Final Fantasy 7 Remake Intergrade: PS5 vs PS4 Pro - A Brilliant Next-Gen Upgrade! 

Not the kind you want though. It doesn't let you move the camera freely enough for that.

@@carpetfluff35 F

Ah Tifa

@@carpetfluff35 haha

Hahaha what a damn lie...it is an atrocious photo mode, there aren't even depth of field settings that are used in EVERY SINGLE cutscene in this game.

“You’ll get your rent when you fix this damn door!”

Now you know why they didn't patch it in the PS4 version. They got a selling point for the PS5 version handed to them for free by the players.

@@SunwardTerror 🤣🤣🤣 Spider-Man 3 right?

Can can you believe there are people out there lying about not noticing the door. Would be like someone running at you with a knife and pointing at you shouting DIE and saying I didn't notice him.

@@SunwardTerror 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lmao, we've been saying this for years

Yes. Insomniac has been doing that very effectively imo. I think performance RT is the best mode. Loss resolution is barely visible when you’re just playing. But 60 fps and ray tracing to match it looks really awesome

@@huskytzu7709 agreed, ratchet and clank is by far the prettiest game I’ve seen. Performance RT FTWV

Could not agree more man, ps5 and a brand new 4k TV has made me not be able to tolerate 30fps at all.

NOOOO!! STOP IT ! YOUR EEYES CANT SEE HIGHER THAN 30 FPS REEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Yeah they are on fire for being biased and leaning towards money

@@shyamkumarsasi3577 what are you talking about

@@opaz3530 PS fans claim they're getting money from MSOFT, PC fans claim they're getting money from Nvidia and other places to hype up their products, etc.

@@opaz3530 he trolling

@@LN.2233 I still don’t understand. DigitaI foundry is reporting on games like they always do. If Xbox fans want digital foundry to talk about Xbox more, Xbox should drop some games.

Legit I just have it at graphics mode since I got a new tv. But god dang that instant load is like magic to me.

Motion persistence of image is a quality boost that far exceeds what you get at 4k/30 with the amount of judder the frame rate introduces (especially if you are on a high refresh display). Performance mode is the only way to go.

@@cronoesify agreed

looks like a nice port

Agreed 100% I found the graphics mode unplayable since I first started playing in performance mode. I didn't even see a big difference in the visuals between the 2 modes.

Went straight to performance mode , put it down to 30 just to see if there was a visual difference (wasn't as far as my eyes could tell) and holy shit 30 makes me sick now lol

Lol farming at Midgar should be faster now!

That’s why ps is better. This comparison says it all. Xbots are somewhere crying rn. Another L failbox 🗑

Console wars in 2021? Zzzz

@@thirtythird985 Small D confirmed.

I love when I hear "loading times are ridiculous" these days I know that's a really good thing and not a really bad thing.

Yeah PS4 really was on its last legs trying to run this game.

Same

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@@WhiteHawk77 I haven’t no

Same i waited just cuz i heard of the upgrade

@@WhiteHawk77...... I didn't like the original because of the turn based combat.

That is the case with a lot of games. My belief is that developers generally prefer 60 FPS modes themselves. They had their hands tied behind their back the last gen with the pro/x upgrades. They had all this excess power on the GPU because the CPU couldn't consistently stay close enough to 60 on most titles, so they basically locked to 30 and then threw resolution at the GPU.

Sloppy floating points no one is going to notice, but you also get in practice inferior texture clarity.

@@richardfranklin6003 Yeah the CPU wasnt the grunt work. I bet money the devs were using GCNs compute shaders for general purpose compute, like x86. Honestly in the future with a.i., cell might make a comeback. The in order hand holding nonsense in software will no longer be a hinderance.

Yeah, I appreciate these quality modes for photo modes and such but the 60fps is just incredible to look at. The difference in quality is so small when its in motion. The biggest issue was pop in textures and thats fixed regardless. Both modes also get the improved lighting and such. I can't wait to play this again at 60fps.

@@mbrannon Welcome to 2001

@@reynutz We are obviously talking about in the context of modern consoles and these massive resolutions. But okay.

@@reynutz Yeah, these new kids on the block just never experienced CRT back then in 1080p. makes plasma, lcd , led look like a JOKE ! Fluid ?............lol, early 2000's was FUILD AF on crt !

@@mbrannon Massive? Dynamic "4K" that rarely reaches 1440p is Massive?

Welcome to 2010+

What?

@@Magido89 He is a PC Elitist.

