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Film vs Digital - image comparison (you’ve got to see this to believe it!) 

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Film or Digital? Whats the difference between the images? I take photos with a digital compact Fuji X10 and repeat the shot with a vintage 1950's Voigtlander 35mm film camera, and examine the difference between the images. Not a scientific test, but a fun one, looking to find out whether film is dead, or whether it still has a place in the camera bag for fine art shooters.

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@stephanweiskorn6760
@stephanweiskorn6760 Месяц назад
Excellent video 😮!
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Месяц назад
Thank you very much!
@arricammarques1955
@arricammarques1955 3 года назад
Film cameras & SLR's have a personality. Digital looks sharp & boring.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
There are a lot of people who would agree with that Monsieur, film is definitely not dead. I like to spend time being negative sometimes 🎞 haha, see what I did there ....
@tbsq1114
@tbsq1114 7 месяцев назад
The personality is within the artist, not the gear
@werewolfmanjackal
@werewolfmanjackal 7 месяцев назад
@@rileyphotos To be fair, it all depends on the type of black and white film and the developer used when processing it. I've been into film for 48 years. It's always good to have your negatives as not only a hard copy, but as a poor man's copyright.
@oblivion_007
@oblivion_007 Месяц назад
By just looking at the new digital camera images of famous photographer, steve mccurry, I can confirm this.. Digital photography suxx artistically.Its not good for photo journalism too.They good for advertisements, films and other areas where super sharp images are required.
@stephenwhited1833
@stephenwhited1833 3 года назад
I am confused, did you process for that much grain? I shoot an old Agfa ambi sillette or my Kodak Hawkeye rainbow. I shoot FP4 or 5 and process at box speed in D-76. I don't get near the grain you do. I scan my negatives on an epson scanner at a moderate size as a jpeg. Until you enlarge it about 200 times it is difficult to tell from my Canon Rebel. Just curious.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Hi Stephen, thanks for your comment. The short answer is yes, although not in processing, it was HP5 processed in Ilfotec, all standard, but I did up the contrast after the scans, to get the desired ultra grain look that I like so much. The cameras used were both very cheap second hand cameras, and the idea was to show new photographers, particularly ones with a tighter budget, that they could go for different look with film even if they were strapped for cash. It has been pointed out by lots of people in the comments section that film could be as fine as digital, which of course it can, but it wouldn’t have made a very interesting video if I had shot the images to look the same. Heavy grain is something I love about film, and I prefer the film images in almost all the shots. I would like to thank you for being the first in the comments section to realise that the images were exaggerated to give effect. They were meant to look different. Thanks again for watching Stephen, and for noticing the intention, I very much appreciate it 👏📷😊
@stephenwhited1833
@stephenwhited1833 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos 📷
@mysty0
@mysty0 Год назад
@@stephenwhited1833 I think this is what happens when you use an ISO 200 Film and set you Camera for 400.. over exposed pictures producing grain
@RobertLeeAtYT
@RobertLeeAtYT Год назад
What you’re really demonstrating is the technical inferiority of film. Had these film photos been taken on 6x7 MF film camera, the final image would have been indistinguishable (with exception to differences in DoF) from the digital capture. Fundamentally, if you limit negative enlargement to 3x linearly and less, the film image would be equally sharp, grainless and “souless” as digital.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
You’re right, and I could have lugged a 10x8 plate camera over the beach 🤣 Seriously though, it was just a bit of fun with 2 cameras under a £100 budget. If I find a 6x7 camera under £100 I’ll be very happy to include it. Thanks for watching, I appreciate it 👍🏻
@RobertLeeAtYT
@RobertLeeAtYT Год назад
@@rileyphotos Unfortunately, those days are long gone. I had been a heavy 6x7 user, but that was ~15 years ago. Back then photographers couldn't get rid of film gear fast enough. Picked up a couple of RB-67 for $100/ea. Had a Koni-Omega 6x7 press camera. All good stuff. I also spent $2k on a Nikon CS9000 film scanner, but we don't count that in the budget. Anyhow, I did use to lug that RB-67 kit into the field. Body, lenses, film backs, tripod meant a 20kg bag. That was no fun, but the results certainly exceeded digital of the time. These days? I like my micro-4/3 kits a lot.
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 4 месяца назад
I've never appreciated or liked film grain. The grain is dirty and distracting. It's not how the human eye sees the world.
@jamescole322
@jamescole322 24 дня назад
Shows how impressive the little Fuji X10 is with it's small 2/3" sensor and 12mp!
@scotthullinger4684
@scotthullinger4684 Год назад
I was a medium format film wedding photographer for a few years. I've also owned one sort of digital camera or another for a few decades. And as much as I truly love my digital cameras ... well, I must say that the image quality from film is SO far superior on a grand scale, especially when you expose your negatives precisely, when you use a low ISO film, and when you use a full quality professional lab for your final results. The only problems ... ? The cost of film and developing, and the inability to enhance with Photoshop when necessary if you have no way of scanning your negatives.
@mgtowpia7298
@mgtowpia7298 3 года назад
Unfair comparison, you keep pointing out the grain of the film but failed to say which film stock or developer you used, both of these are relevent. I have a Nikon D800 (36Mp) and a Canon A1, with a fine grain film I can easily take far sharper and more detailed photos with the A1 than the D800 is capable of achieving.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Oh dear, the lack of technical detail seems to have bothered you, My apologies for that. Viewers to my channel will know that I tend to take a less technical view of photography, and this review was aimed at viewers with less budget, which is why I pitched a £20 second hand Voigtlander against a second hand old Fuji x10. Both very affordable for new photographers on a budget. I’m afraid a D800 would have been too expensive for this light hearted look at the extremely different look someone could achieve highlighting grain with an old film camera. Just a bit of fun for those unfamiliar with film. Hope you enjoy the D800 and A1, thanks for watching and for your comments, they are most welcome and much appreciated, 📷😊
@richardchaitt774
@richardchaitt774 3 года назад
My point exactly. Looks like a very high speed film, underexposed and overdeveloped. If the Digital was shot at ISO 125, then the film should have been shot on Plus-X or the Iford equivalent.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Haha, Richard I’ve been a pro photographer since 1984, so I think I can safely say that even I have nailed how to expose a photo by now. 🤣 There was no under exposure and over deving, just a light hearted look at the extremes of both film and digital with some very cheap used gear, and a large dollop of fun. Thanks for watching and commenting, it’s much appreciated 👏📷😊
@TheSoulOfGenius
@TheSoulOfGenius 2 года назад
@@rileyphotos if you didn’t push this filmstock I’m very impressed by the contrast. Would love to know what you shot. I enjoyed the video!
