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Final Fantasy 7's BEST Cloud Design? 

The Artist Mark Flynn
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FF7 Remake is on the horizon and features an updated Cloud design. But is it the best? The Artist Mark Flynn discusses Cloud Strife's best character design across the many Final Fantasy titles that have featured the lead character from Final Fantasy 7!
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@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Hi all! Hope you enjoyed the video, please give it a like and comment if you enjoyed! Currently running a poll over on twitter to decide the next episode. It's currently neck and neck between Goku, Eggman and Kirby! Head on over and have your say! twitter.com/artistmarkflynn/status/1154882869044682752?s=19
@gabrielneri2820
@gabrielneri2820 5 лет назад
I would love a video on Crash Bandicoot designs ...trust me, there is A LOT to talk about all of the crash designs
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
@@gabrielneri2820 Gonna put him in the next poll for sure!
@shadowstephen8296
@shadowstephen8296 4 года назад
The Artist Mark Flynn Yeah. Afterwards his calfs are going to be so big. Now imagine seeing those thighs in the girl disguise
@breloopharos1919
@breloopharos1919 4 года назад
"lets just hope this game isnt garbage" This made me realize how dissapointing but understandable game design has been for like the past decade give or take but i digress super interesting video, you gained a sub
@C_The_Guy
@C_The_Guy 4 года назад
The Artist Mark Flynn speaking of FF can we talk about the best Yuffie design tho
@Butterfly1025A
@Butterfly1025A 4 года назад
Yo, about Advent Children: I rewatched that movie recently on a whim and it‘s way better than I remembered it being. I was too immature when I first saw it to actually appreciate it for what it was, and what it was is a damn good Cloud Strife character study. The ongoing plot is garbage, but it’s mindlessly fun garbage that’s really intended to tell the story of how this sad dude has given up on his own life. Every time a scene centered around Cloud, I found myself fascinated by his reactions to every situation; there’s so much depth to his character and the writers weren’t scared to dive deep. When I first saw Advent Children, I thought PTSD was being scared of slamming doors and I’d never even heard of survivor’s guilt. I’m older now. The people I know trust me with their broken pieces, and now I can understand why Cloud (who I first thought was a whiny emo coward) is actually a pretty sympathetic dude. I used to be exasperated by his kids; now I’m grown, and suddenly Cloud restructuring his entire life to take care of a devastated orphan is a decision with repercussions and costs that I can see and understand. So many of Cloud’s choices are intimately and hauntingly familiar. Doing your best to keep moving forward, but drowning in bad old memories anyway? Building a new life, but still holding tight to old habits that hurt you now but used to keep you alive? Working to build yourself a future, but dropping it all to care for a loved one who’s definitely going to die? Seeing and hearing your friends reach out to you, but holding yourself apart anyway because loving them scares you? Wanting to be a part of your family, but _knowing_ that you don’t deserve them and that they’d be better off without you? Fuck. The circumstances are different, but I know so many people who’ve forgotten their way home. Advent Children used dumb fantasy bullshit to tell a story that resonates to this day. Kudos, ladies and gentlemen, to the crew who made it; hats off to you. PS: that animation was insanely good for 2003! I definitely prefer the re-released version with the graphics fixes, but that original quality still holds up today.
@FiggyFiggleton
@FiggyFiggleton 4 года назад
I totally agree. After reading the mini novels that took place between FFVII and Advent Children, I had a much greater appreciation for his portrayal in the movie.
@Duenas411
@Duenas411 4 года назад
Couldnt have said this better myself.
@fissilewhistle
@fissilewhistle 4 года назад
I think the story is too badly told for Advent Children to really be a good movie, but it’s most certainly an enjoyable one.
@fyrebird5898
@fyrebird5898 4 года назад
Having recently finished a binge watch of Crisis Core, FF7R & AC I really believe he is one of the most complex gaming characters. I think a lot of his mental & emotional issues are a bit lost on younger players who lack the life experience to empathise with his trauma. I found AC absolutely heart-breaking to watch (especially when I found out what he was doing at the pond in the woods). I agree the writers & character developers weren't scared to dive deep and add that I feel they must have had a psychologist advising them on key emotional nuances to a character struggling with PTSD and identity disorders. I feel its nearly impossible not to feel a sympathy and connection with such a believable imaginary person... which is a bit weird I suppose, but as you say, his choices are familiar :)
@danbakitus9380
@danbakitus9380 3 года назад
I certainly agree. The rest of the movie was kinda... Off? But Cloud and his psychology was great. My one gripe is how did he get to that place if he had opened up more than ever before after Aeriths death in the game? He certainly didn't seem to have survivors guilt then. Even if I'm glad it got thrown in, it none the less felt thrown in
@KumiesCummies
@KumiesCummies 5 лет назад
I wish his Kingdom Hearts outfit was in Smash. That’s my personal favorite Cloud design.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Have had a lot of people saying that!
