Film Theory: Did Rick CLONE Beth - SOLVED! (Rick and Morty) 

literally just about to comment this

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What about the plot hole where the kids are at school during the episode?

The Film Theorists also if you pause the scene where Beth looks at the fridge the magnets spell out STAY

Clone

*yes*

espacially after season 4 final episode, the whole "Is Beth a clone" stuff is so confusing!

she can still be real or a clone at this point in time XP

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makes sense

Good idea!

I completely agree. She could've stayed until the clone was ready around 9:30. The fact that she's still in the house prior to that proves nothing.

exactly. i was gonna comment this but you did the work so i'm gonna leave a like on your comment.

Oh shit that's actually good

Turns out it is neither

yeah but we know that a clone was made, so the creators probably weren't doing any of this on purpose

in the pocket morty app space beth is named "clone beth"

Spoilers

@@phoenixcrown9966 Huh?

I thought of that aswell

No that's ingeneus since at the end of season 4 it shows the clone and the real Beth in those Captuls

later with space beth it shows that beth was cloned later yes but the real best seems to be home

You've got a good point there

Double theory: we know Rick keeps clones around like a junk drawer of backup jump drives you keep forgetting to throw out. Who is to say Rick didn’t make the Beth clone ahead of time, knowing this was a proposition he was offering her and not wanting to make her wait if her true calling was to leave? He could have had that clone germinating while they went to the penitentiary and it was ready whenever she was

Kayla Exactly, they didn’t change or alter it

I record with a phone they did break it, tho.

They messed with time on the first episode. Morty's legs and broken and Rick goes to get some miraculous syrum. Rick is gone for a few seconds but he tells a story of going to a dimension where people don't age. He spent so much time there that his portal gun ran out of charge.

thats the furthess they're willing to go

@@gurujot951 or the dimension he went to aka Planet he ended up on was close to a large gravitational force causing gravitational time dilation.

Ikr

Lol

That could imply that it's a show about the first Beth "alpha-beth" which would also imply that the Beth at the end was a clone

Well then it wouldnt be a reference to abcs of death anymore

@Jittery Jared Yep, was gonna say the same thing. Many of the episodes' names (if not all) are references to movies, And this one is a reference to the collaboration film "The Abcs of Death"

Yeah it really shows how lazy these guys are with their research

I mean its a simple mistake is all

@@shanemcdowell6722 you can't always think of everything bro simple mistakes happen

@@user-jf6zu8gv4h they do realize this happened during season 3 right...?

@@shanemcdowell6722 this happened during season 3 where we didn't even know if a clone was made or not

Lol

Answer: Yes

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Except we still don't know who the clone is.

Because MatPat is always so dead on in his predictions.....

He explained it to her like he's already done it several times before. So I wouldn't surprise me if you're right

Yeah your right

i had the same idea the moment the time issue was mentioned, and my thoughts continued to the point of there being a room with backups of the whole family incase one or more die and he doesn't want to leave the dimension.

@@liamnehren1054 A good idea, but if he had clones he wouldn't have had to create the android versions of Summer and Morty for episode 2 when they wanted to stay in the post-apocalyptic world

I thought it was a reminder rick couldve cloned rick a buncha times, and this is why beth is always so depressed, the healthy beths leave and die

I though that exact same thing

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Or they just waited till the next day to even start cloning. That seems to be what happened considering Beth and clone Beth were both in tubes being shuffled in the season 4 finally.

I hight doubt that. the clone woulda been ready an hour after they started eating and she seems way to happy to be with her family

I think the people who made the show were trying to hint at the fact that it wasn’t a clone

I mean, to be fair it's both their faults. Firstly, a love potion in itself would've already been a violation. You're forcing them to be in love with you and make out with you without their consent. While Morty was still young and probably too immature to realize that, it's still messed up. And secondly, it is his Grandfather's fault for not even thinking about that or caring. He didn't care about the repercussions, he just gave his grandson a love potion. And lastly, he was the one to make it from the begining and made things worse in the end. It's like giving a kid a gun when they ask for it, they're both sort of at fault but really the adult should've been the most responsible therefore it really is just Rick's fault in the end. He's been too reckless with everyone too. But yeah, I do agree lol. It doesn't even matter because none of these Beths are probably even his.

Eee wrong that Beth is their real beth and the beth they killed was also their real Beth because keep in mind when they shifted realities they didnt use interdimentional travel but rather the many worlds theory travel where different realities are created of the same universe everytime there is a decision to be made where reality splits to create all infinite possibilities. Ps( Secondly rick doesnt know which beth is real beth therefore the creators also dont know which beths the original...they cant because they literally created an episode depicting that there is no way to know...so all that they do know is that they dont know)

oh my god you blew my mind

@@tempgangster4952 It also makes sense that it doesn't even matter which Beth is which since Rick C137's beth died as a child anyway when Rick was presented with the portal gun for the first time.