@petemulhearn7787
@petemulhearn7787 Год назад
Ye gods! What sort of film were you using? Its got grain like lumps of coal. I cut my teeth on B&W film in the 1960s and the only way I could get that awful grain was by cropping and using high ISO film. To get around lumpy grain I used Ilford FP4 100 ASA and cooked it with Microphen or Promicrol developer.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
It was HP5 delved in Ilfotec. I used red and orange filters on a couple to crank up the grain effect, the point being to show the difference in the look at extremes. I could have used a low iso low grain film stock but then they wouldn’t have looked a great deal different to the digital images and the point was to show the effect that film could achieve when pushed hard, like Brandt , Moriama or Bresson favoured. Thanks for watching and commenting Pete, I really appreciate your feedback 👍🏻
@darkplanetmoon
@darkplanetmoon 6 месяцев назад
Digital captures an image; film captures a mood. Every time.
@stevep2430
@stevep2430 Год назад
Film quality all depends on what grain structure, how it is metered, how you use the results of metering in regard to what is important to you , shadows or highlights. What type of chemicals it processed in, I could go on. Film photography is a skill , a learning process and art which is sadly being killed by the digital era. Yes digital takes great photos, but in the hands of of a person who truely understands the film process, it cannot be beat.
@cc_323cc
@cc_323cc Год назад
Fun video thanks 👍. There is a place for film & there is a small film resurgence going on….i think digital & film have their place. Depends on the subject matter and what the photographer is going for. There are plenty of filters and you can fake old film looks but I don’t think that’s the point. I shoot film because it’s challenging and fun. I like the look of my old 120 40s-50s folders. Shooting on those non-zoom lens cameras has re-taught me patience. Before I got back into film i wud just machine gun my cell or a digital camera because it was easy and pixels are cheep. Now with vintage film camera I forced to walk around the subject. Take my time explore many more angels before I spend $2 on A Film picture. Often finding a better composition than i wud have with digital because I slowed down and walked around.
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 2 месяца назад
35mm is garbage. Every video i see comparing 35mm film to digital, the digital is way better. And your using a digital camera with a 2/3" (8.8mmx6.6mm) sensor which is around 4x smaller than the 35mm frame. So the film should have the advantage here.
@m.bauer2024
@m.bauer2024 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate the comparison and I have to say, that from these pictures I prefer the digital ones in all the cases.
@truefilm6991
@truefilm6991 3 года назад
Thanks for making this video. Even with this rather grainy stock and format: film simply looks fantastic. Everything looks more precious, timeless and gorgeous.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Thank you for that comment, I really appreciate it. I still love shooting film, there’s just no digital filter than can replicate the look of heavy grain, which I love. I should maybe, have been clearer that I could have chosen a film stock that would have been much closer to digital, but I wanted to show the difference at more the more extreme end to show beginers what could be achieved. One viewer likened the film/digital images to analog/digital in music. Crisp and clear vs warmth and feeling, which is I think a good comparison. Thanks again for watching 👏📷😊
@truefilm6991
@truefilm6991 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos you are welcome.of course film is so much more than just grain. Yes, the music comparison is excellent. I am a musician/producer and most music styles still call for that "analog" sound, to get punch, soul, a heart and purpose.
@UP209D
@UP209D 15 часов назад
the dynamic range and contrast from film is so pleasing at 2:12
@dennyoconnor8680
@dennyoconnor8680 8 месяцев назад
To bad the guy shooting film doesn't know what he is doing. Looks almost like the combination of lens, film and developer were selected to create chalk and soot with boulder size grain. I shoot both digital and film and I can only get chalk and soot with film by making a monumental effort to get it. Tri-X shot at 400 and developed with Xtol and printed on #2 paper will give smooth tones and a full grey scale.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 8 месяцев назад
Oh dear, Perhaps I wasn’t clear, I do apologise. I DID make a monumental effort to create a look as far away as possible from a digital image. That was the point. It was about having fun, Not to worry. Thanks for watching all the same, 👍🏻
@allisonhess728
@allisonhess728 10 месяцев назад
I think that this is a really interesting comparison of vintage versus modern photography, however I’m not sure that it is an accurate comparison of film versus digital. I think the true way to compare the two would be to use equally similar cameras. I shoot film on a canon élan seven and I also sometimes use a canon 40 D digital. I personally never shoot in anything but manual mode. I learned on a fully manual Pentax K 1000 years ago in college. I think to get a true comparison you would need to shoot both at the same shutter aperture and film speed. I personally find that film always wins for me artistically. It could be that it is the Celtic for me to really have to work for an image. Sometimes digitally I will take several pictures and look at them after. However when shooting film I really have to look at the scene see where the light is falling on the subject in the background. I recently did a show where I chose 12 of my favorite images that I’ve ever taken. I sat there looking at them trying to figure out why I had chosen those 12, and it suddenly occurred to me that they were all shot on film. I feel that as amazing as digital cameras art and an art form into themselves there is a lack of depth to that. I was looking at 90 year old pictures of my grandmother the other day and as I flipped the page it occurred to me the only reason those pictures were around was because of the silver they were processed . They were still wild slightly faded very much alive in my opinion while personally I do prefer felt it has a lot to do with my personal style and subject matter as well as The fact that it challenges me to not be lazy. I will say that there are digital photographers who have mastered all of the functions of their camera and it is an art form into itself. I think perhaps it has to do with the fact that I am never excited to get in front of the computer. However going into the dark room I am always ready to rely on technical skills as well as artistic skills. It really is a personal preference but again I feel to accurately compare the two they would need to be on similar cameras shot on the exact same settings. Well all of those pictures are beautiful I could create differences such as those with both film and digital. For me there is always something that comes alive when after all of your test strips you drop the first full print in and watch it appear before you. I will say though even in digital I rarely do more in editing than I could’ve done in a dark room.
