Filtering / Cleaning WVO Waste Vegetable Oil - The REALLY EASY Cubie Method by VOGMAN 

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Commit or don't waste your time -- excellent advice.

+Samuel Gidman Hi Samuel. Yours is a questions I get a lot ; ) To make life easier, I made a video... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-REWBqNzLYgQ.html If you still have any questions, let me know. All the best.

I've often been asked why I don't re-use the cubies and the answer is simple... I have too many. I want rid of the things in truth : ) There's a video on dealing with waste which includes the cubie if you're interested. As for drill size, it doesn't really matter. Small. That's good enough. But 2, 3 or 4mm will work. However if the hole is too small, you'll find it will quickly clog... so it becomes a case of learning as you go. Hope this helps.

Wouldn't be as much fun then Ron : )

@@vogman Being messy is fun for you? To each his own I guess. Any mess I make I also have to clean up myself. I'm not really a fan of cleaning up messes, not even if I made it myself.

Black? And it's veg oil? I really think you need to look at another supplier. This sounds very dirty to me. I wouldn't you it. As for glycerol, sounds like you're making biodiesel there. Personally I've toyed with it, but it was a long time ago. Sorry I don't think I can help you on that one. Best of luck.

Hi Kaan. No need to filter shop bought as they are perfect as they are. Actually they're even better to be honest. They're less viscous, fat, debris and water free. Basically they're ready to go. WVO on the other hand, even the best tends to be a little thicker (more viscous) and contain some debris. The worst isn't even worth trying to filter. Hope this helps. Geoff

The trick is to never allow the surface scum into your filtered oil. Have a look at my multi settling tank video to see what I mean. Clean oil is drawn from the bottom and never the top : )

@@vogman Yeah, I saw it with the clever floater only drawing WVO below the surfade scum. But with the cubies you would have to monitor the emptying process and stop it before the scum reaches the holes, and maybe that is a bit time-consuming? Or would you just trust sock filters to catch the scum?

Yes mate, with the cubies you have to manually watch. But you quickly get an idea how long it take... and if you empty into a settling tank, it doesn't matter if you do get surface scum included. Whilst this would not be ideal, the tank itself should be set up to not remove the surface layer : )

@@vogman Finally drilled one of the cubies. Lots of water came out. So I carefully plugged that hole with a screw and drilled another one further up. Really viscous stuff coming out, it's going extremely slow, so I drilled an additional three holes. Still moving very slow. Maybe because I haven't allowed the fats to settle properly? Cubies are in the garage and most of the time the temperature there has been very low.

Oli Emmett Hi Oli. Water in diesel alone can lead to costly repairs and there's plenty of that in WVO. I've always maintained I'm no mechanic, but I do know a few, and I've heard their nightmare stories of seized up engines, blocked fuel pumps and the like. For me it's a no-brainer. Filtering WVO in THIS way is EASY and for the most part cost free. So why take the risk? Hope this helps my friend.

Hi Grimshaw. When you say "recommended" do you mean by me or someone else? That obviously makes a difference... I'm biased : ) I am a perfectionist and I also strive to find the EASIEST method. This two factors create havoc for me. However, settling is so incredibly easy and amazingly efficient. Problems begin, unfortunately, the very moment you interfere with the process. Break the surface, no matter how gently, and you'll see cloudy gunge from the surface (there's always a thin scum, even when you can't see it) mix with the beautiful clean oil. And then there's current - you're so careful but it stirs just the tiniest bit, like a gnat's fart, and there's a cloud of gunk rising from the bottom. Engage a pump and the current becomes stronger. At least, this has been my personal experience. But let it all settle and poke a SMALL hole a inch or so above the crud and let it trickle out and yes, there's still a tiny cloud, but it's less than an inch and out comes the clean stuff. I'm a bit of a geek when it comes the settling. I just love it! Hope this helps. Geoff

Of course there are better and more expensive methods. Go for it.

