Final Fantasy VII Remake Betrayed Us | 1997 vs. 2020 

I respect you griping about the remake. It's terrible. But this is the internet People will be like "gotcha" or whatnot. Keep ripping this a new A

you were right when you made this video, you'll be right after rebirth drops, and you'll continue to be right when they finish the trilogy. this was a 0/10 remake. a 3/10 reboot/sequel.

When I think of the remake of FF7, bastardized is the word that comes to mind. How Square Enix can get away with making a lower in quality of the original and adding new characters that no one wanted. Then we have the cheek of the newer Final Fantasy fans claiming turn based was dropped because of new hardware and this is what the original FF7 should look like and so on. I enjoyed the video, I'm pleased I came across this channel as I feel there's not many of us around anymore.

wait wait wait wait wait.... did you NOT know you get Omnislash for free if you suck so hard that you never get it throughout the game?

What I realized when I came back to finish the ff7 remake (cause I stopped because it became a chore) was I love this style of FF gameplay, the blend of action and turn-based is really good with this one, I also hate that they had to break it up into MULTIPLE parts I mean shit isn't part 2 good enough to end it you're telling me there might be a part 3?? Come on square...but I'll still buy it and play it I really just hope it doesn't have extremely dull parts that are a chore to get through, I was pulling my teeth at certain points in the last couple chapters cause it was so boring, the ending though...was high octane action and even though I can see why people complain about it I thought it was a badass way to end part 1 after that awful Hojos basement mundane switched between two parties bs 🫠

FF7 remake wasn't a destructive product though. It was well received with a vocal minority complaining because they didn't get the same exact game with a new coat of paint.

@@crystalwater505 I believe he said that in a general perspective. I doubt he was talking about FFVII Remake as a whole. He didn't even slander the game. He just stated an all too common mentality between devs from the West and the East and he is right on that. The West strengthen long standing foundations while the East put new ideas and concepts into practice regardless of the overall reception of it. If we were to get down to that topic, it's not just limited into games. You can see it from architecture to culture on how the West and the East have very differering concepts of various things.

@@TheyCallMeSledge Stalker.

There's some truth to this but the opposite can be said of both as well. At the end of the day, they both make video games for the sake of profit. If Nintendo thinks Star Fox or Paper Mario will sell better as an adventure game, they'll do it. If Activision/EA thinks Call of Duty/Madden will sell better by staying safe and making minimal changes, they’ll do it. If Square thinks FFVIIR and even FF16 will sell better as a western style action game, they'll do it. They all try different kinds of things and sugarcoat it in different ways but its done for the sake of profit. Of course, you'll always have your outliers from both. Your passion projects like the Xenoblades, God of Wars, Doom Eternals, Elden Rings, Zeldas, etc.

And yet it used to be the opposite, in the 1700s and 1800s the West was the source of Enlightenment thought, eclectic art styles inspired by other cultures, new econonic philosophies and the Industrial Revolution, all of which were anti-conventional and anti-traditional phenomena. Meanwhile, East Asia did things like they had done for hundreds or thousands of years. Most of the great and revolutionary works of art, literature and composed music from this era came from Europe.

The OG has a lot of little moments of Cloud just being a goofy country boy. It’s honestly sad how he’s been misconstrued to be all brooding and emo.

The dialogue and clouds portrayal is my biggest issue. I just fucken hate this dude. Such a cunt to everyone, and for no reason. (English dub btw) and I CANNOT stand the random grunting anime noises from the characters in place of actual dialogue. Feels very weird when cloud or co is asked something directly to their face and they go “hmmmm aghhh ughhhh” and look to the ground. Did a brain damaged child write this?

@@hollyshock8400 I think the creators said he's supposed to be awkward and anti-social though. He failed to become SOLDIER and was always shy. Even the flashback where Tifa got mad at him for ignoring her never happened, she actually didn't notice him when they were children in that scene.

@@eveningrice That version of Cloud is supposed to be after the reveal. For the majority of the game, Cloud is supposed to be emulating Zack's personality. If he is already brooding right from the start, then it doesn't make any sense why Aeris even think Cloud resembles Zack. Even then, once Cloud accepts his past, he doesn't go back to being anti-social. He is still awkward, but accepts that he has friends that will help him. That is his character development. Whatever version of Cloud Square Enix dished out after the original has little resemblance to the original.

​​@@zeiva always processed Cloud becoming casual and less fake after he remembered himself. He was bummed in Advent Children due to the state of the world and an ongoing identity crisis, but he got over that in the movie. In his last canon appearance, in Dirge of Cerberus, the man cracks wise when he shows up and even kinda grins. They threw all that out to make him a generic anime sad boy. Pitiful.

then...it doesn't fit? I mean the FMV cutscenes are part of the game.

Or you mean like the playable part of the game?

@@CronicasDeGisthia pretty much yeah, additionally, a large majority of the game (minus sound effects and fmvs) was actually stored in the ps1's ram, meaning you could still play it even with the disc removed. There's a video on here I know where a guy shows this off and it's really cool

If u remove the FMVs in the OG.. would the game be playable(understanable)? If not then it means the game couldnt fit a disc

Without cutscenes OGFF7 is a shadow of itself. It was those glorious cutscenes that made it so popular, it was the focus of their entire promotional campaign which may be the most successful and impactive campaign in gaming history.

Shame they cut Tifa calling him a retard :^)

That's actually pretty clever and heart wrenching.

Like the barret in aeriths church art, I just took it to mean wrong disc, since it's the only time it was ever seen in game

I thought the exact same, and never saw it as an error as well. Your also 100% right! There's an entire area in Junon where the Highwind is docked and floating. Aerith absolutely saw a airship as long as she was in your party I suppose. 🤷‍♂️

Yes, you can take the ship back to junon, after getting the buggy. It‘s there. Found it by mistake today. Pretty neat.

All of these artwork are scenes we don't see in the game (except Sephiroth and Cloud), we don't see Barret at Aerith's church with Marlene, Red XIII standing next his petrified father, Yuffie on a hill next to Wutai, Tifa as an adult on top of the water tower, Cid sitting in his plane staring at Rocket Town or Vincent standing on top of a building in Nibelheim. Aerith in front of the Highwind is obviously the first time you go to Junon, they all follow up after Cloud after he goes up using the dolphin. This artwork is no different than any other. You guys are reading WAY too much into this.

I loved how he started singing in pain

I love that they slow you down as you go so you start to rethink your decision just like when you decide to take the stairs irl.

took the elevator. there was some funny moment also,. A random dude pop in, talking on the phone about avalanche terrorist about to attack anyday now, while barret tifa and cloud, arm to the teeths stand not 2 feet away from him. Those glances were funny.

@@kyrrozz lol yeah i did both instances just to see, elevator was funny too. getting slowed down on the stairs was just paaaainful

Good Ole days

Oh that's cool. Never knew they could be hot swapped like that.

