Film Theory: How Much is YOUR SOUL Worth? (Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood) 

Trumbus Wumblehunk and Llama Barley if I remember correctly.

they're WHAT

Travis Willingham and Laura Bailey, they're awesome

Fjord and Jester

I saw a comment saying that travis would go out of the room because he couldn’t bear hearing his wife scream when she voiced lust in agony

OMG THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

Yes .. YES PLZ

Those two mustve spent more monwy than exist in our world

With Phineas and Ferb there is enough theory fodder to create whole channel and sustain it for years.

Guy Nino I THOUGHT OF THE SAME THING BUT THE QUESTION"how rich is phineas and ferb?".

Underrated comment

That only weigth for like 2 extra Kg

@@antoinepolnareff8970 i dont tink clothing would weight 2 kg more like idk(500gr-700gr)

@@coffeecoffee2096 It was a complet Gala dress with his respective bra and briefs. That's a lot more heavy than normal clothes

@@antoinepolnareff8970 oh ok

To be fair, he could barely control god at that point and he was turned into graphite

Yeah, but let’s not forget he’s a 🧚magical boy 🧚

@@Pokreal I like your funny words magic man

@@churchill903 BAHAHA

Ah yes anime logic

Some One lol

Stolen Jokes... get worse each time they are told

I'mBored Hey, why don't you come up with one then :P

Actually, the arm was just the price to attach Al's soul to the armor.

too soon

@@risulomusic maybe she died many times before the series

No one care

roy brown stop acting like a normie

Risulo Risulo She still has to heal those stabs, so souls wasted. And that new number can mean quite a lot and can show that souls contains much more power/energy than Mat’s current calculations.

she was most likely killed and stabbed a lot more than what was shown on screen as well

three, actually, if you count the time mayes hughes daggers her face.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rzmLZ4OHHYk.html He doesnt really know Im doing this anyway it's about hunter x hunter opening with fullmetal alchemist opening melissa. By any chance don't spread dislike? Only send this a couple of times and that is one of the reasons why I stopped watching him, his theories are mostly wrong

"the great roast" That made my day, thank you.

I think the value of a soul would probably be closer to 490 terajoules, to account for that and any other off screen regeneration

And as well the homunculi have been around for centuries, so surely a lot of souls were used up in that time too

Perhaps it's not that the souls themselves are used up, but that their energy is consumed. He might better have said some odd number "souls' worth of energy". I make this distinction because there is the possibility that she's restoring her energy (but not the souls. Or maybe the souls?) through some unknown means. It's been a long time since I've watched the show, but this is my explanation as to why Matpat can make his calculation from one scene. Just one more thing to consider.

@@Yashael341 But You should take into account that a philosopher stone stores the souls as energy, thus, the amount souls and energy are equivalent (because they are the same thing). So, the more energy Lust consumes the more souls she’s using up. We also know that she has to consume those souls to stay alive for that long and to transmute, so the amount of souls Roy would have consumed would’ve been far less than what Mat had calculated, regardless.

Yeah, like just earlier for example he ripped the stone out of her, destroying 1 whole body as well

We can argue equivalency of souls and energy (actually this argument convinced me to rewatch the series, I'm just not to that point yet), but the point still stands that in the intervening years, the homunculi may have "replenished" their energy somehow. I don't think it was ever stated that they only had what was contained in their stones at conception. If so, I'm sure they would've used that all up just living as long as they did. MatPat had to make at least some assumptions here in order to have anything to calculate at all.

That wasn't a limitation of the stone, but a limitation of his human body. The same was likely going to be true of Greed.

Ik this is late but nobody mentioned that each homunculus got a different amount of souls so his calculation of Lust's amount of soul is wrong Lmao

@@Ivhn We actually don't have any confirmation on the number each received and he does mention in the video that he's assuming an equal number based on his own rationale.

@@Merennulli "That means each homunculus contains exactly 1/14th of souls that Father started with." His assumption was that it was divided by 14 for the 7 sins and 7 virtues. He made no assumptions that each 7 sin got the same amount and there is a confirmation with King Bradly, didn't he mention how many souls he had to fight to keep ownership of the body? Also he doesn't count the fact how many times Lust has died beforehand.

