Film to Digital Converter Review - Kodak Reels Digitizer - Deep Dive

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Film to Digital Converter Review - Kodak Reels Digitizer - Deep Dive
This is a deep dive review of the Kodak Reels 8mm and Super 8 Film Converter
Film Converters:
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KODAK REELS 8mm & Super 8 Films Digitizer Converter with Big 5” Screen = amzn.to/3vuSzK5
- Handles 3", 4", 5", 7", and 9" Reels
- Produces 1080p digital videos
Wolverine 8mm & Super 8 Reels to Digital Movie Maker Pro Film Digitizer = amzn.to/3Z58KHd
- Handles 3", 4", 5", 7", and 9" Reels
- Produces 1080p digital videos
Wolverine 8mm and Super 8 Film Reel Converter = amzn.to/41j6Y7g
- Only does 3" and 5" reels:
- Produces 720p digital videos
Any Memory Card should work:
SanDisk 32GB 3-Pack -
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Play Time
Reel diameter Feet length Length Digitize Time
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3” reel 50 feet 2-3 minutes 30 Min
4” reel 100 feet 5-6 minutes 60 Min
5” reel 200 feet 12-14 minutes 120 Min
6” reel 300 feet 19-22 minutes 180 Min
7” reel 400 feet 26-29 minutes 240 Min
Chapters:
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00:00 Introduction
01:05 Product Overview
02:03 Unboxing
02:34 How to Operate Device
03:24 Processing Times
03:35 The Output
04:23 Pro - The good Stuff
05:18 Options
07:13 Issues
09:04 Closing Opinion
09:54 Sample Conversion

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5 июл 2024

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@Ni5ei 11 месяцев назад

The resolution of the sensor is 3280x2464 so the output file is downscaled to half of that! It's a shame there's no way you can get the raw capture from the device which would give you lots more to work with in post processing.

@user-xc1hb5xf8r 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much. I do film editing, now I have my families original 8mm. Thank you again.

@Stu2366593 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for your time and effort - very helpful in my self education as I seem to be in a similar thought process as you when you first started down this path. I probably am looking at getting something like this, but geez there are a lot of strong opinions out there. Some swear only by the Magnasonic etc. and wouldn’t touch your machine. However, the way you framed things and your hands-on experience does sway my thought process -its rational and based on hours of work with the machine. For me, 1080p resolution would be important … but maybe I am paying too much attention to this (I have a projector with a large screen, so 1080p is nice). Now, I am starting to think that the “post” conversion process is probably more important than the actual “raw” footage created with the digitizer. Any thoughts? I have liked and subscribed and will be looking at some more of your videos.

@BinaHejazi 2 месяца назад

Many thanks for the fantastic tutorial. One thing you didn't touch upon was the sound. Does the device capture the sound as well? Some of my old 8mm do have sound.

@fotomiete 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the heads-up. 20 Frames per Second and the erratic color correction with no way to turn it off are def deal-breakers.

@jeannomoral6323 Год назад

The wolverine converts negative super 8 film too. What about the kodak? Does it work with say Vision3 50D? Thanks for the review.

@ConwayBob Год назад

Thanks. Good review!

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@jamesscheller1873 Месяц назад

This is a great piece of equipment. The memories are resurrected

@Veederlicht 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for your review. You are the first one who is not trashing the concept of these devices in general. The contrast looks to be very high though, is this a RU-vid thing or is that the raw output? Are contrast and white-balancing adjustable in any way in the menu? Are there different file format options (like JPG)?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

There are very few setting inside the machines but you can adjust with software after the fact is what I had to do in some cases.

@Gloubu 4 месяца назад

I just bought a Kodak Reels...I noticed how the automatic white balance changes colors when it's not supposed to... Like the white balance goes from white to yellowish and back again in the same scene? Did you ever figure out a way to correct this?The inconsistency likely will have me returning it.