@Skyverb it tells you not to shut console off and insert disc 2 or 3

@@patrickbrooks2644 Oh I know that part; when u reach the end of each disc's story. I was saying I didn't know u could hot swap before those points; as OP mentioned.

I initially read this comment without my glasses and thought you said "dicks" instead of "disks"😂

I just got to this part in the original today and agree. Hope they keep it in Rebirth.

You never controlled Sephiroth it was an AI you only played as Cloud

@@GrandmasterKnight32 I just meant he was in your party and you can see his output and stats

@@actuallynotsteve that's not what you said though

@@GrandmasterKnight32 This is the strangest nitpick ever. You control the party, they're both in your party.

I mean, that's pretty much true in the original, too, just not in midgar.

I love that I understand this reference

Or I do you one better "Why is Sephiroth?" 🤣

This comment absolutely NEEDS more likes.

"Sephiroth died on the way back to his home planet"

I get the feeling Jeb watched Robot Co-Op's - Final Fantasy 7 Remake | When Stories Become Too Famous for Their Own Good ( ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kYdkrAZWbTM.html ) But they're both right. Wrecked the story which the original was great but had problems that could have been fixed up.

i think ff7 has that lore edging that goes for it more than others

ff9 has a ending if you ignore Necron

Exactly. In the first disc he was just an enigma that you never saw until he finally appeared at the Nibelheim flashback. That made you imagine what he looked like; someone who is so infamous and seems to always be a step ahead of you

my faith in squaresoft burned bright with final fantasy 7 my faith in square enix died with the remake...

@@fumomofumosarum5893 absolutely agree!

And they didn't.

@@Shendue Ironically, Anno's NGE stuff after the EoE OVA is all crap IMHO, like what they did here with FF7R. You can see the similarities in how the story structure gets changed for worse beat by beat. A similiar phenomenon I'd say. In Hideki Anno's case, I'm not sure if he's tired of re-telling Eva's story over & over or if the suits want him to do it to try & print money.

​@@PaulieMcCoy 3.0+1.0 imo is way better than End of Evangelion.

​@@PaulieMcCoy Bad comparison, I think. Like them or not, EoE and the rebuilds were purpose built with a specific goal in mind. The FF7 remakes(?), on the other hand, seem only to exist and deviate just for the sake of doing so. EoE and the Rebuild movies are purpose built middle fingers to the obsessive fans of the series or those who didn't understand it's message. EoE reiterates the point of the series, but showcases a much more negative outcome for having "not learning the lesson in time". The rebuild films are the cinematic equivalent of an spitefully slamming someone's face into a face, with the first film being wish fulfillment bait, the second film being a subversion, and the third film being Anno's wish fulfillment that ends with a very explicit "no more evas, go out outside".

​@@spnked9516 It's so funny how the biggest hater of Evangelion is Anno himself.

Tease him like that why exactly? It's not like we don't know he'll play a part in the story, or how he looks. In the OG FF7 the teasing and big reveal worked because no one knew him, no one. Meanwhile by 2020 he was among the most famous videogame villains of all time, so teasing wouldn't work because everyone knows him. Also, the game is a REMAKE, not a REMASTER. Remasters are the ones that take the story 1:1 and upgrade everything for the new console gen. Remakes tend to change stuff to give an entire new experience to the player, and that's what the new FF7R trilogy is supposed to be.

@@ghoulknight1526 Because his obsession with Cloud makes absolutely no sense. He didn't even know who Cloud was until he became a useful tool for him. A remaster is taking the old game and upscaling textures and (sometimes) adding quality of life features, what you're describing is a re-imagining, not a remake.

I was asking myself the same while playing REMAKE. All I asked was Remake / Remastered from OG. That´s all, yeah, a little more deep story, sure! I mean, yes! I had fun the playing the game. Did I enjoyed it? Yeah, it was fine! -Graphics, characters, Voice Actors, ambience everything was great! Until, the timelines bullshit story came onto scene, I was like: "WHAT? This crap about multiverses shit, again?".. I was so down about it, because it felt like a knockoff from Kingdom Hearts (which bored me so much btw) . I haven't played Rebirth because... I'm scared I won't like it. I have seen screenshots and mini shorts on YT from specific scenes... but, still nothing that reassures me that it's okay to buy and play, not because of the graphics but, because how much the story is changed.

i'm with you tho i stuck to my guns, is alot great like music and characters have more weight in better graphics and with voice acting, a lot of the stuff the expanded was awesome but the end and just the lack of rpg elements action elements made it feel like a lame kh game, the story changes all added nothing and where worse in most case, n dint gaslight myself, just got abuse from the "fans" i no longer consider myself a final fantasy fan as im not aloud to have a opinion beyond namura and confusing plot is great.... its not more than anything i'm sad that i was so excited for a ff7 remake to get met with a narrative that spits in its face! and now we never get a real remake is this style 😭 so much wasted potential! by sales numbers they messed up so your not wrong, online just full of fanboys/girls calling everything a masterpiece and the people who hate it or not interested are less verbal so will always see more praise than hate its called ecco chambers

I did this, too. I tricked and convinced myself into liking it. It's really disappointing. There are SO MANY things I liked in this game, but it's so padded out and boring. On top of that, they changed the story! Why couldn't they have just done a remake?

Rebirth is 90 percent minigame 10 percent story. lol

One of the lines of all time

Especially when he mako'd all over them.

Oh stfu the meme was never funny & it’s old

monkey see monkey do

mako see mako do

And the best part is that in building that Doc Ock up, he became my favorite version of the character! Just.... like.... Sephiroth could have been in this remake. Woahh. :O

@@JebZone exactly, and wow, thank you for reading my somewhat long comment ^^;

Seriously, this isn't what fans wanted. We wanted the SAME story, only fleshed out. We wanted the SAME characters, only fleshed out. We wanted the SAME combat, only fleshed out. Give us all sorts of new materia combinations/exploits the developer never saw coming. We're still seeing new, creative ways people use OG materia 25+ years later. No one will do the same for this, or any, of the Remake(s). SE said shit like, "Well, can't please everyone." How about pleasing the people, that, you know, truly held this game in such legendary regard??? The same people that held SquareSoft as their favorite developer for DECADES???

Sephiroth in the remake is a depiction of jenova corruption. Many times, sephiroth only shows up when cloud is having those headaches (the same headaches that you see in og FF7). If you pay attention, none of the team member (except cloud) was even aware of sephiroth. Idk how someone whos played the og FF7 could miss that detail

You could say the "remake" is experiencing...a Crisis of its Core. .....I'll see myself out

@@silentmoondemon Exquisite.

those themes were never portrayed well

You have no idea what's gonna happen or who's gonna die nobody wants to play the exact same game I'm glad they made a fresh new story

@@xernade 🤣 see here is where your "logic" is showing I don't have to because they made a new game, stupid ass point

Out of curiosity is this the first time you've heard their voices? Have you checked out Other games with Cloud and the others appeared in?

