The only defense I can give for Han is when talking about the kessel run he never says he did it. He brags about the falcon saying that it is the ship that made the run.
Yes but also he doesn’t crash the coaxium they need to give to vos it the people trying to stop him that make that happen and also a navigational system just plans a route and doesn’t control the mellenuim falcon unless is autopilot why barley happens you can clearly see that he is flying and is in control of the falcons every move L3 just is making a route for everything
Isn’t Han’s driving actually pretty good up to that point at the start though? He pulls some good drifts and manages to navigate a crowded street. Also, he must have some decent knowledge to be able to flip a car he stole the exact same day 90 degrees on command. The only thing that actually stops him is overconfidence, he probably would have made it otherwise.
ALSO DON'T FORGET C3PO SPOKE TO THE MILLENNIUM FALCON! AND I QUOTE "SIR I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR SHIP LEARNED TO SPEAK, BUT IT HAS THE MOST PECULIAR DIALECT!" MIND BLOWN!
@@AlexanderScott66 No, it's definitely the droid system implemented into the ship. If if you don't agree with MatPat's theory, it is still solid fact that there is a sentient being inside the Millenium Falcon.
The irony of this theory for me was you saying, "Han is a liar" right in the beginning, and my immediate thought was, "You didn't realize that years ago?"
I mean, if you're kicked out of flight school (for any reason), you still aren't learning to fly. Doesn't really matter if he was kicked out for being disobedient or if he was just that bad of a pilot. If they kicked him out, he wasn't learning to fly
@@ghuxsuperfan3066 that is a point, and I understand that he could have learned a thing or two, but the point of him bring kicked out still means he wasnt learning a flying. The reason doesnt really matter all that mich, especially since he crashed the very next time he tried to fly. So while he might have improved, that improvement isnt shown until the AI is inside the (I'm so sorry for my spelling) melenimum falcon, and is only continued to be shown while inside that very same aircraft. Even when no one is in the cockpit or the pilot is different. The theory may be wrong, but it is good enough to hold up (at least in my opinion)
@@ghuxsuperfan3066 well, I can't prove that, but due to the fact the crashed into a mountain instead of turning the very next time he flew, probably points toward him not learning that move in class. His thread the needle move, is super complex to pull off, and since Han isn't excelling in the basics of flight, I think it's safe to assume he didn't learn it in flight school. Like, I suck at basic Spanish, so I'm not going to be taught advanced or honors Spanish. In comparison, Han sucks at basic flying, so it doesn't make sense that he would be taught or that he would excel in complex flight maneuvers.
In all fairness, Han probably became general for something fairly small, like, I don't know: _helping to destroy the first Death Star_ . Holdo he is not.
@@Testingthisname I think you have a very limited view point on militaries. Not all militaries have had clear chains of command, and certainly haven't had slow progressive promotion structures like the modern established military. And then there are honorary ranks. For one, the Rebel Alliance, is an Alliance, not an individual military. Maybe he is a general of the Corellian faction and only commands like 8 people. IDK
I mean with L3 in the Falcon, it's just like having a really detailed google maps installed for your car. So maybe it tells you where to go, but you still have to be good at driving to follow the route. Not to mention, maybe the reason why Han's flying got good when he was in the Falcon is that the Falcon is a good ship. I mean most of the time you hear Han bragging more about his ship, calling it the "fastest hunk of junk in the galaxy". Han isn't a failure of a pilot, he's a great pilot with an even greater ship.
Probably not, the key to his swagger is believing his own hype. Without it, Han's just another sad sack scoundrel scraping together enough credits to live off of on backwater outer rim worlds.
Han didn’t lie. He tells Obi Wan that “it’s the ship that made the kessel run in 12 parsecs” he never sold himself as the pilot that made the run in 12.