@RoyalAagesen Год назад

I got this Kodak reels film scanner and I love it. The only problem is that take up real Will sometimes stop and the film will go all over the floor but otherwise it’s great. my solution for the film going on the floor is I just put a box under it and if I forget to check on it, the box will catch the film and I can rewind it on the real and some of my rolls of film, are water damaged from a basement flood and I do not know if any companies who scan film will do water, damaged 8 mm film rolls the only film that got damaged are the ones that were on the small rolls I had 9 inch reels of film in metal tins and they didn’t get damaged luckily

@desertfarmguy4900 Год назад

Very helpful review

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@SexyBella161 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for all the information. How hard is it to transfer the files from an SD card to a DVD? Also can you put more than one 50' reel onto an SD card?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

There are ways to do that, DVD is a MPG2 format and is not a great quality codec. But there is software you can purchase to make dvd’s and they willl convert the videos and burn them for you

@willianaleman6114 Год назад

Thank for the review. Does the device provide RCA or S-Video/audio outputs. For preservation and restoration purposes, I would like to capture the film to to a higher codec, like ProRes 4:2:2, than MP4 with an external capture device.

@patrickcardon1643 Год назад

Nope, sorry, just got mine after watching a lot of YT videos on the Wolverine, Kodak and similar machines. All those machines only capture to SD card, and some have a USB port (but that's only to copy the files on the SD card to the computer, if you have an SD card reader just pop the card in there). You cannot change the codec or file container unfortunately. All you can do is zoom in and out (but I fear it is digital), move the frame around and change the default exposure, sharpness and tint. But you might be better off doing some of that in software. Considering the price point one cannot expect features of a pro model. If you got a heap of reels it's probably cheaper than sending it out for scanning. I hope someone will end up modifying the software of the unit to allow raw capturing

@willianaleman6114 Год назад

@@patrickcardon1643 Thank you for the helpful and detailed reply.

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

No, only a way to hook it to your PC to copy the files like an external card reader

@tonywilding9137 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the review, just wondered if there is an audio output to record sound on PC?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 3 месяца назад

There is not, because this is taking a snap shot of every frame, and putting it together, so it does not have the ability to read the audio... see my other video on all the ways to convert, because I had the need to get sound, and you will see how I did that

@tonywilding9137 3 месяца назад

@@MiddleSiggyHomestead Thank you, I guess also run the film through my projector and catch the sound from that and marry the film and sound captures in post.

@Realmusicvideo Год назад

Were you able to compare a Wolverine capture & Kodak capture of the same film ? Any significant quality difference?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

As long as you get the pro version of the Wolverine it captures at the same resolution. I found it had some of the same color issues. To the only difference I could tell was the internal drive and the film guides. Otherwise I felt they were just about the same. The standard version of the Wolverine I was not impressed by. And it captured at 720p

@patrickcardon1643 Год назад

A tip from some other user, don't push the take up reel completely in ... to avoid friction with the plastic of the arm. Also read of one giu on a forum that just had the film drop into a box and didn't use the take up reel as it got stuck regularly. A third one opened the arm to change the course of the belt. If your unit works though, don't touch it ;)

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

Those are all great thanks for sharing

@patrickcardon1643 Год назад

Ended up disconnecting the takeup reel motor ... too much noise and rumbling. When I have some time I'll see if I can fix that. Now trying to fix a problem of sharpness, the lens doesn't seem to have been set right. After that need to see about the automatic adjustments which push the colors too much

@patrickcardon1643 Год назад

For your information ... the lens was not adjusted correctly and the whole right side was blurry ... I ended up opening up the unit, taking inside out to be able to pop off the lens cover, mount it all back in after removing carefully the glueblob on the lens. The unit now has the lens in the open and I can adjust the focus. Pity you cannot use the USB cable to have a live image out on this unit.

