Film Theory: The Avenger That RUINED Dark Phoenix!

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The latest movie in the X-Men franchise, Dark Phoenix, came out in a blaze of... well, not glory. This movie got HORRIBLE reviews - critics and fans alike were NOT here for Jean Grey's big fiery moment. Why was that? Why did this movie do so EPICALLY bad? Well, that's actually on Marvel itself. Oh, I don't mean Marvel Fox - I'm talking Marvel DISNEY and it's cast of Avengers. Specifically, one single Avenger that caused Dark Phoenix to FAIL!
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Researcher: Zach Stewart
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Комментарии : 7 тыс.

@christopherrobinhood9802 4 года назад

Dark Phoenix and Fox: "Disney, brother, help me!" Disney stabs their hands! Disney:"Long Live the King!"

@yoovie1 4 года назад

Oh my god your comment is so cringey jesus

@tinaomeara2089 4 года назад

Pixar no!!!!

@Meow-ow6oh 4 года назад

@@yoovie1 Your reply gave us cancer

@darthrex4512 4 года назад

Marvel: noooooooo

@kalelgabanes7518 4 года назад

Godzilla: Who's the King?

@Trebord_ 4 года назад

To be honest, I thought that the Dark Phoenix poster was a Captain Marvel poster at first glance.

@modernkennnern 4 года назад

Same. Cover looks like Captain Marvel. The teaser (the one with the x) looks like x-files. Great marketing

@val4362 4 года назад

Same

@SuperBlueBow 4 года назад

I thought the aladdin poster was the dark Phoenix poster

@oblivion7092 4 года назад

Yea same

@RustineBueno 4 года назад

LOL IKR XD I was like “wha- Oh WAIT NVM” XD

@MatthewDoesThisNow 4 года назад

I’m starting to think MatPat doesn’t like Disney...

@vanijsharma9767 4 года назад

Ya dont say

@user-Jay178 4 года назад

Lol

@turtleguy4109 4 года назад

69 l i k e s

@theultimatechaser 4 года назад

@@turtleguy4109 I almost liked it too. Still at 69

@turtleguy4109 4 года назад

@@theultimatechaser thanks

@blubberface2337 4 года назад

"If at first you don't succeed... sell, sell, sell to Disney!!!" Dude legit the mouse owns lucasfilm, marvel, fox, and so many other franchises that wanted or needed their money (pixar sort of co-owns). This stuff is crazy

@kitkate3402 3 года назад

As long as they dont buy Dreamworks I'm happy

@dylanbowers6292 3 года назад

I'm honestly scared Disney will try to own the entire entertainment industry. Imagine video games, tv shows, cartoons, comics, ect with the same lazy writing and plot holes as the new Star Wars trilogy 😨

@GNGR57 3 года назад

They tried buying DC but they said no Then Batman vs Superman happened

@hiraeth7877 3 года назад

and ABC

@kitkate3402 3 года назад

@@hiraeth7877 you are incorrect but ok :)

@nartheos2211 4 года назад

Any Movie Maker: This movie has no hidden meaning! Mat: Hold my theories.

@otakutron4310 4 года назад

It’s actually “hold my Diet Coke” but ok

@borucharnold9406 4 года назад

@@otakutron4310 I like diet Dr. Pepper.

@jackofalltrades8412 4 года назад

@@otakutron4310: it's diet coke! Me: hold my *cherry* coke

@snipersboy14 4 года назад

@everyone it’s diet water

@borucharnold9406 4 года назад

@@jackofalltrades8412 I know, I just like my DP.

@horsejoergen4931 4 года назад

Thanos: I am inevitable Jean: I’m better than u Tony Stark: I am iron man Mickey Mouse: I own you. And I, am dead.

@EK-dj9dj 4 года назад

This is so true

@SKULLTHEWIZARD 4 года назад

Iron Man: I am Iorn Man "snaps finger"

@Cheprock83 4 года назад

@@SKULLTHEWIZARD damn right

@Euzoqr 4 года назад

@Bendy The Ink Demon are you 10

@mxngos7493 4 года назад

Matpat: I MAKE THEORIES!

@chronicmedisorder 4 года назад

"At this point dead superheros are to Film Theory what dead kids are to Game Theory." - Matpat 2019

@alonsolupercio9108 4 года назад

I remember when Shazam use to be called “Captain Marvel”

@Goldbonds 4 года назад

Ok boomer

@crusadertime6746 4 года назад

@@Goldbonds dude you did not just do that 😅

@alonsolupercio9108 4 года назад

That One Guy Whatever you say 😂

@lorekeeper685 4 года назад

Shazam was litterly called captain marvel then Marvel get into lawsuit stuff with the ahazam charecter which weird stuff happend shazam stayed at DC but not the name

@alonsolupercio9108 4 года назад

DZ Gamer You probably didn’t read it right, I mean that Shazam use to be called Captain Marvel before DC changed his name. I’m sure you’re the idiot for not understanding it.

@ultrabeastiary7261 4 года назад

Film theory in one sentence: "Behold endless death."

@catroyalty6360 4 года назад

Yup

@m_e_nere 4 года назад

Ger?

@deadaccount8054 4 года назад

Film theory: am i a joke to you?

@Goblin_Gaming001 4 года назад

WITH SCIENCE!

@thetheatreguy9853 4 года назад

But hey that's just a theory. A death Theory

@maddiecarney7577 4 года назад

Honestly whoever is the voice of Mickey... 10/10

@justwill3435 4 года назад

Maddie Carney he's not

@SomeChez 4 года назад

FootOfAFerret doesnt even have a foot Edit: why does this have 10 likes. Thank you tho I appreciate

@abdlhmdx 4 года назад

It's Matthew himself, it's noticable.

