Film Theory: Someone PLEASE Help Elmo! (Sesame Street) 

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​@@gabef.218 sounds like he Rick rolled you there lolol

Yup

@@c-e.dbackupdates501 how tho?

@@c-e.dbackupdates501 Where does gender come in to play. You do realize boys do the same thing.

He better. Even better if he admits he didn't say half the stuff Zoey claimed.

God I hope that happens

Lol I hope that happens and Elmo was like revenge

rocco voiced by danny devito

@@gaycoffeeaddict yes

Did you know USB Powered Pet Rocks are a thing? Wack right?

@@MotorcycleCheetah Man, and i thought having a blue-eyed, app enabled Teddy Ruxpin was odd. (I'm a Ruxpin purist. He is supposed to have BROWN eyes, people!)

​@@LadyOnikaraI want him.

I remember how pet rocks were a fad in the 1970s. I still don't understand why people went nuts for them! It's the dumbest thing ever!

Elmo's voice takes me back in time as a child.

I ruined the likes being at 666

Don't say anything about the bots, just report them.

@@WFly101 thanks

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well, that’s…That’s hella dark

@@Pip_NoSqueak Exactly! Like wtf Zoe??

I hadn't heard about this before until now and it hurts.

and thats what you call a prick move

One day he'll throw a huge tantrum worse than Zoe ever has and we'll be there watching!

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bots are growing oh yea elmo deserves better

Why are there so many bots dude

I relate.

Fr, Zoe reminds me of all the kids that I've seen that throw a "tantrum" over not getting the toy or candy they want. Because they know that if the scream or cry enough it'll get them what they want anyways.

THIS

Zoe reminds me of a certain group of people that constantly use their imaginary deity to control other peoples personal and private lives. Whether it be who they can love, when they can show their love, or even to how they can show their love. About time someone called out Zoe and her enablers, good job. Peace/JT

Bro i relate to Elmo in a personal level, he’s my favorite and memorable character, when i watched smth with Zoe, i have this itch of disliking her even tho idk why

@@artistotaku8344 This remind me of myself. My mom told me that when I made a tantrum and basically cry, she would ignore me. And after seeing this video, I'm grateful for what she did

Wow

We should publicly shame your evil teachers and bullies

Yea...true

Which is ironic, since Snuffy was made real in the show so kids could learn they would be believed if they tell the truth

they're 3

Oh Rocco did come back. Zoey set up a whole wedding for Rocco and another rock and then forced Elmo to stay and solve all her problems. I wouldn’t be too surprised if Rocco returns with “children” and Zoey forces Elmo to babysit them for a whole episode.

I was thinking the same thing. I just feel Zoe and Elmo always have beef.

Imagine if someone on Reddit made a am I the jerk post where it’s just Elmo asking is he the jerk for not liking roco and bringing up all the bad things Zoe’s done

Bing I own it is all I remember

I made a cartoon where Elmo runs over Zoe in a car. she got what she deserves.

I remembered that movie while watching this and feel the same way.

That's some theory material

That makes sense considering the fact that Elmo's "house" is made out of doodles

Yeah I think you have an idea for a new film theory for matpat.

And maybe Mr.Noodle and Mr.Noodles brother are neighbors that play along with him or imaginary friends

That actually makes sense, hopefully he'll make a theory on this...

he insulted toothpicky...no-one. insults. toothpicky

@@whodvethunk6525 lol

Dan does deserve a raise for that skit.

Futurama?

@@whodvethunk6525 yhjiuy

Four bots

So many

"Elmo knows where you live" 🙂

It’s just like In real life with school. I know some people in school who aren’t liked and sort of “shamed” when their emotions get the better of them, and I am one of the only people who are their friends. It sucks to see the people I am good friend with get into arguments 7-1

😅

i remember that scene and was really sad because i've seen that irl growing up and it hurt.

@@gabsterart I've literally had that happen to me.

r/fuckzoey

Once when I made food with my friend and my friend’s little sister was the most ANNOYING kid I have EVER MET

@@susanmarr6251 remove the sister

Poor Elmo. Looking back on it now, he really was treated unfairly

@CheeseBiscuits Well, we still see Zoe on Sesame Street, just not as much these days.

same! my sister loved elmo in grouchland but i hated it bc of how zoe treated elmo (and bc i found grouchland scary but that’s not the point)

Abby is so much better anyway

@@tysargent9647 that's good because Zoe is just Sakura second and 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 tiimesssssssss wooooorsssstees

This is why I hate most parents. they don't do a good job and I don't think they even try.