@@yo_itz_hayden2237 When it comes to something like smuggling, there is something to brag about in finding a shorter route to the same destination while still avoiding authorities. It also speaks to the ship, since a faster ship means you could, at least in theory, cut things much closer since you could be gone or nearly gone by the time someone spots you
The expanded universe version was much cooler. He was at the top of his class at pilot academy, but leaves imperial service when he commits insubordination by helping out a wookie slave that was being abused (Chewbacca). Wedge and Hobbie Klivian are also much cooler in the EU. Wedge started out as a smuggler who worked for the Rebellion, while Hobbie defected with Biggs after they mutinied and took over a modified acclamator repurposed to be a fighter carrier.
@@briant7265 Like it or not, the AI in Falcon is mentioned by C-3PO in Empire Strikes Back. The only problem is fans being too stupid to get Han Solo is lying since the begining.
Still, I've gotta say... It was old George's fault for selling out in the first place. He just couldn't let it end in peace. But maybe he wanted it to be this way...? A lot of creators end up regretting certain choices they've made & would rather see the things that they create die than have to appeal to the never-ending demands of fans. I mean, anything's possible.
Howdy so I have just gotten around to finally watching Solo and I have to respectfully disagree with this theory. Normally I don’t comment on these videos agree or disagree but for the sake of discourse I might as well. So, firstly Han wasn’t kicked out of flight school because of his flying ability, he was kicked out specifically for “having a mind of his own” which implies either he disobeyed orders or he tried to specialize his own piloting style. Secondly, in the open minutes on Corellia it is true that Han fails the “thread the needle” maneuver, but he almost makes it and simply miscalculates the width of the alleyway, which says nothing about his piloting ability. Lastly, L3’s consciousness is put into the falcons Navicomputer, meaning she can help the ship to navigate, but she has no actual control over the flying of the ship itself, meaning that Han’s increase of skill is evident as he navigates the Maelstrom. Furthermore, he does some impressive flying to evade the TIE fighters before L3 was ever uploaded into the computer. So, I believe it is safe to say that Han Solo is and will always be the PILOT who made the Kessel run in 12 Parsecs. But hey that’s just a theory, my theory. Thanks for reading.
I'd agree with this. It helps because none of the disney movies are actually worthy of being considered canon except for maybe rouge one. rey knowing how to fly was just a bad writing decision, not a well thought out plot point.
@@galfinsp7216 4000 - 5000 is his midaclorian count, its what gives sertain people force powers, because they have a stronger connection to the force. Thats why palpatine was interested in anakin in the prequels, he had a midaclorian count of over 20k and its why he is so strong.
Your theory makes sense and I agree. But is it correct to call him a fraud? It's been a while since I've watched the Original Trilogy, but when I think about Han boasting I can't remember when he boasts about his flying skills. It's usually him bragging about his ship. He says- when trying to sell to Obi-Wan and Luke- that his SHIP made the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs, not himself. Just a thought. It also gives deeper meaning every time Lando and Han say it's not their fault when the hyperdrive fails. XD
He also has to drop the Hyper fuel because the marauders were pulling on the fuel at the same time heading for the mountain, they both would have crashed into the mountain otherwise
WHAT! He has to drop the Hyper fuel because the marauders were pulling on the fuel at the same time heading for the mountain, they both would have crashed into the mountain otherwise! "Why doesn't he just turn right," Wow okay.
GoldShot if I remember correctly the ship they are using is used just to move cargo from a star destroyer to the planet. Plus we don’t know how much that fuel and the pure metal hold weights.
gameboyreed4909 No the problem is that the cords couldn’t hold the material and Han wouldn’t be able to get away from Infis Nest while holding it carefully. He really didn’t have a choice in that situation. Plus the ship he’s flying is complicated (just look at all the buttons on the ceiling and front panel) and Rio even says himself “Wow kid you weren’t lying! You’re one hell of a pilot!”
Not gonna lie, Han actually being a mediocre pilot and all of his achievements being due to someone else (a super ai ship) seems perfectly in character to me. At least as far as the films go, I know nothing about the non-movies
Han wouldn't have wanted his newfound (Newfound being right after the events of the Solo movie, I mean.) reputation to be ruined... At least, that's the idea behind this theory, I think.