@gregwilliams4926
@gregwilliams4926 4 года назад
It wouldn't fit for the character since it's an alternate version of him like Nomura said. Same look and design, but isn't the same character from FF7, like Squall looking much older in KH than in FF8. That's like giving Joker a Sonic costume because he's owned by Sega.
@levarhiggins6082
@levarhiggins6082 4 года назад
Kumie indeed! That scarf and the claw is just bad assery!!!!
@AdriAhmad
@AdriAhmad 4 года назад
You can get it in Dissidia but through DLC. Haha
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 4 года назад
@@gregwilliams4926 That example you gave is very dumb tbh, there is no correlation between Sonic The Hedgehog and Persona 5 but there is a strong connection between KH Cloud and the Final Fantasy series, the whole Kingdom Hearts franchise is an offshoot of Final Fantasy for christ's sake. Sonic never appears in Persona 5 nor vice versa but Cloud does appear in Kingdom Hearts 1 & 2
@TheRetroPerspective
@TheRetroPerspective 5 лет назад
I need to be able to see the individual threads of fiber in his SOLDIER uniform as it clips through the scenery and boss apendages just like in FFXV.
@PEDRObv15
@PEDRObv15 4 года назад
I think Cloud looks leaner in the remake than he does in Advent Children, he just has more muscle definition. Maybe he’s dehydrated lol
@amanda8924
@amanda8924 4 года назад
I think it's fitting he has a somewhat sickly look in the first part. !!!!! SPOILERS BELOW~~ Considering he spent 5 years as a test subject and was essentially in a coma.
@Syntherus
@Syntherus 4 года назад
The Advent Children design is still King in my mind.
@OfTheCoast1234567
@OfTheCoast1234567 4 года назад
Same here. That Cloud and the voice actor, Steve Burton, is unbeatable.
@SobrietyandSolace
@SobrietyandSolace 4 года назад
@@OfTheCoast1234567 I melt every time I see that face and hear that voice, god damn.
@safaa9654
@safaa9654 4 года назад
the Remake has the best design possible. Seriously, they outdid themselves and he just couldn't look better
@lilerkal2583
@lilerkal2583 4 года назад
As long as someone can tell that it is Cloud then the design did its job right.
@willpoweramv
@willpoweramv 4 года назад
It's usually the big sword that gives it away
@isaacmettle
@isaacmettle 4 года назад
license_to_meme AND THE SPIKE BLONDE HAIR. TONED BODY!!
@KirbyGotenksabsorbed
@KirbyGotenksabsorbed 4 года назад
Seems like a pretty low bar to set for what constitutes a good design.
@janinegraser1156
@janinegraser1156 4 года назад
I mean you could like put that hair on a potato and it would be recognizable
@danbakitus9380
@danbakitus9380 3 года назад
So what you're saying is you're cool with world of Final Fantasy Cloud being in remake?
@Razor-Blade
@Razor-Blade 5 лет назад
I hope in the remake cloud has the same personality he had in the original, I dont really like emo cloud
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
From what we've seen so far... I think he will
@Razor-Blade
@Razor-Blade 5 лет назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn let's hope
@Killer_Kris7
@Killer_Kris7 5 лет назад
Cloud was never emo though. Just a soldier with PTSD
@alanfavoretto6761
@alanfavoretto6761 5 лет назад
@@Killer_Kris7 Anything after FFVII he was though His depictions in media outside of FFVII by SE has been very out of character. The Remake's cocky depiction brings back to the old days, and it is a sight of relief and a breath of fresh air.
@Killer_Kris7
@Killer_Kris7 5 лет назад
@@alanfavoretto6761 try going through the stuff he went through. Can you blame him for being depressed? He couldn't be depressed in ff7 because he had a villian to kill. In Advent Children he thinks it's over. And he has a deadly disease. So he's depressed for a reason. He's not emo
@jerryb4705
@jerryb4705 4 года назад
STOP CALLING HIM BLOCKY! That's All Muscles Br0!....
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Blocky ie cultivating mass bro
@magnumopus8124
@magnumopus8124 4 года назад
Lol wow "rip Zack, I'm gonna smash aerith!" 🤣
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Hoes b4 bros
@rich1051414
@rich1051414 4 года назад
"I'm going to be role playing as you, but she will be screaming MY name."
@yujiakweh
@yujiakweh 4 года назад
@@rich1051414 cursed comment...