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Yeah, kind of like what Sav and Cole are doing to Everleigh.

@Lilyva The messed up part is that Elmo and Zoe are the same age.

I DESPISE the show Max and Ruby for a similar reason. It's literally just a show about two neglected children whose parents are never around where the older sister is actively parentified despite her being like canonically around 8 I think?

Better yet throw Rocco into a lake

facts

Well it's a kid show so I don't think I see that happening

I think they should get rid of rocko

I hate Rocco he's just a Rock 🪨🪨🪨🪨🪨🪨🪨

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@@loturzelrestaurant lol, if you go into Mark's comments you will usually find bots saying "Markiplier is garbage, MY channel is way better" or something like that.

I’m mean can you blame him? Even I would side with him about it being what it is a “rock” if get a bit upset If I had group of friends and the one of them pulls out a rock to decide what to for fun as if “it’s” part of the group it’ll be crazy to think but some kids can’t understand especially when One acts a certain way to get what they want

Yes! Makes you wonder how and why she became like this. Also, Zoe acts a lot like my own lil sister does. And she wonders why I don't talk to her anymore? If only the people around them grew wise and stood up. This is what happens when those people decide to turn a blind eye to who is clearly a troubled child, the child, if not receiving help, will grow into a manipulative, gas lighting sociopath. And then they wonder what went wrong as if they had nothing to do with it?! I'm sorry, it just hurts a lot.

its a funny tv show tho

Rocco will pay for it. He is secretly a diamond under a thin layer of stone.

Why is "A Rock" and "Imaginary Friend" capitalized? I feel like that's unnecessary.

It's on the same scale as the dude that married a DS and streamed the whole event

I hate bots

Some things, as a child or an adult, are just not things you share, because they mean so much to you, or because of the situation. Parents need to understand the difference between when they *can* tell their child to share, and when they really shouldn't. It is the *worst* when you're young, and you have a toy you cherish, and some kid with dirty hands wants to play for it and your parents force you to share it. That happened to me once, I had to throw it away after :/ I never got a replacement for it.

What’s worse is that he DID share! He was hesitant, sure, but he eventually gave in and let Zoe hold it to help her calm down! It was ZOE who abused that kindness and refused to return it when asked and on top of that, she FIGHTS Elmo for it and RIPS IT. But when Elmo snapped at her for damaging the one item he deemed more important than anything, HE’S the bad guy for “not sharing”?! And ZOE’S the victim because he snapped at her DESPITE HIM LITERALLY HAVING EVERY RIGHT TO DO SO?! Honestly, Elmo and Zoe’s “friendship” nowadays is a perfect encapsulation of society when it comes to male victims. No matter WHAT Zoe, the female, does, ELMO, the male, is treated as the lesser when things go south even if HE’S the one that was wronged! The adults completely IGNORE HIM and COMFORT HER EVEN THOUGH HER ACTIONS ARE COMPLETELY REPREHENSIBLE! Elmo, the male, is never the victim in the eyes of the society that is Sesame Street, even if he actually IS the victim!

i agree

I KNOW! And she didn't even say sorry!

@@CharizardFlame dude chill it, it's just a kid's show Then again your absolutely right

let me guess you re the middle child

the sad part is, it even happens in the Workplace, as well as 'family' situations...one of my coworkers is absolutely Terrible at her job-- complaints from customers, unfinished tasks, the whole nine yards...but if you Call Her Out on it, suddenly YOURE the bad guy, "insulting her character" or whatever...so most of the time, its just Easier to just wait until her shift ends, to Finally catch up on all the stuff i need to do... (and for the record, were a little too short-staffed to Fire her, otherwise she wouldve been gone MONTHS ago)

Can relate to this as the older child

It's almost as if a single set of parents isn't capable of raising a horde of children that outnumber them. And I say that knowing well that SOME people are patient and hard-working enough to have 3 or 4 well-raised children, but the average person just isn't prepared for parenthood

Same my brother was always the one to throw temper tantrums when he didn’t get what he wanted, so my parents always tried to make him happy. My sister and I were more mature, and were left without the same special treatment, which was very frustrating at times.