@otraqc9977 4 года назад

Touya Todoroki It’s not MatPat

@parker0216 4 года назад

actually that's Footofaferrit

@avrilsilverio7868 3 года назад

The problem I had with Dark Phoenix was the characterization of everyone, how Raven kinda just dies, how Jean becomes so numb to the fact she killed Raven, someone who believed in her so much, only to get killed off because the movie needed an emotional death.

@variasanddragon Год назад

I gotta agree, I mean the death felt so shoved in that I couldn’t comprehend a reaction to it, if anything just critiquing how Raven didn’t give Jean space when talking to her. And yeah the way Jean just doesn’t acknowledge it very well kinda made me brush past the situation. I may be speaking without experience but I just think you have good points

@EleanoraDzen 4 года назад

I remember being confused as a kid that Jean Grey never had a ‘name’ like cyclops or night crawler or shadowcat Now I see that she lost it but it’s an oversight on the long run

@bricksgaming8999 3 года назад

Same. I once watched an episode of the new X-men series when the characters were introduced and they were like "Cyclops, Wolverine, Storm, Jean Grey". Like, why

@gwengrasso1887 2 года назад

Same, but I never knew Shadowcats name; I just called her Kitty Pryde all the time

@birdgirl8390 2 года назад

huh now that you said it 🤔 at some point I started calling her phoenix because I kept forgetting her name and all my friends were like "you've called her what now?"

@Lucretia19 10 месяцев назад

her new alias now is phoenix

@Ben-om8sr 4 года назад

Plot twist: this video is actually being made by a skrull while matpat is on vacation in a simulation

@SNinjaQK 4 года назад

ffh spoiler

@dupli1457 4 года назад

@@SNinjaQK there literally was no clue of far from home in that sentence if you didn't watch it

@SNinjaQK 4 года назад

@@dupli1457 i said it as a joke

@papaparsley7695 4 года назад

@@dupli1457 Didn't u just spoil it in this comment?

@dupli1457 4 года назад

@@papaparsley7695 No..?

@matcha_tea274 4 года назад

Dark Phoenix in a nutshell: *"I CAN'T CONTROL IT"*

@shot-gi6mr 4 года назад

I havent even watched it yet but I already subconciously knew that.

@snereon7739 4 года назад

Sounds like Frozen xD

@myrech 4 года назад

My sex life in 4 words

@bekleedee 4 года назад

@@myrech LOL!!!!

@lterry5135 4 года назад

Gudetama

@RecluseBootsy 4 года назад

Director of Dark Phoenix: "This ending looks too much like Captain Marvel. Change it, make it look more like that Deadpool 2 movie with a prison transport, power-draining collars, and a final plea to the obviously demented youngling..."

@michaeldmingo1525 4 года назад

I went to see Captain Marvel with a friend who hasn't watched any Marvel and straight away he said "Jude Law is the bad guy, he's always a Villian right?"

@7nameless904 2 года назад

Who even is that

@animesloversunited9069 2 года назад

@@7nameless904 foster parent

@7nameless904 2 года назад

@@animesloversunited9069 oh ok

@c1tylights782 2 года назад

@@7nameless904 the mentor guy

@hakirianascarbrough8166 4 года назад

Hey matpat I have a suggestion because you enjoy killing childhood dreams so much How much chocolate will it take to kill Clifford the big red dog Holy crap I did not expect this

@antonioiniguez1615 4 года назад

Hakiriana Scarbrough genius

@ksporty15 4 года назад

What about grapes?

@michaeltnk1135 4 года назад

That’s the most random thing ever. Why would he do that?

@Sub2Cider 4 года назад

3.14 tonnes

@satansgrandma6728 4 года назад

MinifigureXtreme why wouldn’t he?

@tyrant-den884 4 года назад

My issue with Dark Phoenix is making the enemy of a conclusion to a decades spanning series be some aliens we never heard of before.

@DCLightning 4 года назад

My issue is we never got to see quicksilver tell magneto that he was his son

@BassProHunter14 4 года назад

That's a fair point

@TCGJake 4 года назад

Tyrant-Den my issue is they made the same movie 2 times

@tyrant-den884 4 года назад

@@TCGJake pff, I wish. The original at least had a couple of awesome visuals, along with the best X and Magneto.

@felixlandproductions4552 4 года назад

I honestly hoped they would use Mr. Sinister.

@Thisguy38 4 года назад

MatPat: Disney will own all superheroes except DC Valiant & Image comics: Am I a joke to you?

@rodjacksonx 4 года назад

Everyone: Yes?

@lordhendrickson8585 2 года назад

@@rodjacksonx This has aged like fine wine.

@evpecha 4 года назад

20 years later: Me: I can't wait to see The justice leagues fight the avengers Friend: Yeah who would've thought this would happen MatPat: I should've seen this coming

@DoubleBoost23 4 года назад

Dead heroes in Film Theory and dead kids in Game Theory Behold MatPat's evil self MurderPat

@yourpsychicfriendfredbear 4 года назад

I call him Matripat. I mean, it’s not the most relevant but it sounds decent.

@autumbreeze1129 4 года назад

I honestly still haven't even seen Dark Phoenix yet. I just don't have any motivation to

@shadowfukkinblowed 4 года назад

This right here, i was hyped for it til the trailers came

@seanworthman2056 4 года назад

That is the same for me with captain marvel as well

@gabrielaj7941 4 года назад

It was awsome

@jgeorge2693 4 года назад

As a fox distributed film it will be on FX in a year

@wombatpandaa9774 4 года назад

Don't bother, I almost walked out and I didn't even pay for it.