@schlurpie
@schlurpie 2 месяца назад
agree. it also seems like this guy chose the cheapest quality b&w film that's also expired 😂
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 3 года назад
The Nikon D3s and the D700 (In my opinion) combine the best of both. .. I shoot on a Fuji X-T2 and I just recently purchased a Nikon D3s .. the way they the Nikon handles light has absolutely blown me away. I mean REALLY blew me away. The D3s's secret weapon is in how it handles light. Same with the D700 .. I have yet to see ANY modern Digital camera that even comes close. People get caught up in image resolution which distracts from composition and light... The Images in the film camera capture emotion. There's something visceral about the Film images.. I have to pinch myself about the fact that I even bought the D3s. ..It's not something you can even put into words.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Haha, the D3s certainly has a spell which it puts on you. There’s something very satisfying about holding that camera and the way it records light, you’re right about that. Enjoy 👍🏻
@jharrelphoto
@jharrelphoto Год назад
Agreed! I’ve been using a d700 for a couple years now and it’s just a stunning camera. I personally believe it is the best digital camera ever made. The photos are just so superb to my eyes. I primarily shoot film but when I want a go with digital for a walk I take the d700.
@inquireintothehigher
@inquireintothehigher 11 месяцев назад
I agree. After shooting film as a photo journalist during the 80s and 90s, I also now shoot a D700 for digital. Great compromise between film and digital for me. I'm curious about the lenses your using with it? Cheers@@jharrelphoto
@daniellamarche689
@daniellamarche689 8 месяцев назад
Wow grain the size of popcorn ? This comparison is flawed.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 8 месяцев назад
Flawed but funny, that was the point 😄 Thanks for watching
@jimmcd1101
@jimmcd1101 День назад
This is a HUGELY deceptive video. You've underexposed all the film images, the film camera looks like it is either damaging the rolls near the top of the screen by putting some weird marks there, the grain is super pronounced - I shoot Tri-X at 400 ISO and the images are far more clean. They're never going to be as crisp and highly resolved as digital - thankfully - but they're a lot better looking than these truly awful film shots, which are incorrectly exposed/or badly scanned and have the kind of grain you get from pushing B&W at least two stops.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos День назад
Luckily Jim, as the great photographer Bill Brandt teaches us, Photography is not a sport, there are no rules. You like fine grain, I like large grain. Nothing wrong with that. I think grain can be used as part of the image. I love it. But not your thing, that’s okay. Art is subjective. I could have chosen a film and chemistry to take images indistinguishable from digital, but that would really have been a bit of a dull video for me. Thanks for watching though, much appreciated 👍🏻
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 3 года назад
What a totally stupid comparison. Of course there's a bloody difference when you use a very high ISO film as you have. You could at least have used a lower ISO film so the grain wasn't quite so obvious. Bonkers
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Oh dear, my video seems to have really upset you Mike, I do apologise for that. You’re right, I could have used an ultra low ISO film, or even a 10x8 plate camera, and the images would have been very similar, although, comparing images that look the same wouldn’t have been so much fun, and the emphasis of the video was definitely fun. It didn’t take itself too seriously. I chose two second hand very low budget cameras and a set them both to 400 ISO. Wouldn’t have been fair to have different ISOs. It would be like Top Gear comparing electric v petrol cars and putting a Nissan Leaf against a Bugatti Veyron 🤣 Thank you though Mike for watching my video and taking the time to comment, all opinions are valid and I’ll bear it in mind next time I do one on film. Cheers 👏📷😊
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos So, you're saying the film is 400 ISO. Which film and what sort of processing as it looks incredibly grainy ? I've shot plenty of 400 film with much less grain. What pisses me off is that you seem to want to make the point of showing that digital is such a great way to go and then use techniques to prove your point. But do whatever you want of course but.....
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
The film stock was Ilford HP5 and I developed it myself in Ilfotec, something I have done tens of thousands of times, I started my professional photography career in 1984 when we only had black and white film in Newspapers. You need to remember the fun part of this light hearted challenge was the cameras, and the film was shot on a 1950’s Voigtlander, not a high end camera, even back in its day. I would say, that the video at no point tries to say digital is better, but just points out that at extremes, can produce a different look. I use digital and film regularly and love them both. I shoot film in my Leicas, Nikons, Mamiya and Voigtlander and very much enjoy the look and the process. The point of the video was to show some cheap cameras taking fun pictures in different ways. Not to ascertain which was better. Neither film ir digital is better in my opinion, just different. Thanks again for watching and commenting, it’s much appreciated 👍🏻📷😊
@MikeKleinsteuber
@MikeKleinsteuber 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos OK fair enough, though I think, intended or not, it comes across that digital is way better than film because of the terrible film shots. Can I suggest you do another comparison with low ISO Fuji Acros or Kodak XP2 that balance up your previous crap film stills ?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
I’m interested that you believe film is only good if you can’t see the grain Mike. To me, it’s what makes film so special, I love to see the grain, in fact, I would go as far as to say I look for it with my film photography. Perhaps that’s why I consider the film shots in this video to be superior to the digital shots, and you don’t. But the world would be a dull place if we all liked the same things. Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder. Now, I have some film stock in the fridge so I’m off out to take some more crap images 🤣 Great hearing back from you Mike, I love talking photography, cheers 👏📷
@jbar100
@jbar100 6 месяцев назад
If I was shooting people for character I would definately shoot film for a wedding where everyone wants to look pretty it has to be digital. Iwas thinking geez that is really grainy and thought it was the equipment cause my Nikon's from the 60's 70's don't do that. But I see your comment below and how you exagerated the difference.
@jmoffitt36
@jmoffitt36 2 месяца назад
A better comparison would be using a modern full frame against a 35mm and use the same vintage lens
@edwardschlosser4532
@edwardschlosser4532 11 дней назад
You've pretty much shown why this concert photographer shoots 35 mm film. Film is vastly superior to digital for anything from weddings to low light concert photography. However, while most of my vintage cameras can shoot landscapes, they can't do anything like my 1995 Nikon N90s. You spent $6500 for your D6? I spent $50 for my N90s, and my photos look better than yours.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 11 дней назад
Who bought the D6 Ed, it wasn’t me?