@@shlorpian9863 That was a fake memory he made up to escape prison.

“How about a quick Hand bond" xD

I was thinking the same thing.. gross

I was waiting for this comment to appear

I thought that it was from that episode and I’m like u know wat dat means right Ima tell ur wife

🤢

I did

Same

Sad ending bro

Same

Is season 4 over?

Yea fr 😂

Not exactly, from THAT scene it could still be original beth, they could did it afterwards or even meanwhile that same scene, i dont remember if beth from season 4/5 gives us a date she maked her clone

When you also realised that the rick and morty mobile game proves his theory

I think space Beth is a clone and the earth Beth is real, like matpat said.

@@koramawin6134 it’s most likely true, considering the pocket mortys game literally called space beth “clone beth”

xd_Phoenix exactly the thing you say to a clone to implant a fear of running off

Алмазный Пёс but if you were rick, would you really give the clone the option to think that? Or just take the thought out of her brain entirely.

@@smo_phoenix You wouldn't give the clone Beth's memory of asking to be cloned in the first place. Simple.

Rick also said he’s never tortured multiple Morty’s in the past, but there’s evidence ????

Visplight exactly

My thought exactly!

True

As demonstrated by the "cards" or "sleeves" of Morty seen in a part of the intro. Those could be construed as clones.

Well we did figure out he had several clones of himself from the Tiny Rick episode so yeah its definitely possible.

Geometricsolitude well I mean he did have robots

Andromeda Lps that’s what you would say to a clone

Technically Rick didn’t say, “you’re not a clone.” He said, “You are my daughter.” Which means he didn’t say she isn’t a clone, he is just stating that she is still his daughter even if a clone.

The very reason that she changes to being more chill proves that she is real

@@Kaidorah he already said earlier she isnt really his daughter, he left her behind on earth c137, remember?

And Rick never lies?

A week later, now we know

what the fuck is that from?

Rick and Morty

RavenclawPride what episode

Aidan Panter Rick and Morty dip-shit

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He can also remove memory and keep memory, like in Morty Mindblower episode

That scene was definitely still the real Beth, if there is a clone, it probably wouldn't have that memory.

He would so that the clone would think she DECIDED to stay home. This would prevent the situation from coming up again.

@@greenbanana6573 That makes sense.

*_im pretty sure every living thing know rick is not stupid_*

SlickNickP when did he say that

@@poopoo69000 he didn't, but Rick's smart, so why would he purposefully make it so he's have to deal with clone Beth questioning whether she's real or not. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to keep the clone unaware of what's happened before, so that it's easier for Rick

Unless rick wants her to realise she is a clone

Remember when Rick made clones of Summer, Morty, and himself for Beth. And they were having dinner and before they left to be shut down Morty started to become self aware and was powered down. Same story maybe.

@@electrolaurel580 They were robots, and RoboMorty was breaking free of his programming. They all knew they were robots

Great idea!

Makes sense

Bruhh

Dan Simons I agree

Dan Simons That's what I was thinking!

Yup, I was gonna say that. Also, his fucking voice is annoying as hell.

*mind blown* your right!!

I was about to point this out so....where does that fit in

So... this is either a continuity error or they were late on going to their dad like more than a day (episode starts sunday).

yeah but the day with Jerry is on Sunday and the day he worns is the next day making it monday during school

saniz nah cause the next episode she thought she was the clone but if she really was the clone rick wouldn’t have made her remember the conversation of her possibly being cloned

And rick said there is no chance that the clone would become aware so if it was the clone she wouldn’t have known about the possibility of being a clone but since it was the real Beth she thought she was the clone

yeah I think she was just being paranoid and isn’t aware that Rick can alter memories and straight up erase them and put them in tubes anytime he felt like it

Copycat

Slim Reaper if she was the real Beth, she would have no doubt know she’s the real Beth. Her and the clone would have the same memory to the point Rick would take her DNA to clone her, there would be a memory lapse between that time and her being cloned... which mean the clone Beth would know she thought about it but wouldn’t know if the real Beth left or not. Only the real Beth would know if she stayed and wouldn’t have any doubt she left as she has no memory lapse... the fact that the current Beth isn’t sure if she is the clone or not, proves she is missing the memory of what she did after she made the decision..... the current Beth is a clone and even Rick told Beth that they are both a like... and we all know Rick left the family and Beth did too.

