Film Study: Does Kyle Shanahan deserve Criticism for the San Francisco 49ers losing to the Chiefs 

I agree with you in-game certainly. I also think they could have had an 85 Bears like performance with a far better secondary than Chicago had. KC had the better secondary overall, but the 49ers DLine was playing at a level that you did not need a blitz and imagine being able to double Kelce plus have 2 worthy corners for man2man coverage(when you only have Rice to account for) in addition to that. Whoever it was that was responsible blew it! It's also very, very possible that with a 5 man front--with as well as SF was playing with only 4--KC would only have 2 pass catchers on pass plays! Imagine only having to stop 2 or 3 players in the passing game every single time! Because KC did not have a legit offense for a SB contender, SF had liberties that defenses almost never get! AND, THE COACH(ES) ABSOLUTELY BLEW IT! SEEING AS HOW SF IS VET HEAVY, CALL BELICHICK UP NOW! HE CAN GET AN OC TO WORK WITH BROCK A WHOLE OFFSEASON!

My father (a big 49er fan) and I (a Denver fan cheering for the niners) were saying the same thing. Or throw a screen to McCaffrey!

No shit lmao, but it’s all hindsight bias. In the moment, the decisions made were pretty standard and it’s mostly a pass protection problem during some of those critical moments

@@jasoneng3161you got it. Finally see someone with the logical take. Really the 9ers did what they could, it just wasn’t enough.

That Purdy was able to make this amount of plays with this Revolving door instead of an O line is great by itself.

@@jasoneng3161Exactly lol. If they run on that 3rd & 4 like the experts are proclaiming and they get stuffed, now what? “Just go for it on 4th.” Okay, then if they don’t get it, those same people would be asking why he didn’t kick the FG lol.

Can be said for both teams

It was predetermined

@@mikehunt6088 I hope you’re atleast wearing your tin foil hat when saying this government might be listening

​@@PrfctPlyrif you just sat back and actually thought for half an hour how easy it would be to predetermine a football game script you might be surprised. NFL doesn't need a set list of plays or scores. Coaches already do that for them.

He's improving too it is better than years past yet the same mistakes show in clutch time

Same with the damn ravens

Mcaffery was getting shut down

@@maxwelloverton5543 run the ball with a lead to drain the clock. No reason to have 3-3 and outs and not control the clock at least

@@maxwelloverton5543Didn’t CMC have like 5 yards per carry?

Right. That would be worse

If not for a hold they go 3 and out immediately and all the Chiefs would have to do is score a FG. What they score is irrelevant when they both get to possess and at least the second possessing team gets to have 4 downs.

Missed extra point

​@@wrz2k143 It was the muffed punt. That's what opened the door to the Chiefs.

I agree. There's a pre-existing narrative that needed to be serviced

QB is "elite" because of the system. Purdy is a game manager, and his stats will reflect that. The difference in this game, is that Andy Reid knew that he could turn the gunslinger Mahomes loose, whereas Purdy can't take over the game from the pocket.

facts, you have to build on leads playing Pat, the play calling was bad in the 3rd

I said the same thing and hes done this the whole playoffs trying to flex brock purdy instead of building a lead

I feel like you just explained how a football game works and thought that was an interesting perspective somehow.

Eh I feel like taking the ball makes complete sense because the defense really needed a rest if they were to have a chance

​@@jasoneng3161Yielding the strategic advantage of second possession for rest was critical, otherwise Mahomes would have just done whatever he wanted against them. Oh, wait...

That’s how you know the game was obviously rigged

But even if he was blocked, #20 Justin Reid was coming and would have gotten through either way.

He’s doing a fantastic job as a head coach he’ll have his day soon

He is a professional HC with dozens of peoples within his organization and refs next to him explaining the rules. 49ers are notorious for wanting leads and trusting defense....but they don't take in account it was against patrick mahomes.

@@CSM_Kobeni yeah I hope he is being facetious and doesn’t actually think Shanahan doesn’t know the rules…

How old are those rules? I remember the old rules being the first to score a touchdown immediately ends the game, but if the first team scores a field goal, then the other team gets the ball.