@Flburr99
@Flburr99 5 месяцев назад
2024- Film is still alive! Long live film! (and there are professionals still shooting on film as well)
@nicholassheffo5723
@nicholassheffo5723 8 месяцев назад
The digital monochrome is not as good as the best photochemical b/w as most digital cannot get as black or even white, depending not the stock and brand.
@kenmccoll348
@kenmccoll348 23 дня назад
Hmmm, I think for someone with no experience in using film they would come away with the idea that digital is superior in every way. You are not demonstrating like for like, you are demonstrating a sensor versus film but implying that it is camera versus camera. What you are really demonstrating is how technology has advanced. I can assure you that any knowledgeable film photographer could choose a film AND DEVELOPER combination that would equal if not surpass the Fuji X10. It is an interesting exercise but not a valid comparison. I shoot with 3 different digitals (Fuji, Canon, Sony) and love them all. I also shoot 35 mm and medium format (Canon, Minolta, Zorki, Fed, Bronica, Mamiya, Pentax) and love them equally. A quality B&W film stock in say Spur Acurol N would show what film quality is really all about.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 23 дня назад
Thanks for watching and commenting Ken, I really appreciate it 👍🏻 As a pro photographer since 1984 I’ve shot a lot of film professionally so I know only to well that I could have chosen a film stock , chemistry and camera combination that would have made the images look indistinguishable from digital. But alas, I think it would have been a pretty dull RU-vid film had they looked the same. I purposefully chose two cheap vintage cameras, and tried to make them look as different as possible for a bit of fun. After all, Master Photographers like Bill Brandt loved to see the grain, and as the great man said “Photography is not a sport, there are no rules”. If you like grain (like me) they enjoy it, if you like super fine, then enjoy that too. There’s room for everyone 😁 Thanks again for watching 👏👏👏
@georgevp
@georgevp 20 дней назад
I do oddly miss film allot, mainly because I was a b/w mainly in the shade portrait shooter. I also miss the mistakes, all the darkroom tricks, special effects and toning. Still, I don't miss spotting. How did you get a square image with a 35mm?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 20 дней назад
It’s just cropped square George to fit on the screen together. You’re right, it is nice to shoot film now and again 👍🏻
@hokeypokeypo
@hokeypokeypo 3 года назад
As a subscriber I sadly have to offer some quick feedback. THIS IS RUBBISH! Even though you say "this is just for fun" you have completely misrepresented potential of some film stocks and modern lenses to equal or surpass some mid level prosumer cameras in clarity and character. First off, why not shoot something with low grain like Ilford Pan F 50 with a "modern" lens such as a Leica Summicron 50 or even a multicoated Nikon oe Canon lens. Secondly, your vintage Voigt lens simply CANNOT equal the resolution capabilities of modern lenses, even "kit" lenses. Thirdly, you say "no professional" photographer would shoot film....WHAT???? I cannot image why you would make such a misinformed blanket statement. It is still WIDELY agreed that a well exposed, low grain film, properly scanned, 120 film image is more than competitive with most digital images, even in 2020. Please do not do any more " lazy" videos on film. Next time if you shoot iso 400 film on a 60year old camera at LEAST bump the iso on the digital UP to 800-1600 to get a fair grain comparison. I like your channel but come on mate. Film is not dead yet but vids like this dont help. Be well.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Dear A Cobb, please don’t hold back, I want you to tell me exactly what you think 🤣🤣🤣 haha, seriously, I am very grateful for you commenting, ALL views are welcome on my channel and wouldn’t life be boring if we all thought the same way? I assure you the video wasn’t lazy, but an attempt to show extremes of image making, and to show some less experienced photographers how film can differ from digital. I’m a busy professional photographer and am proud to work for some of the largest blue chip companies in the world. That said, as a subscriber, for which I thank you humbly, you’ll know that I’m keen to spread the joy of photography to those with less capital they they would wish. I therefore often choose second hand equipment to which is reasonably priced, to encourage everyone to know that photography is not an elitist art. I gave myself the budget of £100 or less to buy these cameras for the review. You’re right, I could have gone out with a 10x8 plate loaded with 50 and produced ultra fine grain, but I doubt images that looked the same would have been so much fun. Perhaps I should have been clearer that this was not a definitive test. For bringing that to my attention I am indeed grateful to you. I am lucky to have worked with some of this countries finest photographers, and I can say, hand on heart, that I don’t know one that would use film stock for a commercial job, only fine art these days I’m afraid. The necessity to get the photos back to the clients almost as soon as they are captured makes film, developing and scanning too much of a luxury which commercial forces won’t allow. Maybe photographers working in other areas have a different experience. The video intended to be more entertainment and less technical, and I hope it’s taken in the fun spirit in which I offer it. I stand by the images, and in many cases, I preferred the look of the vintage film camera. One thing I always aim to do on the channel, which I notice is often missing in other videos, is to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I never hide behind technical data, instead, I show my photography, because for me, that’s what it’s all about. Thank you once again for both watching, subscribing and commenting, I love to talk photography. Many best wishes, 📷👍🏻
@hokeypokeypo
@hokeypokeypo 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos understood. I did not mean your effort in the making or concept of the video was " lazy". I very much appreciate the time it takes to film and edit even a short video. Keep the vids coming. I find you one of the most watchable photo related content creators. My point was simply new photographers, i mean really new ones may not fully understand that sharp, minimal grain, wide tonality images can be done with 35 and 120 film stocks that come somewhat close to entry and prosumer digital cameras. I think we more or less agree on that. No comment back is needed. I look forward to your future content.
@evefox864
@evefox864 3 года назад
Dear A Cobb: Your review is RUBBISH
@myblueandme
@myblueandme Месяц назад
Wow analog is beautiful but why your digital compositions/framings are poor? Also you could have recovered highlights in digital shots
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Месяц назад
My goodness, thank you for your comments. If you could give me some help on better composition that would be great. Where can I see your images? I’ve been a professional photographer for 40 years. I bought my house and raised a family all through my photography work for some of the world biggest companies. With better composition I will be able to achieve even more. This is great. Do you have a website where I can view some of your images?