@MrGonecrazy001 4 года назад

Why did Captain Marvel perform better? Infinity Wars, period.

@bogdannicolas6359 4 года назад

By being before endgame

@itsPlasma06 4 года назад

Both of you are pretty right...

@MrMaxHauser 4 года назад

Just because it made money doesn't mean its good

@cykesrevenge 4 года назад

I really enjoyed Captain Marvel - yes even Brie Larson's performance. on the other hand I recently watched Dark Phoenix now that its on bluray and surprisingly i liked it as well - it was no where as bad as EVERYTHING i had seen about it made it out to be. It still has some MAJOR issues but it was enjoyable. Neither movie is the greatest Marvel movie ever, but they are not the worse either.

@cassandraetienne2054 4 года назад

@@MrMaxHauser I thought.. that's exactly what that means? Sorry I get it's not a 10/10 movie. Just poor choice of words. Lots of money in every movie case = a success. Opinions aside.

@jacksonmakowske9531 3 года назад

when he said wednesday and every other weekend i freaked out a little because that’s my schedule for my dad lmao

@swagsquirrel3534 4 года назад

I think people didn't watch it because so many better movies came out around the same time

@pk_rockk2237 4 года назад

I actually watched it because i like x men and there was no other movie that was good and i really liked this movie

@UnderworldsHeiress 4 года назад

But it was a good movie!! Not the best X-Men movie, but it was good. I watched it because X-Men are the first hero saga I ever watched, both cartoons and movies. I just got disappointed because I was hoping for a little more, specially more Nightcrawler's time on screen because he is my favorite character.

@bickle8931 4 года назад

Underworld's Heiress i thought it was fine but worsened due to it being the last installment of the franchise

@Larsonlaneent 4 года назад

i saw that dark pheonix was an epic superhero movie coming out june 7th, and the secret life of pets 2, was a cute little pet movie coming out on june 7th. but from all the abd reviews on the pheonix movie, can you guess what i watched on june 7th? SECRET LIFE OF PETS 2, yep thats right, i watched that instead of dark pheonix

@pk_rockk2237 4 года назад

@@UnderworldsHeiress i agree with you but i wanted more Quicksilver

@insecdroid 4 года назад

I thought Captain Marvel was about a Flerken named goose and his side kick, Samuel L Jackson. Edit: Thanks for the kind words...and now to ruin them by saying that I actually liked Captain Marvel, especially Talos; the nord Warrior incarnation of Shor...hold on that sounds wrong.

@thetads2623 4 года назад

Can I like this again?

@joshuavis2736 4 года назад

If that was the movie then it would actually be good, unlike the actual movie

@arandomuser9459 4 года назад

😂 then it would have been a good movie!

@darthrex4512 4 года назад

Goose should have his own solo film. Change my mind

@Blade_Corps 4 года назад

Well..... you aren't wrong.

@songbird6414 4 года назад

I feel like dark Phoenix was missing an act. I loved the first part, and then it just suddenly ended with no huge and CLEAR climax. It felt like the writers just kind of gave up at the end. It was so disappointing because it felt like it could have been so much better, but it was just obvious that everyone, including the cast, was just ready to be done.

@Milovetic 4 года назад

Except DC characters? Disney: Hold my beer.

@MrBaconPeng 2 года назад

dang Disney just lost there family friendly image

@dolphinrooinc.1609 4 года назад

0:53 seconds in: Says the original x men movie visuals: Shows the movies that aren't the originals

@legitnaur 4 года назад

One sin

@peytonmac1131 4 года назад

I assumed it was a joke, given those movies were set at a time before the originals.

@rayshawnmyers1990 4 года назад

I would've liked it if there was more Quicksilver

@I3ATTLE05 4 года назад

Same

@adeleaslan8182 3 года назад

We all would

@kalanderakalanderaar1678 3 года назад

Flash is better

@kalanderakalanderaar1678 3 года назад

And I know it’s DC but he’s still better

@kalanderakalanderaar1678 3 года назад

MrAndroidXD i know but still

@hannah-op1bt 3 года назад

honestly where DP messed up the most for me was that they killed off mystique (raven) SO UNRELUCTANTLY. mystique is a HUGE threat in the comics, like Prof X and Magneto levels, and they killed her off as if it was NOTHING. sure, the characters are upset, but nothing heart-wrenching happens to me, like I didn't even cry

@lordvika2526 4 года назад

The thing is within Marvel comics there have always been Skills that just want to live in peace, and other Skrulls that wanted universal domination. Just like every single population some want peace and some want war. So who's to say that the Skrulls we see in Captain Marvel are the peace loving ones and in Dark Phoenix are the war loving ones.

@rodimus7926 4 года назад

Thanos: I am inevitable Tony Stark: I am Ironman Mickey Mouse: I own you

@-hello6177 4 года назад

Thanos: I am inevitable Tony Stark: I am Ironman Mickey Mouse: You are my bitches

@Soup-ho3ek 4 года назад

what do i do he is in my house

@bytes2915 4 года назад

Danny DeVito: I am the trash man

@HandmadeGoose97 4 года назад

Mickey Mouse is inevitable

@zander1210 4 года назад

Batman: I’m Batman

@allenthestudioguy1551 4 года назад

I see matpat's ongoing war with the overmouse is going well.