Don't say it. His name alone makes me want to break something

@@gammarayburst675 ｡

@@likelyunfortunatezz5730 yeah that's me? What's up?

given this is a kid's show that's probably what it actually is

oh how I hate the youngest child stereotype

Which would explain Mr. Noodle, the only adult that ever validated his needs! But only in Elmo's isolated world!

So omori is just a retelling of sesame street? Of course! That explains everything!

Hence why Mr. Noodle is the best character

@@runedoom Not everything is related to eachother y'know? I get that it's a joke but it's in my opinion so annoying when something gets brought up that has nothing to do with the topic.

@@-Skidisme.Iamskid- it’s just a coke, you don’t need to feel so annoyed about it

basically how every film theory goes lol

@@naomiadeyemi3602 Not really, most go full wacky halfway

Yeah.

Yaa

@Robert Anderson The thing is you actually need to be harder on special needs kid EXCEPT if they are so special they can't function but Zoe isn't like that, she functions just fine. With functional special needs you need to be harder because its harder to keep them in check. I don't mean be rude or anything of the sort but you must always make sure to tell them what they did wrong and give a punishment and since she is 3 the best punishment can be no sweets. Eventually they learn "Hey if I act this way, I can't have sweets"

he might have. Elmo's World suddenly makes a lot more sense for existing now. The perfect safe space in a kid's mind and room

@@adamgremban8780 This! I experienced something similar as a child, and the way I coped was to disassociate and retreat into my mind, into a better place where my traumas and those who intentionally caused it or not weren't there. It's the only way I haven't gone insane yet.

True that

@@bakedbaker9882 i hope you get better

Look out mr. Patty I might be making a puppet TV show too😉

Yeah, 100%. I clicked on the video with a very clear picture in my mind and this just supported it lol. Zoe was a horribly abusive and controlling girlfriend, and Abby is far better for elmo.

You mean to tell me that we’re sending wrong messages to todays children? It’s 2022, morality is an abstract concept in the US. Gaslighting is only wrong if the hivemind thinks it’s wrong, and the hivemind doesn’t think it’s wrong so tough luck, I guess.

i think it works super well because it actually discusses the meta of the situation- what was going through the writers heads behind the scenes. i feel like film theory in the past has had a habit of using the thermian argument which makes some theories seem like reaches. but this one makes perfect sense because it acknowledges the series as a creative work with a team of writers behind it. like even early on the idea of zoe just being somekind of "evil abuser" or whatever was talked about, but dismissed because youre not meant to engage with the material on that level and its simply too face-value of a conclusion. it makes much more sense to look at the choices that lead the writers there and what the moral they would be imparting to children would be, because its a kids show after all.

I literally was saying this to myself and saw this comment lol

You're absolutely right, in fact modern child psychologists say exactly that

That synopsis reads like an episode of Thomas And Friends

yea

Lesson*

I get the seriousness of the topic but in an attempt to lighten the mood, Remember that elmo is at least 20+ years and needs to stop acting like a 5 year old.

It is.

“Days of Our Lives” has almost 14,000

It is for Sesame Street, haha

@@howdoyouspace5425 Marlena done been hypnotized and kidnapped 20 times since I've been born lmao

Doesn’t One Piece have a thousand episodes?

It was his blanket. At least in that situation she actually felt bad later. I still have that movie and now feel like watching it.

That's insane I am so glad I stopped watching. Stuff like this never happened on Barney

I came here to bring this up! Elmo in Grouchland was my kid's favorite. Zoey was a little jerk there, too! I remember even explaining the movie to my kid, how it's totally okay to tell your friend no when they want your special item. Elmo even offered Zoey a soft washrag to cuddle with instead of blankie. And she ripped his blankie out of his hands.

I think there was a movie where Zoie made Elmo rip his blanket actually. She wanted to see it so bad, but Elmo said no so she tried to pull it from him and ut ripped. Then Elmo went on an adventure cuz the blanket somehow got lost.

@@medusathedecepticon I wish I had the movie. I used to watch it all the time.

You kinda made a spelling mistake

​@@pudgesnextturnaround3112Its Just very sad for elmo

Yes

You are Elmo aren’t you?

