Film Theory: The Inside Out 2 Emotions Are All WRONG! 

Should’ve been happy and sad

Again

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@JolasBobas-jn3ui😂

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Maybe its cuz she still finds attraction kinda disgusting still

Disgust "promoting" into Love makes a lot of narrative sense, every kid has that "Boys/girls are gross" phase that they grow out of.

You could make the same argument for joy/sadness: if Sadness knows what upsets Riley, then shouldn't Sadness know the opposite, that which makes Riley happy?

Yes i think it would make sense if she ended up handling both emotions. It would look cool if she developed some pink/purple characteristics over time due to being both love and resentment/disgust

@@fridamrch4759 Ennui is purple, embarrassment is pink

Gotta remember at the end of the first movie when she becomes depressed she literally shuts down the control panel for her emotions.

@@archtansterpg4246 I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

Also, we can't forget that at the end of the movie, when Riley feels joy, she calls upon Joy by the movie showing the console pulling Joy in with particles, and Joy walks up to the plate to take control.

Exactly what I was thinking, especially when it comes to that point when anxiety is trying to get Riley to abandon her friends but her values are getting in the way, showing that other things can directly negate the actions of an emotion.

@@DORAisD34D Much like how these emotions can be negative, they can also be positive. However, I understand what you mean. I would 100% want to see more of those emotions be more fleshed out and see the influence they could have to the entire system.

And the dad’s anxiety is always just out of view(he got no fan fare)

I think that Riley's mom's anxiety came from the offices under the "Great 5" and went quickly to report them her serious concerns about Riley's hair.

I feel like the adults have just gotten better at coping with their anxieties and what not, so they’re not shown often

@@cornchips3285 Yes, part of being an adult is managing your emotions and not letting them run your entire way of life!

Or else anxiety got promoted to "headquarters" after the mom "demoted" anxiety a.k.a numbingly ignored it and is now accepting it again as an emotion

Anxiety is hypervigilant fear, seeing danger that's not there. But it's still fear

You still said fear, It's two different emotions, just that Anxiety is usually a subordinate to Fear.

*Insert Freddy Fazbear laugh here*

then i feel anxiety almost every day 💀

Fear and Anxiety are not *totally* different, I would say Anxiety is subordinate to Fear. I feel anxious *because* of my fear(that may or may not be reasonable, real and coming very-very soon). Although people feel emotions differently, from my experience I would not say they are much different. I actually think, that "the big five", controlling everyone, should be "upgrading" everytime, so Anxiety is just an old pal Fear, but advanced. Boredom could be an advanced Disgust, Envy... Maybe advanced Sadness? Idk. I do think that shame could be Sadness though. And actually I would've loved to look at that conflict - Joy and others feel themselves different and they are shocked by each other's behavior. Fear aka Anxiety could've still do the same thing, as in the movie, but the problem is that nobody understands what happens, why is he doing that, why are them being different and how they should deal with all that. That would've been both hilarious and intriguing.

dont weorry its disney They will insist

maybe that will be in insideout 4 and maybe nostalgia will be introduced

@@CuppaLLX Pixar*

CHARLES THE FRENCH

Yeaaaaaaaaaag

The surprise was how good inside out 2 was.

@@whirl43 I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

Maybe Surprise really is the friends we made along the way...

@@Potato_Of_Regrets Pikachu

Surprise: Exists Pixar: P E R I S H

Already Riley likes a boy named Jordan

Finally, someone who spouts facts

THANK YOU

so then he was scared or fear which ties in with anxiety and anxiety ties in with panic attack

I feel like that would still spark a panic attack.

@@amedotuniverse652 It was launched through a freaking building. Adrenaline is definitely going to run through me for both mental and physical sense.

Also envy? I've felt envy when I was a toddler

@@yodarchernia9944 ennui isn’t just boredom, it’s also the lack of caring for something.

To add to what theo said, Disgust and Anger both covered boredom for Riley. A kid may be bored, but they never brood like a teen or tween does, they're very likely to yell "MUM! I'M BORED!" or "THIS IS BORING!" in an angry or disgusted way, respectively. If you've ever seen a bored kid, they never stay bored for long because they always find a way to do something about it haha!

​@@HYDROCARBON_XDI've felt anxiety when I was 7

And I really don't think she has never felt shame before. I can guess, Sadness covered it before... But still.

Interesting. I gotta watch it

Down to the fact that the thoughts themselves are not bad, just the cadence they happen (ie losing sleep over big events)

Dude it’s actually insane how perfect they portrayed it. Especially buildup to the panic attack scene. I felt that on a SPIRITUAL level 😭

I have anxiety too, the making up fake scenarios is so true!!!!

EXACTLYY

There's also a LOT of not so hidden gags. Like Anxiety bringing a lot of (emotional) baggage.

I think that Inside Out is definitely one of the best pixar movies to have ever been created and will have a legacy for years to come. Just like Wall-E!