@thenafguy2006 4 года назад

Yup

@matthewmoran5297 4 года назад

+Practical Nonsense You cannot fight the mouse. >:)

@anemu3819 4 года назад

@@matthewmoran5297 burn the mouse

@TheRibottoStudios 4 года назад

They often fight with the song tensions rising in the background so yea good times

@awesomegaymer5786 4 года назад

matpat fighting Mickey is equal to a one month old fighting the hulk

@codfy11 4 года назад

Matpat saying:first class & the future past is AMAZING-- X men apocalypse:hey Matpat:NANI!?

@seanjsellscars 3 года назад

4:00 I don’t know what this effect is called, but it’s so friggin awesome every time I see it used!!

@RandomThoughtsFromEll 4 года назад

OK, but like the whole 2 quicksilver thing would also be pretty confusing.

@ligtningdog6399 4 года назад

That was more of a legal matter. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are deeply tied to both X-Men and Averagers. So they similar had MCU Quicksilver die and had Fox's Scarlet Witch make a small cameo.

@clownlivesmatter7925 4 года назад

Pretty easy really they will just make his death in avengers cannon since Disney is the one doing the take over

@Joeki11a 4 года назад

One of them is a Skrull

@tweezyfbaby503 4 года назад

Is that even english?

@ShadowSonic2 4 года назад

@Ultimate Spider-Man He's a Flash wannabe.

@mythxmusic1609 4 года назад

"A soul for a soul..." -Disney, throwing Jean Grey off a water tower

@ahatforahat3291 4 года назад

You already know this comment is gonna blow up

@shattaredentertainment4782 4 года назад

Wouldn't work youd have to sacrifice someone you love to obtain the soul stone

@mythxmusic1609 4 года назад

@@shattaredentertainment4782 big oof

@patefam6357 3 года назад

Mat pat: Pulls blindfold off even though he’s tied up Me: Obvious confusion

@biomecraft356 Год назад

Man... I kinda just feel bad for Dark Phoenix now. It feels like it got shafted by Captain Marvel and Disney.

@-4subscriberswithahammerad521 4 года назад

Thanos: snaps fingers Iron man: let me reverse card this

@preston_1087 4 года назад

@youtuberfangirlnamededyn6186 4 года назад

Hammer Addiction4u Do you have a list of amazing comments to get them to go viral, because they’re amazing every time

@Grace-nt8cd 4 года назад

Just a sec

@darthtroller 4 года назад

My friend just said that joke today

@MC-ns8gb 4 года назад

Wow! A comment that has nothing to do with the video! I hope you enjoy you're meaningless internet points

@awesomeanbar9402 4 года назад

The biggest plot twist in the history of movies: MICKEY MOUSE IS THE VILLIAN!!!

@isaacwoodward9611 4 года назад

Is it really a plot twist though

@awesomeanbar9402 4 года назад

@@isaacwoodward9611 nah it's pretty obvious at the moment

@Cheprock83 4 года назад

It was all for the good of the people

@matias1876 4 года назад

Awesome Anbar BIGGEST PLOT is mickey payed thanos as a hitman because they made mickey a toy

@emancoy 4 года назад

A very predictable plot twist

@HayderAbdulridha 4 года назад

Finally, your super hero name has been confirmed, Mad Pat.

@xtaniwhax9655 4 года назад

Matpat then: I love Disney so much that I got a bumper sticker of it! Matpat now: *MOOUUUSSSEE*

@MrCal2648 4 года назад

X-Men 3 was also Dark Pheonix and in either case, neither of them can compare to the 90's cartoon version of Dark Pheonix.

@graywolfdracon 4 года назад

Few things can compare to the 90's cartoon.

@seanwilson531 4 года назад

yeah, but at least the 3rd X-men had Wolverine as the walking Deus Ex Machina (or whatever the proper term is) I mean, "I'm the only one who can stop her." imagine if Charles was unable to reason with Jean in Dark Phoenix. the whole world would doomed either way. >:-)

@georgeliquor1236 4 года назад

Or you know... you can just read the comics instead....

@seanwilson531 4 года назад

@@georgeliquor1236 pretty much, young people today don't "read" anything anymore. (unless it's text messages or RU-vid comments or Instagram, or their damn tweets. -__-

@georgeliquor1236 4 года назад

@@seanwilson531 As much as I hate to admit. You are right. No one likes reading, even if its comics. But hey at least comic readers have a big edge of advantage over movie normies.

@Oshawatt 4 года назад

X-men: *exists* Didney: i'm about to end this man's whole career

@witchluisamultifandom1212 4 года назад

You mean gisnep

@eliraeclipse2435 4 года назад

Who's didney? I only know this knee

@weegee9616 4 года назад

*kidney

@Oshawatt 4 года назад

Look for everyone making fun of how I spelled didney I’m not taking it back because to me it is now didney

@markgodfrey1693 4 года назад

smg4 reference?

@GrandArmyGaming01 2 года назад

8:31 "So apparently Marvel gets custody Wednesdays and every other weekend" Nice Three Days Grace reference

@AleesaTana 3 года назад

What I find interesting about the X-Men franchise being back with Marvel, is the Rogue and Carol Danvers story line being more of a possibility - the Rogue I grew up with had Carol's powers and her psyche trapped in her mind... Heck Mystique was originally a Ms. Marvel villain, and Rogue was meant to debut in that comic before it was cancelled.

@gravity4261 4 года назад

For a second I thought the thumbnail was matpat flipping us off with the gauntlet. I am disappointed

@ImJayy583 4 года назад

Flipping**

@YawnerCube 4 года назад

@@ImJayy583 *flicking

@ImJayy583 4 года назад

Was no

@ImJayy583 4 года назад

Wait I thought you meant the middle finger

@Voluse 4 года назад

@@YawnerCube *fricking

@adamsadek2864 4 года назад

When I first saw the dark phoenix poster, I was really far away from it. and I thought it was captain marvel, since both posters are very similar.

