Film Theory: Venom is the VICTIM! (Spiderman) 

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The Film Theorist: "He's a parasite" Venom: *Apologize!*

Venom:Jump? *Eddie Gets in Elevator* Venom:Pu**y

MatPat: venom is lost and scared Venom: let’s bite all their heads off

“The movie sells the idea that venom is trying to corrupt Eddie Brock, but in the end, it might just be Eddie who ends up purifying Venom” Wow, you were right on the dot with that one

This man could probably convince us all to believe kim Jong un is actually Dr.Phil

To everyone who's upset that in the movie Venom himself says he's not a parasite, ask yourself this: Would a parasite BE HONEST and SAY he's a parasite? Just sayin'...

If this man was my teacher, I would come to school even on weekends

"the world has enough heroes " considering this movie takes place in a world were only the venoms exist I think the more accurate term would be the world literally has no heros

My fav part: Venom: jump. *eddie goes to elevator* Venom: Pussy.

Eddie: "What really made you change your mind?" Venom: "You. You did, Eddie."

See also: Venom’s species has to have a perfect host to be connected with for long periods of time. Eddie is one of those people for Venom specifically. Venom’s species can yes connect to anything but it can hurt them if they don’t find a compatible one they could die because of earth’s atmosphere and whatnot. They can’t survive on the planet so they’re forced to use humans as hosts even though it can hurt them big time

You had so much right. So much. But a symbiote, by definition, isnt a parasite. It's a mutually beneficial relationship between the two organisms. The human gets strength, agility, speed, deadly 'natual' weapons (spawned from the body) while the symbiote gets a host to provide sustenance and a base skeleton to work from. From a typical predator prey relationship, their partnership easily puts them on the top of a food chain.

Actually Venom is a victim for another reason - in the comics it's revealed that *Deadpool* actually wore the Venom symbiot shortly before Spider-Man found it during Secret Wars.. Deadpool realised that his mind would warp/corrupt Venom & returned it to the machine where Spider-Man took it from, literally stating that he hoped his psyche didn't drive it nuts. Depending on how you treat the recent Secret Wars comics, canonically *Deadpool* could be the reason that Venom is evil(ish).

This is also correct because as Venom says, they have to protect their host to live, and Venom had to constantly risk his life to keep Eddie alive, so that he could live.

Matpat is literely the coolest person out there I mean this man could make me believe that I am not reall, just I don't understand those people who call him cringy or make fun of his theories just they are full proof and meet logic. He just is awsome But thats just a theory, a matpat theory

I know I'm late, don't yell at me. Honestly 12:20 is more terrifying than some of my worst nightmares.

"But who knows, Eddie might just be the one who ends up purifying Venom" Fucking nailed it

"In the end, Eddie might just be the one who ends up purifying Venom" - quote from this theory "What made you change?" "You. You did, Eddie." - quote from Venom movie Hmmmmmmm.....

Venom: I'm hungry Eddye: we just left the buffet, you have five meals! Venom: HUNGRY!

Venom is a Viscous Ectosymbiotic Neuroactive Obligate Mutualist (yeah science!!)

Before watching. Me: Venom isn't a victim or a hero. He's an anti-hero, he does whatever the heck he wants. After watching. Me: somebody get this poor little symbiote some tater tots.

When you said something about an evil doppelganger, i instantly thought Darkiplier???

I have always loved Venom, and even thought in the Spiderman movie that venom was not that bad. So this video mad me happy to know I was not the only one that thought he was not bad.

Spoilers I mean... the noblility and honor thing is kinda spot-on. The further into the movie you go, the less sinister Venom becomes. Except that one “feed me or i eat your liver” line, but that could very well be an attempted joke.

But Venom is actually a Symbiote as his relationship with Eddy is symbiotic as both entities benefit (anyone bonded with the Symbiote gets cool powers, while Venom gets a host).

My knowledge comes off the information he gives through his videos. I’ve learned more here than school.

I remember reading somewhere that the reason Venom turned into a vilian was Peter rejecting him. Venom sort of loved Peter and was still in the process of bonding with him, the rejection confused and angered it while the broken bind messed with its head. This explains why Venom will so eagerly betray its hosts if it thinks Peter will take it back.