@@gtasmike333 lol sure, these games did not exsist in 2010 and neither did SSD's at this speed

@@solid_justice5855 Thats why i wrote the +.

That’s what I’m going now. Didn’t bother importing my save. Playing the main game completely from scratch before going onto the Yuffie DLC.

Planning to do this on pc

I imported my NG+ save and chapter selected back to the beginning on easy just to see everything.

That’s the point, sergeant

I almost play in ps4 pro.. didn’t transfer my save because I want to earn the trophies on ps5 and experience the glory of 60fps... my god it looks good. Every cutscene makes me feel HIGH, it’s such a pleasure. Fucking amazing game.

The game was never in development hell. Taking 5 yrs to produce a AAA rpg is average. It probably felt like dev hell since they really didn't talk about it from 2016 to early 2019 but it was right on track.

@@densetsu4286 I dunno, throwing out a studio's entire work on the game after 2 years and then starting from scratch in-house sounds like development hell to me. Not anywhere close to, say, Versus XIII or Duke Nukem Forever, but still dev hell nonetheless.

@@valkyrion_ex1173 Exactly. Glad you're informed!

@@servantbyday actually he's not at all. They didn't throw out an entire studios worth of work. That's just a piss poor rumor that is easily disproven. Multiple scenes play out the exact same from cc2 and final release. With the main difference being the assets used. Camera angles, model placements, model movements are all the same or similar. A lot has been kept. It's almost like looking at the natural progress from an early idea/concept scene to a polished finished release. And having trouble does not equal development hell. Development hell is when a he takes too long to come out. This is not the case for ffviir. Ffviir took about the same time frame that an average AAA rpg takes to develop even with its issues early on. In fact the oppisite is true given the fact that it even had some issues with an external studio and they still got it out in about the average time it takes. So that tells me there was no dev hell. And that after the issue it was pretty smooth sailing. So again no he's not well informed.

I hate that they broke up the game into 2 parts, kinda lame

The biggest difference is in how the game feels to play at 60fps. No one in their right mind would like to play in 30fps mode. You must be living life in slideshow mode if are actually able to deal with 30fps in a fast paced game like this.

@@Deffine I said "graphical differences". I mean I guess frame rate is technically a graphical difference but it's much more of a gameplay thing.

@UCsh3G5xBUOsY3-BbAAzK7uA Some are improved, others are not. Episode 2 will 100% improve with much higher quality assets. That is, if they are developing only for PS5. If they are also developing for PS4, the difference may not be as big.

@@Deffine I will play the 30fps mode. This game’s combat isn’t on the level of fast response as something like DMC or Bayonetta so I’ll take the higher resolution, thanks 😌

@@Highwaysonyfan87 Dude, are you living life in a slideshow? I have to ask, because normal human beings can notice light blinking at 1/2000th of a second. Im not gonna say that translates to seeing in 2000fps, but even 60fps is far, far away from whats natural "smoothness" to human eyes. 60fps is a good standard though and there are clear diminishing returns after 90fps. If we had 60fps as minimum and 90fps as an option, that would be the ideal gaming environment.

i won the game on the ps4 on pc i would want to play it on 4 k mode.

I wanted to thank you since I'm only playing this now in graphics mode, and am pretty happy with the combat, but it's good to know this for when I get to it. Thanks!

Agreed

Seriously, the speed of the combat and the animations absolutely SHINE at 60fps. I love looking at the mechanical enemies' components shifting and moving in 60fps. The clarity is glorious.

Don't forget Ratchet and Clank. Played for 6 hours today, it's AMAZING!

@@jakeifraimov3430 rift apart is so fun. Fuckin eye candy too

Same here. Although I’m going with Ratchet & Clank first. ^^

@@AndreaNasuelli oh damn, yeah it sucks that it’s still hard to find one! I got super lucky that I got on in December at Retail price. Had to hunt one for like 3 weeks but I finally got one through the Walmart mobile app! Rachet and Clank Rift Apart is incredible though!! Worth buying the console just for that game!

Ya idk man the fog is a lil weird, maybe if I play the game again maybe it will actually make the atmosphere better

They should reduce the fog

Apparently there will be the option but we really can't be too sure of it being a quality mode. Hopefully it has good image quality and a solid frame rate.

In some ways that feels far more transformative than just a mere graphics upgrade. Ghost of Tsushima at 60 FPS is great, I love quick resume on the Series X for easily jumping back in on a variety of games. There are hiccups to be sure and supply problems are putting a damper on it but this generation has some really snazzy features that really change the way I'm approaching games.