It's... it's... disgraceful! Disgusting! And depicable!

This would work if you said anything BECAUSE ROCCO ISNT A PERSON, IT'S A THING, A ROCK

@@magdakozakiewicz304 and rocks are used to make cement but rocko would be better as target practice for AMSR (Anti Material Sniper Rifle)

Who else read that in elmos voice and dialect?

@@magdakozakiewicz304 fixed, thanks

@@meggubravo8373 HAHAHA it's even funnier now

You can say DW nobodys judging.

@@alexiayearty8105 Ugh, Arthur is like a free babysitter to her and Kate

@@sophiebyers5496 Yup, thatll get brought up in therapy later.

DW MUCH

@@alexiayearty8105 DANGIT I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MENTION HER!

This is what I've wanted to type but didn't know how. I really hope that later in the show a responsible adult finally steps in and confronts the others, teaching children important lessons. Zoey honestly was my least favorite character in the entire show, even when I was little cause I hated when she would always interrupt Elmo. Elmo is still my favorite character and I hope Zoey and the other adults get humbled or taught a lesson at some point.

Nice thesis bro 👌

I’m surprised at how many of you grew up with Sesame Street. When I was younger I just watched a bunch of different VCR and CD’s in my room while my family would watch the news or game shows in the living room. I had A LOT of Elmo’s World VCR’s It took up a whole shelf out of the Wiggles, Whinnie the Pooh and Disney movie VCR’s. And CD’s.

He's being gaslit

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I don't think you should hate Zoe. Ultimately like Matpat says she is just a child and as someone who's had to deal with toddlers, this is how some of them behave. Kids are incredibly selfish, in fact almost everyone has probably thrown a tantrum or cried over not getting what they want as a child. The blame falls on the adults for not correcting that behaviour because the kids don't know what they're doing is wrong. Almost every child put in Zoe's position would act like Zoe, even you or me.

@@nutellacelery8830 I don’t like kids in general-

@@alittlekittycat21 Yeah, but even if you don't like them you can recognize that shitty kids only exists due to shitty adults.

@@alittlekittycat21 So you hate yourself huh i get ya i have some reccomendation for therapist if you need ;) im here for you

yes

Elmo: you know what Zoey? Elmo is tired, Elmo doesn't like Rocco. And because, because you never let Elmo have my fun. Then you are not my friend, goodbye Zoey. Zoey: uh-huh, uh-huh, Rocco says- Elmo: STOP LYING ZOEY! ITS NOT FUNNY! YOU are the one that says things! Never Rocco, because ROCCO is a ROCK! And if you want to be my friend, then leave.

@@fyrelorde unfortunately that is not going to happen in that way because Sesame street is still a children show unless their willing to retire Zoey- which honestly they can do because her characrer is generic girl and there are thousands of those in show- the rocco problem is not going to have a satisfying conclusion

Would be even better if it just ends with elmo throwing rocco, never to be seen again

It technically already happened... Notice that Elmo now hangs out with Abby and Zoe is really no longer in the picture

@@silverblaze8766 So the message to send to kids is that gaslighting and abusing genuinely good people is acceptable and inevitable? What you're saying makes absolutely zero sense especially considering that they have indeed had satisfying resolutions to ongoing abuse with Big Bird/Snuffleupagus. The fact that Sesame Street is a children's show makes it even more important for there to be justice for Elmo.

I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned! It was just plain cruel 😢

I bloody love that movie

Meanwhile, Elmo learned a lesson about how you should share your things.

As a child you learn "Share things, be nice, say sorry if someone feels bad because of you." As an adult/teenager you learn; "Stand up for yourself, learn to say no, don't try to please everyone/you can't please everyone." Parents, can y'all please teach these lessons AT THE SAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh oh how unfortunate uh oh how unfortunate

​@@brycenwolfe499that DeeDee not balloon boy

Rocco wants to speak to the manager

​@@thomasfoster4370ill introduce rocco to the manager. rocco, meet mr. jackhammer.

Poor Elmo I get how he feels being pushed to the side when someone else is being favored while that person treats you like crap is so annoying and depressing.

That will be insane

Thank God she is still 3

Absolutely, people keep blaming Elmo People seem to hate the person who is the way they are because of what those people have done to them

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could there be a sexist reason? The adults we see here are all female. Could it be they unintentionally treat the little girl better, because they see themselves in Zoey?