I always thought Han lied about the Kessle Run just to get more money out of Obi Wan and Luke. Obi Wan even gives him a look of disbelieve as he's bragging about it.
Well he did come into the Rebellion with a wealth of flight experience and his own ship capable of light speed. Before he even officially joined the Rebellion he rescued Princess Leia, helped get the plans to the Rebel base, and rescued Luke Skywalker so he could destroy the Death Star which means he Luke helped save the universe twice and rescued a very important member of the Rebellion and brought in a ship with light speed capability that he maintained ownership of all in one day. So it would make sense that his starting rank would be pretty high. Then after that he saved Luke from freezing to death and saved Leia from the attack on Hoth, saved from the Star Destroyer with his ingenious move of landing in top of the ship and powering down to hide from their sensors then just disconnecting and drifting away when they resleased their garbage and to top it off brought Lando and lord knows how many more new recruit from the Sky City into the Rebel Alliance which probably earned him a promotion or two...
In Legends he graduated the Imperial Academy and was a Lt. before deserting. His skills in the films came from his training and experience. He held legit military ranks before they gave him a command.
Okay MattPat, here is something you missed. Solo didn't get kicked out of the flight academy because of he lacked skill, he got kicked out because he wanted to think for himself (he didn't like being ordered around). So there is that for you.
I thought everyone knew he was a con artist, even from watching the original trilogy I thought that was his thing, lying to Jaba lying to Luke and Ben that's why hes famous hes an amazing con artist.
@@fordo5361 he's literally a con artist and a swindler, a charmer, quick thinker, with an ego. He masterfully picks and chooses his words carefully. Don't forget he literally won the Falcon in a card game, a game that he cheated to win.
5:30 Han Solo couldn’t pull right because his cables weren’t all secure he only had 2 cables attached and if he were to pull away his cables would have detach
And the falcon didn’t have the capabilities of auto pilot because it’s an old shop meaning L3 couldn’t have been piloting and your forgetting that lando and Leah were experienced pilots as for Rey I’ve disowned the sequels because of how op she is like why does she go to find Luke instead of Leah like she’s only his sister and why does she go there cause she doesn’t need training because she already mastered the force without any training which is stupid
Well I know one episode Spongebob aaid that he had to pay Mr Krabs to work, while in others he is refered to getting a pay check and once Mr Krabs fires him so he can save money. I'm not sure how easy it would be to figure out how much he makes, because the show can be pretry inconsistent.
Han was able to pilot the Millennium Falcon, A freighter through the maelstrom while being pursued by TIE fighters. He held his own for the duration until L3 could be hooked up to the navigation system. Han is a good pilot.
Yes, but that doesn’t mean that he was a great, or even competent pilot before that happened. He could have been just scraping by. I hate to say it, but I don’t see anything that contradicts this theory.
Amazing... every word in that sentence was wrong... Just like this theory. Seriously I’m convinced this is an unspoken tradition with Matpat... literally all of his Star Wars theories are absolutely wrong and he knows it. Navigation droid =/= piloting cheat-codes 🤦🏾♂️ Han was kicked out for being Han I.e. a smart mouth insubordinate who "had a mind of his own" 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ The ship Han was piloting was completely fine. The fuel is what blew up. 🤦🏾♂️ Also did he really just ignore the fact he was in a tug of war with those speeders? They literally had grapple guns hooked in! 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ Han actually *lost the sabacc game to Lando. 🤦🏾♂️ Ma-Rey Sue is force sensitive and actually has had previous piloting experience. 🤦🏾♂️ 9:43 that was Chewie flying the falcon in TLJ 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ So much wrong in so little time...
So if you live for a long time flying as a pilot and your experience gets uploaded into a ship then the pilot should get credit? It wasn’t made for a just a. Navigational system plugged into a ship l3 was a pilot
GPSs arent sentient, dont have memories and dont learn. Droids in Star Wars however, have been continually shown to have all those attributes *in addition* to personalities.