@@Sesshomaru474 8:39 "so we can assume-" he directly states that it's an assumption that the vices and virtues are equal and thus each of the 14 divisions are equal. Bradley didn't give a specific number. In Episode 26, Bradley calls them "countless" in the dub and "many" in the sub translations. Quite frankly, there's nothing to go off of one way or another to contradict or support his assumption. We know Father is stronger than Hoenheim since Hoenheim allegedly isn't good at fighting and has deposited an unknown number of philosopher stone souls to make his own circle, we know he had humans sacrificed for other experiments and could have added to his own stone over the years. We know he's been powering alchemy for all of Amestris. We know he created his own body the first time and like Hoenheim, his body hadn't aged before creating the Homunculi. We also don't see him suddenly become greedy when re-absorbing the first Greed. We don't know how many times he or Lust died prior to the series or what the running cost is. There are simply too many unknowns. But the assumptions Matpat made are plainly stated. We know it can't be accurate because of the unknowns, but he worked with what he had to make something he thought would be entertaining. We. All. Know. This. That's the baseline assumption for this, or any other analysis of fiction, that the one speaking can only be as accurate as his assumptions and what the series gives us. And like most fiction, FMA plays fast and loose with the numbers. While it gives an exact number of souls in Hoenheim, every division is an unknown number, every power use is different enough not to give a baseline, and we have no idea how many other incidents they have been through or what their work costs them. A few examples: Sloth dies far more easily but has far more mass and has just spent a long time manually digging a tunnel. Pride is the "most powerful". Pride and Gluttony consume people, potentially adding to their power source. Gluttony was a failed experiment to create an eye of truth that has opened on a few occasions and connects to a void world of blood and ruins. Envy gets his powers back after being defeated through what should be far smaller stones, and survives without a stone because he's different in a vague way. There's no comparing energy use in-universe, so all he can work with is his assumption.

Isn't that what he was doing on war anyway many times?

Aren't those people already dead? Y'know,with the whole "soul sacrifice" thing?

I’m sure the ishfallens do

@@inanjarif1388 In the philosopher's stone? No, not really. Ed's father talked to them and convinced them to help him defeat father. He mentions in the video his father talked to the people inside him.

Well souls not people

Yo angelo

What's poppin my anime Aussie

So no phylacteries?

With spikes don't forget the spikes

in the first Legend of Zelda there were 9 triforce pieces

I knew it was coming and it still hurt

I mean factually MatPat is still correct so idk how to feel ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

They'll call it "uncultured" despite it being the same thing, just in a different language.

hey cmon, we're not that bad. We would've just politely corrected him (Read: gave him millions of articles telling him how manga and comics aren't the same thing)

Pulls out Kirito swords

The Ace Of Spades best comment I've seen this week

The Ace Of Spades here before 500 likes

Comment of the month

The Film Theorists _ go away

The Ace Of Spades 62 cents

lucifer?

No, it's Someone You Don't Know. (/s)

Dang, 654 Terajoules per soul?! And I was at 1st thinking I got the short end of the stick!

Someone You Don't Know 😭😂

zap 4th not yet ;)

for real ;d

I think he means the elements included, not the amount of each lol

finally someone points it out, i was going crazy

Haha the humans in our world and the FMA world are the same. Ed and Al’s breakdown of the components of those bodies are what’s wrong (just like how ppl thought the Sun moved around the earth. Just because it’s the commonly accepted knowledge of the time doesn’t mean it was scientifically accurate to reality)

Same

I miss soul eater, I hope it comes back eventually

@@Sparrow_Bloodhunter amen

@@chrisdenke2914 so I looked it up, the average 13 episode anime costs 2 million dollars to produce. soul eater was a 50 episode series meaning it likely costed 10 million to make. now if they choose to remake it like they did with fullmetal alchemist brotherhood they'd likely have to double it's runtime to fit all the content that is missing from the manga, therefore it would likely cost 20 million dollars to produce a 100 episode remake of soul eater. if you happen to know any millionair weebs maybe try asking them to remake it, unfortunately I only know poor people.