@SigmaHayate
@SigmaHayate 4 года назад
A sexual fantasy with a fantasy character
@hamizanyunos1502
@hamizanyunos1502 3 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn I always thought Zack should be more brawny or muscular than Cloud because he actually was very physically fit to become a SOLDIER into First Class ranking. I always like Cloud to be more athletic and lean not overtly muscular akin to Spiderman not Superman. So the Remake version of Cloud in my opinion is most realistic and best one to me, he is not very scrawny but not overly muscular either. He is simply athletic and lean.
@RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing
@RyuseiiTheCrimsonKing 4 года назад
FF7 Cloud sticks with me due to his confident pose and just how serious he looks without being edgy or emo looking like future designs. Like Dissidia Cloud's art looks so depressed and mopey, he's not cool.
@jamesbrooks9321
@jamesbrooks9321 4 года назад
I don't think a video game character has ever been as posed as well as Cloud was in the original artwork, that's a work of art
@calebhickman4365
@calebhickman4365 4 года назад
Emo cloud is cool af
@TheUruse
@TheUruse 4 года назад
How do you feel if you save the world and then it turned out by saving the world you doom the world itself by giving it a uncurable disease? I like post 7 (Compilation), because it's not based on 90's anime hair. KH1 design is okay but not realistic.
@lioncross1849
@lioncross1849 4 года назад
I stick with the original buster sword design too. It’s not an elegant weapon with gold embellishments etc
@pikaboom6539
@pikaboom6539 4 года назад
Ryuseii such a generic and tired critique. Also “not cool”
@finnianheart
@finnianheart 4 года назад
"he was thinner than we thought" he got twinked lmao
@Yararar
@Yararar 4 года назад
Looks more appealing to women
@Emil-lf3no
@Emil-lf3no 4 года назад
Wasnt Cloud always skinny. I am used to Advent Children Cloud cuz I didn't have any game in which he was featured, when everyone said FF7 Remake's Cloud looks too feminine I was confused cuz he ain't looking much different from AC and when I saw the original art I was like "wtf he be looking like a emo femboy twink" so in my eyes Cloud became more masculine with time.
@C4DNerd
@C4DNerd 4 года назад
Absolutely agree that the FFVII Remake Cloud is the best he has ever looked (And, though we have only heard a small portion of his lines, I also think this is the best Cloud has ever SOUNDED too). The only thing I'm worried about with the Remake is the fact that it only takes place in Midgar, yet somehow requires 2 Blu-Ray discs. Midgar in the original was only really 5-6 hours long at most, and so I can only assume that 70% of the story in this remake is going to be added filler. Other than that, the gameplay looks solid, visuals are incredible, voice acting is amazing. Hoping it turns out great
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
It's going to have a lot of extra midgar stuff for sure. But I'm certain they can make it interesting rather than filler. Here's hoping!
@maxorigmvs5451
@maxorigmvs5451 4 года назад
I gotta go with the KH1 outfit due to it being nostalgic for me. That was the first time I ever saw him. The promotional art would be a close second.
@danbakitus9380
@danbakitus9380 3 года назад
Same
@krxxc.kk6
@krxxc.kk6 5 лет назад
I've always like the OG design for some reason.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
It's pretty great tbh. Iconic.
@jasonborne238
@jasonborne238 5 лет назад
I would just like to point out how cloud in the original FFVII looks almost identical to super Saiyan teen Gohan
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Completely agree, was actually going to put a screen shot of him in when I said the Super Saiyan line but forgot to lol
@logan6034
@logan6034 4 года назад
K
@jasonborne238
@jasonborne238 4 года назад
@@logan6034 ?
@LightningHornUnicorn
@LightningHornUnicorn 4 года назад
3:25 oh boy. that old lego graphics figure of cloud looks like popeye who joined a kpop band that was into japanese medieval army themes. no offense.
@ravengrant767
@ravengrant767 4 года назад
Lmao this comment goes hard
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox 5 лет назад
What about Cloud's original game battle model, since as I recall FFVII used better models for the battle scenes as the overworld (Though not as good as the cutscenes)? I'd love to say the artwork in the original FFVII, but Smash Cloud's main costume is so spot on to that design (albeit with less spiky hair) but rendered well that I have to go with that - I just prefer the purple to the more black/navy of the remake for him (though aside that the remake has a great take on his original design)
@michie123
@michie123 5 лет назад
Hair wise it’s a toss up. I love his asymmetrical hair style but I love how his hair looks on top in AC especially in Smash 5.
@QuestVHS
@QuestVHS 4 года назад
I personally really like the original design. There's a charm to it.