@lunabistudioo 4 года назад

Mr Mordacai Smith ikr I mean nowadays almost ALL the posters are red and blue lol

@DrayLoco 2 года назад

Honestly, I thought Dark Phoenix was pretty good until the last act which was just kinda okay. And The New Mutants had so much potential and a great cast if it was a TV show it woulda been great, but I still really enjoyed it

@switchgamer2788 3 года назад

MatPat and Mickey Mouse: The greatest rivals of all time

@duhreel1 4 года назад

I wish the hereos weren't all divided owned by different companies and just run by marvel alone no other strings attached

@reverseflash8520 4 года назад

Marvel is dead, only Disney remains.

@Electru522 4 года назад

And that's what Disney has been working to undo. Like Matpat said, Marvel was broke at one time, and the best way for it keep the lights on was for it to sell the rights to their characters. They didn't want to do it, they had to.

@user-fi3or2ee7k 4 года назад

@@reverseflash8520 Disney owns all. Netflix can hopefully hold them off in streaming but movies have been taken over

@vinhtiennguyen9876 4 года назад

Well one thing for sure is that disney hasnt been able to get back the rights to hulk from universal, so much for owning all

@jactheripper7852 4 года назад

Duhreel Vlogs give it a couple years. Disney will own everything once more

@IIDynamoDuckII 4 года назад

My 1st thought when I see an X in a circle like that, is "The X Files"

@aquicha8168 3 года назад

Same

@prinsessLee 3 года назад

When i read that i thought it was ThE x *FliEs-*

@jvpro2076 3 года назад

I think of stupid tic-tac-toe

@mistymoooooor 3 года назад

When I watched dark phoenix with my family, when we realized they didn't do there X-Men intro, we knew it was bad.

@dookieplanet2026 4 года назад

Spoilers for Far From Home, this theory is correct when it comes to the scrull talk

@theuglynakedguyfromfriends8134 4 года назад

Was listening to some good old movies soundtracks enjoying the hell out of my time but then the Matpat's notification popped up , and you know what i had to do . The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

@xander5762 4 года назад

Which soundtracks tho because I want to make a list of movie soundtracks to listen to

@brandonm7952 4 года назад

Rumen Videnov o l d m o v i e s

@shenzai1347 4 года назад

I wanna know which soundtracks as well

@theuglynakedguyfromfriends8134 4 года назад

Soundtracks from movies like the original Blade runner, or Star wars , anything epic goes like Portals in endgame.

@r5037 4 года назад

If fox had just adapted the Phoenix saga properly they would have been fine. The similarities are only there because phoenix was so watered down that it was unrecognisable.

@TheRezro 4 года назад

I even joking that it should be in fact Onclought, as split personality was his thing. Dark Phoenix was eldritch abomination convinced to be Joan, after all. Whole gimmick was that she was so disjointed from her memory that enemy could easily convince her that she was someone else.

@markchapman6800 4 года назад

Fox saying "We learned nothing from the failure of rushing this epic story out as a single movie the last time, and we'll make it In Name Only anyway, including shoehorning in Mystique and Magneto even though they had nothing to do with the original" made it very easy for me to just ignore it.

@crazzoverdrive6848 4 года назад

Disney: Sup We need money so we are going to make Great Movies Bad! Me: Yay!

@mzmuffin 4 года назад

I really wanted to see this movie especially because the background and how much I loved the actual story I didn’t get to see it.

@SBTheDemon 4 года назад

Bill Gates: I’m the richest man alive probably. Mickey Mouse: *Hold my clubhouse*

@walkingfortress9698 4 года назад

Hotdog hotdog hot digidy dog🌭🌭🌭

@abigduck4943 4 года назад

I think Bill Gates isnt the richest man alive rn

@marcustepase2997 4 года назад

Meeska, mooska, Mickey Mouse!

@RockBottom7626 4 года назад

That title goes to Jeff Benzo.

@Mu1tiGames 4 года назад

King Yamcha 🤦🏾‍♂️

@sashamendelson876 4 года назад

What's actually terrifying is that Disney will own most of our entertainment in the future 😨

@DPAE-xc4ph 4 года назад

It's illegal for them to own more than 50% of the entertainment industry.

@aqwkingchampion13 4 года назад

I mean, WB is still putting up one heck of a fight.

@onespiker 4 года назад

@@DPAE-xc4ph i think it is ilegal for them to buy into 50%. if they grow like this its still legal as long as they dont try to destroy thier compietion

@abigduck4943 4 года назад

U dunt want that they treat me like a kid

@eng3d 4 года назад

Our? I look elsewhere

@nicholasgidzak8698 4 года назад

the funniest part of this.... "Wednesday and every other weekend" is actually my custody till I get a judge involved :p

@Multihazardkerbecs 4 года назад

You will have to do a theory on Godzilla King Of The Monsters

@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 4 года назад

It doesn't help that X-Men already did a bad version of Dark Phoenix with X3.

@jaschabull2365 4 года назад

We do not speak of X-Men: Last Stand.

@uhoh6706 4 года назад

I’m the juggernaut bitch

@computerguy6264 4 года назад

It wasn't any worse than the new one.

@Hyntin 4 года назад

Yeah, as soon as I heard the name Dark Phoenix, I lost all interest. That is the legacy of X3. Cpt Marvel had nothing to do with it. At least for me.

@Oshawatt 4 года назад

Fabrisse ter Brugghe yeah and that those movies were tied in with the new ones in days of future past with Jean still alive

@GoldenSpoon109 4 года назад

Why are there so many Endgame meme commenters in an X-Men comments section? Oh well, I guess they’re inevitable.