@@toddstone230 yes and I know they matched them to Advent Children. My point is that's how I imagined them the first time around.

what are you talking about? barret, aerith and many others are bloody awful.

Really? I find the voices and lipsinc average at Best (for a project like that), specially on pivotal scenes...

​@@mateusgreenwood1096yes, I recently played Nier replicant and the voice acting in that game blows this remake out of the water, listening the voice acting and scenes in ffVll remake feels mediocre after that

Honestly, there is not even need for it to be said at all. You've seen the first reactor, and it is not like she was planting a nuclear bomb. It is pretty clear that the idea of the entire plate being knocked down as a side effect of AVALANCHE's actions targeting something entirely different from the pillar is visibly ludicrous from what happened before and some common sense.

@@louisvictor3473 I'm talking about just the first bomb in the first reactor. The whole "took the plate down" thing was blamed on AVALANCHE bombing the support pillar directly, not a side-effect of the reactor bombings.

Yeah weirdly it was kinda teed up

@@lordravenblade Fair, it has been a while since my last play through, I misunderstood what you said. Indeed, odd that in the original it is so blink and you miss, because that is basically foreshadowing. I guess this is a plus for the "remake".

@@louisvictor3473 Yeah, you need to talk to her right after going down the pinball machine elevator, before walking into the room and triggering Barrett's dialogue. She's like "Whoops! I thought I followed the directions but I must have miscalculated somewhere". I actually just ran back through the beginning of the game to make sure I wasn't misremembering.

Don’t give them idea’s Amazon will do it 😭😭

This pretty much perfectly sums up the big problem with Final Fantasy VII Remake lol. 😂

But just look at all the extra detail in the foot hair! Totally worth it

The part where we had to climb the lights to get to the security booth just to climb the elevator...I guess we should be grateful that we only had to climb 69 flights of stairs instead of 99...I noticed Cait Siths ultimate megaphone was nowhere to be found...anyways

So I'm in the middle of my first playthrough of the remake and this is how I found out its not the complete game

I was about to say the same thing. Good thing I looked in the comments for someone who already said it

Glad that someone remembers, people are reading way too much into this. Also if you check the other artwork, they're all scenes we don't see in the game, like Barret and Marlene at Aerith's church looking for Cloud. The Aerith one is obviously when they go to Junon right after Cloud goes up using the dolphin, they had to pass by the Highwind.

The beautiful green fields of Junon.

@@Yashirmareyup that sit right behind the top of the city and all around the outside so she could absolutely see it from the Airport.

@@kjh4496 Look at Junon in the overworld and tell me half a mountain is flat plains.

@@Soniman001 Notice, that I was talking about Nomura's interpretation of Cloud vs. Sephiroth in the original FF7. You know, the one where Nomura wasn't the director/writer. The one involving the OG Sephiroth. It was the compilation stuff you mentioned that brought about the exact thing I'm talking about. It wasn't in FF7 because it wasn't the point. Like I said, once Sephiroth got what he wanted, he doesn't interact with the party until they come bashing in his front door for the final fight (even when Cloud and Tifa were spending some time alone by said door). He used Cloud because he was useful, not because they were destined to do battle eternally. Sephiroth doesn't care. That's what the shitty argument is.

So true. It amazes me that Nomura and Kitase literally helped make the original game and yet they don't really understand all the undertones and subtleties. Or they do and don't give a crap cuz they have to 'sUBvErt ExPEctAtIoNs'.

The older I get the more I realize it wasn't just 'nostalgia' or me being a kid, the classic works of the past were really just good. Watched Ghostbusters from 1980s recently and thought it was a masterpiece. It probably wasn't though, just by contrast seems like one today because of how low the bar has dropped.

@@astrahcat1212 yea dude I recently played a lot of old school games. Some of them I was replaying some I was playing for the first time. Its not nostalgia, modern games are missing something. Idk if Ghostbusters is a masterpiece but you could def make an argument for it.

@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 They're missing heart or soul or whatever you wanna call it. The special sauce, maybe creators giving a crap. 🤔

@@astrahcat1212 there are creators who give a crap but those are very rare these days and some times being forced by there publishers to release unfinished games

Nah, he's just male eve from parasite eve

Fans will have to do it i realize.

Thats actually nice to hear. But imagine you could just play a true remake and not have to play a 25y old game after paying 70$ for a "remake"

@@wernerziegler5919 What ?? The original game is still better.

@@Preceyese-Seyeght uhh ok?! Did i say something different?

@@wernerziegler5919 "imagine you could just play a true remake and not to have to play a 25 year old game" Read between the phuckin lines. Also there will be never a TRUE REMAKE of anything. Changes will always be the case. People still should play the original game before a remake. Even if they made an 1 to 1 copy with bad a$$ graphics.

@@Preceyese-Seyeght dude are u shizophrenic or what is your fkn problem? I never said this trash remake is better than the original get a doctor u need serious help

sounds more like a bad sequel than anything close to a remake. it reminds me of terminator genesys. it starts out like the amazing original movie but it turns into something much different and much worse. i never played it and this video makes me glad. i already knew before it even released that nomura would likely ruin it just like kh3.

It's because it's not a sequel, it's a remake, you're misinterpreting the story and believing youtube fan theories. Have fun living in denial.

@@domx7zero157 correct. Idk why these nerds constantly misinterpret the word REMAKE. It's an overhauled version of the original with drastic changes. If you wanted the same game with a fresh coat of paint then that's a REMASTER.

@@huelolhue4018 It's funny how both of you are misinterpreting both what OP is saying and what the video is saying while accusing everyone else of not getting it. Real intellectuals you defender types are. The point isn't that FF7R isn't a remake, it's a remake obviously, the point is that it was presented as a game that would be made from the ground up, recreating the original game like Shadow of the Colossus for example (which by your definition is not a remake, which it is), when in reality it's a continuation of FF7 with a new plot. We also didn't want a remaster, we wanted a remake with the action combat and graphics shown in the trailers, with the original story, or at the very least one equally as good. The people who asked for a remaster and the people who asked for a remake aren't the same. This is beyond simple and if either of you had any reading comprehension you wouldn't have typed these comments out in the first place. Also Dom, nothing about his comment has to do with the story and if you think the video is a RU-vid fan theory I suggest getting your head checked for tumors. Good day.

@@huelolhue4018 “drastic changes to the original” yet it shows events that happened in the original and 2 characters that know what happens and are trying to change that. The first game had to have HAPPENED. Look I’m a fan of the remake, but it’s ridiculous to say that this isn’t a sequel😂😂

@@Handles_are_garbage what contradictions are you referring to?

@@torchlight3173 Yea, I hear ya. I mean look at the Live-A-Live remake, too. No one complained about that, old fans loved it, the remake re-vamped the graphics in a style that suits the original vision, added in really high-quality voice acting, and added a new secret final boss that actually adds more to the story and character arc of one of the characters. It is an exceptional example of a remake done right. Or even SaGa Frontier remastered, where they re-added a previously cut scenario. Stuff like that, I'm positive, is all Final Fantasy VII fans wanted from the remake, and maybe we'll get that with Ever Crisis at least, but then again I recently learned Ever Crisis is going to have freaking loot boxes. I really do hate the modern gaming industry. This is why I tend to stick to retro games.