​@@icarue993 I'm so dumb I didn't even notice that

They did consult child psychologists for the films.

@@pokechatter about 4 or so

@@justadragonwithaphone8878 I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

Envy really felt less like Envy and more like Emulation. There wasn’t much resentment or hate in what she did.

Ennui can be sarcasm too bc of that scene

Vigilance would be Anxiety and Joy working together. Like how at the end of the movie, Anxiety remembers the test and Joy keeps Anxiety focused on preparing for it rather than spiralling out of control.

holy i just commented basically the same thing, great minds 🤝🤝

Anxiety is really surprise

JolasBobas ate too many cogs

When your parents say 'We need to talk':

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True

Also, the colours that are imperceptible.

Bro is Gerry Keay?!

@@amphibiland7315 magnus archives mention

Isn’t that pretty much what happened though? The new emotions overthrew the main ones and the main group had to figure out how to get ahold of them and manage them correctly

I don't see it, where is it?

@@Grayscale10a1it’s a joke bud

@@zasproductions9258 oh, sorry

it should have been bittersweetness cuz the movie made it perfectly with what happend with matpat not sadness in the beggining

I swear matpat hates me 💀

pops up whenever dead kids are mentioned

You mean curiosity for wisdom of worlds?

yep

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sadness just turns into depression

Cool idea

My theory is inside out 3 will introduce love. I also want it, I want to see Riley grow up

Wait this is actually dope. Imagine that the emotions could convert into OTHER emotions based on the situation Riley is in? It wouldnt be likely now, since they already made new emotions for IO2, but the concept alone that fear can accidentally morph into a subemotion of himself like terror just sounds awesome. Like Joy turning INTO Love, or Sadness turning INTO depression.

It might also be good for teaching younger audiences about emotions

I thought surprise would be orange. Anxiety is a function of fear as. We emotional basis for surprise . Then by definition ❓ I the basis is for bad news. Then Surprise becomes 🤯 Anxiety is really surprise

​@@osmosisjones4912I can barely understand this sentence but I agree

I hope we get Riley dad theory soon

@@MrMayhem010 I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

Hmm billion dollar hit yep theory

A gentle giant

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I freaking love Embarrassment

Same

@@jennifershepherd2921 yessssss!!!

I'm shocked BLUSHING is an emotion 💀

Yeah but someone pointed out that if you look closely at the control board pre- demo day that there are orange buttons, so even before the upgrade those emotions existed and were capable of coming out but didn’t in Riley’s case. They were somewhere else until both puberty and Riley’s worries about not having her friends brought them out.

@@hanaomer4419 it could have been that the emotions were always there, but just evolved into their own emotion once they became prevalent enough in riley's life.

I'm not an expert but to bounce of Forrest Lee's statement (11:16), kids biologically start with a few and gradually add more. Unfortunately, not everyone's stories are the same and some are forced to confront and add new emotions even if inexperienced. You are correct in that it's a difficult process for a child to feel and not express. I'd love a world where kids could discover these feelings in a healthy environment. And because of that, I am grateful there's more conversations and media like Inside Out putting a spotlight on these things.

@@TheVainGame yeah, that would be nice

I have had I think all my emotions since I was born

Uhm... Aren't ALL emotions evolutionary traits? After all, that's what makes us (and some other animals) different from very old lifeforms like microbes. Each emotion has an original function when viewed from our ancestrial tribes' perspective: Joy? Communicates that things are going well and others can be calm too. Anger? An injustice has occured and needs to be fixed. Sadness? Something's wrong o something terrible has happened and the members of the tribe need to comfort eachother. Fear? Do I have to say it? it's the original "DANGER!" alarm

Yes

yeah not every reating is a panic attack, sometimes you need a moment aftet he adreniline high to get your focus back and adreniline can cause tunnel vision. its lest a fear response as a wind down

What do you mean? Bowser got awesome rizz

Bowser has amazing rizz.

@@bonnieplushtuber5517 It takes a lot of rizz to be a king and keep an army loyal.

Swear to god i saw megamind 2

The saddest of the all, Matpat retiring 😭

no one gonna talk about the guy in the tv from mandela catalogue there

@@menteyayyREAL

@@menteyayyI thought that was willian afton💀

In my opinion, in the sequel, they should have made the emotions more fluid. Like, when Joy cried, her yellow would turn blue. When Fear saves the group and feels joy, his purple will turn more yellow. This representing these complex emotions. In the end, when Anxiety and Joy come together, they create Excitement. When anger felt happiness, in hockey, pride or euphoria was created... In my opinion, I loved the movie, but it would have been a good concept for these more complex emotions to be born from this evolution. Type that anxiety was born from a strong event where Fear and Joy had to play the command together. Shame of Sadness and Disgust. Envy of Disgust and Joy... It would have been an evolution to the multiple color memories of the first film, that little by little these emotions were forming.

Peter griffin Poo reference?

Idk I think you have an interesting point but confusion is more of a state of being rather than an emotion. Like being tired or too hot or too cold.