@@mii_kay4514 Elmo thinks that he agrees

@@mii_kay4514 It's the writing. Next she will be flying in from off screen and healing someone with her power

I haven’t watched Sesame Street in YEARS and I wanted to cry for Elmo just seeing those clips! When MatPat started by try to make us what mins of picture is being painted on the surface, it just didn’t sit right with me. Like, I remember Elmo talking to Dorothy and laughing at Mr. Noodle’s antics, singing a song, sprinting random babies to teleport to, just being lovable and cuddly. It felt weird seeing him angry. At least MatPat sees what’s going on. Hopefully someone at Sesame Street miraculously sees his video and has a good long think about Zoey and Rocco.

EXACTLY HOW I FEEL FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS ME AND ELMO!!!

Yeah I never liked Zoe either. Now I know why.

Even as the oldest literally everyone but me gets what they want and I get left out

This is why I am glad I am an only child and I will make sure that if I ever have kids, I will only have one kid (unless I get twins or something)

Same ngl

Same!!!

wait a minute Zoey is the golden child the one who could do no wrong so toxic

Me too but this time it's my older brother

Me to its my 7 year old brother

IIRC, Elmo actually ends up apologizing to Zoe in the movie too! But Elmo was in the right here I thought, he didn't want to share his blanket, but Zoe was super insistent... Like, girl, Elmo has shared many things with you, he does not have to share his very special and sentient blanket.

I'm glad you were able to mend things. Screw off bots.

It's a metaphor for

@@aceorb1996 I think Elmo feels more guilty for yelling at Zoe and saying that she is not his friend

My parents would keep me home for school to feed all the animals on the family smallholding. I had to bottle feed 3 lambs at once (one bottle in each hand and the 3rd one gripped between my knees), 300 pigs, then let 40 hens & 2 cockerels out of the henhouses and feed them, put the lambs into their secure grazing area and finally collect any eggs from the henhouses. This would happen when my mum was ill, she had migraines, and I started doing that when I was only 12 years old. They would tell people that my sister's education was more important than mine so she very rarely had to stay home, she is just over a year older than me, then they wondered why I rebelled against them as much as I could. They also used to say they had me to keep my sister company as there's a 5 year gap between her and the next eldest sister, then roughly a year between that one and my eldest sister. Their plan backfired as we don't get on as she's still the 'golden child'. They say it's because my brother (their 1st born and only son) died at 13 months old, the next 2 were girls so when the 3rd girl was born dad didn't even look at her for 6 weeks. They've been 'making up for it' since and treating me differently. Us girls organised a party for them about 20 years ago and in his speech he said, roughly, "I'd like to thank 'eldest sister', 'next one down' and '3rd one' for organising this fantastic surprise party". Guess who he left out? Yep, he had to be reminded I was even there. I nearly walked out but my children were having a good time playing with their cousins, but I've never forgotten or forgiven especially as they caused something even worse in my life 31 years ago. Sorry for the rant but this is the 1st time I've even written this stuff down, let alone where strangers can read it.

That makes me happy for Elmo and all the kids watching. They get to see the different relationships and learn what works better/is healthier

This is why Elmo is best friends with Abby Cadabby nowadays. He's also friends with Cookie Monster, Big Bird, Snuffy, Telly, Baby Bear, and Grover.

Oh good, thank you for letting us know this!

Good for him

ok

Ah, so she basically D.W. from Arthur.

My name is Zoey!!!😭😭😭

@@nope0921 my name is Zoe, i have it one letter worse. *cri*

I totally agree with you

No matter how much anyone tried, they can’t get me on her side. I often feel like my family loves our a**hole dog more than me, and I’m absolutely going against someone making anybody feel like that. Elmo deserves better.

The shows got a lot of mature topics that play off quite well in a kids show, even to the point of characters DYING. (Rest in peace Mr. Hooper) that show can get DARK man

Luckly I had parents who didn’t had favoritism, but a lot of the other adult in childhood did. A lot of my teacher favored my bullies because they claim I was always lying. 9 years later it was found I was born with schizophrenia. Thanks Dr. C, for breaking a tween heart, Especially after a family death. So glad to have my current circle of friends and family. But some adult still don’t care.