@LisaAlmon-uy6sc 25 дней назад

Will the machine stop when the memory card is full

@thegeeman1945 Год назад

I just received the Kodak Reels Digitizer from Amazon. Luckily Amazon had a $100 discount coupon bringing the cost to About $300 which I thought was very reasonable. Fortunately I also found your channel. Watching you made setup and use of this device a breeze. I just digitized one 2 min 40 sec movie as a test - It was Super 8 from my daughters first Christmas in 1969. I didn't change any settings out of the box. When I watched the playback on the Kodak 5" screen the results looked pretty good but when watched on my 65" 4k TV I could see some flaws. This was expected but I think some can be fixed. On flaw was the picture seemed overly bright, which can be adjusted in the settings . Another was there seemed to be some "snow" in the picture and I am hoping that can be cleaned up by reducing the sharpness. Overall this is an amazing machine which will allow me to digitize my box of unused movies from both my and my children's childhoods. I thank you for your channel and all the input you give. After this I guess its VHS to digital next.

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

Wow, that really means a lot. I love watching my family movies of my aunt and uncles and my kids growing up. I am glad you found the video helpful. That was my whole point to my channel. Thank you!

@AzdinAzdin-zi2zl 11 месяцев назад

😊😅😅😢🎉😂Cc 😊😅

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

Hmm. That was kind of silly. Why did they make this record for a 20FPS output if they knew that's too fast for these films?

@gerardlouise 6 месяцев назад

Just got the machine and so far, It looks easy but I am disapointed that there is no settings to adjust the focus. When I project the movie on a screen with a film projector, looks pretty good but when I use the digitizer, it is very much out of focus. I am the right setting for super-8 so I know it is not the film. Any suggestions to help me with better focusing? Thanks

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

Make sure you have the film in the track properly. As long as the film is not blurry it should be fine otherwise you have an issue in the device

@cyrilcaine 9 месяцев назад

This is great! What is the size of a file for a 3 mn film ?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 8 месяцев назад

300-500MB roughly

@yadrak2354 Год назад

What about the sound? How do you capture or get the sound off from the 8mm and super 8mm reels?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

To get the sound off the film, for me I had to use the Kodak movie projector. The one from the 1970’s not the reel to reel you buy on Amazon. For me my projector has an audio jack in the back and I feed the audio into the camera I am filming the screen with as I show in the video. Hope that helps. Look in the description for the projector names on eBay

@LG-ld5ee 9 месяцев назад

How do we handle the focus? Some of the video comes fuzzy on screen but clear when projecting. How can I correct that?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 8 месяцев назад

It is a digital picture of every frame. So if the picture was clean so should your capture. But make sure the film is in the track correctly otherwise I guarantee it will end up fuzzy.

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

Is there a way to disable Kodak's color interpreter on this so you can just start it off with one setting and leave it, and then that might be less to have to tweak later?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 11 месяцев назад

Not that I am aware of.. Wish there was

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

Huhh, OK, @@MiddleSiggyHomestead, that's too bad.

@doowyllohhollywood 6 месяцев назад

With 20fps footage, what is the best frame rate for your editing timeline? I can't seem to find a consensus online. Some insist on 24p, others 60p

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

24 is the normal original rate but most of the upscalers will deinterlace and set it to 60 as a way to smooth the video.

@krystiankrysti1396 9 месяцев назад

So it does shitty autowhitebalancing hence the blue shift and then suddenly red shift, is there a way to turn those off and set own white balance ?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 8 месяцев назад

No unfortunately not wish there was

@marieshelton9928 7 месяцев назад

Is there a way to play the reels that are on a USB on a smart TV? My TV is saying the files are not compatible.

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

What TV do you have? Make and Modem #

@spiritualED 10 месяцев назад

So what happens if the film just stops? Do you press a button and it will restart from the point it got stuck or do you have to restart the whole process over again (hoping it will not get stuck again)?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

Just push the button and start it but it does make a second file.. so you will have to merge them in video software

@ricardocappucci9571 Год назад

I have used both the wolverine pro and the Kodak on my results after doing 20 400 ft reels the Kodak is about 10% in my opinion

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

Ricardo thanks for sharing. That is not what I experienced but I guess that goes to my these things are not perfect. But for the few hundred dollars opposed to thousands I guess that is what we get. Thank you for sharing.