@@Sparrow_Bloodhunter nice math my guy

5th time? Noob.

Ed...ward?

I mean, it's an excellent story, so going over it again isn't even a path that you'd regret. Although I prefer the manga.

How do you watch a 64-episode anime by accident?

AstroLuxray same XD

Thats what i told him

He never listens

Um he did. Remember the first book. (This is a joke)

BlackSlayer - GAMER he did try that it’s just that he was literally out getting the philosopher stone in the dirt Harry Potter book/movie

Maybe he did lose his ears to

Its accent, you cant just expect people that arent native speaker to some language to spell every words right. Thats just wrong, the only thing we can do is teach them the right way, not joking about it. Yeah i know you probably made this comment as a joke but for me this kind of thing is a problem to our community. But hey its just a theory, A FILM THEORY

I'm fully aware of that fact now- a year later- from when this comment was made. I originally made it as a joke. And I agree it is a problem in the anime community.

I imagine that since a person can live ~100 years off of just one soul. The conversion would be the same during periods of time where regeneration / powers aren't being used.

no

Neuroticmancer That will be funny yet terrifying to see.

I'd be terrified

yes yes he is

IF he had internet

Nataliyah Pastel Hey, at least you have one!

Nataliyah Pastel finally something I can afford

Endershock1678 unlike me

A whole 2 cents huh?

bought and i give you a pidgey pokémon card for it too!

...does that mean you watched Brotherhood by now? Because it's amazing

@@clouddd8053 yes, and it easily ranks in my top three anime of all time

@@itachiswill5263 thats good news! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😃

😰

At least a pseudo philosophers Stone..

you WHAT

Good luck finding that Uranium lol

Alex Odom The only thing that changes is that his calculations only result in the MINIMUM amount of energy, which still isn’t a bad baseline to calculate

Plus if it’s adding mass would her stabby fingers use up souls?

That would barely add up to anything

If that was true, it would actually increase the power of souls, by lowering the amount used up to do the same task, meaning there would be more power per soul in that case.

She did die a couple times before mustang killed her

Vainquisher Exactly... I stopped watching from there onwards. Plus Father is still making Philosophers Stones, so it's hard to get the actual number of souls

Yup, I thought of this also. Not a bad idea to try to calculate but not very accurate in execution.

I was thinking this too :/

Vainquisher thank you

All so you have to take in count that before Mustang showed it Riza was shooting Lust over and over again until she ran out of ammo.

Nina's is not as bad as Maes Hughes' in my opinion

This is me but the 2003 version of Lust

never talk about Nina, that's the 1st rule of the Elric brothers

N I N A 1 0 0

Harddiskfail they have pumpkin spice bleach now

Ha...ha..ha..

god damn it barb

nice

Harddiskfail disappointed ™

Seriously, wtf was that for? Lust is busty, or, at least she sports a cleavage. Big fucking whoop! Focusing on her breasts doesn't prove anything about her weight. And for the people who call it "a joke", seriously? You've ever heard anything more failed to produce laughter than this stinker? He just done fucked up yet again.

hopefully mustang didn't see this or mat would be dead man

WilbaForce0017 what? She's not a child! Wtf are you talking about?

Hey she's hot.

Hey! Lust having a generous figure is an objective fact stated for the record! It doesn't mean perversion is what's happening here!

William Xu I don’t want to get into THAT debate but you could count the unborn

My exact fucking thought

Actually there were because of hohemheim being an extra one

@@matthewrandall2767 hohemheim doesn't count

@@danilomoreira1648 if you are talking about people in Xerxes,yes he is to be counted but if you only talk about the people in the STONE then he doesn't have to be counted

How do you get 3.5 dislikes???? Does someone have to half dislike?????

@@samd2612 he meant 3.5k dislikes

@@jaydon__bmore0717 who is k

@@samd2612 k is used to represent "Thousand"

Dicerson Almost. The souls are still living inside Von Hoenhime. He has conversations with them. Just before he brags to Father about how he learned the names of each and every one of them, he lists off about 7 names and then details what they did in life. A flourish, a son wanting to take over the family business, etc... However, the you are right in saying he isn't maintaining a "relationship" with them. It would be more like a king who knows the name of all of his subjects. He would know who they are and what they do, but could move on to learn about someone else. He isn't inviting them to dinner or anything, its just intell gathering from disembodied conciousnesses.