Other than what Han was doing on the Kesssel Run while the droid was currently dead and lying on a table..... Edit: During the Kessel Run, when they were being pursued by imperial star fighters, The navigation droid had been shot and Han was expertly flying the Millennium Falcon, dodging and destroying several Tie Fighters.
EmeraldThePro12 NoThanksYou other than what Han was doing? Can you possibly edit this to make sense because I don’t think anyone has any clue what you are trying to say
(While I agree with you) that just means that Han's imperial training helped because he knew how they were trained and how they fly. Because he was one.
@@luke3981 If he was dropped from the academy, he'd only know the basics of flying and maybe a tiny bit of Empire techniques. I doubt any more than could be learned from simple observation
Meerkat More its never stated how long he was in the academy and it depends wether he went to a prestigious pilot academy or not and according to canon there isnt one on corellia
Here’s the thing: Rey being able to fly the Falcon is linked to her being a force user. And Lando knows the ship like the back of his hand in RotJ. It was his and he’s a great pilot. L3 didn’t have anything to do with them
Supernatural_Avocado64 I completely agree, although I count the old movies (OT and prequels) and the new movies as separate universes becauae there is such a disconnect so I don't think it's even fair to compaire OT Han and Rey
UnalloyedBoss75 that’s fine, I was just going off of how MatPat said that Rey never flying before and being so good at it was linked to her being strongly connected to the force.
You know... Since Mat already make theory video of Ash's age. Let's kick it up a notch, the Doctor's age in Doctor Who I mean, the amount of episode of Doctor Who is just 3/4 of episode of Pokemon Or maybe, just another theory related to Doctor Who. Doesn't nessecarily his/her age.
Technically since he changed from and personality every time, u could argue hes however old his current form is, since hes basically a new person, asside from the memories of course
His age in the Classic series is well established and coherent, and he says he’s 953 in “Time and the Rani.” We know the Time War lasted 400 years. But the Tenth Doctor says he’s 903. The thing about Doctor Who is there’s so much media besides the show, and the BBC doesn’t have an established “canon”, but in an Eighth Doctor book he said he lost count and started counting again from his regeneration, which fits with the Time War happening and other events. So according to this theory when the Doctor in the modern show says he’s 900 years old, he may be counting from when he started over. But who knows.
2:42 He didn't win the Falcon in the first card game. Even though Lando cheated, it wasn't the card game that gained them access to the Falcon for the mission!
Also, what Disney could have put in that Millennium Falcon chase scene is that Tey suddenly comments: “I’ve never flown this thing before, yet it’s responding to me more smoothly than I imagined. It’s almost like the ship is flying *itself.* “
Really? Didn’t even mention the 200 year old wookie who was probably doing most of the flying, with more experience than any human would be capable? No? Ok.
L337 wasn't at the controls, Han was. He looks at her database on a screen nearby for guidance and calculations. Did you watch the movie? (This is not an insult, just an honest question, by the way.)
All vehicles are "she", whether it's a classic car, a fishing boat, or a spaceship. It's a long, time-honored tradition when men spent a long time alone doing work with their vehicle as their only companion, so it was donned with a moniker (hence ship names). You also see this in Australia when swagmen (men who would travel across the Outback) named their bedroll pack, leading to the term "Waltzing Mathilda"
You kept saying he wasn’t a good smuggler as well, then never showed any evidence other than the one scene in Solo where he blows up the cargo. In tfa, he hadn’t had the millennium falcon in years, but he had been doing smuggling mission a lot, and that most likely implies that he had to have been a decent pilot.