Did you not finish the game? The Remake is not telling the same story as the original. There are story-related reasons the things you mentioned did not happen.

@@cloudshad0ws It's a pathetic version of the original. Story wise. It is untalented people stealing genius storytelling and tainting it. If they wanted to be creative, why didn't they just make a new game? Answer they are untalented game story developers who aren't creatively exceptional.

@@Musician7831 k

@@Musician7831 Exactly right. The "remake" is the product of money-grubbing suits and talentless bottom feeders on a power trip. Nomura is a hack. He shouldn't be allowed to do anything but eat, sleep, shit and draw little stick men, because that's all he's good for. It's a case of profit first, profit second, profit third, and artistic achievement last. And guys like Nomura get to pat themselves on the back in their corporate sanctioned, ego-driven echo chambers.

@@Musician7831 nah it was a coo story. Kind of boring in spots but the prison esape scene was such a dope scene that i thought could give great nostalgia

Same here

well there will be at least ever crisis

i think the reason they praised it its beacuse they arent like fans of the original this is like the first completion o f7 so they dont compare it with the original when it was announced i though it was a remake but is a retelling

Ever Crisis is a literal Remake.

@@simonhanna3679 i supposed they did in order to satisfy everybody that had a problem with the game etc

Your theory really loses ground when you go to interviews where he admits to being more of a consultant than the co-director square forced him to be. Writing was entirely by Nojima, who wrote KH1 and 2, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, amongst other monstrosities, and also mostly finished the script for the OG FFVII, whit most of Nomura's input that we know being "he pushes for the game to follow the original one closely".

​@@matheusmartins1716 So your argument is that this other guy wrote all of the other games that have better scripts that people liked but NOT this, KH3, or FF15, the games that I specifically mentioned. In addition, we have evidence that Nomura spent so much time restarting and remaking and redoing over and over that they had to send another guy down to take the reigns and force them to finish and release what they had. (See the aforementioned FF15 video...) One quote in one interview to help save face doesn't magically overturn the evidence of our eyes nor all the interviews prior, as well as Nomura being the lead director and creative behind these three games. Sure though, go off, insist that Nomura was an innocent victim of the forces conspiring to ruin his reputation in order to ???

@@marzgamingmaster I didn't mention KH3 cause I didn't bother to play it. It's probably as terrible as the other ones, with the added negative point that of gameplay being worse than the previous ones. But specifically, I didn't mention XV cause: 1st - Super Eyepatch Wolf's video is badly researched and really old, with information that even at the time, were badly researched leaving many details off the video, or just straight up, being wrong. 2nd - I followed Versus XII/XV since 2007, all the way through it's horrendous development that was a combination of all the worse traits of current Square Enix. First, Square at this point saw the need to stretch Nomura as thin as they could to have his name in all places they could have it (if you want an example, the first credited name on XV you'll see is his, although he didn't have any connection to the game at that point), and although they wanted this game to exist, they still made him work in more than 10 different titles before the game even got re-branded to XV. One of the comments that Eyepatch wolf makes reference to (which was really out of context and badly interpreted, where he says the designer said the team was unorganized, while he was actually saying that since he never worked in games before, he felt that way about it cause his only experiences were with animation/anime teams) actually shines a lot of light on the production, Roberto Ferrari said that "the game would get re written over and over again in a couple of months", and that in most part is due to Nomura needing to work on something else, coming back with new ideas and start all anew. Interestingly enough, Ferrari actually always compliments Nomura and the VsXIII team, even deciding to follow him to any project he'd call him, as he said himself. Now, I could go on about FFXV, about how many times Tabata tried to save face lying about something, just to someone else later find out on the demos (and even on the games files) evidence he was just lying to not say he changed things to fit his own vision, but that's not necessary right now, Versus XIII was a mess, nothing really sets in stone the fact that it was going to be a better written game... but at least from trailers and the first two demos (that were closer to the final state the original team left the game on), we can say gameplay was way better, go figure. Now, once again, about Remake, his name, just as always, is plastered by Square on it, to the point were Nomura told people (basically laughing at this fact that's, honestly, fucked) that he learned that he would be the game's director, while watching the teaser (the one that everyone saw on E3) with everyone else on square, learning with everyone in the company that also had nothing to do with the game at that point. And then again, because he was being stretched thin by square, he barely even was a director on Remake, being mostly a supervisor giving some ideas, then again, the comment about him being the one pushing the game to be closer to the original. Still, he said he did things, but tbh, I don't remember a single interview where he claimed anything outside of the battle system and how the game ended. As a matter of fact, we don't even know how much input he gave to Rebirth, but judging from the fact that Square had to announce that he wasn't going to direct it as a co-director "like on Remake", I'd say, he probably didn't do much, and probably because he is tired of being labeled by things he didn't do, he even said in an interview that most of the "Nomura-isms" (in general to all games he worked on) are not his actual doings. I know he drew some stuff from promotional materials, then again, could be remnants of thing he already did before that Square's only now showing to the public. Now, I'm not a Nomura fan, I like one character he wrote for (Original VII Aerith), don't care much about the two he made for FFVI (They're not bad, just don't care about them), and I hate most of his more recent artworks and designs, looking forward to people like Lisa Fujise and Gen Kobayashi to take his place drawing artworks (since they draw in his style better than he does). But throughout the year, I've seen his name being dragged down the mud by things he never did, things that actually make me pissed off since I'm a creative like him. I do shit on him, but for the things he actually did and that I actually consumed. If you want to blame Nomura for something, do it fairly, although, then you'll have to make fun of the KH portable games, since those are the only games he actually wrote for and directed at the same time (not that I would, since, again, everything about this world was mostly set in stone by Nojima on KH 1 and 2, but these games are the only ones he got to do without any interference from Square or Disney).

100% it’s like cordial without water in it. There’s no semblance of balance everything needs to have more sugar in it

Japanese in general don't have a sense for nuance, because they like when people explain things to them

You realize its because this is a sequel and those things are there for a reason. And its highlighted for a reason right

@@jacquegusto4038 Think you need to look up what a sequel is in the dictionary. It's a *R E M A K E*

@@aerfwefd7334 “Remake”, as in, remaking the timeline. It’s not the same timeline.

we're still buying it.

@@EnigamiNetshinobi Who is we?

The problem is we already kmow who Seph is given that FF7 is so popular and have been adapted in several forms of media. There is no mystery anymore, so it makes no sense to go with the old mysterious Sephiroth.