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Finally got to watch this movie a few days ago, and I just love how Venom doesn't want to keep other symbiotes off of Earth to protect Earth, but because if they come, he'll be a loser again. But if there are no other symbiotes on Earth, he'll be the strongest by default.

"There just aren't that many man eating cats out there." Clearly you've never meet my ex.

This Theory doesn't really even take into consideration that Venom is a freaking intelligent species, it's not just a mindless parasite like what we have on Earth. Venom and Eddie's "partnership" is symbiotic, crazy I know. Plus Venom's entire species is all about bonding with a perfect host and that's why (at least in the Comics) Venom and Eddie go after Spider-Man. Eddie wants revenge on Spider-Man for a dozen slights and Venom wants to bond back with Spider-Man because Venom believes him to be the perfect host. Venom and Eddie have a co-dependency relationship and it's highly toxic as fuck.

My favorite scene in the whole movie: Venom: jump? Eddie: *looks down off of building* Eddie: uhhhhhh Eddie: *gets in elevator* Venom: p*ssy

10:52 crewmate. There is one imposter among us

5:38, I appreciate the "A Beautiful Mind" reference.

"Everything the poop touches will be your home" -MatPat, Oct 12, 2018

6:52 funny you mention Deadpool, I'm pretty sure there's an origin comic that says Deadpool was the first thing to fuse with Venom before it met Spider-Man which is why people who fused with Venom endure psychosis because Venom absorbed a little bit of Deadpool's insanity.

You didn’t change my mind, cuz I already thought that it wasn’t venoms fault, his alien kind, Klyntar, have no meaning if they don’t have a host, and if there host isn’t perfect they basically go crazy and become venom

Venom is the Imposter from Among Us. -------------- CHANGE MY MIND

I'm convinced that Venom was a romantic comedy. Change my mind I'm not shocked at how many likes this has. Only people who can recognize the gayness in this movie deserve to watch it

Wait I just realized that this theory came out before the movie Soooooo,he only had trailer to work with.... ULTRA THEORIST LEVEL 1000 BADGE OBTAINED

I Tought this was Film Theory i only see Science

Actually in the comix, Deadpool created Venom in Secret War, becouse there was a machine that was made to create costumes and Deadpool bounded with Venom and left him, saying that he can feel that it has mind on its own and that it is hoping that bounding with his unstable mind(deadpool's) may damage its mental health

Actually Venom is a Mutual symbiot. As he gives to his host. Eddy is just as much to blame on using venom as venom is to Eddy. Kyle from Because Science.

This is a pretty good theory for someone who only had the trailer to go by, honestly. I would like to emphasize that the symbiote is not a parasite--it's called a symbiote for a reason. It's symbiosis, coexistence. Symbiotes do have to eat meat and brains to survive, sure, but in return, they basically give their hosts immortality. They can grow back limbs, halt cancer, and even keep their hosts alive in space. Anyone who's read the comics knows that a relationship between a symbiote and their main host is extremely special.

Watching this again now I super forgot it spoke about zoonosis. Super relevant given this past year.

I love that, looking back, you were bang-on with the ending lmao.

Matt:*Sometimes parasite’s go from animals to humans.* Me:*coron-...* RU-vid:*we don’t do that here.*

Two little bugs with that theory of yours. One: Venom isn't a parasite.The movie makes it clear that it even hates being called that. No, Venom is what's called a "Mutualist" which is a creature that benefits off of a host, but gives something in return, a very common from of symbiotic relationship. Lungs that can breathe and a body to roam with, in exchange for super powers, that's mutually beneficial, not parasitic. Two: Symbiotes are sentient, intelligent creatures. Unlike tiny germs and bugs, they can strive for much more than just survival. Several times in the comics Venom chooses to chase after some desire or make decisions based on it's own consciousness. Once in the movie even, while by itself with no host, it makes the decision to track down Eddy because he "likes him", even though Eddy threw it away and left it alone. I don't think this thing is the victim.