@ryjoy
@ryjoy 5 лет назад
Great video Mark! I cant believe just how many Cloud's there are all together. It's interesting to see the ways in which he's changed and the ways he's stayed the same. I also had no idea half of these looks even existed! I think its interesting how little the Buster Sword changed. Definitely an iconic piece so I understand not messing with it. It's interesting that KH had the most altered design for it!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Thank you! Glad you could find out a few new things! The sword is strange as I literally could find no info about it anywhere. Reminds me of Kisame from Naruto lol.
@manosmanos469
@manosmanos469 4 года назад
Original 1997 Cloud all the way! Nomura knew what he was doing!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
That original bit of art is awesome
@shadowstephen8296
@shadowstephen8296 5 лет назад
I think the remake design and Advent Children Cloud are equally skinny, especially in the arms.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
You think? I went back on the idea a lot but I definitely think Cloud looks more muscular here. Could be the outfit is putting more emphasis on his guns. 💪
@shadowstephen8296
@shadowstephen8296 5 лет назад
Zyngurj Pyrezbaf He looks tough but those arms could be more bulky.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
@@shadowstephen8296 he'll be ripped after the squatting minigame
@danbakitus9380
@danbakitus9380 3 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn Lmao
@An0therAssassin
@An0therAssassin 4 года назад
Let’s be honest though it’s a Gohan in piccolo clothing clone but damn he makes it look good
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Yeah that model is so much like gohan it's unreal 😂
@scoffeex1740
@scoffeex1740 5 лет назад
Please do a video about Sora's designs
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I'll put him in a future poll for sure!
@scoffeex1740
@scoffeex1740 5 лет назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn thanks
@betanick14
@betanick14 5 лет назад
This is a pretty good suggestion
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
@@scoffeex1740 no worries
@Salim-RS
@Salim-RS 4 года назад
I really do enjoy Original FF7 Cloud alot, plus I do love his FF Record Keeper look too. Side note on Record Keeper, it also has sprites for Advent Children and KH costumes for Cloud that he could use instead, which I adore.
@Ragiroth
@Ragiroth 4 года назад
The Advent Children outfit will always be my favorite
@tardistime6857
@tardistime6857 5 лет назад
That ps3 demo still hurts
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I know! At least the pay off was worth it though! Wonder how many people thought it was legit though?
@Chelaxim
@Chelaxim 5 лет назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn Most people thought it was going to be a remake even though it stated it was a tech demo. Just like the FFVI N64 tech demo,FFVIII PS2 tech demo and now people think Agni's Philosophy is FFXVI lol.But Agni's Philosophy could be FFXVI because this is the longest we've gone without even the slightest hint of the next numbered title.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
@@Chelaxim I legit had no idea about that ff8 ps2 demo, thanks for mentioning it!
@SkryptViciouz
@SkryptViciouz 4 года назад
I think so. Remake Cloud looks believable not cartoon/anime like. It's a tie between Remake and Advent Children to me.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Nice to have a lot of people agreeing on the new design! Square done good.
@SkryptViciouz
@SkryptViciouz 4 года назад
Yessir. I've been a fan, since I was a kid, of 7 and I'm hype they're keeping true to the story.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
@@SkryptViciouz I think there will be a few changes. But as long as it hits the same main beats I'll be happy!
@brianwallace2038
@brianwallace2038 4 года назад
5:14 I'm in love with that Final Fantasy Tactics desingn!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Its cool isn't it!
@The-Solo-Rider
@The-Solo-Rider 4 года назад
Advent Children design was the absolute best. Loved it & still love it. Best look Cloud has ever had. Although, it doesn't take away from the original. Always pay homage to the OG outfit. Always. Love you Cloud!
@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews
@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews 4 года назад
I like the Ehrgeiz cgi version of Cloud holding the Buster Sword behind his back.
@LinkSergilBelmont
@LinkSergilBelmont 4 года назад
Great video. How about make one about the Buster Sword too or other iconic video game weapons.
@user-dy5dz6zi6g
@user-dy5dz6zi6g 5 лет назад
“The price of freedom is steep” - The True Legend
@cross5464
@cross5464 4 года назад
I just realized something about cloud being skinny. Some people think that it's ridiculous because he has a big ass sword and it's impossible for him to wield. We forget that he was a SOLDIER meaning he has extraordinary strength because of that. Like what it's said in the game, he chose power over his normal life
@Klausiancliff89
@Klausiancliff89 Год назад
He never was in soldier
@BL00DY-CHAN
@BL00DY-CHAN 5 лет назад
Personally, I like all Cloud's designs. But there are some that I like more than others. Crisis Core Cloud is my favorite, I would say. He's a precious boy I need to protect. Look at this cute little scarf ! I'm dying ! DEVRJRHCAGEH. uwu I love his KH design so much. He's such a badass with this red scarf/cape and black demon wing. And let's not forget that bandaged Buster Sword ! FF7R Cloud looks awesome. I love that attention to the details like the damaged pauldron. And his woolen suit seems so realistic and soft ! I would like to touch it ! >w< Nice video ! It's interesting to see the evolution of Cloud through his multiple appearances. I'll show it to a friend, he might be interested. 👀
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I like them all too! Really fond of most of them. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for showing your friend. I really appreciate it!
