he couldn't accept that I'm different, different as in even outside of gaming, which is hypocritical due to his "forced diversity tweets". 5:17 "His parents probably don't even like him", well again whom was he targetting? How would he know? You may say I think too far with this, but no, he does believe his own crazy fantasies, he does mean the most repulsive comments, like how I deserve to be in prison yet he allegedely never reported me as I'm still here. He doesn't practice the garbage he spews out, at all, he's a bloody fake like the rest of 'em. I would be perfectly fine if someone were to beat a single boss in 3 hours, as long as again they tried SOMETHING, but also that maybe they got something out of it and don't just blindly shit on everybody and everything, which isn't the case here.
@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 Except I just played the games without much effort, that's what I'm saying, said boss (if that's my experience with it you're focusing on) really wasn't an issue since I actually looked for a strategy and bothered using a shield if I couldn't dodge, but he gave up on it so fast. Like wasn't overcoming the odds kind of the point of the series to begin with? I just made it harder by using his own gear to prove a point, and I was also leveling up through the NG+s, I kept getting better. There's "Hey, play however you want", which I somewhat agree with, but then there's "Okay, you play like fucking shit", and guys like him cannot fathom the latter.
Not sure what side of the coin you are, but still it's nice to see someone else on the same train of thought; he pretends he wants people to play these games however they like, like they can use whichever tools are at their disposal, but he whines himself whenever he's pushed against a wall and doesn't even read the guides he uses right.
@@Neon_Henchman Idk much about the guy but what you explained kinda fits his character. He tends to whine a lot for no reason. He's partially right about gatekeeping, people should be allowed to play in any way they like and even abuse mechanics if they want and there's nothing wrong with it. But saying sorc isn't easy mode is just wrong and to mald over it is even more ridiculous, maybe it hurt his ego since since he's playing sorc. For eg - In my first playthrough I encountered a bell bearing hunter at warmaster shack and I struggled for while with him for sure, while this dude got on torrent and threw pebbles. If that isn't called cheesing then idk what is, there's nothing wrong with it but denying that it isn't cheesing and malding about it makes him look stupid tbh.
@@bigfootisreal_ Yeah, magic for me, it depends on the situation when it's especially useful, like I struggle against enemies with big shields early game, buuut I can't hide I use the Crystal Soul Spears when I finally get all I need, they mow bosses. As you say, there's no shame in playing a certain way, but I still don't get to this day why he threw away a shield he said some good about when he needed it for a boss duo he eventually gave up on, I find it odd that me, playing it casually, could triumph over him in less tries, made me doubt his actual skillset.
Oh i love the clowns complaining about "accessibility". Soulsborne is not for you, go play something else because there quite literally are millions of other videogames.
He’s not complaining about accessibility, hes complaining about people gatekeeping what is and isn’t acceptable in the game (builds, items, mechanics etc)
Imo you quite literally are what people hate about the community. The gatekeeping narcissistic neckbeards. Hoe about YOU go play another game cuz the Soulsborne community ain't claiming you🤢