Yeah they confirmed at 4:15 that the only diff between the modes is resolution

If every game's 60fps mode only dropped the resolution I'd go for it every single time. It's the only thing I'm willing to sacrifice on consoles for better framerate.

Problem is, it's not as crisp. Both are locked and steady so both are good depending on what you want.

@@arootube True native 4K is overrated, I always choose reconstructed/dynamic 4K or even 1440p 60fps over native 4K 30.

@@SaboteurDS Except it's not. I think there was a little bit of an oversight here on DF's part because while yes the 60fps mode feels incredible, I can easily tell that there are some much sharper textures in the graphics mode. Stuff like environmental and clothing textures are noticeably sharper and having the ability to pick up tiny details such as subtle emotions and blood vessels in character's eyes and tiny scuffs and scratches on Cloud's buster sword have a night and day difference in quality IMO. Once the 60fps novelty wears off, I highly recommend fans check out some of their favourite cutscenes in the graphics mode. In FF7R the visual experience is super important to hardcore FF7 fans and I think if they do happen to have a 4k screen, they are absolutely doing themselves a bit of a disservice if they choose to completely ignore the graphics mode because simply because it's not 60fps.

Exactly this.

Yup. I mean, if you really want to justify the cost of your wall sized TV then okay...if you must, but it's absolutely not worth losing 30fps over. The fidelty is fine and the game just plain looks and feels better when it's moving that smoothly.

If you can't track the image, you inherently lose image quality. 60fps gives you much greater permanence in the image while in motion, which means you can discern more detail than you would at 30fps. But photo mode is better at 4k/30 so there's that.

resolution < 60fps

@@cronoesify you got to pause to use photo mode so you might as flick it on when you want a picture

yeah the extra fog is over done

I like the fog

@@drdoomslab It depends really. Some sections actually look better with it IMO.

Wish there was an option to turn off or at least reduce the fog

@@michaeljohn5130 honestly this. Having options for an arguable and entirely subjective improvement would be great.

I played on a regular ps4. I noticed the textures but they didn't bother me as much as the NPC popping. Blurry textures are noticeable if you are looking directly at them but it's very hard to ignore people getting beamed down from the Enterprise as you get closer.

Well it's still years off being completed so plenty of time for them to screw up.

The game is good but the ending and last chapter are completely nonsense and destroy final fantasy 7 itself

@@albertwesker9592 Because they are taking the remake into a different direction. It's not just a simple remake. It's a new chapter that goes alongside the original games and movie. That ending is really messed up because we don't have the next game but I'm I am confident they are taking in into an interesting direction. My guess is that Sephiroth or Jenova's spirit tried one last ditch effort to take over the world after the Advent Children movie and it involve either time travel or alternate realities. The weird spirits stuff we saw that were not in the original game are guiding events a certain way.

@@chamoo232 yeah probably, but the ending is messed up, people not familiar whit the whole final fantasy 7 compilation want understand a shit about it

@@albertwesker9592 Compared to games like Kingdom Hearts it's still one of the less messy and weird story that SE has made. As long as we get sequels that explain things it should make that ending better in the future. I still remember how much shit the Force Unleashed 2 game got for it's shit ending where you just capture Darth Vader. We never got a 3rd game to make that ending work in the timeline.

Definitely time to upgrade my friend.

Agreed!

12k would also be garbage at 30fps

@@thirtythird985 no because a £360 console isn't comparable to a computer costing around 5x (at least) more.

Not happy with 1440p. I want 4k 60 on an advertised 8k console.

@@thirtythird985 well my all time favourite is the xbox 360, but my most played atm is my ps5.

I always prefer higher quality/resolution graphics over frame rate. Of course if I can have both, I would. And that's one of the advantages of PC - in the future when you upgrade your PC, you can often go back and play last gen titles with max res and frame rate!

It depends for me. If it’s a more casual single player game, and the 30 fps mode offers substantial visual improvements (not just more pixels, that shit’s irrelevant, but stuff like ray tracing, improved lighting, draw distance etc.) then I’d choose the 30 frames mode. In this game defo 60 fps, though, since the only difference is pixel quantity and 1512p is already more than enough for me, especially when paired with modern AA techniques and upscaling methods.

Some genres/types of gaming excel at 60fps and up. Anything with timely action controls benefit from the superior input response that comes with 60fps~. Perhaps some RPGs, puzzle games, slower moving games can survive fine at 30.

I'm still waiting for 4k 60 fps.

@@eile4219 Why, though? That’s nothing but a waste of hardware resources. Native 4K that is (not 60 frames).