@Realmusicvideo Год назад

Ricardo, Excuse me for not understanding . Are you saying the Kodak is 10% as good as the Wolverine Pro ? Or 10% better ?

@patrickcardon1643 Год назад

They all seem to come from the same factory, and with all brands it also seems to be hit and miss on the state of the unit you'll get. Some people have no issues and some are forced to send it back. I would guess their quality control is nonexistent ...I just got my Kodak and the tests are "ok". I did not expect professional grade scans but want a quick scan of a heap of reels to share with the family

@kd9856 6 месяцев назад

digitize super 8mm film with sound do they even make such a machine

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 5 месяцев назад

Check out my other film conversion video. Yes is the answer but you need a different device

@adzbasslines268 2 месяца назад

I own one of these. Yes they're cheap-ish, but cheap in quality too. It boasts 1080p, but that's still no good because of all of the noise in the image due to the bad sensor and software. Display the mp4 on a laptop size screen and it looks really shit. Honestly don't even bother. Just pay for a 2.7k or 4k scan.

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 2 месяца назад

Sorry you had that result, I did not in my case. As the video I shared was from the device i have.. but thank you for the feedback

@MrColin1948 4 месяца назад

No sounds ?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 3 месяца назад

no sound... :( It takes pictures of each frame, you need to watch my other video on all the ways to convert film for sound

@teddlear970 Год назад

If your saving customer film your waste their time and money. Universal RetroScan at 15 FPS is the best machine to have Great Quality and only takes 20 minutes to run 7" instead of 4.5 hours. The HD image 1080.

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

For commercial I would agree with spending the money. For personal I have to say I had the time. Thanks for the feedback.

@teddlear970 Год назад

@@MiddleSiggyHomestead ok. The image Quality is 100% better with the Moviestuff.

@pckennedy11 Год назад

@@teddlear970 Now that I have processed a few reels, I don't think the Kodak is for me. I was surprised to see that the two 7-inch reels I converted went from beginning to end without intervention. I must have made good splices. :-) The slowness did not bother me because I am not doing this professionally and I can do other stuff in my studio (lots of audio digitizing) while I let the Kodak chug away. However, the clincher for me is the image. The output is a little too noisy for me. This is more than grainy film. I just can't live with it. So, I have decided to return the Kodak and take my film into a local service. The service uses Moviestuff equipment. I don't have that much film to convert, and it is not an ongoing hobby with more reels to come, so the cost is not prohibitive. Thanks for your insight here and other RU-vid posts--very helpful. Likewise, @MiddleSiggyHomestead, thank you. I believe you pointed out that it is a judgement call about quality of output. I do like learning, and wow have I learned a lot about this lately. THANKS!

@Realmusicvideo Год назад

Why don't you make a video of the same 8mm film scanned on the wolverine vs the Moviestuff unit ? I think it would draw strong interest.

@teddlear970 Год назад

@@Realmusicvideo Sure, There is no comparison. But I'll do it. The Wolverine Pro is not as good as the Magnasonic FS81. Maybe I'll do that comparison also ?

@garywong5626 Год назад

Average Joe?? The old Suburban???

@MiddleSiggyHomestead Год назад

I don’t think that is the same one. It was apparently one they rented. I thought the same thing.

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

"An 8mm film or a Super 8 film..." * "A Super 8 film or a _regular_ 8mm film..." (They're both 8mm; one's just not the _regular_ version.)

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

"Literally anyone can do this!" Oh? When was the first time you saw a newborn baby or a quadriplegic do it?

@MiddleSiggyHomestead 11 месяцев назад

You realize I am not quite 1 yet.. :)

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

@@MiddleSiggyHomestead: Haha!

@HelloKittyFanMan 11 месяцев назад

"Also... also..."? Heh, oops! "Digitize... into digital..."? Heh, oops! "I actually started with the... Wolverine standard converter.... The standard is what I started with..." Oops again! Man, you really love redundancies, don't you?