@peterculkin811
@peterculkin811 3 месяца назад
I hate to join in with the criticism, but my concern is your claim to show photography newbies the difference between film and digital. By using different focal lengths, red and orange filters with the film camera, developing for high contrast and grain, etc, you have given a false impression. Some of the comments, expressing preferences for either film or digital, based on your images, show that such individuals have been misled. I have been a keen photographer since the mid seventies, occasionally even making some money from paid jobs. It took me a very long time to move to digital, mainly because I wasn't convinced and digital winning on resolution. I mostly used 35mm, but did have 6x6, and mostly Contax cameras with Zeiss glass. Eventually I started scanning on a Minolta Scan Elite 5400, which I still have. When I first moved to digital it was with Sony A900 with 24Mp sensor. Back in the day, most people couldn't tell if I took same shot on 35mm and digital and printed it to A3 size, which was digital and which was film. I'm not saying to the trained eye that there is no difference, but by creating obvious differences and then implying that that's the difference between film and digital, you are misleading the uninitiated. I have acquired quite a few high quality compact 35mm film cameras over recent years, because I really enjoy film. You can't on the one hand say that you created obvious differences as a bit of fun and on the other hand say that you were attempting to educate, guide newbies as to the differences. Sorry to be critical.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 месяца назад
Oh Peter, that’s a really in depth response, thank you. I hope you’re enjoying your photography, best wishes 👍🏻
@andrewcroft2570
@andrewcroft2570 4 месяца назад
Great video however, I have to completely disagree with you. I shoot a lot of portraits using film and I use either my Rolleiflex model t with a Carl Zeiss 75mm or Mamyia 645 Super with the Seko 80mm f2.8 or the Sekor C 80mm f/1.9 which you will know are both 6x6 format. The grain is hardly noticeable if you are using film such as Kodak Portra400 or Kodak Tri-X it looks to me like you used Ilford HP5 for your pictures, but I could be wrong. Have a look at Tyler Shiels pictures, which I think over 95% are shot using mostly medium and large format, there is not a grain to be seen anywhere. Still love your channel though, keep up the good work.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 4 месяца назад
Thanks for your comments Andrew. I’m glad to hear that you are making a living shooting portraits on film, that’s a hard thing to do these days, most pros find it isn’t cost effective and leave film to the enthusiasts so credit to you for that. The video you watched was using HP5 developed in Ilfotec and was shot on a cheap 50’s camera, hence, I was able to show newbies the difference at extremes that could be obtained in trying to create an ultra film look as different to digital imagery as possible. I could have used a low grain portrait film with my Hasselblad but then both digital and film images would have looked almost identical and I couldn’t see the point in that. Thanks again for watching, and congrats on the film work 👍🏻 cheers Phil
@arneheeringa96
@arneheeringa96 Год назад
Just stumbled on your videos. Judging from the pictures you're probably a digital photographer, because you'll have to expose them differently. Saw a comparison between Leica M Monochrom and Leica Tri-X just before and film pics did look better due to the grain. But in my opinion this is only for BW because I think in colour SOOC Jpegs (compacts don't do anything else) do look better than film.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Hi Arne, thank you for watching my video and your comments. Am I a digital photographer? Well it depends on which bit of my career we’re looking at. I started as a professional photographer in 1984 and was definitely a full on film photographer because there was no digital back then. Then there was a period when I shot film but after processing I scanned the negatives in, and these days yes, everything I do professionally is shot on digital cameras. I’ve never exposed film and digital differently though, for me, exposure is either right or wrong, the only difference I suppose is that digital gives me instant feedback so being able to nudge the expose up or down slightly is much easier. The look that film grain gives is definitely different to digital, even to the digital film simulation, and I’d encourage anyone with the time, money and curiosity to explore photography in this very special medium. Thanks again for watching, it’s much appreciated, cheers Phil 📷😊
@arneheeringa96
@arneheeringa96 Год назад
@@rileyphotos Thank you so much. Yes developing film and making prints is such a nice process! I wouldn't like to miss it. I am a little younger than you then, but started at 11 with my first camera in 1983. What I've learned from digital BW photograpers like Alan Schaller is that they tend to underexpose and fix the shadows in post, as digital keeps the shadows better than they keep the highlights. With film it's the other way around, they tend to keep highlights better than shadows. So in cases of backlight as in the grain field one gives more exposure than the lightmeter tells us. The uncle of my ex-wife was a very good amateur that loved backlight. In about 1955 he bought a new Zeiss Contessa (the expensive original one) and switched from BW to colour diapositives. His picture of a wood at sunrise directly into the sun... it has blown me away...
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Backlight, such a great technique, and not always easy to pull off. And definitely the reason everyone should have a lens hood attached! It's great to hear that someones photograph had such a memorable effect on you, what an honour to have taken a photograph all that time ago and still have us talking about it now. You're right now that I think about it, we did always shoot bw negative a little on the over side, because it was always easier to push more light through a thick neg than trying to recover a thin one. Thanks again for watching and taking the time to comment, I really do appreciate it. cheers. Phil
@arneheeringa96
@arneheeringa96 Год назад
@@rileyphotos Thanks a lot Phil and have a great time shooting! Here's a video illustrating digital is better underexposed and film overexposed: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-idepJM8iHpY.html
@eddyjcreative100
@eddyjcreative100 Год назад
SHooting film iget mto undrstand my workand what i get out of it..one try one shot prefer film but digital is long way second.. Mr Rileyphoto. ty .