It's crazy that a theory video about Elmo and a rock is making me think about what neglect can do. It's made me reflect on relationships I've experienced where my feelings have been so invalidated.. I really hope that the writers have the awareness to validate Elmo's emotions and acknowledge the trauma this can cause if not addressed.

Caillou, Caillou

it's just a rock🤨

thats actually really good idea

Same, except I watched Furchester hotel. Elmo has a lot of attention elsewhere, so it's not really surprising.

A FILM THEORY!!! Thanks for commenting...

Have you ever noticed how Elmo’s world looks fake? I mean in the intro you see him in a real room and then “Elmos world” seems to just spawn. Maybe that’s because it is fake, maybe it’s his brain trying to forget about the toxic environment and people around him… But that’s probably just a stretch

@@-YourLocalCryBaby- A FILM STRETCH! AAAND CUT!

For real

Facts man ... 100% Heck just look at society itself.

It would be cool if the adults pull Zoe aside one day and actually have a philosophical discussion and explore why Zoe feels she needs an imaginary friend. Most of the time children come up with or create those types of fantasy in response to some form of trauma.

Fr

For sure!

I suppose that the Rocco series was more of a lesson for the parents watching with their children on what can happen when you let a kid do manipulative things so as to not cause a scene than it was a lesson for the children watching.

@@user-en7dx1qp3k I would agree if they ever called out Zoe but they never did

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That's Y she lost me 😎👌💪💯💞

He has spoken 👍

​@@WILDWINTER_BIRD are you trying to say that just because it is a kids show means it can't have more serious or darker elements or are you trying to say something else I could really use some elaboration.​

@@WILDWINTER_BIRD "children's media should always be written for the adults first." -not sure who said this, maybe someone at Pixar? Anyways, just because it's a show for kids doesn't mean it can't cover more adult topics (or in this case, some basic psychology i.e. kids using imaginary friends to get their way). Arthur covered cancer, Bambi exists, soul covering existentialism, etc etc.

me to but hey its just a theory A FILM THEORY

There's the Industry and our Government for ya

Well again Sesame Street is supposed to reflect towards real kids who are watching this. You wouldn’t be surprised when you see real kids having to deal with real situations

This is the first stage of the Karen evolution line. First the Abigail stage which evolves into Becky and learns sassiness at level 16 and finally Karen at level 35.

It's not a theory, it's a fact.

I thought Zoe was stereotypical, even if I didn't know what it ment. I've always been annoyed by girl stereotypes.

@@-Skidisme.Iamskid- Less of a girl stereotype, and more of an attention stealer personality archetype. Annoys me to no end and sympathize more with Elmo.

When I was a kid, she didn't even exist. They obviously added her because affirmative action for purely sexist reasons.

This video is clearly about Rocko's Modern Life

Zoe is so freaking annoying, almost unbearable to watch in some episodes.

I barely remember S.S. but as soon as I saw Zoe, I was like, “Who are you? Anyway I instantly do not like you.” I guess I must subconsciously remembered hating her too.

@do not ironic

@time to leave earth should do one of bear in the big blue house

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@@OvertMysteryChannel "The purpose of this conditioning, is for kids to accept the illogical and irrational opinions of others in order to spare their feelings. Even if it goes against the child's self interest." This^^^ A huge example of this is gendered clothing and gender in general tbh. Its such an abstract concept, and it ultimately serves no purpose but to separate us from each other. Like 'boy clothes' or 'girl clothes', 'boy hobbies' or 'girl hobbies', 'boy colors' or 'girl colors'??? They are just things, they have no gender. And yet, people are shamed or prevented from doing things they love. Good point my dude

@@OvertMysteryChannel Funnily enough, My position doesn't use subliminal messaging or underhanded tactics to get kids to adhere to some decades-old social standard that should have died the moment it was conceived. Nah, we just present people with choices. "Feel free to flip this...its a good argument, you will likely not be able to come up with a better one." That was an argument in the same way heating up a frozen pizza is cooking; barely fucking counts. You didnt make a point. You waved your supposed moral superiority in the air and left. Life is short. Luckily it only takes 2 minutes to type out a response to a comment that sounds like it was formulated by a 10-year-old. And by the way, it's *waste, not waist.