@engelbergmunoz3179 4 года назад

Because the left over avengers stragglers, Game of thrones fangirls, and anti-statis quo anarchists who want to be the anti thesis of everything are the only people who even bought a ticket to this overrated and underwhelming sophie turner cash check.

@shmackbob 4 года назад

Hi dad I’m joke

@isolofvtion 4 года назад

And I,h am Iron Man

@isolofvtion 4 года назад

This comment deserves like 20k more likes

@higorsilva9818 4 года назад

"turning heel" I understand that reference

@jjw0078 3 года назад

when he said marvel went bankrupt idk why but I started laughing 🤣🤣🤣

@jamesw5952 4 года назад

It’s true , Disney was supposed to be a friendly angel not a monster of massive and powerful control

@paternusowen2106 4 года назад

The same thing is happening with Nintendo, at least to a certain extent

@yesnomaybeso8633 4 года назад

@@paternusowen2106 How much did Sega pay you to write that reply?

@paternusowen2106 4 года назад

@@yesnomaybeso8633 50 dollars

@famillesabot5719 4 года назад

That capitalism yude🧐🤑💸💵💲💰

@beforecuddlybunnylps841 3 года назад

@@paternusowen2106 good thing it wasn't 50 cents. That would be close to slave labor.

@WhiteRaven696 4 года назад

Ironic that Carol Danvers, the only non-mutant superhero to be an X-Man, would be the cause of their death at cinemas. lol

@Darksilverjesse 4 года назад

by the rules set in the comics, back when angel was being used to "cure" all the mutants. "any being possessing an abnormal ability; speed, flight, fire, psychic, or even transformation; be it from birth, accident, or intention is a mutant. we are all brothers and sisters" by those rules, the hulk is a mutant, marvel is a mutant, quicksilver and skarlet witch... oh wait, they are in x-men too...LOL. many mutants have the same or similar origins, just look at wolverine and sabertooth, spike and toad, gambit and rogue. it isn't uncommon in the Marvel Universes for multiple characters to have the same story, just slightly different. NightCrawler even references that he has stopped in the wrong dimension before because it was so close to his own.

@TheRezro 4 года назад

@@Darksilverjesse In real Marvel lore Earth was once visited by godlike aliens known as Celestials (Starlord dad) who perform weird experiments on humans, creating race of immortal Eternals aka Homo Immortalis (like Thanos, who is in fact a human). After they move from Earth other aliens come to Earth and perform own experiments creating Inhumans from residual Celestial DNA, but Hive rebellion force them to evacuate and surviving Inhumans into hiding. After that yet another aliens come and did basically the same, with over time Dr. Charles Xavier forming X-Gene theory defining those possessing Celestial DNA as Mutants or specifically Homo Superior. Both X-Man (organization) and Inhumans are considered as mutants. In fact many unrelated heroes (like Squirrel Girl) also are considered as mutants, even if they don't associate themselves with the movements. Mentioned case of Hulk is unclear. His father believed that he is a Mutant, but did they ever used blocker on him? It work only on real Mutants, what yes, include majority of superheroes, but not all of them. Anyway Phoenix Force is an alien and despite what shitty movie saying, not Joan Gray. Joan was only one of many its hosts, what in fact include also Mar-Vel.

@jaeusa160 4 года назад

All of this is even more ironic since Rogue literally stole Ms Marvel's powers and put the character out of commission for some time in the bygone old days of the X-Men, and is also the Rogue from the 90s animated series that introduced a lot of folks to the franchise. Really comes full circle. Rogue, the character that removed Ms Marvel out of comics for a while, kicks off the first X-Men movie... Ms Marvel dunks the last one until the MCU gets them.

@JohwnE 3 года назад

I love how Matpat have a "rivalry" with Micky Mouse and Disney in his videos as if they actually care irl lol, NEVER change Matpat

@camwheat 2 года назад

Omg. The meme at the end is priceless 🤣

@josephmacha 4 года назад

Thanos: I am Inevitable Iron man: I'm about to end this man's whole career

@Cheshieruu 4 года назад

--and my own whoops

@rinalds1620 4 года назад

how original

@elboesen4895 4 года назад

Dark Phoenix: Captain marvel: I'm about to end this mans whole carrier

@spinsaw 4 года назад

Fuck Captain Marvel

@KarAtFeng 4 года назад

Fuck this joke is getting old

@parker0216 4 года назад

you mean woman's whole carrier

@Lynch2507 4 года назад

@@spinsaw rEeeeeEEeEE

@Xeroh_01 4 года назад

spinsaw Dark Phoenix is still better that pics of crap hero.

@gypsybelle4757 Год назад

Such a shame. I love Dark Phoenix/Jean Gray. She’s an awesome character. I feel like they wasted it.

@shadowfreak71972 4 года назад

Good stuff, mate. Keep it up!

@IchigoKurosaki_ 4 года назад

Lets face it the Wolverine made the X-Men franchise 👌

@johnny5936 4 года назад

X men died when Logan did.