Hi Phill. I've never known it go completely solid yet. It goes very thick and times, but not solid. This technique relies on the thicker stuff sinking to the bottom and the clean runny stuff rising. It works as well : )

@@vogman so if the whole amount is thick what did you do ?

Hi Jod. Yes settling should work for WMO. Exactly the same principle... heavy debris sinks (water, metals, etc). Just don't disturb everything once it's settled : ) Best wishes, Geoff

THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!!!

+Backyard Randoms Thanks for your question. I've not tried this on WMO but I would think that settling (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jwco2uey4Kg.html) would work, yes. I can't imagine many folks having WMO in cubies, but the principle behind this technique should work ; ) I suppose the main issues with WMO are water and metal debris, and these certainly would sink to the bottom given time. If there's scum on the surface, avoid that... a settling tank (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g6s3VqkXGcI.html) would do the trick nicely. Depending on what you want to use the WMO for, it might be worth pouring the finished content through a filter sock (whatever micron you wish) but I think the settling technique would certainly remove the vast bulk of unwanted content. If you give it a go, please drop me a line and let me know how you get on. I'd be pleased to hear about it.

It's a nice idea and in many ways is the basis of my settling tank designs. The issue of wasting plastic doesn't really come into play here as whether we poke a hole in them or just empty them, we're still left with empty containers that no one wants : ) I do actually encourage folks clean out the cubies and put the plastic into recycling. It's in another video about dealing with the leftovers. When settling is done properly, as with the multi-tank method, no filters are required at all... now that's good filtering. Thanks for your good intentions. Best wishes Geoff

Hi Andrie. I'm sorry, I can't answer that, I simply don't have the knowledge. I'm not a mechanic / engineer and I'd hate to give you bad advice. I can only recommend that you contact a company that specialise in Diesel / Veg Oil conversion and seek their guidance. You might want to contact Fran at www.diesel-therm.com in Germany (he speaks excellent English). He's converted thousands of vehicles and doubtless has the knowledge you're looking for.

Yeah you can. I run my 89 hilux 50/50 in summer. As it gets a bit cooler you will need a diesel start up shut down tank and heater for veg oil, as can be hard to start otherwise.

ok thank you. and what about commonrail systems? like chevy silverado duramax?

Kees Staps That's a sensible question. My video on the subject will hopefully help : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-REWBqNzLYgQ.html

In freezing conditions veg oil looks a little like very dirty butter. But thankfully it's easy to stop it freezing in storage barrels. I use a fish aquarium heater. These don't use much electricity and don't generate a lot of heat, but it's room temperature heat which is perfect for veg oil : )

@@vogman hi thanks for your reply but the what I want mean what I want to know how can you stop it freezing in your car or can it be mixed with diesel to stop it from freezing

Hi again Peter. I did do a video on that a while ago - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9yk2riZfTQ8.html - and the answer is diesel. It mixes brilliantly with diesel : )

@@vogman hi again thanks for the video link for winter you've answered all my questions now thank you very much appreciated

No worries. Happy to help : )

In part yes. If you look at my other videos you'll see a multi-tank settling set up. That's the one I use. This video is an illustration of the principle of settling. It shows how just doing nothing allows gravity to weed out most of the debris, fats and water. But I'd still encourage the use of a good filter sock afterwards. And if you want something dramatically better but still very easy, that's where the multi-tank system works. Hope this helped : )

Yes

@@vogman And you dont need to titulate the wvo?

That's true Matt. But when you collect used oil in these containers, you soon have hundreds of them sitting around. Even if emptied, the insides are so soiled with fats and gunge that finding another purpose for them is impossible. The only alternative, therefore, is to dispose of them sensibly ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-REWBqNzLYgQ.html So given all this, poking a hole in them isn't such a problem 😁

Possibly, but they're recycled : )

+Ann Blachly Hi Ann... no, absolutely not. But my car loves it!!!