@BlueberryShikua
@BlueberryShikua 4 года назад
This is my favorite character design video out of all of them you had made.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
That's awesome to hear! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! :}
@vanred7550
@vanred7550 4 года назад
In my opinion, the Cloud in AC had more natural body structure and muscle definition. The Remake Cloud looks thinner (nearly looks like sickly) but with more toned muscles
@cloudtg462
@cloudtg462 4 года назад
My personal favorite design is the Dissidia Nt design. Followed by the Remake
@Ymir_r
@Ymir_r 4 года назад
9:37 probably not the weirdest smile Sora has given tho Also great video!!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
True sora is a bit of a derp
@thisWinglessAngel
@thisWinglessAngel 4 года назад
You didn't mention his outfit in the G-Bike mobile game! I liked the biker look they gave him in there, it doesn't get enough attention.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Have had a look at g bike a bit recently, absolutely love the tifa design from it!
@MikeDaddy
@MikeDaddy 4 года назад
The Kingdom Hearts design is amazing to me because it’s actually different... Follow my streams at twitch.tv/mikedaddymcss
@Sean-D78
@Sean-D78 5 лет назад
Coming out of E3 *27 Jul 2019*
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Gotta go fast
@separator94
@separator94 5 лет назад
I liked his hand drawn representation from back when the original came out. It was in the book that came in the game case as well as the original strategy guide. The promotional art one. As far as his more realistic versions go I think the FFVII Remake Cloud looks the best. Better than Advent Children Cloud. Is there anyone else here that can't wait to see Yuffi in the remake?
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I'm looking forward to seeing Cid the most! Wondering if they are gonna tone down his dialogue at all 😂
@Alberto_Tellez
@Alberto_Tellez 3 года назад
The Cloud Strife design I like the most, of course, is the one used in the Final Fantasy VII Remake. Realistic. And I mean that it did take the original FFVII version and the Advent Children version and put them together into a demandingly realistic look complete with lots of wear-and-tear effects. Amazing. I'm not a Final Fantasy fan but I'm very pleased to support you, in fact *anyone,* in any video looking back at the design history of any video game character we please.
@zaytaz9331
@zaytaz9331 Год назад
How time flies huh Even this video is 3 years old!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn Год назад
Its wild! Nice to see people are still stumbling on some of these now though
@zaytaz9331
@zaytaz9331 Год назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn yep! I'm playing ff7 remake after 2 years of its release lmao
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn Год назад
I'm replaying it as well on steam deck and pc at present lol. Looking forward to finally getting to the extra content.
@jeom3808
@jeom3808 4 года назад
10:52 Bandaged *fusion* sword* (But yea i get what you mean, they just added the past bandages, i guess to keep them on the Keyblade that was tide with it)
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Didn't even realise they'd updated his sword to the AC style as well! Wonder why they kept the bandages still. 🤣
@jeom3808
@jeom3808 4 года назад
The Artist Mark Flynn X] My guess is that Nomura first made the keyblade design( “the Fenrir” ) based on clould’s first appearance and wanted to keep the bandages because he likes the look of them on the keyblade (so he had to keep them on cloud’s sword for people to understand the connection between the two.) Also maybe to keep the separation between the KH universe cloud and movie’s/ff7’s cloud 🤷‍♂️😅 -or it’s just nomura’s own weird rule of cool, which at the time included belts and bandages that wrapped around just about anything to make the design “cooler”...yea probably that. X)
@KonkeyVG
@KonkeyVG 5 лет назад
Maybe this is a bit niche but in a similar vein to Cloud's redesigns perhaps a look at the designs of Guts (Berserk) would be cool?
@mike9574
@mike9574 4 года назад
I personally really like the smash iteration due to him being my main since the launch of ultimate and I really love his classic design. It’s symbolic and reminds everyone that that also love Mario’s polygonal look
@ThePersonAwesome
@ThePersonAwesome 5 лет назад
I really love the original artwork as well as the dissidia art. The ingame models don’t look as great though. As far as Ingame models go, I think the FF7 remake is my favorite
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Good choice!