@weementaldavy5987
@weementaldavy5987 4 месяца назад
Not a true comparison at all , why didn't you go the whole hog and find the grainiest film on the market ? and not getting it developed at a proper lab didn't help neither . I've noticed before with these digital and film comparisons, they alway manipulate the film to look inferior because they know that film would win.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 4 месяца назад
Of course I went for extremes. It was a 70 year old budget camera with home development. We are showing beginners the differences at extremes. I could have chosen an ultra fine film grain, shot it on my Hasselblad, and done a ‘film looks exactly the same as digital’ video. But honestly I can’t see the point of that? Not all photography is about sharpness and detail. Some of the most iconic images of the twentieth century had grain like boulders and very little detail. Sometimes film is preferred for the effect you simply can’t replicate in digital. The joy of analogue. I’m not sure I see the point in trying to achieve film shots that look like digital ones. But I get that some like to shoot film in ultra detail, and there is space for all of us in the photography world, so I appreciate your comments, I can see where you’re coming from, and let’s celebrate our different opinions on what we love about shooting film. Thanks for the watch and the comment, I really do appreciate it 👍🏻
@gerhardbotha7336
@gerhardbotha7336 6 месяцев назад
Shooting digital is easier only in the sense that you don’t need to mess with chemicals. If you are not a caveman, you shoot RAW and you expose for the highlights- because digital blows highlights easily. That shot will look crap in camera. Then you process it. You apply the desired colour science etc. And you get what you want. I find methods like Darktable filmic gives me that film like look very well. I’m not advocating things like removing things and adding clouds etc. I’m talking about colour, contrast, tonality and of course removing or adding noise. Those are the tools at your disposal in digital and a stupid camera can never imagine what you have in mind when you take the shot, so use those tools.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 6 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate it. You’re right, digital is easier because there is no chemistry or waiting, but the real strength to its bow is the instant feedback. You will be used to taking an image and reviewing immediately, altering exposure or lighting and reshooting. It’s part of the digital process. But I challenge anyone, just try, just for a week, to not review a single image. Reverse the screen to point inwards if it can, pop a little tape over the review button, but don’t damage anything. Then shoot for a week without the ability to look at a single shot until you’re home in front of the computer. Now that really is like shooting film 😁
@Narsuitus
@Narsuitus 8 месяцев назад
Not only are you comparing film vs. digital; but you are also comparing images taken with different lighting, prime lens vs. zoom lens, and different foreground/background relationships. Also, @2:48 you say it is a photo of a corn field. Isn't that a wheat field?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 8 месяцев назад
It wasn’t a technical review, it was just a bit of fun, but I must admit, I’m very impressed at your agricultural knowledge. I guess you really know the wheat from the chaff, bravo 👏, thanks for watching, we really appreciate it 👍🏻
@andynonimuss6298
@andynonimuss6298 4 месяца назад
I've never appreciated or liked film grain. The grain is dirty and distracting. It's not how the human eye sees the world.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 4 месяца назад
That’s an interesting point. For some photography is only a two dimensional capture of a real life scene, only to be captured as the eye would see it. For others it is a medium to explore art, and to create a representation of a scene, a mood, a feeling, rather than a copy. This question would also spill into art itself, for instance, we enjoy cinema who’s talented colour graders show us the mood of a scene to create effect, it looks nothing like the reality the eye would see. Without expression we would have galleries full of photo realistic paintings, and would miss out on the wonderful richness of Monet, Renoir and Van Gogh just to name a couple. I welcome the use of photography in many different guises and encourage everyone to explore them with freedom, without boundaries and with a realisation that Photography is not a sport, their is no rule book, everything is right and nothing is wrong. Thank you for your comment, it’s really valuable and it sparks an interesting debate, oh, and thanks for watching too, I really appreciate it 👍🏻
@markgoostree6334
@markgoostree6334 Год назад
I didn't catch it... what was the film speed and what was the ISO? I just wasn't sure how this compared.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Hi Mark, film speed is measured in ISO and the film used was Ilford HP5 which is a 400 ISO film. Cheers Phil
@Analogbrain
@Analogbrain Год назад
Nice video! It's not one film look, there are several! My favourite is color slide film, and that's completely different.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Totally agree! That’s a good point, I should have said black and white film. Enjoy your Colour transparency photography, great fun. Nothing like a nice bit of Velvia for a landscape 👍🏻
@AdamJonesPhoto
@AdamJonesPhoto 2 месяца назад
Prefer the look of film everytime
@jamesheath9089
@jamesheath9089 7 месяцев назад
I appreciate you're attempting here, but it's a very poor and unfair comparison. Forget the huge difference in camera, the film images are horribly under exposed, the grain has been pushed up. I've seen black&white images that while not able to do what a digital camera will do they are good enough to produce good quality, artistic images you're be happy to own.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for your comments James, I think I may have missed the mark, it was meant as a bit of fun, nothing scientific, not too serious, just a laugh with a couple of old vintage bits of kit. Not to worry, my channel is a bit tongue in cheek, not for everyone, but thanks for giving it a watch 👍🏻
@ionluv
@ionluv 7 месяцев назад
This video is super confusing. If you went out of your way to make the film grainier for the look why didn’t you do the same on the Fuji? Black and white film can be way less grainier than that. This seems intentional and for no reason.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 7 месяцев назад
Fun Trofy, it was for fun 🤣🤣🤣
@mackysobrevega1780
@mackysobrevega1780 5 месяцев назад
Looks as though the film images where heavily pushed or edited in post. Not even ASA 6400 looks that grainy
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 5 месяцев назад
Not pushed or edited, just a very cheap 60 year old camera, but I did use orange and red filters to exaggerate the contrast and grain as they did back in the day. That was the fun part. The video wasn’t trying to show how similar they can be, I could have made that video and got them almost identical, but it was to show beginners the different effects at the extremes. I can assure you though that 400ASA film can look that grainy. We are used to exceptional glass these days, but when I turned pro in 1984, we had much poorer manual lenses, and covering a dimly lit football match in the rain produced some images far grainier than the ones in this video. Thanks for watching and commenting btw, I really appreciate it 👍🏻
@fontenbleau
@fontenbleau Год назад
Digital hiding all imperfections
@stuartrushworth5487
@stuartrushworth5487 3 года назад
A very interesting video. The film images have brought back memories of figures in old hand-me-down encyclopedias in my childhood. I feel the film is more dramatic and atmospheric, but the digital delivers a crisper image that I am familiar with, since I own a Fuji X camera. Film is almost the visual equivalent of a musical instrument, whereas digital has a mathematical precision and silence.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Thank you for those comments Stuart, what a nice analogy, film being like musical instruments. There is a similarity I would say between film and digital imagery and Analog and digital sound recordings. The MP3/CD vs Vinyl debate. One having clarity and glass like precision and the other having depth and warmth. Thank you for such an interesting thought, and of course for watching the video. I really appreciate it 👏📷😊
@player234145
@player234145 Год назад
To make it short...B&W digital is bull.....it. No matter how hard you try.