@@admiralgree3873Yeah those are the rules for regular season only. For postseason, which changed after 2021-2022 season, give both teams a guaranteed possession. If game clock runs out and one team still hasn’t finished possession, it begins a new “quarter”. If game is still tied after first possessions, then next score wins the game.

It’s apart of the game it goes both ways u think 🤔 San Francisco wasn’t getting away with calls hmm yeah right

Chiefs DB held at a critical 3 and out, and it was called.

I'll do you one better. How about 88 drop backs by Mahomes in two Super Bowls with zero holding calls. I got nothing, it seems if you are the darling of the NFL you always get those calls on your sidem

Nah plan bad pass protection

@@Jetsua02 every drive of the OT chiefs oline was probably holding too. But no one blocking chris jones there is just a mind boggling mistake only these niners teams make. But was it really a mistake of that nature or was it riggy

@@MyMason911exactly bro 😂 like these guys are not middle schoolers and Colton just leaves his assignment to block someone else than Chris Jones, an all pro DT. Like cmon man 😂 don’t make it so obvious

Yeah it’s super obvious, those who rig this stuff are laughing at casuals for not understanding how fake it is, at this point

It becomes multiple "layers" of crap in crunchtime.

If chiefs had that lead 49ers should just go home already.

It is if you ugly up the game. Turn it into smashmouth football. Shanahan is out there trying to prove he can win on their terms... when it's totally unnecessary.

Trent Williams, Aaron Banks,Jake Brendel, Jon Feliciano, Colton McKivitz? Their oline is no better nor worse than kansas city.. only difference is one has Mahomes and another has a game manager. And the 49ers have struggled against good defenses especially rush defenses all year.

@@guts7518this isn’t on Brock Purdy

The game was rigged. Did you see the O lineman literally turn to the right and totally ignore Chris Jones, and just pretend to block air? Most obvious fake game I’ve seen

​​@@guts7518shoutout to mahomes but that man put up 19 points in regulation and only got a touchdown because of a muffed punt. Chris Jones dominated that "no better or worse" oline in key moments stopping 2 wide open touchdowns because that "no better or worse" oline decided to double team someone else instead of the damn best defensive player on the field. That same oline killed momentum on drives with bullshit holding and false start penalties. That chiefs oline stepped up when it mattered most the niners oline didn't. That "game manager" made the correct read every play but had 95 in his chest at the point of release because he either was singled up or flat out went unblocked. McDuffie went unblocked and smoked him as well.

Cause of a muffled punt? I do believe the 49ers only made it to the superbowl cause of a helmet catch against the Lions. And Mahomes made all the right reads besides the pass to Kelce that resulted in an interception although he was trying to tell kelce to go deeper for the 1st down. Purdy missed Aiyuk for a wide open TD. And almost had two interceptions. @@myleslewis655

Right, but he continued to call a terrible game and made zero in game adjustments like usual. Turn overs happen, mistakes happen, good coaches adjust and win the game regardless. Kyle folds anytime there is a hint of adversity. The chiefs fumbled the ball,and mahomes threw a pick in plus territory. The chiefs still won because Reid is a great head coach who figures out a way to win the game.

@@JaneDoey Another armchair expert lol. If the players execute better on one play, the whole conversation changes. Don’t give me “he should have ran.” That’s hindsight bias

@@JBullock54 ​The point is that both teams made mistakes. That was a wash. Capitalizing on mistakes is another matter.

It's 4 at this point. The Falcons game counts.

well said..... I agree. he just doesn't have the mo jo....too nervous and what is going on that head ? questions during the game......he stinks in the big games.....stinks....the so called "genius" get an O line...

They keep blaming his QBs both Matt and now Brock but it's Kyle who's the promblem.

@michaelyoung2978 Yea Matt, Jimmy and now Brock have all played well, Matt and Brock better than Jimmy but it's not all 3 of their fault and none of his. Just crazy to me.

Kyles offense sure fails when it really counts in the big games, three times now!

Not necessarily. You need to kick the FG to tie if push comes to shove. But you're right; you go for it until you get into FG range, at least. But don't you think the team that goes first has to consider going for it, knowing they might not get it back from a great QB, as well?

@@mvpfocus I'd say go for it on 4th and goal from inside the 5 yard line if you're facing Mahomes. Otherwise, I'd just take a fg, or punt from outside fg range, and pray for a stop by the defense.