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I think they shouldn’t. Look at Destiny 2’s time travel mess. I don’t want that to happen to Rick and Morty

Austin Hovey they already did

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Truuuuuuuue

purple lion rick wouldve killed her in the episode after because she becomes self aware, which is impossible because its a clone and if it did happen rick would have killed her

Yea but the theory is if she's a clone in that scene. not that is going to be replaced

purple lion much better than the actual video that took too fucking long just to say yea she didn’t leave 😐

good point, they're acting that way at the end of the episode to make everything seem normal until the next day, where beth is replaced by a clone.

It would give Beth a chance to see her kids before she leaves

It would make alot of sense. She would want to see her kids at least, one last time.

The "Perfect Clone" guns use the "lifeforce" of another creature to grow quickly [or alternatively: There is only a 50% chance of it working at all -> it is only for inminent death (99.99% chance of dying the next minute)].

clone gender is a madlab

@Luke Burger A FILM THEORY

@@blessedisyou and cut

But i mean it still means that was still beth lol

Good theory dude

I thought this when I saw the episode. Hes right that was Beth but that was the last time we saw her. #shesaclone

I didn't even consider that, it could still technically be a clone from now on then, good thought.

good thinking!

Wow you...you blew my mind

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Quick someone make this comment rise!

Thought of this, so i looked in the comments XD

Nice catch, fatal flaw in the theory

Jerry takes the kids outa school, so Monday. Also beth makes a reference to season 1 in the next episode. Something that is very specific to rick throughout the series (excluding Mr.poopybutthole

Great Catch

or the creators don't put in that much thought

No, in total agreement. The kids timeline doesn’t match with what matpat put up.

Johnny Stevens we are here to over analyze, good sir, and everyone is working under the assumption, I feel, that the creators DO put that much thought into it. Rick and Morty has always been a show that cares about the small details, after all.

@@johnnystevens1063 are I ok? They dont put in much thought? Bruh

Was gonna comment exactly this

That's true

Isagail oh that's true

Maybe it was club related event?

Isagail and guess who still gets to monetize this video even though he's wrong

Summer school ?

Rick might've just cloned Beth so that some version of her could go out on a journey, then once the clone's finished her journey Rick could just transfer her memories to the real Beth

Jamie did you watch the finale?

Leann Abad TV not yet since I live in the Uk and I’m against piracy but I do know that there is 2 beths

I feel space Beth is the real Beth but I'm down for two Beths

legit if rick looked into it he prob could figure who it is

Shaunak Deshpande that makes no sense but it makes sense at the same time (get it)

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Even is because of the multiverse 😂

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Shaunak Deshpande , lol

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He didn’t go back in time he went to a universe where people were so advanced they didn’t age

@@TOKYO-ft2lq That's not the problem, he said he was there a long time but it was merely seconds since he left. My conclusion is that it's a Narnia (?) universe, just as in season 5 episode 1.

How do you know?

Yep

@@emeruemeru5250 Watch the last episode

I am pretty sure rick don't know who the clone is.

@@emeruemeru5250 but we know that there IS a clone

CrazyComedyKid is that sarcasm or not

hotel? trivago

What if Rick already made a beth clone

True bc season 3 is a clone

ABC'S of BETH A BETH CLONE OF BETH

Rick always said mixing monkey and dinosaur DNA would add up to a normal human. In his own words, "Sometimes science is more art than science." Hell, in the same season we saw his robots grow self-aware in less than an week. If he can't control an AI he fully programmed, how would he control a clone?

McKenzie Hyneman *Watches a Video where guy says, “Ergo”* * uses word to sound smart in comments*

Hardy Nation didn't need matpat to tell me how to use the word Ergo. It's a basic word in the english vernacular.

Ewertton Tadeu memory erasing gun in Rick's basement

Ewertton Tadeu no, sorry. He later admitted that he wasn't paying attention to morty and he half assed the love potion. All side effects that followed were because of the initial lack of caring, not inability.

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The other main hole is that it was already Monday. Saturday: Rick and Beth arc find Froopy land while Morty and Summer arc go to Jerry's. Morty, Summer and Jerry get sushi (Saturday). To celebrate the end of the hunt Sunday they will celebrate with another hunt. Sunday ends in the car. Monday Morty and Summer are pulled from school. The show was showing Beth and Rick from Saturday to Sunday and Morty and Summer from Saturday to Monday. There is an entire day that was free on the Rick and Beth arc and thats enough to make a clone.

Weager_bombastic 1 spoiler alert the beth is real

She does wonder if she was a clone, but look at what I said.

It holds no water because it's revealed that she's real at the end of the last episode :P

FUCKKKKK thats right!! i hope Matt sees this and gives an explanation. Good call on this one

I think the same thing. For all the talk about time and dates MatPat overlooks one of the most obvious things. I think Beth did really got to bed after they got back from the Execution but then the next day asks her Father while the Kids are at school, this would leave them more then enough time to clone Beth as the other three are running away from an alien all day.