@deepin2urheart
@deepin2urheart 4 месяца назад
why the hell all these pics are in black and white Film camera also.take color photos
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 4 месяца назад
They do, hells bells, that’s awesome, where can I get camera film in colour 😳
@petlof64
@petlof64 2 года назад
The digital looks great but most of the pictures taken with film looks more interesting. So wich is best? Great nice looking picture, or the more interesting one? Im not sure :-)
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 2 года назад
I know what you mean Peter, the digital image is so much more convenient but to put a roll of film in occasionally is so satisfying, and the digital effects just can’t replicate that film look. All good fun, thanks for watching 👏📷😊
@walkingoutdoor6620
@walkingoutdoor6620 Год назад
Digital is a movie watched on a netflix and film is a story told by your dad at the camp fire.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
That’s a great way of looking at it, bravo 👏
@crustybaker2633
@crustybaker2633 Год назад
Film everyday all day.
@Thesweaterfactory
@Thesweaterfactory Год назад
Digital is just too sharp now. Too clinical and soulless. Film is much more natural and has a look about it, as if you are seeing it with your own eyes.
@8897johnson
@8897johnson 9 месяцев назад
We like both according to our needs of the day
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 9 месяцев назад
That is absolutely the best comment yet. 👍🏻understanding that it’s not an either /or choice, and an appreciation of the differences and qualities of each, is the sign of an accomplished photographer in my book. Bravo 👏
@j.k5654
@j.k5654 Год назад
I love this. I shoot film for the artistic look it gives. I like that it’s less than digital.
@christopherward5065
@christopherward5065 7 месяцев назад
With film you need to previsualise the final look of the image you want to create and make decisions that create good negatives that are flexible. On an overcast day I would be using the film with incident metering at iso 640. Meter for mid tones and detail. Possibly use a yellow filter for more sky tonality. Developer would be something like dilute ID11 or D76 to increase acutance and tonality then a better comparison could be made with the digital camera files. The resulting negatives can be scanned into Lightroom and digital post-production would have yielded excellent images. Your comparison would have been more interesting. You limited the tonal range and the resolution too much with your treatment. The results were far from the best that you could achieve with the equipment and materials you chose. Your approach hobbled the analogue images in reality. There’s much more to monochrome film capture and production than your results and conclusions suggest.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 7 месяцев назад
Hi Christopher. Thanks for your comments. Film was developed in Ilford ID11, scanned in to post production from Adobe, and yellow and orange filters were used. It’s almost like you were watching me 🤣🤣🤣. Thing to remember, is that photography is not a sport - there are no rules - it’s my interpretation of a scene, if you had taken it you would have done it differently, that’s great, we are different photographers, neither of us is right or wrong. Art is subjective. Thanks again for watching, much appreciated 👍🏻
@christopherward5065
@christopherward5065 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely right! We just previsualised for different outcomes.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 7 месяцев назад
Totally agree with you Christopher, it always amazes me that when I’m at a job with other photographers, their images are different to mine, as you say, we have a different picture in our head that we are trying to get out onto the photograph. And there in lies the difference between experienced photographers and inexperienced photographers. The experience allows us to, as you say, pre visualise. Know what we want our image to look like before taking it. I’m glad you brought that up, it’s an important point, and one that new photographers can work on from the start of their shooting journey. Thanks for bringing it up 👍🏻
@garygullikson6349
@garygullikson6349 Год назад
I still have a nice old Minolta SRT-101 film camera with regular, tele, wide and zoom lenses from the 70's when I was a lot younger and more enthused with family and hobby photography. I also have a couple of point and shoot digitals that are OK for casual shooting. After watching some YT videos about resurrecting "good ole" SLR film cameras and seeing the difference in film vs digital image quality, and considering the availability and cost of film and print processing vs digital photography, I'll probably sell my Minolta stuff and buy a nice used digital camera suitable for my modest needs. I also have a Minox C, but can't justify trying to use it. Thanks for this video.
@Michaelajacksonfilms
@Michaelajacksonfilms 2 года назад
film type & Iso? Focal length for the fuji?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 2 года назад
Hi Michael, the film stock was Ilford HP5 (400ISO) and I would have processed it myself in Ilfotec. The Fuji has a 28-112 zoom but I would have matched it to the Voigtlander’s 50mm. Thanks for watching 👏📷😊
@Michaelajacksonfilms
@Michaelajacksonfilms 2 года назад
@@rileyphotos thank you.
@michaelmygind5061
@michaelmygind5061 Год назад
I clearly prefer the film pictures. But of course I’m 64 years old. ❤
@j.k5654
@j.k5654 Год назад
I love the clouds in the 2:30 image on the left (film). That grain makes them delicious 🤤
@dalehammond1749
@dalehammond1749 Год назад
I recently digitalized many 100's of feet of 8mm Home Movie film shot mostly in the 60's. All the way through I kept commenting about the film sure not being up to video quality. Video and film cannot be fairly compared. They're two totally different modes of image preservation. Today video is all the rage and for good reason, it does the job better than film. Once a camera is purchased, it's almost free. The image quality is supremely superior in almost all applications. There are argumentatively those times when film outdoes video but that's all highly debatable. People like to hold on as long as possible to the past. There was something more secure in the "good old days." The fact that that's not true is beside the point. P.S. I love shooting and recovering film but then I'm 75 years old.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Thank you for your comments Dale, you make some very good points. It is difficult to dispute that digital images have superiority when it comes to convenience and function. Speed, cost, efficiency, dynamic range, noise/grain suppression, sharpness, but I do think that digital and film can fairly be compared in one vital area. The outcome. Because however quicker and easier digital is, it’s hard to argue that the final image is exactly the same. Film has a different quality. Once your 8mm home movie is digitised, it will have a very different quality, a different look, than had it have been shot in digital, and that is what some people like I think. In the same way that some like Victorian paintings rather than modern copies, or a Georgian houses rather than new build, even though newly built houses will be much more efficient. You’re right about the nostalgia effect, but then again, nostalgia is not what it used to be 😁(sorry, my jokes don’t get any better). You raise some interesting questions for debate, and it’s great to hear you shoot digital and film and seem to be enjoying both. Long may that continue. Thank you for watching, I really do appreciate it, best wishes Phil
@justice.wilson686
@justice.wilson686 2 года назад
You can make your digital to look like film but cant make film to look like digital. That is 30sec you wont get back.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 2 года назад
That’s a good point, you can make a digital image simulate film but not the other way around, so digital gives you a bit of both, in the same way as shooting colour and de-saturating is perhaps a better option that shooting digital black and white mode, you get the colour and mono version, although, there is something in the way film records images that is noticeably different to how a CCD stores it. Can’t put my finger on it but it’s definitely more than just grain, it’s how it records the light. Thanks for watching and commenting, it’s much appreciated 👍🏻📷
@DeeTeaDee
@DeeTeaDee Год назад
There’s really no comparison for me. Film wins
@gunmetal2445
@gunmetal2445 Год назад
At least I know how photo's taken with this particular camera looks like. I wonder if its a similar case for alot of older cameras?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
The older cameras all have their own look and charm; this one is relatively cheap, but a Leica with a superior lens is going to look much sharper. I suppose you get what you pay for. Thanks for watching and commenting, it’s much appreciated 👍🏻
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 3 года назад
Quite useful and entertaining. Thanks for your efforts. The last one was Fuji. However, I think if you add grain in processing you would be very hard pressed to tell them apart, at least in a video. Film definitely has a place it is its own aesthetic and a different kind of tool. I have to admit though, it is unlikely I will ever use film to the extent I used to, mainly because it is quite involved to deal with the whole process. I noted the other day just how simple, easy, and good were the results from my phone. Easily out classing most films in almost every respect. But film is still an excellent thing to have and use; the more choices and tools the better. Besides there are such wonderful old film cameras and lenses that it would be a complete tragedy were film to become extinct, it would be a real loss to the world, like losing an entire genre of art open to all. That said, the Fuji did a most excellent job, BUT you and I both know IT IS NOT THE CAMERA OR SENSOR OR FIM, but it is the photographer who does the actual "excellent job"; tools do nothing by themselves. Although I know a few tools, mostly in politics, and they are tools of the devil. ;) Best wishes -thanks for your work, God bless!