@jeremystarnes2955 4 года назад

And Iron Man made avengers a franchise

@axelvaughn9625 4 года назад

This is a shame because I like Jean more than Logan

@hyejoohye 4 года назад

Jeremy Harris true but we still have many avengers left

@HandmadeGoose97 4 года назад

@@johnny5936 X-Men were already dead, Logan and the wolverine movies were the defibrillator keeping them alive

@GetInThereATrain 4 года назад

Anybody think that the shape-shifting aliens in X-Men looks like Jeffree Star

@marksilla8276 4 года назад

I feel so bad laughing at this

@Karma_andSage 4 года назад

and that alien from Doctor strange 👽

@aliens566 4 года назад

Jeffree star probably is a shapeshifting alien

@jakeneubauer8069 4 года назад

@@aliens566 not probably

@woomygamer642 4 года назад

@@jakeneubauer8069 r/Wooosh

@EloquentTroll 4 года назад

I really want a Dark Phoenix movie to work. The comic and the 90's cartoon both knocked it out of the park, Fox nailed it once, but couldn't do it outside of animation. They got Days of Future Past so right in animation and live action. And of the X-men centric stories those are 2 of the most iconic.

@michaelweiss5320 Год назад

When I first started reading Xmen in the 90s, even I got confused. I thought Ms Marvel and Marvel Girl were the same person, until I read up on Rogue's back story. Rogue got her strength, flight, and near invulnerability from Ms Marvel. That's right, Rogue permanently steals Ms Marvel's powers, by accident because Carol put up such a fight and Rogue held on way too long. Not only that, Rogue for a time actually believed herself to be Carol Danvers, because Rogue also absorbs the memories and personality of whoever she touches. Rogue was a villain at the time, having Carol's personality is what drove her to seek Xavier for help and how she became an Xman. This all happened before Carol became Captain Marvel, she went by Ms Marvel at the time. That's why you don't see Rogue flying around punching things in the Xmen movies because the Xmen and Avengers have yet to cross over in the MCU. Plus Captain Marvel didn't get her energy powers until the aliens called the Brood got ahold of her. That's when Carol went by the name Binary. Carol wouldn't become Captain Marvel until much later.

@doublevizzion 4 года назад

CAN WE ALL RESPECT THAT UMBRELLA ACADEMY MADE AN OVER POWERED CHARACTER WHO GOT LIED TO AND STARTED TO FIGHT HER MENTOR WAYYYY BEFORE THESE TWO

@higglepiggle7751 4 года назад

Whats that?

@vulpixle9659 4 года назад

Actually false umbrella academy didn't release until 2007 after the release of captain marvel and dark phoenix

@FilmTheory 4 года назад

Umbrella Academy deserves SO MUCH MORE ATTENTION!

@jakewhiston6461 4 года назад

The Film Theorists I disagree once something is in full view of the public it gets tainted and becomes so corporate that it will end up as dry as Riverdale or most Netflix originals

@pattykcake 4 года назад

Can we get an umbrella Academy film theory pls matpat?

@7heGame7ester 4 года назад

Me: Ha! Try and make me believe that captain marvel and Jean Grey a the same! Matpat: Hold my beer...

@pedropimenta896 4 года назад

Diet coke*

@FTWorWTF 4 года назад

Whiskey for life.

@TheRezro 4 года назад

Mar-Vel was always one of hosts of Pheonix Force. Because shitty adaptations don't understand that Joan and Phoenix aren't the same, it doesn't change this fact. PS: If I would retcon X-Man in MCU, I think it would make most sense if that was thing of the past with Xavier erasing humanity collective consciousness of mutants. After all X-man and Inhuman are basically the same and they in fact already introduced Celestials (Ego) and Ethernals (Thanos) anyway. Also Joan is dead also in comic.

@CybersteelEx 4 года назад

@@TheRezro No more mutants

@xxshadow-_-gamerxx1932 4 года назад

@@seerkambanelangovadikal8099 Haha how old are you ? 🤣

@invaderbrickstudios900 4 года назад

Film theory request : In season 3 of ninjago, the city called ninjago had turned into a futuristic paradise with flying cars, drones and robots until a computer virus of a evil overlord took over and created a army of robotic ninja called nindroids so its up to the ninja to save the world(if you don't understand what I'm talking about look up ninjago masters of spinjitzu season 1 - 3 or12) at the season final after one of the ninja sacrifices himself and the overlord was defeated then throughout the entire series everyone in ninjago city decided to abandon all enhanced technology and go back to current technology we have so is it a good idea to abandon AI and envane technology when it goes horrible wrong then after the war against the robots should we not remake technology? 🤔 It makes more sense in the show.

@invaderbrickstudios900 3 года назад

Thank you now spread the word please 😁🙏

@duntless8810 3 года назад

@@invaderbrickstudios900 uhhh fan boy

@yo_so_lo2.068 4 года назад

Not only is there a lot of overlap but there was so much hype and hunger for captain marvel ever since her symbol was seen at the most recent movie in the avengers series up to that point. And sadly the x-men instead of being intertwined it was just more of a separate series, heck it almost seems like an entire separate series. And the x-men series just kinda gets lost and almost forgotten, except for the x-men movies that we all love. So yes I can see how you see a lot of overlap but the biggest problem for dark Phoenix was the love for the whole intertwined avengers universe and the almost separate x-men universe.

@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 4 года назад

How the Hell did Dark Phoenix do better in its opening than Godzilla did? It has worse ratings and is an inferior movie, not to mention it kinda has the fatigue explained by MatPat here. Of course, Godzilla's got a decent amount of money, but King of the Monsters deserved way more for the effort put in.