If he was a good smuggler, he wouldnt be in such troubles with Jabba Hutt and all those people in TFA. He literally dropped cargo just because imperial ship was nearby.
dragonwaz well once you have a bounty on your head from one of the most feared gangster in the galaxy, it's understandable that jobs would be hard to come by out if either fear of angering the Hutt or just not wanting to bother to have the extra risk your runner getting gunned down/caught by a bunch of bounty hunters on top of the already pretty big risks that come with smuggling. I mean although in the movie we only hear that Han jettison the cargo to avoid an Imperial inspection, in Legends we find out that the cargo was partly slaves which Han purposely allowed to escape, kind of cementing the whole "scoundrel with a heart of gold" thing he has going on.
MatPat, I can see where you are going with this. But L3-37 was uploaded into the Falcon for the use of her NAVIGATIONAL SYSTEM (in simple terms, her map), not "auto-piloting".
PattyFuryGaming And even if that were the case, in Legends he’s one of the greatest pilots ever, not to mention he had also flown greatly before he even knew of L3’s existence.
It's a good theory, but you may be giving L3 too much credit. More likely L3 is the navigation assist program. Like the Paper Clip guy from Microsoft Word. If only slightly more useful.
Navigation isn't exactly the same as flight maneuver. Knowing where to go doesn't make you knowledgeable on what kind of flight pattern will work in deadly spacing (ha, get it?). She has parts from an astromech droid, but those are mainly for repairs and warp navigation with light piloting control much like R2D2. Sorry Matt, this one isn't that serious of a gotcha moment.
I haven't and probably will never see the prequel but the original trilogy is all I need to read this character. He gets by more on reputation than skill. I thought it was obvious that his goofy, oblivious, haphazard way of stumbling through things (but luckily pulling through) WAS the definition of his character and what endears his fans to him.
He only dropped the payload because the people on the bikes were attached to it and there would have been no way to get them off it and keep the payload
J3LLYZ People hate him cause he comments alot and just gets likes because he’s very well known. And because sometimes he comments multiple times on one video. ( people also think that he uses bots )
You forgot to mention how C-3PO noted that the Falcon had a strange programming language when they were in the cave. Due to him being a protocol droid, he is likely not proficient in the piloting droid's (aka L3) language.
Zero Alpha I am deadly serious. I can't remember the name of tge series but the plot whent like this. After the original, the emperors back up plan kicks in, where a clone of him muscles his way to rule the remains of the empire. Eventually the crew attempts to take down this guy with Han getting to distract the guy and damn near almost beats the guy. The fight whent like this. Han bursts into the room. Emperor 2.0 uses the force to grab Han. Han jumps out of the way, shooting at Emperor 2.0. Emperor blocks the laser by holding up a pistol with the force and using it as a sheild. Emperor 2.0 proceeds to continue trying to pin Han down while using the pistol as a sheild. He fails again and again as Han continues to evade Emperor 2.0s powers. Towards the end, emperor 2.0 even gets knocked down when Han causes the pistol to blow up in the emperors face. And E2.0 would have lost to Han right there had he not did a desperate force wave thing that filled the whole room leaving to space to move.
I thought L3 was just a navigational droid, SHE DOESN'T CONTROL THE SHIP, she NAVIGATES. Lando can fly it because he probably practiced it, and Rey can fly it because she can do literally everything like the Jedi Mind Trick and lightsaber combat because Disney said so
A few things: 1. I think it kind of makes sense that Han Solo was made general since he has infantry experience, and the actual army (not space fleet) is probably quite small comparatively. 2. I find myself agreeing with a lot of commenters saying that you have to be a decent pilot to pull off those maneuvers still. Even an advanced navigational system can't do anything unless you let it. If you have it set to manual, then the pilot is in control. Otherwise, auto pilot would take over. Makes sense to me. Sorry, Matt. Have to disagree with you on this one.