@@Shadow-gm9ct bit exaggerated there he’s shown twice at the start like twice somewhere late game and obviously at the end that’s about it if I remember out of a good 30-50 hour game.I feel like this is something we will find out in the sequels he was not put in there to be just there he’s been put there to mess with Cloud and to change the events of FF7 not entirely but just enough that was the whole point of the whispers the party have now defeated them which is what I think sephiroth wanted so the story is now going to change and Sephiroth clearly has his plans so expect some changes in the next games.

@@ceruleanx5364 Sephiroth is popular amongst Final Fantasy fans. Someone who never played a Final Fantasy game until the remake won’t get that same anonymity of the original. He’ll come across differently and it’ll split the fanbase on who he should be as a character.

This is (Not) a Remake

@@meltedpoo0987 Look up the definition of remake chief

@@joed5150 Do you not even understand the reference? Calm down.

Take it a step further: actually get Hideaki Anno to write/direct for this. We'd be in for a truly unforgettable blast at that point.

@@joed5150 remakes have many different definitions. but the ones that would apply here are softwere remake being a clone that is made to be exactly the same as another system. and a video game remake. closely adapted from a earlier title usaually for the purpose of modernizing a game with updated graphics for newer hardware and gamplay for the contemporary audiences. Typically, a remake of such game software shares essentially the same title, fundamental gameplay concepts, and core story elements of the original game. However, some aspects of the original game may have been changed. should be noted that they changed it a bit from it always to typically. either way this game is not a remake but a sequel or a reboot but not a remake. and arpg is not even a modern style the first turn based rpg and arpg video games were released in the same year

The concept isn’t a failure when the story isn’t finished yet.

@@guyc1479 sorry, but if I need to play multiple full-length games in order to start appreciating the story, I would call that a failure. The butchering of sephiroth's arc and impact is particularly egregious.

@@a1be31s8x9 the story isn’t done, so that makes little sense. His impact was actually built up and expanded. I get it, it’s not a point to point remake. But to call it a failure when the story isn’t completed yet is disingenuous

@@guyc1479 that's like saying you're not allowed to dislike Star wars episode 1 when it came out because the story wasn't done yet. That's a ridiculous standard.

@@a1be31s8x9 No it isn’t. Because some shows have a slow build that picks up throughout the season. Some of the most classic films have a slow start. FF7 remake’s concept is a continuation of the original and avent children.

Yeah I didn't like that at all. It was so obvious what the ghosts represented and felt like a slap in the face. I mean. We are the ones that bought the damn game and gave them their money I think it's fair for us to have a damn opinion.

@@XionosOrigin It says significantly more about you than it does about the game if you felt insulted by the game attempting to do something original with a story that is literally 25 years old people really wouldn’t be so hostile to critique like this if people like you didn’t coat it in so many layers of hyperbolic victimhood nonsense. Calling a game so clearly crafted with love and care to the original game a “slap to the face” because of some story decisions is over-dramatic nonsense. Want people to respect your opinion? Drop that shit.

@@supermutantsam1160 hmmm..... I have to say, I neither got the vibe that this game respected the original. It appeared very corporate in its approach, albeit very competent. Though I wouldn't say it tried to disrespect the fans.

@@UnicornStorm We must have played different games. Although really, this whole “feels corporate/honest” point is incredibly subjective. I feel that it’s honest because the music did not have to be so good (seriously, that tease with JENOVA Quickening was awesome); they really could’ve kept the story the same while still stretching it out to three parts, but SE take an extra mile to change it up to keep a sense of ‘mystery’ even if we the fans should already know how FF7 goes. And speaking of SE, if they were some other company like Konami they would’ve allowed whatever mid level product CyberConnect2 would’ve put out, but they actively chose to redo it in-house because they were not satisfied with what was done.

@@lefthandrule638 of course its subjective, we will never know what was going on in their heads when they made that game. What you call going the extra mile, I call unnecessary inclusions, what you call keeping a sense of mystery, I call blatant fanservice. The music is great, of course, but why did they need to include sephiroths chorus into the opening theme, why has the wall market theme a completely different feel to it. And I'd say its only natural for a big developer (and publisher) to be very protective of their golden goose. At the end of the day, this IS a very good game I got a lot of enjoyment out.... that in many moments felt like a nomura-esque fanfiction for Final Fantasy VII.... which it kinda is

its imposible to keep fucking sephirot a secret, the guy is in smash bros, he is the most popular villain in the entire franchise and even people that have never played the original know about him, any attempt at trying to keep him misterious would be meet with "and when does sephiroth appear exactly?" or "so he is hearing sephiroth or something?" people in 1997 didnt knew who sephiroth was, people in 2020 knew or at least had heard about him even new fans the diference is that when the game originaly came out over 20 years ago it was a completly new story and the gaming industry was much smaller and less developed, final fantasy 7 on itself became a franchise with like a dozen spin of tittles and a movie, its not easy to write the story because you need to take all that into account the expectations are very diferent from when the game originally released to today

Wonder if they'll pull something like that in rebirth?

@@thewolfking3054 how? they already exposed him much more in remake pt1 than in all off the og story combined. prepare that he gets as much anime trope screen time as he did in remake, cheapening everything about him sadly.

I mean...that is exactly what is happening lol. Note how Cloud is not physically able to touch Sephiroth in the intro scene. Seph is not physically there, hes just using Clouds memory as an anchor point to that reality. And attempting to 'REMAKE' events of the past by leading him down another path. Its all very meta. After this scene, you will notice that cats will do the same thing throughout the rest of remake. Hint - how many cats do you remember from the OG? Probably not many. These are all very purposeful hints that let the player know VERY early in the game that this is NOT a remake. This is a game subtitled 'Remake' and there is a HUGE difference.

@@kazyink7187 When OP mentions 'Tyler Durden', he's talking about the very early parts of Fight Club prior to his proper introduction, where he appears in single frames, as a background character, and just generally lurking or 'haunting' the scene--like Sephiroth uhh... isn't in the remake. At all.

@@TheMightyNovac oh, that would be terrible and make no sense.

Imagine believing Nomura after "Final Fantasy characters are useless in Kingdom Hearts so they won't return, anyway, pay for the DLC if you wanna see them again" lmao

@@Peasham yooooo wtf lmao

@@stevenhousley819 I wish I was joking but he had an interview, either before or after KH3 came out, where he said that he won't be putting FF characters into KH anymore because they don't serve the story... and then they were in the ReMind KH3 DLC. Like he didn't need to do that interview, it didn't promote the game in any positive way, it was just a lie, and the ReMind DLC was basically just cut content so he knew what was up, nowadays DLC is planned years in advance. And guess what? He said they're not gonna use FF characters in KH4 anyway. Lol. Lmao, even.