@nikt12 4 года назад

because it's a marvel film. Disney market their movies like Jehovah witnesses. It's almost impossible to miss a trailer or Ad about it. You'll see posters, billboards, news articles, talk shows. You will walk down the street and a flyer in the wind will slap you in the face. it has global coverage. and literally anyone from 8 to 50 will probably watch it. and it's a new film. A new story. Sort of. Godzilla tho.... barely got any marketing done. Isn't showing in all countries. most people think it will be shit since the last one was kind of a disappointment and this is a sequel. (and judging by the reviews... they would be right)

@lindacauso4952 4 года назад

I realized that too, i personally thought Godzilla 2014 and 19 were great movies

@Metrion77 4 года назад

1. The marketing for King of Monsters wasn't as extreme as other Kaiju movies. 2. The Xmen movies have been summer blockbusters with good marketing for almost 20 years straight. 3. Dark Phoenix is the final Fox X-men movie. Season and series finales always draw more attention. 4. Comic book movies are dominating Hollywood. Kaiju movies are suffering from infamous flops like Godzilla 2000 and the more recent one that barely had Godzilla in it.

@lordraiden7397 4 года назад

Found you >:)

@JS-uh3ms 4 года назад

Agreed

@pyrosianheir 4 года назад

This thing between Matt and the Film Theory version of Mickey is starting to worry me... Are you okay, Matt?

@davidmeigs2152 4 года назад

Really, I was just sad that we won't get any Skrull Secret Invasion / Dark Avengers movies...

@Alonknido 3 года назад

I was legit so tired that one moment I was at the start of the Theorie, and the other moment it was done.

@ohrats731 4 года назад

Lol the circled X on black just makes me think of X-Files. But yeah I didn’t even know Dark Phoenix was out yet 😂 And shhhh I love all the Wolverine movies 😂😂

@ietsbram 4 года назад

also: all of the marketing was based on having 1 'famous' person in a big role in the movie, that stuff never works unless you have an absolute legend, and sophie turner simply isnt that (yet)

@thorodinson4380 4 года назад

And she never will be

@thorodinson4380 4 года назад

@TopMedia1 lol does she? She's just famous for Game of Thrones Nobody cares what happens to her after that

@xenosaga8436 4 года назад

@TopMedia1 lol not really. She was mediocre at best in Game of Thrones. Her other movies were either terrible or no one has heard of them/may also be terrible.

@nathenewendzel7806 Год назад

Jean Grey and Marvel Girl were originally the same character in the comics, but over the years, they were formed into two different women characters. That could be why you see so many similarities between the two.

@VunderGuy 4 года назад

10:45 Which is hilarious considering, of all the big 3 intergalactic empires, the Skrull, Kree, and Shi'ar... The Skrull are the ones who are objectively the single most mustache twirlingly evil, and considering what the Kree and Shi'ar have done, THAT is saying something.

@livelygrind 4 года назад

What's Dark Phoenix? THE X MEN ENDED WITH DAYS OF FUTURE PAST. POINT BLANK.

@DebitAdams 4 года назад

I would say Logan

@anonymousaccount4483 4 года назад

GameOn/GameOver Well sir, it’s an irrelevant prequel (First Class and DOFP are prequel but not irrelevant)

@marieduran6286 4 года назад

You are correct sir! I think something happened to Prof. Xavier after dealing with the Dark Phenix that weakened his telepathic powers and made him susceptible to strokes, then someone that is more powerful than he is influenced Wolverine, thus causing the Manchester Incident. I believe that it might be Prof. Xavier's twin sister.

@japanrocksgousa 4 года назад

The original 2, then deadpool, then logan,then factory reset.

@josephtpg7329 4 года назад

I agree that X-Men ended with Logan. Unless Deadpool can revive it.

@allesabernix 4 года назад

The moment I saw the X in the circle I thought of the mf X-Files lmao

@gillettewow4667 4 года назад

I thought it was the Bible lmao

@embroideredragdoll 4 года назад

Fucking same

@bertoandon9681 4 года назад

Same

@maggie81573 4 года назад

Ditto!

@Iliveonearth 11 месяцев назад

Anyone ever notice that the actor of cyclops stared in ready player one and he look almost exactly the same on both posters

@NekoEcho13 4 года назад

Who did the voice for Mickey at the beginning because DAAAAMN that impression was on point.

@kinsonliu520 4 года назад

"If at first, you don't succeed, then sell, sell, sell to Disney"

@thehalobrony9050 4 года назад

And thats not what happen in 2009. Marvel studios was originaly under Paramount Studios during half of the face 1 movies. Then Disney made an offer that Marvel could have denied. We all owe our thanks to Disney that made helpt made the MCU and all the movies we loved (and dislikes) from.

@omegared7814 4 года назад

Ypu stole that from the viedo shut up

@billcipher779 4 года назад

Omega Red Dipshit

@omegared7814 4 года назад

@@billcipher779 dumb ass bitch

@omegared7814 4 года назад

@@billcipher779 stupid bitch

@THEAdmiralXizor 4 года назад

Dark Phoenix failed because everyone knows that it's irrelevant to the MCU. That is all.

@rigatonipasta 4 года назад

Sad but true tbh. It could've been good, but feminism wins all.

@albumkosong 4 года назад

Not only that but the movie itself is bad

@seby826 4 года назад

it also felt like the mid ( not so great) movie of a trilogy not the end

@FluffleFluffs 4 года назад

@@rigatonipasta what does feminism have to do with anything? What sense did that even make? Without context your comment sounded pretty sexist dude. And yes I'm a guy.

@bkdmode 4 года назад

@@rigatonipasta What does "feminism" have to do with why Dark Phoenix sucked so bad? If they had kept the original ending the movie probably would have got a few percentage points higher on the Tomatometer thanks to a more action-packed finale but it would not have changed everything else that made the rest of the movie suck. How do I know the movie was bad? Because in previous movies QuickSilver had memorable, standout scenes but for the life of me I cannot remember what he did in his "big scene" in Dark Phoenix. Even the characters that are supposed to be the best, Charles and Magneto, are boring in this movie.