Okay so he got the description of the movie wrong in the order of events, Rey in force awakens specifically says she’s a pilot, the thread the needle move has not only been done in the millennium falcon (Poe does it in last Jedi while destroying the dreadnought cannons and running from tie fighters), it was also chewy who was piloting on Crait and Rey was the gunner, everybody who has done the thread the needle move has been known at LEAST as a pretty good pilot (lando, Han, chewy, and Rey), Han was also trying to fly away from the mountains but the people on speeder bikes were pulling on the coaxium container pulling Han towards the mountains forcing him to let go of the coaxium, Han was kicked out of flight school because he was a rule breaker not because he was a crappy pilot (it’s a school they wouldn’t kick him completely out they would just make him go back to the basics or something), it also shows Rey and Han controlling the falcon while they were doing the move sometimes. Ok... I THINK I’m done (I feel very strongly about Star Wars and I’m sorry if I make you mad it’s just that Han is one of my fav characters so...).
I think the original movies were pretty clear that most of what Han was saying was bravado. He was talking himself up as this fantastic pilot, but nobody actually believed him. Han's a decent pilot, but he's no master of the craft.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’m surprised anyone actually thought he had some legendary backstory... It seemed pretty clear to me that he always tended to try and talk himself up to impress people. This entire video is misled because MatPat didn’t realize just how often Han is bluffing 🤷🏻♂️
And this is exactly why The Han Solo Trilogy by Ann C. Crispin will forever remain Han's true canonical backstory to me, no matter what Disney has to say about it.
MatPat: *releases any video and even admits that he doesn't believe in every single theory he makes because he makes them for fun* Comment section: yOUr ThEoRIEs ARen'T aLwaYS riGHt Plus how come THIS theory, out of all the other videos he made, is the one that is incorrect? Just because it's a theory doesn't mean it's suddenly wrong.
"This movie is supposed to establish to us why Han has such an amazing reputation as a pilot and a smuggler..." No it doesnt. Point of this movie was showing his past and how he got into thing he is in New Hope. Han thinks he is awesome but he is not. Thats why he has so many problems with so many people and why everyone knows he is a smuggler.
SOURAVxC um actually, anakin is the best known pilot in the galaxy. And the high ground best him so by default the high ground is the best pilot in the universe
the movie was "supposed to" show his personality evolving from a trusting guy into a kind of scoundrelly guy. the movie didn't do crap for the series, and hurt han as a character.
I love how in the beginning he says all the stuff about Han even though that's the whole point of the character he was never a completlely self made person and he cheated on everything this is all well known
Even if it was she’s still not even flying, Han is. As you say she just plots the optimal course for Han to fly. I thought this was pretty obvious in the movie. Tbh to me that completely nullifies the theory, v disappointed this clickbait was churned out.
Mark Caldwell As I understand, that ship is supposedly both very old and a hodgepodge of almost radically different components, not all of which is wiped or replaced regularly. In that case, the operating system would be very wonky, given it's both highly customized and old to various degrees, something C3-PO would not run into a lot.
Just rewatched the scene of the Kessel run. Yes L3 is interfaced with the ship and she is a GPS of sorts she doesnt fly for him. Not only that, Han does crazy manoeuvers before she is even connected. (The drft in the asteroid). He was ok at best sure because he was overconfident and reckless but he found a ship that could keep up with him. Even before L3 giving the exact position out he just knew "left-ish" he says "I see it". He's also better than Lando there
Probably a typo, and then they missed it. Also, he's not the only won writing these theories. Ohhh.. The Federation is a Dictator ship video is bad/There confusing Star fleet for the federation.
Although I will admit that where he placed it in the script makes it sound like Han won the original card game, he never specifically says that. All he says is that Han won the Falcon in a card game. He never says that he won it in the earlier card game.
Ethan Karp Han Solo was a leader on the racing circuit after the rebellion, Han Solo was by far the best pilot in a series of great pilots all while flying an a wing
Honestly, I think they knew. In one of the original trilogy movies (I think it is Episode 5) C3-PO says that the Falcon is basically talking to him. I think that is evidence enough.
2Park1306 I do remember the line about "I'm not sure where your ship learned how to communicate..." but that's just an on-board computer like the control panels R2 plugs into in the first death star, Cloud city and the shield generator door on Endor.