4:02 They affect Peter, eddy and Cletus differently because symbiots adapt to a person’s personality

For anyone who didn't know venom use to be a normal guy but was formed with Deadpool for a few seconds. Since it was in the mind of a complete psycho who breaks the 4th wall he went utterly insane

I watched the movie with my mom. I made a joke that she was like Eddy and I was like Venom Eddy: is on phone Venom: FOOD

Spoilers Me watches movie Turns out venom is the good guy

0:36 Matpat finally admitted it himself!

When I clicked on this theory, I thought this would be a theory about Eddy Brock in the Toby McGuire series. Not only did you surprise me, you made a WAY cooler theory. Good job, Mat Pat.😁

The "Venom" Symbiote is there to protect they're hosts. They make them stronger to help them, but the Venom we know that Symbiote changed, it went mad/insane because the hosts did awful things with its power. So simply, the Venom we know is an innocent Symbiote/protector(or also killer of the celestials) that has gone mad.

I don't mean to be a rude but the symbiote is not a parasite. It is a example of mutualism. Venom's race only wants to survive and reproduce and they achieve this by latching on to a host. Which is beifitional to both parties. The symbiote gets to live and reproduce while the host is given enhanced skills the reason that venom and carnage's symbiotes are crazy because there host were violent individuals. Symbiotes do not have personalities until the find a host.

"In the hopes of Mr fluffy eating you" matpat you are the funniest person ever.

I get auditory hallucinations and I don’t blame eddy for his actions, it can get terrifying especially if your on your own

Matpat:Venom is a paraste Venom:APOLOGIZE!!! Matpat:No. Infects himself in Matpat Venom/Matapt:We Are Flim Theory

Actually, it is a symbiote, and not a parasite because they both help each other. The symbiote helps him just as much. In the comics, it actually keeps cancer from killing him.

I like how in the venom movie they made venom a person basically like a co-pilot and then Eddie and venom switch

This is just a comment meant to show appreciation to the film theories that were proven true by the end of the film. Good job MatPat!!!!!

Venom adopts the characteristics of its previous host,it is murderous because it was first worn by Deadpool. Clintar (Venoms race)are actually very friendly and protective.

12:16 might just be the scariest thing i've seen

Seeing hugo strange from arkham city made my day 1:43

As someone who watched this movie came out I loved it, and to me this theory seems like a win!

Well, Kylntar do have positive effects on their hosts. Venom cured Eddie Brocks cancer as well as giving him enhanced physical abilities. They’re parasites but also symbiotes.

Someone help this reach matpat,but how has he not done a theory on cloudy with a chance of meatballs or has he

The times MatPat said the word parasite in this video would've triggered Venom to the point than he becomes flammable.

venom even kinda explains this sometimes in the comics saying he feeds of the chemicals produced by emotion which provides most of his "diet" except for one crtical chemical that the body cant produce enough off even when ramped up by the symbiote which is why he eats people specifally there heads sometimes as the two biggest sources of this key chemical is in chocolate and human brain matter

Venom is an anti-hero. That means he's not a superhero or a supervillain.

2:14 that's wrong. You can apply the same definition to a symbiotic relationship. Venom doesn't just take nutrients from Eddie, he also heals and takes care of him, the same way some ants clean lice to get sugar off of them and the lice gets to move around.

im here from 3 years, and 4 days in the future, and the audio quality has gotten a lot better over the years

good job for actually having a close guess to the video length!

“THE WORLD HAS ENOUGH SUPERHEROES.” Avengers: Are we a joke to you?

OK, so I watched Venom the other day with my besties and these were the results: 1. None of us agreed with the ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, we thought it was actually good 2. One of them is now obsessed 3. One of them sang 'the taco song' at the most intense fight scenes Overall, good experience Would I do it again? Hell nah Believe me when you hear 'the taco song' at least 17 times, you will lose your mind

9:00 or covid

I know this video is super old but i am stunned about the cat vs mental health. I grew up with cats and my anxiety/depression is off the charts.

I would like to point out that when a symbiote bonds with its host some traits are kept from each other. For instance when Eddie learned how to control the Venom symbiote and became a “hero” in the comics he would eat people’s faces and think that it was ok. Every person who is currently bonded with a symbiote is violent and crazy. Also Venom isn’t a parasite he is a SYMBIOTE because he will protect his host and keep him from dying.