Accurate or not. I couldn't imagine memorizing over 100,000 names. Heck I can barley remember the names of everyone at my work place.

Dicerson 536,000 is a number never even counted to by a human, it's not possible to remember that many NAMES

Dicerson as Matt said, there's a limit to what a human mind can do.

but for every name he must remember he has a extra soul of power

_WolfSquad _ Mr. K would have taken a nickel if that was all the Flying Dutchman had.

My soul is priceless, my soul has no value

Sooo, can I have it then? I'd like to have a spare to charge my DS with...

Nolan Bell so it’s free? 😏

PhantomOfLegend do you think he could’ve gotten more?

Yeah agreed. There's no way she never had to regenerate before this, she's definitely used some power over the centuries.

i would guess that she already used around 2/5th of her stone before last fight.

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say.

Not to mention it's implied some got WAY more souls than others! It's implied Sloth got hardly any, and he dies after much less damage than any other, where as Pride, Gluttony, and Envy all got a lot more souls transmuted into them in the name of his "experiments".

i was just about to say that, good call out man.

I actually punched my computer when I saw your image, that's strangely reallistic

Tomas Roque i was thinking about that. And she use the stone to activate her claws too. The estimative of the video stand for a minimum energy.

Tomas Roque also the fact that we actually witnessed Hughes get a headshot on Lust with a knife. Though it wasn't a confirmed "kill", she looked pretty dead to me before she revived.

A headshot with a knife is, at least with MatPats calculations, way easier to repair than half a body. Not saying anything against that she probably has died more than seven times, just that the amount of damage done to the body is important for the calculation based on mass, not the death itself. Even damage done by aging could be more expensive to repair over the span of multiple years than a simple knife to the head.

I'm not sure that the stone's have a fixed amount of energy either. I always assumed that they got overloaded by having to repeatedly regenerate in a short time, because there is a scene where gluttony uses up all his regeneration but survives, and later in the show has regeneration again. You could say father just gave him more souls, but that would also be assuming.

I thought the exact same thing like dude...

THE WORD “MANGA” LITERALLY MEANS “COMIC” IN ENGLISH PEOPLE. LOOK IT UP.

Yes. (Sigh) Yes he did.

manga = comics but in japanese

that's cruel but it's facts....the truth hurts.

I hate how much i loved that

*I'm crying from laughter and sadness*

666melodeath666 .... ._.

Big brother Ed.

This my friends is why in america the first harry potter book is the sorcerer's stone not philosopher's stone no offence. :)

Oof

Also #DDM the communism theme is playing in my head when I were my ushanka hat

well they are all equal. equally put into a stone to be used as a battery.

no reason, some people are short. probably genetics. and ya automail plays and important role. also I've heard working out very early as a teen will reduce your growth not sure about the scientific accuracy. fighting in army probably is the reason.

You mean about tree fiddy?

Now what tax do you pay? Does it depend on where you live or the tax in hell?

Is that usd?

Ya that's what game stop says those dumbasses

About 10 kishin souls and a tenth of a witch's soul.

Timeturner Probably intentional.

Timeturner *TRIGGERED*

Lets just ignore the fact that Comic and Manga mean the exact same fucking thing just localized in different regions, the fact people are actually getting this pissy over a word that is equal to what they are arguing agaisnt is baffeling, mat here MORE than likely just use the word comic as to not explain what manga is

google translate manga please

Timeturner mat pat will die for this anime hersy

Yes to true!

yes

SORCERER'S stone, you British fuck.

The Lamer Gamer its in your name your lame

Close up it’s a scam no du but why did you say howdy

Burn.

lisquidsnake OOOOOOO SHEET

When she destroyed boruto when they were kids feelsbad

I still can't get over that name....

Man, it's dark outside, but even I can see all this shade being cast about.

How could he do that??