@@Peasham Honestly final fantasy characters do not even do anything in the kingdom hearts main story line only final fantasy characters in KH1 gave back story that was it beyond KH1 they get to do nothing else besides fight fodder enemies . any ways did Leon or cloud fight Ansem the heartless in the final battle in the first Kingdom hearts game, Did Cloud or sephiroth fight against Xemnas in the final battle of Kingdom Hearts 2.non of the final fantasy characters appearing in Kingdom hearts games have nothing to do with its main Keyblade lore either so that's why final fantasy characters are obsolete now since none of them can use a Keyblade yes no keyblade user final fantasy character means the final fantasy cameo characters can do nothing plot wise. The final fantasy characters in Kingdom hearts are used for fan service fights that's it. remember cloud said he does not give a care about Xemnas or Ansem and Xehanort in KH2 this only exemplifies on why final fantasy characters are used for fan service fight affairs since the world building of Kingdom hearts franchise now is only about the keyblade mythos this keyblade mythos does not resolve around the final fantasy characters at all. Does cloud strife in kingdom hearts have a Keyblade wielding ancestor in kingdom hearts "no he does not" so cloud is not important to the lore or plot of kingdom hearts. Call me when cloud, Tifa,Sephiroth,and Aerith get to beat Ansem's heartless,Xemnas and Xehanort when they appeared in all those kingdom hearts games since the final fantasy characters lack a keyblade to be a main hero they will continue to be side lined as fan service fights and this is done on purpose to focus on sora and his friends or other Keyblade wielders.

@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 Bitch, call me when Disney offers anything to the plot lmao, 90% of KH3 was entirely irrelevant to the plot, yet it happened anyway. You're also still acting as though he didn't add FF characters into KH3 in the DLC after saying he wouldn't, and he's gonna do it again.

Yeah Rebirth sucks

Speak for yourself. Some people don’t want the exact same shit they’ve experienced a thousand times before.

@@sora8480 I am speaking for myself.

@@sora8480 what did you think I was doing?

Nier Replicant it's a perfect example of a good remake, cause improved visually every aspect of the former and tweaked the gameplay talking out most of the jank the original had, while mantaining the unique moments, twists and dialogues and overall charm of the original, extending and improving bits or the story and lore, they didnt do a frankestein that navigated in an episodic mess between remake/remaster/sequel/reboot

I've been saying it since day one and all I get is people defending the remake with stupid arguments like "go play the original" (that defeats the whole purpose of wanting a remake for years), "what are you talking about? it has some different details, a remake doesn't have to be identical" (it's not just details, and it's not a remake, it's a sequel!! an alternate timeline soft reboot thing that requieres you to know the original, again defeating the purpose of a remake), or even worse, not a month goes by without arguing on some comment with somebody that says "what are you talking about?, it's the same!". aaaaargh!. it's so frustrating. all they had to do was "ff7 with better graphics", people wanted it, people bought it thinking it was that, nobody say "I HOPE WE GET A SOFT REBOOT ALTERNATE TIMELINE SEQUEL WHERE THE CHANGE DESTINY!!". now we'll never get a true remake.

Reading your comment confirmed one of my big story gripes. I grew up with the original and, beside my personal disappointment in the direction they chose to go, I wondered how the story would even land with newcomers since a lot of the new plot points lose most of their weight if you don't already know what happened in the original. It seems like the writers are kind of exploiting the original story and it's legacy to subvert expectations but not considering that it doesn't necessarily make a ton of sense at face value how they went about it. Either way, to your point, they missed the mark story wise with probably most of fans of the original by trying to create a completely new story experience and then didn't manage to make that experience fully enjoyable for newcomers either because the story relies so heavily on gamers having played or at least watched the original story which shouldn't be a requirement for a "remake."

It's basically a Frankestein that surfs between remake, reboot, and a sequel and like You said it doesnt do any of that remotely good, this Game screams "development hell" and sudden changes as time goes on

@@diegosotomiranda4107 And in addition, you have people who defend this game saying that this is "what a remake is". Um, what? If I want something that is considered old remade, or restored, I don't want an old chair turned into a footstool, which it seems like this game does. It is not good game design to require new players to have played the old version of the game you're supposedly "remaking".

Yeah, Nomura "Kingdom Hearts-ified" the remake. There's just too much "FF7ness" in the original, y'know? Gotta make it a convoluted shitshow and drag the game out to like 10 discs.

I mean, you nailed it on the head. The remake doesn't stand on its own. How is this a remake?

So damn true. Remake is a god damn Rings of Power.

I wouldn’t go that far. There are a lot of things Remake did incredibly well. The gameplay and music is absolutely stellar. A lot of the great moments from the original story will make it through to the Remake. They fumble a lot of the most important beats, but it’s not like the whole game is a catastrophe. Rings of Power is a catastrophe.

Exactly , well said.

This!^^^^^^

despite me loving remake alot, thats the one thing that pissed me off, that they advertised it to be a full remake and not change the story, and then it turns out they changed the story. I mean me personally it annoyed me a lil but i still enjoyed it, but what pissed me off was that they were not being genuine and it was a slap in the face to the og fans

Completely agree with you, they fucked up advertising this game, so people that wanted the full game have a right to be disappointed

Just to play devils advocate here: 1) Could it be worth subverting the idea of a complete remake to catch the player off guard and add something new to the story? 2) at the level of design they incorporated, could a complete 1 for 1 remake feasibly fit in one complete game? But I I suppose they could make a 3 discount, 120 hour version, just take more time.

You’ve captured my thoughts exactly. I love remake (not so much it’s pseudo intellectual timeline hijinks and plot ghosts) but I love its highs. But it’s definitely for the fans. Newcomers are just left confused. I didn’t want to gatekeep either. I was so excited for my friend to play FF7 remake because I wanted to share the experience with him. And Square pulled a fast one on everybody while acting like they were geniuses for it.

"It's not gatekeeping" "it's for the fans" "I'd rather you play what I want you to play"

Wtf, look at all the first time players who are absolutely in love with the Remake, what are you even talking about

I’ve never played ff7 and I loved remake and it wasn’t hard to know what was happening. Maybe you’re just kinda stupid?

And then that gravity is taken away when you go back to Sector 7 and find out it's just a bit messy and basically everyone's just fine

Yup, unfortunately so.

Cloud throws the switch to move the train and she smiles at him like, "good job... cmon, let's go!" Then a helicopter flies overhead, and WAIT! Omg, the towers under attack... cmon, let's go! You run down a small alley and OMG, she grabs the fence... the towers under attack! This is bad... cmon, let's go! You run up to the base and WAIT! Omg, the towers under attack... this is terrible. Cmon, let's go! You get the first group of people and OMG, this is terrible. The towers under attack and people hurt............. God I hated that fucking section so much.

Get it, gravity

Me too. With a passion.

Thank you!

@@BeatVids you're welcome. Happy gaming.

I dunno, I think Cloud sounds really off. Because of that I decided to forgo using Echo-S & went for New Threat instead.

@@Edmund_Christo Thanks for pointing it out, I'll try both!

@@Edmund_Christo fair point I personally prefer echo but to each their own. But we can all agree these mods makes ff7 way better. Happy gaming.

i agree, remember all the aerith theories and hacks to revive her and stuff? most fans wanted her to come back and every time SE was like "no! her death was for a reason" over and over again, alluding to the reason why aerith was killed in the first place: to represent loss. i think after all these years of constantly denying aerith's revival cannot be dissuaded bc as much as ppl want her to come back, the reason of her death was just too important and monumental to the game. i just hope that they dont forget that in lieu of everything going on....