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
John that is one of the best and most insightful comments I’ve ever had in the channel, you’ve made my day. I couldn’t agree more with everything you said, almost like I wrote it myself ( conspiracy theorists stop now, I didn’t) thank you for taking the time and effort to put these comments down, I hope they will be read by many. I couldn’t agree more with your comments on the photographer being the most important part of the photography. As a relatively new channel, I thought it would be great to post videos about technique and disciplines, but alas, the views in these videos are eclipsed by the occasional review I do on gear! That’s photography ai suppose. Thanks again for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 👏📷😊
@flowatman7988
@flowatman7988 Год назад
Am I wrong to say that the video of the photos we are watching in this video are digital? 🧐
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
No you’re not wrong, but RU-vid is a digital space so they would have to be. If RU-vid was a book, then you could see a non digital printed form, though of course printers still scan the images in to create a printed medium because the printing process is now digitised too. The images were taken on Ilford HP5 film and processed in Ilfotec, then the negatives scanned to digitise then to view. Still an analogue process to capture, still with all limitations of film, and it’s grain structure, just without the darkroom printing process at the end. You are right though, they have been digitised to view on RU-vid, but the scanning process shouldn’t be any different to the enlarger process, both send light through the negative to record a positive image on a light sensitive surface . 👍🏻
@grbbbc
@grbbbc Год назад
Best video I've seen so far on digital v film comparisons, thank you very much, you have a new subscriber.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos Год назад
Welcome aboard! Glad you enjoyed the video, thank you 😊 📷👏
@andrewdewar8159
@andrewdewar8159 Год назад
I like the film ones best
@jensroeckendorf382
@jensroeckendorf382 3 года назад
Interesting comparison. I like the analog film look of the old voigtlaender very much, but I some cases the comparison is very difficuilt and not possible! Because: In the present we prefer more sharp technical good images. But the voigtlaender has more character in the present today. Sometimes the pictures were more exiting, interesting and dramatic. I hope my D3s has something in common with old film cameras. Thanks for this video!
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@fredbloggs545
@fredbloggs545 3 года назад
Fuji X10? It has a tiny 8.8x6.6 mm sensor compared to the 36x24mm. The digital should have been a full frame. You also have to watch the D-Range setting on the X10, it can blow out the sky if on auto and the ISO is low. It would explain the sky being blown out on the shot with the couple. I can't recall if the X10 has D-Range bracketing, if it does then manually set the ISO to 800 and then bracket a shot to get the same image at DR100, DR200 and DR400. Also shoot RAW and play around with shadow and highlight tones. It's been a long time since I played around with the X10, now shooting an X-E3.
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Hey thanks for watching and for writing the comments, it's much appreciated. The fun was to put the £20 vintage camera up against something comparable price wise for beginners with limited budget Fred, so I held back from using a full frame digi because it wouldn't have been a fair fight. I did realise after a viewer sent in a question, that the sky was blown out because I had used a 50mm on one and 28 on the other, to prevent being run over on a blind bend in a country lane, so the viewpoint was different and a white part of the cloud had replaced the grey area of the cloud. Thank you for adding the D-Range technical data. Have fun with the X-E3, a great bit of kit.
@fredbloggs545
@fredbloggs545 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos Yeah don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the comparison non-the-less. :)
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
No worries Fred, anytime, I love to chat about all things photography. Feel free to chip in on whatever you see on my channel, all views are welcome, and you made some great points. Definitely keep the comments coming, cheers
@80Hugoc
@80Hugoc 3 года назад
Image at 5:46: What can explain the highlights under the van (only!) on the film image?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Great question Hugo. The difference in the image shadow area under the van is caused by the fact that the cameras had different length lenses. The film camera was a 50mm so I needed to stand right in the middle of the road (on a blind bend - a passer by was kind enough to watch for traffic for me) and the angle being further away meant I captured some of the non shadow area behind the van. Not wanting to stay in the road any longer than necessary, I shot the Digital image afterwards on a 28mm lens, which put me much closer to the van, a safer place but the higher angle didn’t allow for the light from behind the van to show. It’s probably the same reason the sky detail is darker on the digital too, there must have been a light/dark split in the cloud detail and the lens power meant one lens caught detail and the other was bleached out. Thank you for asking, hope you enjoyed the video, cheers Phil
@80Hugoc
@80Hugoc 3 года назад
@@rileyphotos Thank you very much for your care in explaining it. cheers, hc.
@evefox864
@evefox864 3 года назад
film or digital?
@rileyphotos
@rileyphotos 3 года назад
Digital for me Eve...👍🏻
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