I didn't see this but I commented the same thing

He's calculated the energy needed to regenerate her whole body, even so, he forgot the time Mustang ripped the stone out of her chest and she regenerated around it, so instead of dividing by 9 it should have been 10

@@andy54668 by taking into account her age (between 200 and 400 years) , the "recycle rate" of our body (how long it takes for your body to fully "shed" (dead cells etc.) which is about 5 years if i remember correctly, meaning that every atom in your body gets replaced within five years except for those in teeth and some neurons etc.) so you can find how many times she had to "regenerate" her body to live past a normal human life expectancy , even if it was atom by atom rather than the full regenerative thing when she gets burned .

@@Foxintoxthx but u didn't have to define recycle rate. I'm not that stupid.

Endershock1678 Same...

Good one.

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I ate mine, it was half sweet half spicy.

so many gingers in this thread

But he did kind of learn about each person, hence why he talks about the kid who wanted to be an academic, the builder and his son and their relationship, the guy who was fired from the restaurant for feeding a poor man who couldn't pay. Hoenheim learned about each person trapped within him and it was more than just their names

@@RMills646 I don't think logic applies to a 500 year old immortal man lol

well lets not BE hateful, we're just the ones trying to avoid it.

It's been awhile, plus he's been doing more dc and marvel then anime. So I won't be salty. 😜

SuperKamiGuru If only he said Manwha

isnt it though

SuperKamiGuru oh no the *"HORROR!"*

Technically, father is not really that evil. We see in the end that he just desired supreme knowledge

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I’d argue he just got ride of everyone else’s evil, which they rudely foisted upon him the day he devoured all their souls like tic tacs. He still had plenty of his own. After all - he ate all those souls like so many chocolate bars all on his own.

I would be interested in that!

A rough answer to your question is 15m (49ft) wingspan for a small 300kg (660 lbs) elephant, but the actual answer would include how fast Dumbo can take off and fly, so it would be between 0m (0ft) and 25m (82ft)

CRIMAFUYT You're not MatPat. Only MatPat does science here. Come back when you're MatPat.

THANK YOUU been waiting for someone to say this.

i just call them Japanese comics

I call tgem right left weeb dictionaries

Typical Profile okay not gonna lie i laughed

MANGA ARE COMICS. Manga just is the Japanese term for comic

i feel the same way! how are you doing 4 years later?

.........well shit

That and all the time she was alive.

So, since cells in our body replace themselves entirely every 4 days to 1 year ( 8 year for fat, which she didnt obviously have that much ;) ), we can assume that she replaced herself every 6 months. That makes up about 500 COMPLETE regenerations throughout her lifespan. So it didnt took 9 bodies for the souls to be burnt, but 509!

And that asssumes that untill she met Mustang noone has ever injured her before, or each of these regenerations would have to be accounted for too.

But one can assume that they didn't use souls to stay alive by "regenerating" dead cells spending soul energy but just by physiological processes like eating, breathing, etc. So they would only need to spend one soul per average lifespan of their respective available ones. That would account for 3 to 5 souls throughout her 250 years lifetime

Kinda

as a no life minecraft player its pretty hard to remember every player name ( i know about 50,000 player names that are 16 characters long containing letters and numbers and theoretically i met 150,000 players indirectly or directly ) but i would still say its possible as long as you spent a minimum of 5 hours for each person

Actually he probably learned there name convinced the should to help him and than moved on to the next one there is no memorization involved.

He's has like 400 years to talk to them.

TheStrangeFishlikeEntity he said he made relationships whith them if you watched the anime ,they are the ones who help him to beat father

AJ GAMING he is an adult not a kid though

lol 4 times

only twice? those are rookie numbers

true true

0 times😸😝

9 times nd manga 4 times

u wont

Axel paxel or KH3

they confirmed it is dead, rip

Maybe you'd long long enough to make a better joke

half life 3 is dead. Dota 2 is far more important and superior

Tanner Tolman Asuuming that she lived for 400 years, and assuming she didn't eat, For the lifespan assuming the fma world is in the 1900 because of the lights then 400 years ago would be 1500. Then the average lifespan would be about 60 years. She has lived 6.66 souls You lose about 5 pounds a week water fasting so add a few more pounds because of no water and to 8 pounds. 1 year = 52 weeks 400x52=20800 weeks 20800x8= 166400 pounds Since E=mc2 that equals 24920064x10 to the 20th power of joules That's 2492006400000000 terajoules of energy That number divided by 654 is 3,810,407,339,449 souls. So she should of died a long time ago if she didn't eat cause she only has about 38,000 souls. But that's assuming that she didn't eat. And I'm an eight grader who is drinking Gatorade at 1 am on a weekend so most of this is probably wrong because I didn't check.