Shinjiji or the whole theory needs to be shifted from Sat-Sun to Sun-Mon. Maybe they were a whole day "late" for Jerry and Rick didn't care until he needed to talk to Beth alone.

I thought of that as well! I think MatPat's timeline is off

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yeah that was on my mind to.

DGBH Sunday school? It exists you know...

RedyAndSalt ed That's a church thing

Kapow Kow and...

Looks like this theory is busted.

Or she was nice because she realised Rick was not half the shitty father she thought, giving her some closure on her own parenting. And that is what I got seeing only fragements of the Episode.

Creepercreepersin I was thinking she was happy cuz Rick would clone her but I agree

He can stop time

Aaron Raught oh shoot you are right

1:46 omg THATS me

I don't think it was the real Beth, MatPat missed one very massive clue that shatters his entire theory and that is the fact that the kids went to school. I'm no expert on school nowadays, but I'm almost certain that Sunday School is a religious thing, not a public school thing, and the whole Smith family doesn't seem very religious. So the reality is that if the execution happened on a Sunday, there is an entire day between Beth making her decision and the kids finally coming home. My theory on how it really plays out, the kids go to Jerry's on Saturday and stay the two nights, then go to school Monday morning and home after school. What this means for the theory is that if they went to school, it had to be Monday, meaning they returned home Monday night, not Sunday. Meanwhile, Beth and Rick cloned Tommy and returned Sunday evening where they end with her making the decision and then skipping to Monday evening after the kids returned from Jerry's, or school if they chose to go back. So you have a whole day in which Rick could clone Beth if she wanted to. Further cementing this is the restaurant Arnoldo's being closed, which is a common practice of many small restaurants to close on Monday which is often the slowest day of business while Sunday they open due to it being a weekend and much of their business comes from weekends.

They had said that Arnoldos was close because of daylights savings. Meaning time was pushed back or forward 1 hour. So it was possible they were just closed because it was late.

Jam Masterjam THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!

Maybe just MAYBE Rick has some spare clones of his 'complete' family lying around like he did with his clones in the tiny rick episode.

Jam Masterjam I agree whole heartedly. I don't think Beth is the original at the end of the season.

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Space beth is real Why clone yourself just to stay home. The clone belongs at home.

I watch it to

@@chopxstix UNTIL HE RUNS OUT OF GAS

the show already revealed what happened

@@testtest-je8xb but they don’t reveal how it happened, they just say that there’s a clone Beth, but there’s no explanation for how Beth was cloned

ahh yes dragons

Rick and dragon

Dragon and morty

@@alejandragoro7115 no

Dragon and morty

Jerry DID grab them out of school, that means it's monday and it means there's been almost a day to clone Beth. Seems like FT missed a spot.

+cyka blyat but how would the clone ever go as far as to be convinced that she is a clone if her memory of the possibility that a clone of Beth could exist was erased?

cyka blyat she did..

Klr Rabbit he's not perfect, he makes several mistakes and overlooking trough the seasons, the Chronenberg shit happened because Rick forgot to warn about the flu to Morty and the same thing happened in the squirrel case. He can think he is so perfect sometimes to be extra careful and that could be the case to Clone Beth

If he had wiped it off, then the clone would have the existential crisis again, and thus he would have to make another clone, it would make no sense at all. He can't wipe any memory off in order for the clone to be like Beth and not realize something is wrong.

the clone might've been pickled like the clones in the tiny rick episode

yeah i read all of that

But the citadel is made up of transedimensional ricks not clones

The scar may have been something Rick added so that he would know who's the clone.

@@marraer481 then why doesnt he know who is the clone? At the end

@@Jayinbed Yes, but the news anchors are Rick D716 (who doesn’t have a scar) and Rick D716-B (who does have a scar) meaning that second one could be a clone and also @Marraer When you see the two clones floating in the cloning tank neither has a scar. So maybe clones develop scars overtime

This is the smartest one so far

Interesting...

That's exactly what I thought. I was about to comment it until I saw your's.

Rick also tells Beth over the phone that if she became self aware that means he would have to terminate her. She cry.

jen monrroy h-h-Hamilton Reference?

jen monrroy Who lives who dies who tells your story

Hamilton Reference!

what. have. you. done. I'M STILL HURTING UGH

**finger guns** Ayeeeeee

Or she probably got cloned after the pizza which is what I think actually happened since Beth’s cloning seemed more complicated than Tommy’s according to the Season 4 finale montage 🤷‍♂️

Or maybe just teleported the whole car lmao

Yeah I mean, they were in a hurry to end an execution.

This comment aged really poorly in a day lmao

@@oribargil3958 lmao lol