@johntitor1619
@johntitor1619 4 года назад
you only have 20k subs? bro the quality of this video is better than what most 100k+ channels would put out
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Cheers dude. Appreciate that!
@ThomasWilliamson
@ThomasWilliamson 4 года назад
Agreed! The new cloud looks amazing. I like the idea that you would be able to customize the characters in FF7 remake. You could give cloud his advent children outfit, or maybe his Kingdom Hearts one! Like wise with the other characters.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I think the different equippable weapons will definitely look different aesthetically too. Here's hoping for some customisation choices!
@ruiinomi
@ruiinomi 4 года назад
i personally really like the art style for Clouds Dissidia Final Fantasy depiction, possibly because it was one of the first games i picked up? really hyped for FF VII ✨
@JKSmith-qs2ii
@JKSmith-qs2ii 2 года назад
I’m really surprised you didn’t show clouds battle model from the PS1 game? That one looks better that the over world model.
@dracoerrarus4834
@dracoerrarus4834 4 года назад
Thought I’d mention that FF: Record Keeper has 2-D sprites of both the original purple outfit and the Advent Children outfit. And how did cross dressing not get mentioned in this video?!
@lordmegatron4789
@lordmegatron4789 4 года назад
the dissidia illustrations are just really nice
@mammothplant
@mammothplant 4 года назад
Cloud's lost a lot of his luster over the years, honestly. His OG design will always be my fav.
@AndrewWolfMan20
@AndrewWolfMan20 4 года назад
I believe Cloud was put into Smash( besides high demands from us fans) because FF7 was at one point gonna be on the SNES before being made into a PSX title. Also, since the FF series started on Nintendo generally, it makes sense they chose him to represent the series as a whole and since he's more well known. Just wanted to share my thoughts, but besides all that, my favorite Cloud design is definitely the remake with his Smash Bros look being second because it's a beautiful design of his original FF7 look!
@dillonkinder9296
@dillonkinder9296 4 года назад
Cloud looks funny with short hair since Advent Children to now
@davidoros3268
@davidoros3268 4 года назад
It's probably in the comments somewhere, but Final Fantasy Record Keeper also featured 16 bit sprite versions of KH Cloud and Advent Children Cloud! All three are very great representatives of each depiction of Cloud!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I nerd to check these out!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Meant to say need... Nerd seems appropriate though!
@belmontzar
@belmontzar 4 года назад
As goofy as it is, my fave outfit is probably his Kh1 look. I mean just look at it, its so so.. COOL man!
@davidoli
@davidoli 4 года назад
It's jarring how not many people knows Cloud shows up randomly on the FF5 load screen from the PS1 release in FF5 sprite style!! i can't even find a pic of it on the internet, it's a shame. Great vid!
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I'm pretty sure I heard about this once but it's laid lost in my brain until now! That's a cool thing to look out for! Cheers for watching!
@shadonicz
@shadonicz 4 года назад
i always thought that Cloud had the best PS1 looking model during the last fight against Sephiroth in the lifestream.His Ehrgeiz version always felt wrong to me somehow.
@666blaziken
@666blaziken 4 года назад
I think I will like ff7 remake game play, he plays like a cross between kh and there is a cool twist of the "bullet time" trope where there are turn based mechanics around that. If the game gets enough polish, I think it will be fantastic.
@KnightRaymund
@KnightRaymund 4 года назад
I love the look of a lot of characters in Record Keeper, including Cloud. His new look is great, though I guess I wish his color palate was a tad brighter. His shirt is very dark. Still, really nice.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
FF6 sprite style is the ultimate 2D style for me as far as final fantasy goes. Gutted that style is missing from a lot of mobile ports.
@georgielockhart6686
@georgielockhart6686 4 года назад
For me I love hia kingdom hearts 1 design but thats because I friggin LOVED Nomura's artwork for that game. Ill go with his original look after that. Also pleasr note i loathe Tifa's look in advent children/KH2 but i love her original look and think she looks great on the remake.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I think she looks great in the remake too tbh. Not sure why it got so much criticism.
@ShapeyFiend
@ShapeyFiend 5 лет назад
Anybody know why he's got a bandaged sword in Kingdom Hearts?
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I think samurai used to bandage their swords as a way to not damage them...but no idea why Cloud does in KH and not FF7 lol
@batzgameguru
@batzgameguru 5 лет назад
Regardless looks badass
@thatonedan7780
@thatonedan7780 4 года назад
Its prolly related to him "bandaging" or keeping the darkness inside of him hidden away
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
@@thatonedan7780 good guess!