Well, if we go with agent venom, and what we learn there, that isn't far off. Since the venom symbiote was seperated from it's home planet and exiled it was "damaged" and bonding with impure hosts like Eddie didn't help it, until Flash made it a hero and returned to it's planet and it could be cleansed. Love Agent Venom stuff by the way.

I love how in the title you say Spider-Man even tho it’s not a Spider-Man movie 😂

Um, @The Film Theorists, matpat, I think you’re forgetting that venom is part of a symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic relationship. Symbiotic relationships benefit both parties. Also, how is Venom a victim? It just shows that Eddie changes venom, or Flash Thompson in the comics, to the good, not exactly showing that he’s a victim.

If you think about it, the Eddie/Venom relationship is more acute towards true symbiosis (as the name, “Symbiote,” implies). The definition of symbiosis is a mutually beneficial relationship between two organisms. THIS IS THE SPOILER WARNING. I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE VENOM MOVIE THE REST OF THE WAY THROUGH. IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN IT YET JUST MOVE ALONG. In the movie, they mention how the symbiotes attach to a host and, assuming the host is physically, and maybe mentally, a close match, attempt to feed off of the host’s organs. Now this, in and of itself, is parasitic but think about this: when Eddie gets the symbiote and he just starts eating everything he sees, Venom continuously tells him, “Hungry,” edging and commanding Eddie to find more food. Later in the film, when Eddie finds out Venom was feeding on Eddie’s organs, Venom keeps saying, “I can fix it,” or “I’ll fix it”. It is my belief that when the symbiotes bond to a host, the host must not only be physically compatible, but also mentally compatible. As in, the two must have a reason to be together. The symbiote and the host must have the same goal or motivation in mind. The host must also be able to provide all the energy the symbiote needs, whilst also allowing the symbiote to, “take over”, every once and a while. The symbiote then in turn, lends the host their strength, knowledge, and skill in order to protect it. In the movie, Eddie and Venom have a reason to be together. They both hate Carlton Drake, they both hate the Life Foundation, and they both don’t want to be together. When Carlton bonds with Riot, Carlton believes that symbiotes we’re higher life forms and that humans should be merged with them. Riot hates humans, loves symbiotes, and wants his kind to come back and feed on the humans. Let’s also assume that they were physical matches for each other. If the host doesn’t provide the right nutrients and energy for the symbiote, it’s forced to eat the host in order to survive. That’s just my take on the symbiote/host relationship.

I like how in the movie, Venom is a good guy and not a bad guy like in the comics and series. Like, he helps fight crime.... yes he kills people but he stops crime and saves some people and not just go on murderous rampages across the city and kills every single human in the way.

3:30 bad news for me too i think while slowly putting down my fork full of food

Uh.... Didn't Eddie Brock say he can only "EAT BAD PEOPLE" and that is why they ate the guy at the store....?????????????? I mean that conversation happened in the same scene??? Am I missing something?

Eddie: I'm infected with a malicious parasite that wants to eat people Mat: I have just the thing... *rummages through bag* HERE *hands Eddie shave butter*

8:57 add COVID-19 too this list

Venom is my favorite. He has such a interesting story and personality.

Imagine eddie and peter just chillin together until..... VENOM vs SPIDERMAN!

1:25 “Rolling down the street, like a turd, in the wind.”

5:36 Cat be spooked. 7:15 Parasite bouta offend PETA. 12:44 Some manly pampering.

Matt talking about parasites reproducing at 7:16 hits different when you know that Venom and Eddie had several children together in the comics

havent watched it yet but of course venom is the victim, spider man always attacks him when his just trying to hug people.

Loved that little animation with the lazer beams at 8:16 . This stuff doesn't go unnoticed!

honestly, this (the symbiotes backstory) is why Venom is my favorite character (particularly when he's bonded to Flash)

MatPat: You see, once you strip away all the alien goo nonsense, Venom is the dictionary definition of a parasite. Venom: PARASITE?!

Eminem voice: VENUHHHHHMMMM

Because science did a great video on what symbiote venom is.