I think it'd be great if Aerith's death scene actually shows Cloud trying methods to save her (phoenix down, etc) and that Sepiroths skill just corroded through her in the end..

commenting so I can come back to this comment when the time comes

So, shit writing then?

If this was Squaresoft of old, perhaps I'd believe this might be the case. As this is modern Square Enix and because its Nomura, I'm doubting this will happen.

Underrated comment. That’s the best way to describe this game holy wow.

i hate the remake cause im playing the original ffvii, but i dont get this comment. Is it bcause sephiroth always apperead every second in remake? lmao

@@Secretxxx67 Game: OMG. Sephiroth is like such an awesome character. He's like responsible for controlling Jenova and for all this shit. You'll find out soon. Keep playing. Player: Stop spoiling it. He's not supposed to be here now! Game: Yeah. I know but I'm so excited I just want to show you. Hey... let me show you what will happen 100 hours from now. Player: No! Let me play! Game: ok ok. But I have a surprise for you. I'm so excited. You know Aerith the girl you just met who seems like just a pretty flower girl? Player: No. Shut up shut up shut up. Let me play. Game: ok ok. I hear ya... "SHE'S GONNA DIE!" It's gonna be sad and cloud will cry and he's gonna be in love with her. Player; STOP SPOILING THE GAME ! Game: I'm just saying that Cloud is a flawed hero and you can't blame him because of what happened at Nibelheim with that fire that you'll find out about later. The fire that killed everyone and is now haunting him. It's so tragic. Player: I don't want to know that yet! Game: This is gonna be so cool. I can't wait for you to play the rest of the game. Wait til you meet CaitSith, the cat being controlled by Reeve. Look at him so sad at the top of the building. And then Zack the guy who was supposed to be killed. He is really gonna be important but now he's alive. Oh he is Aerith's boyfriend.... AWKWARD! Player: I'm done!

@@rudeboyrg AYO WTF? They showed that aerith gonna die in remake? Zack also still alive?

@@rudeboyrg omg i just searched about it and saw cloud n friends fighting something and caught glimpse of "future" from strings of "streams" How tf this is a REMAKE (even its in the title) if the story different from the original and even able to give a glimpse of other franchises (advent children's glimpse). Hironobu sakaguchi, the original story writer for FF series wasnt working on this remake lmao, they really destorying his legacy. But it seems most people enjoyed it, must be bcause graphics

I don’t agreed with you. Even pokemon remake are different from the original because replaying the same shit is boring. I literally enjoy watching how story stuff from other FF7 Game affected FF7R

@@jesus123lozano 1: Bruh pokemon has no replay value outside of choosing a different starter at the beginning of the game. Why do you think all mainline entries have consistently dealt the player with one save file? 2: If replaying the same shit is boring then why are enhanced rereleases, remasters, and remakes insanely successful? 3: Even if you enjoy how the story for FF7R was handled, it doesn't excuse how Square fucked over everyone who wanted it to be faithful or those who were curious on the story and tried this game without playing the original.

@@Koustav_04 1: It's kinda funny you think the Game Awards is a source of validation for the writing. 2: The Force Awakens has a Mary Sue protagonist alright, but Cloud's arc in this game wasn't perfect. Sephiroth showing up too early and Hojo directly spoiling plot revelations sorta weakens Cloud. Cloud's characterization is flawless and accurate. 3: The comparison between FF7R and TFA is pretty clear. Big IPS have done soft reboots and pseudo remakes before like Jurassic World, Evangellion, Code Geass, etc. FF7R isn't unique with this and it definitely doesn't redefine what a remake can be.

@@jesus123lozano hah you play ff14 hai 😗/

@@ShxpxRok heck Yea buddy! Hi o/

it ruins it tho he was more of a legend in the real game, you think he's dead til near the end in the original, til they find his body in crystal in the northern crater so hes not even meant to be in the next part all you see is the destruction he leaves in his wake, he's a lame kh / bond villain now n gay for cloud, even tho he barely knows him in the original game, cloud was a no name grunt who overpowered him in his anger at him attacking his village not to mention hes stupid he wants to destroy the planet and can time travel, he knows about zacks time line n for some reason don't just go there n win, he got to steal the plot from ff8..... one alot of people don't like because of the story....

As someone who never knew about prior to my first playthrough of the original game, the gradual buildup and mystique was considerably more interesting and seeing him in the flesh seemingly out of nowhere was genuinely quite scary. Remake blows its load several hours before it should, ruining what previously worked so beautifully.

what are the high points for you? curious :)

@@mabonman Everything in Chapters 1 and 4, the first half of Chapter 8 (the Reno battle and Cloud’s interactions with Aerith), Wall Market as a whole (best chapter in the game), the Rufus boss fight, and even the final battle against Sephiroth. The ending of the game was great, for me. Gives the feeling that we’re in for a “Rebuild of Evangelion” type of scenario with this project. True to the original, with twists and turns along the way to make the story feel fresh, all over again. At least that’s how I see it.

I would say this only for now. The neccesaty of thes chapters will propaly be explained in Rebirth

Didn’t need to be as long as it was? Really? I’d gladly take 20 more hrs of Midgar and tell myself the original didn’t need to be as short/condensed as it was

I agree with your take, there are moments in the remake i strongly appreciated despite a lot of obvious filler, high points for me were: cloud and aeris/tifa chatting scenes which felt in character (unlike advent children), aeris sensing death vision (reminiscent of yuna), barret reassuring marlene before heading to shinra building, the vr simulation was awesome, i liked the goofiness of yuffie, cloud's general dorkiness, the detailed expansion of the slums etc. I still prefer the original (played it back in 1999-2000) and think its perfect in terms of pacing and tone, but i appreciate the remake's experimentation, i even forgave them for the harry potter dementors which i originally hated

I am not sure who was responsible for recent FF titles in general (like FFXV), because they all seem to shoot themselves in the foot towards the end. It's like they cannot allow themselves to have a simple and smart ending without time travel, etc. FFXV's ending was tragic, but it was extremely abrupt (it felt like the half-way point of the story), so maybe the KH3 and FFVII are trying to overcompensate with fan service, time travel and trying to save everyone. What made FFVII impactful were the unforseen tragedies, but the players had to move on.

And now he's bound and determined to make his XIII Versus series. What are the chances it is going to make up for at least FFXV?