@batzgameguru
@batzgameguru 4 года назад
@@thatonedan7780 I was thinking maybe cuz his blades too sharp and he didn't want an easy fight
@Shadow_of_Yharnam
@Shadow_of_Yharnam 4 года назад
Short answer : YES! All iterations of clouds OG design made his pants more fitted and streamlined and the remake went back to the baggy , triangular ‘90s styles pants he had from the original designs.
@onedankpotato610
@onedankpotato610 4 года назад
What's the music playing at 5:50? It sound's a lot like Crystalline Chill from FFXV
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
It's from Ehgreiz, pretty sure it's the ff7 prelude from that game.
@onedankpotato610
@onedankpotato610 4 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn Ahh I see, thank you!
@DemonDethchase
@DemonDethchase 4 года назад
The remake looks good though I kinda wish they went an anime cel shaded route, to try and recreate the CG cutscenes from the original title, as they did lean closer to Tetsuya Nomura's more manga/anime art style, compared to the chibi in game character models. Though my dream is to see IX remade with a cel shaded look that would recreate Yoshitaka Amano's artwork. Everything on the character, like hair, clothing and the stripes and patterns on them would wave, swirl and sway, so even if the characters were standing ideal, there'd still be some movement. Think like that bit from the Innuendo music video where it featured illustrations of the members of Queen and what accessories they had were moving and all that. It'll never happen ofcourse, but thats my dream
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Cel shaded anime style would've been nuts. Would be stylistically very different though and I'm quite happy with what we've currently got!
@DemonDethchase
@DemonDethchase 4 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn the idea for an anime direction came about was when we getting radio silence and with the nightmare development that was XV with numerous engine changes, and trying to get it running, I thought "what did Capcom do with Okami when it started, and they were shooting for the realistic look?" They went cel shaded and also found they got better performance as it wasn't as taxing on consoles. Just one of those crazy ideas you throw out knowing it'll happen
@DemonDethchase
@DemonDethchase 4 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn there was a thought that came to me a few days ago. As I said about it would have been nice to see FFVII remake recreate the art of Nomura with cel shaded graphics, I looking at the Sonic Adventure artwork and I thought, what with that rumoured Adventure remake being in the works, they should go cel shaded for that, as a means of bringing the art to life. Ofcourse it won't happen, much like my dream cel shaded Amano FFIX remake, but that is my (other) dream. Plus as well for it to be more like Resident Evil, as in taking the base game and expanding upon it, rather than the usual 1:1 remakes we're getting these days with Crash and Shadow of the Colossus to name some examples.
@safaa9654
@safaa9654 4 года назад
Reno looked absolutely fantastic in Advent Children you can fight me about this
@BellowDGaming
@BellowDGaming 4 года назад
I agree with you. FF7 Remake Cloud has to be the best, but the most badass has to be his Kingdom Hearts Vincent hybrid, those are my two favorite Cloud designs. As for illustration design Ehrgiez's 2D artwork from Tetsuya Nonomura is my fav.
@creativebodyflying
@creativebodyflying 4 года назад
I really like the job they did in the Remake and Advent Children Complete! I'd say I prefer his weapon set up, his clothing and the fact he owns a badass motorcycle from AC! They did amazing job on mimics too, both FF7r and AC.
@TheUruse
@TheUruse 4 года назад
The clothe got from black to dark blue because the constant of washing using bleach lol.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
At least he is clean.
@QueenViolet8
@QueenViolet8 4 года назад
I loved Advent Children! I could hardly believe how the characters were brought to the screen😃 looking forward to the remake for ps4.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Yeah advent children did a lot right. I'm working on some more ff7 videos pre the remake release so do keep an eye out!
@TRDGE
@TRDGE 4 года назад
Even though it's subjective... I've been playing FFVII like most of us since it first came out. However, just on a design perspective alone, I loved his appearance in Advent Children. I can't believe its been about 15 years since it was first released in Japan in 2005... but when I first saw his new rendering it was so awesome to see such a beloved character fully fleshed out like that and despite FF7 Remake coming out, AC Cloud still has my #1 pick.
@PurpleSnake
@PurpleSnake 4 года назад
Wait. He's Smash design most resemble his Dissidia design, does it not? I mean look at the ever so slightly slimmer pants and how his right glove is fingerless rather than a standard glove. Although, the color on the suit is definitely more inspired by his original appearance seeing as how his Dissidia counter-part has a darker tone to it.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I don't think it most resembles the Dissidia design purely on his hairstyle alone tbh
@marche800
@marche800 5 лет назад
Oooh this is an interesting one.