Chiefs fumbled in a goal to go situation. Mahomes threw an int the first series of the second half, trying to force it. Same difference. It all evens out. The edge is that Mahomes is a tad bit more clutch than Purdy.

_shat_

Shanahan shat the bed, any good coach destroys the chiefs with that team, dude is a fucking fraud

And also, in SB 54 in the 4th quarter, he had a 20-10 and still lost

Was he the defensive coordinator in Atlanta? For all the b******* and moaning I hear How about your defense come up with a f****** stop? You had the lead.

Yeah, It definitely wasn't holding on KC so many times. Two super bowls, 88 drop backs, zero holding calls. Can't win if they don't allow the guys to touch Patrick.

5 man front with 6 on the back end is an absolutely terrible scheme. They were getting pressure with 4 most of the game. I'm so confused by your statement.

This isn't on Wilks. PAT just started to figure out their defense at the right time where no counters could be made in time. They had them bottled up most of the game but it's only a matter of time.

@@Andre_Jordan They defense played very hard, but they were schematically off. With the right scheme, they have no problems stopping KC at any point. They made the same mistake the Ravens did! He definitely make critical errors!

Wilks had defense ready to play…even with Greenlaw out they held up to the end…before last play KC ran Shanny should’ve call a TO so team can come up with a plan

@@Jetsua02 No it is not for the Chiefs offense this year. Eventually, Mahomes got easy 1st downs running and that's one thing the 5 man front clogs up esp as well as they played last night. Plus, you can double Kelce and still single up the rest. You would press plus get to Mahomes all the time(they were doing that often with 4)...You don't take luxuries for granted; they could not do that on every offense, but, on KC, they could thrive doing it! AND, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN OT EITHER!

Andy Reid didn't tell Mahomes to throw an Int, or tell Pacheco to fumble near the goal line, though, right? Mistakes were a wash.

Your argument for yielding the strategic advantage of 2nd possession is that otherwise the Chiefs would have scored easily....just like they did against the rested defense?

@MikeHarvey-ol7xr im saying from a coaches perspective sending the defense out after just doing a long drive doesnt make as much sense. Hindsight is 20/20 but i understand wanting the ball first and giving your defense a second to breath. If the 49ers had scored when burdy had a man wide open kyle wouldnt be facing the same criticism. The real let down coaching wise wasnt the ot decision but not putting the game out of reach after the int and not running the ball in the second half nearly enough. They had way too many chances to put an end to the game and let the chiefs continue to hang around which we all know mahomes is like brady and montana, you let him hang around and it comes back to haunt you

@@fuckgoogle9061 Thank you for a thorough and thoughtful reply. I questioned the decision at the time, just as Romo did, and I still hold that opinion. But, having discussions with people such as yourself has shown me that it was a much more nuanced decision than I first believed.

@MikeHarvey-ol7xr I truly enjoy having a real discussion too where both of us can present opinions and see different perspectives. I will say to your point though the thing that shocked me was how many 49er players were not aware of the ot rules as a coach should have his team prepared for all aspects of the game. Chris jones mentioned how the chiefs and andy reid had throughly gone over the playoff ot rules as early as training camp which definitely points to reid being more prepared than kyle for the ending of that game

Did we watch the same game? The defense was dominant all night.

The loss of Greenlaw didn’t help the D.

lmfao

I don’t blame you lol

As opposed to him easily scoring a TD on a "rested" defense?

@@MikeHarvey-ol7xr but a rested defense had a better chance of stopping him. They almost stopped him twice.

@@moneymaker7307 There is an argument for both sides, I just don't think the potential increased likelyhood of a stop was worth giving up the strategic advantage of 2nd possession. Against another team? Maybe. But, not Reid & Mahomes imo.

There is not much of strategic advantage if you believe your defense could prevent a touch down. That defense have done a great job from preventing a touch down drive all through 4 quarters, Other than the play where Mahome capitalized on a muffed punt. Base on how the game was going it make more sense for 49er to receive the ball. If the game was a shootout then I understand kicking ball base on the rules of the game. That decision was made base on analytics.

He didn't go down field until after CMC caught it. It was legal.

Both olines were terrible