Except kanye is actually good. But hey he said some whack shit therefore he's never been good ever lol

I like how you all blame Nomura when he wasn’t even involved with the story

Nah, it's Kojima

He creates ragebait for the worst type of gamers

Sephiroth shows up just after this in the og (tho literally only in a half hour long flashback Cloud gives the group to give context to what happened, which only raises more questions about him, he shows up "in person" quite a bit after that), he literally has zero bearing on the events that happen (and is barely mentioned), until the very end of the Midgar section, and it's supposed to be a shock. His presence (you only see the effects of his actions, taking JENOVA, killing the president, etc.) is meant to throw a wrench into the story, vastly complicating things out of nowhere with an unknown variable. Showing him all the time takes away from that. He's a legendary war hero that supposedly died, has shown up out of nowhere, wrecked havoc against his supposed side, upending the status quo, and peaced out while clearly having some kindof agenda with some weird biological experiment Shina was apparently doing. What's his goal? Who IS this guy? There's no need to "keep his character relevant", because he literally wasn't a character at this point in the og. Hell, during the Cloud flashback where he talks about him, Barret even asks if Sephiroth is on their side. Cause all anyone (including the audience) knows about him is "Dead war hero", outside of Cloud (whose info isn't reliable) and Tifa Plus you're vastly underestimating the impact of "putting one of the most recognizable villains in gaming into the game" from a business standpoint. Literally the only reason to put him in here is cause he's easily marketable, and fanservice (outside of telling a terrible time travel story, which has no business being in a FF7 game)

@@Eidlones Pardon?

@@Pillock25 Hm?

@@Eidlones Don't worry just my idea of humour, like a can you repeat that after someone gives a long answer.

@@Eidlonesso much cope. you og purists really need to take a shower and get a clue. This game took 15 years from it's original teaser, and you idiots actually think Sephiroth wouldn't be in it?????? Because well he is only mentioned in the original, that means 25 years later it's totally acceptable to not have him in the game, because that's what the original was!!!! NOOOO DONT CHANGE MY HECKING FINAL FANTASY 7!!!!! AHHHH

You're right the game is about these themes. Both the og n the sequel are. Sephiroth also cannot deal with death, endings and loss, therefore he is doing what he is doing in the sequel. He is trying to defy destiny rather to internaly process and accept what happened. It's not just about him as well cuz at the end of ff7r he told Cloud ''I will not end and I will not let YOU end.'' Have some faith in the ff7r team. And it's also 1 game of out of a trilogy. It's way to early to cast these games aside as merely ''fan-service''.

@@themon1100 Then it's just fucked that they're marketing this faux-sequel as a "remake". I don't have faith in the team because they've given me no reason to have faith in them after how abysmally confused Remake was.

They will probably just kill Tifa instead.

Zack doesn't survive, you're seeing him in a different timeline. This is simply a tease for new players like they did at the end of kingdom hearts 2, teasing the heroes from birth by sleep (the prequel) and even IF I'm wrong, you should really wait for the sequel before assuming all these changes. Devs also confirmed that the story is going to follow its original course. This "sequel, zack is alive, anything can happen" is simply a fan theory blown out of proportion. For the "zack is alive" theory to make any sense, the game would have to be written ONLY for people who have already played the original, which is obviously not the case. The only way this could be "fan service" is by assuming that they wrote this game exclusively for people who knows the original story while this is a remake. Please explain to me what would be the logic behind this. All the new stuff the added was to expand the Midgar section since you can't expect a full modern game with only 5 hours of story. The rest of the game is way more expensive, they don't have to add as much. The rest of disc 1 can be a game and disc 2 and 3, which are way shorter can be another. On another note, if Zack is alive, there is no story. Nothing in the remake proves he's alive. Him walking to Midgar holding Cloud is canon, he might have survived the onslaught of soldier (scene from Crisis Core) but in the OG he gets shot while holding Cloud, maybe they're mixing both, he could very well get shot later. More importantly, if he's alive, where did he drop Cloud, where is he during remake part 1. How does any of this make any sense?

@@domx7zero157 You wrote an essay over a game I couldn't give less of a fuck about.

let add a nother layer to this stupidity... the entire game was on one disk the FMVs were the only reason why we had three.... I still like playing the midgar levels then FMV loads and its the canon vs Weapon FMV.

I remember when I had to pay for the discs separately Oh wait I didn't have to

I don’t think anyone here understands how companies make money when developing games. If they released everything at once, the studio would’ve gone bankrupt for the amount of work put in… unless they would’ve sold the full game all at once for $200. Then they would’ve gone bankrupt anyway cuz no one would’ve paid that much. The original is very barebones. If they would’ve done a strict remake, Midgar would’ve felt like a short on rails game that feels disingenuous. I think they did the best job they could’ve given the situation.

@@CodemanDBZ your right midgar would have been short because it was FUCKING SHORT. I bet your one of the asswholes who defended Disc Locked Content and Denuvo too.

@@CodemanDBZ I understand why it was done this way completely, it's just that it resulted in an unnecessarily stretched out, padded and mostly boring product that I don't like. Sorry I guess?

The beautiful thing about the original is the 7th Heaven modders. They've upscaled all of the graphics, added in full voice acting and a plethora of other enhancements. THAT is the true remake.

As a 44 year old, I'll enjoy the original AND the Remake/Rebirth/??. It's mostly people in their 30's who are complaining about these games, not older people like myself. Interesting how that works.

@@JustinStrife I'm 42 and think that the "remake" sucks balls. I have no idea why you think that it would mostly be younger people who have a problem with the new games (a factoid that you pulled out of your arse). It's far more likely that older gamers with fond memories of the original would have an issue.

@@Right_Said_Brett Because the majority of complainers are in their 30's. You are an outlier. Just because you don't fit something, doesn't mean you're the norm. You do something a lot of millennials do(which you are one). You think that the majority think like you. Without taking a look at different groups and looking at polls.

@@JustinStrifeWow! *I* presume that everyone thinks just like I do?! Which is something which "most" millennials do?! If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black! Firstly, you're within 2 years of being my senior, so get off your high horse of being oh-so-much-wiser than myself, you f-ing tosspot. Secondly, it's literally YOU whom's making presumptions about people. Pray, do tell; how did you collect the data that the majority of people taking umbrage with the game are in their 30s? What scientific study did you undertake in order to acquire that data? Go forth and multiply, you pleb.

The remake was horrible

Jesus Christ, the padding is awful, what is wrong with you

Which is literally 99.9% of the time lmao!

@@thelastofitskind3034 only to those who know about the original

@@mohabalserafe3795 I didnt play or knew about the original and I think the remake is trash

nobody wants to play the same shit all over again

@@_CrimsonBlade So true! We want to play a god damn time lapse plot scenario instead... that TOTALLY isn't an overused theme before we even entered 2020

Changing to make it different doesn’t mean it can’t be just as good. You can focus on other aspects that were in the background or ignored, which is definitely a benefit. People having the choice between FMA 2003, the Original Manga, and Brotherhood, is a good thing, IMHO.

@@pureifhecation Tropes are tools. You can make anything that is “overused” great. Dragons are done more times than you can count, and they’re still fun despite that.

@@theatheistbear3117 Pointing out it is overused is usually an obvious way of indicating that it belongs in the "tried and failed" for me. But I'm glad you liked it so much!