@druvjuice6906
@druvjuice6906 4 года назад
Reno is a supermodel who models for gangster clothes
@hyde7100
@hyde7100 5 лет назад
I'm glad I main Cloud in SSBU
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
I do as well. He's awesome!
@Nic_2751
@Nic_2751 5 лет назад
Next up: which is the best Mega-Man design?
@cloudlink2810
@cloudlink2810 4 года назад
My favorites are his smash designs (not his alt) and the FF7 main artwork
@SolSilvr007
@SolSilvr007 4 года назад
Though the remake design is the best, my favorite design of his is from Dissidia Duodecim when he was one of the Warriors of Chaos. The outfit was based on his Amano artwork.
@madestmadhatter
@madestmadhatter 4 года назад
Not mentioning the fight sequence cloud that was a mid point between world map cloud and cut scene cloud, but literally showing it in the background while talking about how he was only ever polygon itsy when you played as him.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I have no idea how I missed it tbh! Have a section on it in my upcoming Sephiroth video!
@MegaMar14
@MegaMar14 4 года назад
He was in Dirge of Cerberus too.
@Killer_Kris7
@Killer_Kris7 4 года назад
That was still his advent children design
@m0m02k
@m0m02k 5 лет назад
Kingdom Hearts 2 Cloud would like to Disagree
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
You mean Vincent?
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Actual mindfuck at your edit
@SilverHawkKohaku
@SilverHawkKohaku 4 года назад
You should check the Dissidia Final Fantasy NT design :o his face different and they've just recently added his Kingdom Hearts 1 clothes into the game :3
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I'll have to check that out! Kingdom Hearts cloud must look cool in better graphics
@cajunlady5838
@cajunlady5838 4 года назад
Oh holy shyt. My movie theater had that arcade cabinet. It was DOOOOPE
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
No way! Would love to actually see one of them in person
@separator94
@separator94 5 лет назад
Really good idea for a video.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 5 лет назад
Thank you! Lots more character design videos on the channel if you are interested!
@glimmerxp
@glimmerxp 4 года назад
Song at 7:20 ?
@jtdreamworld
@jtdreamworld 4 года назад
What about the Amano ff7 art?
@TYbudgie
@TYbudgie 4 года назад
I dislike the revised design of the buster sword. One of my favorite qualities of the original game was that Shinra's advanced tech was an anomaly in an otherwise low-tech fantasy world. I always dug that the buster sword just looked like a hunk of iron beaten together. Hopefully the roughness of the original world isn't entirely smoothed over in the remake.
@Articuno224
@Articuno224 4 года назад
My personal favorites are: FF7 Remake Cloud Dissidia NT Cloud Smash Cloud Original FF7 Cloud KH2 Cloud Advent Children Cloud They're not in any specific order though, just all the ones I like the most. I've also seen some pretty good fan-made Cloud models in Jump-Force, GTA and Dead or Alive. (at least I think they're pretty good)
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
I'll have to look at the jump force one. That'd be interesting to see!
@Shubocchi
@Shubocchi 4 года назад
advent children cloud and kh2 cloud is the same xd
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
@@Shubocchi it's the same outfit sure, but graphic capabilities make them look completely different. One is semi realistic and one is more anime like.
@Articuno224
@Articuno224 4 года назад
@@ArtistMarkFlynn Exactly!
@russellhattal3328
@russellhattal3328 4 года назад
But, what about Cloud's in game model during battles...
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 4 года назад
I know it's way better this most of his modern designs, especially his Advent Children one.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Agreed
@Patricwithnok
@Patricwithnok 4 года назад
My only gripe with cloud in the remake is the clothes being black. I always liked the purple.
@goddamnarshia
@goddamnarshia 4 года назад
I really like the design from advent children. Hope it makes it in remake
@jonathanfrancisco6910
@jonathanfrancisco6910 4 года назад
I think the remake Cloud looks great too, but I think his delts should be a bit bigger. Wouldnt mind his hair being just a tiny bit more exaggerated as well but overall... A+
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
Agreed! I think it's as good as we're gonna get tbh
@precurrentgaming5300
@precurrentgaming5300 4 года назад
Really hard to compare designs from different eras and engines. Even the old looks good in its own way if you understand the capabilities and artistic look they were going for at the time.
@ArtistMarkFlynn
@ArtistMarkFlynn 4 года назад
It's true, definitely a challenge. This is basically, 'personal preference: the series'.
@precurrentgaming5300
@precurrentgaming5300 4 года назад
For sure. I did like the non-traditional style used in kingdom hearts 1, but it is clearly not going for the true Cloud look. It's more of an interpretation of who the character is pertaining to that game as you mentioned in the video. So I wouldn't say it is the true Cloud just a cool unique version.
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