I feel he would be more of an orange than a brown, I know anxiety kind of took that but like he could be a separate shade of orange, more bright as he isn't really a negative emotion

@@eugenekrabs141 yeah I thought orange as well when I first came up with him, but since it was already taken by Anxiety I settled on brown.

Finally, I found my main emotion !

There are some people who think that Gloom secretly wasn't scrapped..

Most of these aren’t emotions and most of them are similar and the same

missed an opertunity with Pride and Predudice

Nishishi hope and despair -danganronpa fan

They sort of included depression in the 1st movie when she was running away, but not as a character

@@rosalindmccollum6012 I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

We do think there are a lot more plurals out there than commonly thought though, but cos they're unaware or otherwise functional they have no need to tell anyone Or they may even assume everyone else works the same as them. Especially as English has many phrases which can be interpreted in a plural way, like "I'm in two minds about this" and "I'm at war with myself" In truth everyone is a system of parts, even if not plural at all. Everyone is complex with different sides to them that get expressed in different contexts/situations, "work me" and "weekend me" are very different people even if both still You Plurality is a spectrum really too

@@DORAisD34D I do like that idea.

Wait,wait,wait,what's plurality? Is it feeling like you're made out of multiple people,each trying to claw their way to the surface because I've been looking for an explanation for that for years

Yeah but thomas sanders always said that sanders sides was never meant to represent plural disorders like DID in anyway

If you go back to the last Chart with 108 emotions, he even states that some of the outer rings are combinations of certain base emotions. Where it comes down to reasoning and feeling as to why we react. Those complex emotions need more than one to properly convey the underlying reasons. Also, these are generalized and in turn are set for a broader scope of people that do fall into these categories. There will be outliers and or exceptions to the rule. Not everyone, but the majority. So if you personally react, feel and or look at life differently, that's simply you being an individual, and your mind/emotions acting accordingly.

Maybe the thought was that something that disgusts you should make you angry? Which doesn’t make sense, something that disgust you can also make you fearful, or just dislike things. Maybe the emotions wheel shouldn’t be a wheel with primary emotions.

Maybe anger is actually a subset of disgust, as in you're disgusted by injustice (lack of fairness) to the point of being inflamed about it

@@MapleTaurus No. Anger is certainly a base emotion. Disgust takes reasoning for us to understand why we're disgusted. Anger is primal and can happen just because without reason.

I feel like theres 2 different types of disgust, you can find a horrible person repulsive and thats because youre angry about what theyve done, and separately get grossed out by things like foods and smells that your body/memory tells you to avoid for your wellbeing, which is fear based. It probably would have been better on that wheel to have Disgust between anger and fear, but the latter type is kind of more of a physiological reaction than an emotion, so i sort of get why its structured this way instead, theyre just focused on disgust as the feeling of "i hate that this exists". Pixar has conflated both types to make the character of Disgust the one who keeps Riley away from everything she doesnt like, and that very much feels like the reason for her existence comes down to fear and anger existing first, thats where the emotions that make Riley not like something in the way that could lead to disgust come from. When i ry think about it though...thats kind of complex for a little kid to understand, and even at the age she is in the first movie she probably wouldnt have thought to consider where her disgust comes from, its still just as simple as "the emotion pops up around these things so i avoid them without thinking twice". By the second movie though...its kind of stretching it to say that Disgust is still a core emotion leading how Riley feels as opposed to being better understood as a reaction to whats been laid out already by fear and anger. But Pixar has kind of made its bed and now has to lie in it, Riley is kind of going to be stuck not learning much about her own thoughts and emotions as she grows up to keep the cast of characters the same, its not like theyll actually start the third one with "oh yeah we just dont really talk to Disgust much any more, oh well"

Imagine if the movie really did have 108 emotions

Yeah, Riley couldn’t always be happy and never used sadness

I have never felt joy 😃

yeah because you can’t feel joy if you theorize!

stolen

@@mingshi7689 y-yeah that's the point of the movie dude.

Same

Says all three of you, I had nostalgia when I was eight and revisiting my toddlerhood friends!

Don't forget "Aaand cut"

@@ComradeDylan-pp9nc I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

I feel similar, like boredom is a lack of stimulation vs. numb being a lack of response to stimuli. Boredom, you're trying to find the right stimulation for the moment, but nothing fits and it's irritating. Feeling Numb, you can _sometimes_ interact with stimuli, but typically can't. Either way, you don't really respond to anything; like you said, you just shut down. Finally found the original! Wasn't giving my like to the bot that reposted -_-

​@JolasBobas-jn3uifortnite

Same 😭

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@@SoggyCrackerz I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety. Anxiety could be anxious of embarrassing Riley by messing up during practice, thus suppressing Embarrassment which in turn would make Riley lose motivation since she’d take no risks in fear of embarrassing herself- Or she could have an embarrassing situation that hinders her confidence. Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends. Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through

@@SoggyCrackerz ok