You're right 😎👍

Downloaded it, it’s amazing and 60fps is a godsend over the PS4 30fps

Yep

I think it defaults to whatever you chose in your system settings.

Although many of us grew up playing every single game with zero loading times and 60hz across the board.👌 ... in an era of dramatically different complexity, hehe.

If you can get a PS5 that is. Or if Square will release it on the PC.

Are those released yet?

@@PK7796 Next gen update for Jedi Fallen Order arrived yesterday

@@siper322 and 60fps patch legion?

ps4 version already had HDR on ff7 remake

@@Ahytys It did but it was extremely basic and honestly not that great. PS5 version has 3 different sliders for it and it's implemented far better.

I've always chose graphics over performance. Ideally I'd like to have both but graphics are always a priority. Half my gaming is just stopping the action and looking around at the detailed environments. Idk why so many people hate on graphics modes, let people choose how they want to play!

@@tylervincent2559 I’m with you on that last part For me personally, I prioritise performance over graphics, but I’m also glad that instead of forcing one or the other, they finally started giving us a choice since “different strokes for different folks”

@@tylervincent2559 it’s the current state of gaming and the “GIVE ME MOR FPS” mentality. High FPS is a must for twitchy shooters, and an argument can be made that this game is so fast paced, that high FPS make combat more enjoyable. But for some single-player story driven games, there is a beauty to having 30fps, in which it adds more motion blur, which in turn feels more cinematic. I’ve always said, games that don’t require fast movement, like turn based RPGs, should stay at 30fps(hell maybe even 24fps to match the look of films) because it allows the graphics quality to be turned up to max for the full experience. This is coming from someone like me who enjoys 144fps PC gaming on Apex Legends. Both frame-rates can exist and in some cases should serve as an artistic choice.

The prices of games would be much higher when the store would be the only option and right now you already pay more on the store than the competition for 3rd party games On PC you have a lot of stores to choose On Xbox you can at least buy from other countries stores and change it in seconds

@@oror3751 considering the costs of GPUs alone right now- you are way further ahead with a console even with the inflated game pricing

@@mikem2253 This is why I am on Xbox(I baught Xbox after using Gamepass for PC)...but this problem is gonna be huge on PlayStation

@@mikem2253 Ps5 disc is the way to go here Sony give you too few options where to buy digitally and it's gonna cost you alot

If you can get an Xbox One X and swap out the stock drive with a SSD, you have a pretty great system, even in 2021. Especially if you have gamepass and a good tv that can do VRR.

You can actually see in volumetric fog. That makes it more atmospheric. I actually liked the N64 fog in some games like Turok 2 to a degree.

Lmao, you are funny.

boomers are so funny

Yeah can't go back to 30 FPS slideshow

When I was playing Crash trilogy on Playstation, and saw some PC help videos for levels that were 60fps, I felt nauseous playing it right afterwards and it just seemed so wrong. And I had seen tens of hours of 30fps gameplay, and one minute of 60fps at that point. The difference is so big at least for me.

They can't enforce a strict SSD min spec yet, so they aren't packing the game's file system in an optimized-for-SSD fashion, which makes a significant difference. On PC, what you get from SSD can be called 'passive' loading perks. But games aren't developed or compiled expressly optimized towards SSD - since it's not an enforced/guaranteed user spec to target.

Its true,none of the changes mean anything for the enjoyment of the gameplay which really isn"t all that enjoyable

It might be less pleasant because it obscures your view of the envrionment, but sometimes that uneasiness can be used to enhance the atmosphere. It can help to create an environment that feels oppressive, or it can add a sense of mystery.

Some i think are intended. Like.. Slowly revealing na entirety or scale of the space as you move along..

@@philipvalenzuela4969 step outside go any where your not gonna encounter fog 24/7 like how they are trying to potray them in games,

@@infamousmedia1923 do...do you even know where the game takes place? it'd be more surprising if you didn't see fog in many of the locals you visit.

@@ruxis2563 im not talking about just this one game

How long did it take for you to finish it?

@@slorr55 The main content? Probably 4 hours or so. But I'm slow and look everywhere. The mini games will add some time. There are a few bosses too, which was cool.

Yeah ps5 is killing it with its weak hardware lol

@@shyamkumarsasi3577 fanboy detected

@@shyamkumarsasi3577 are you crying? This "weak" console is making everything released on other consoles pale in graphic and technical terms. Enjoy The Medium at 790p with 22fps.

@@shyamkumarsasi3577 cry more salty boi while you wait for a halo CE remaster

PC release is out tomorrow!