How many souls would she have burned if she did eat?

Whitney Tolman 6.66 souls

Also, didnt lust died from hydrogen explosion before Mustang started roasting her?

That and Mustang ripped the stone out of her forcing her to regenerate her entire body.

Yandere Alchemist or the knife wound to the head caused by Hughes?

Yandere Alchemist Don't forget when she had to regenerate her ENTIRE body after Mustang tore her Stone out AFTER said explosion. And also when she got shot by Hawkeye, when Marcoh impaled her with a giant spike, Hughes throwing a knife in her head, and when she got shot in the leg and tore open her chest to show off her stone.

Gotta agree even mustang recognized the smell of burned bodies and totally forgot the knife to the knife to head lust recieved from hughes

that's possible

I thought, considering her behavior, she has probably been critically wounded other times outside this story

Lazy Ninja matweeb or Anipat

Lazy Ninja why not fullmetal pat instead

funny thing is, i just finished the series a few minutes ago

READY STEADY CAN'T HOLD ME BACK READY STEADY GIVE ME GOOD LUCK READY STEADY NEVER LOOK BACK LET'S GET STARTED READY STEADY GO

He's a full metal theorist indeed . secretly working with alchemy and metal as we speak .. All in the name of theories and replacing fleshy meat limbs

Katgamer 66 wow that much, mines worth like 6p

The Film Theorists _ Hmm

Katgamer 66 More like $3.17

They give me 2 in gamestop

Mine is more like £-6,45

They jokingly keep track of how many times each of their characters have killed each other and bring up who's "ahead" at conventions. lol

a truly deadly power couple.

Well they so have experience in rl

Laura and Travis are the best duo honestly XD I watch them play dnd weekly XD

P

Keno Badogomba mine is 0.00000000001 dollars

Are you perchance a ginger?

XD This is too good.

Mom! Get the holy water!

The thing that makes a living person different than a corpse

Isn't this a film theory, not a manga theory though? He also says that he's going by Brotherhood, instead of that... other one, and doesn't use the manga for any part of his theory. Though others have pointed out the internal flaw with using Lust for his theory.

TheUndeclaredWinner Didn't Hughes kill (or damage) her with one of his ninja knives? And I remember Hawkeye shooting her a couple of times before Roy shows up :)

That just means one human soul is even more powerful!!! :D

TheUndeclaredWinner if you're using brotherhood than you are using the manga.

Why didn't he use the Doctor Marcoh scene in the anime where he did experiment with his scientist to make the philosopher stone. Itll be much much better than using Lust death as it's waay too inconsistent

Kevin Pereira exactly what I was thinking envy is so dense because of his actually size condensed into the size of a 15 year old boy and you can't get an accurate reading of how much power a human soul has when you can't understand the power alchemy has or its affects it's all theoretical

Kevin Pereira and it pisses me off

Hmm well can't envy absorb the souls and mass of different living beings? His true form is that of a slug, but if he kept absorbing other bodies, he should have more mass and energy than the other homunculus. He did that during the end of the series, where he went around and absorbed the white homunculus to recharge his stone. I believe he also tried to do this to Ed and Ling, when they were eaten by gluttony.

SinerAthin These prostitute spam bots are even darker than that

SinerAthin and more darker than that is warhammer 40k

That suffering lasted for only a limited time though, unlike the eternal damnation of the souls. I mean, ask yourself this Would you rather die 60 times over in various gruesome ways? Or die once, but have your soul consigned to suffer eternally in a never ending agony past the universe's end?

SinerAthin And then there's Negan

SinerAthin I