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Final Fantasy Tactics: These 3 Sequels Rocked, and I'm Dying on That Hill. 

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Yes, the Tactics Advance Games are great, and I'm not going to pretend they're not. Art is art, if every painting was a blueprint for a Dodge Viper, the walls of the world would truly suck.
Yes, I also get sidetracked easily.
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0:00 Intro
0:49 Vagrant Story
19:32 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
1:00:08 FFTA 2 GotR
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@Pacifo
@Pacifo Месяц назад
The thing that i love of the Advanced series it's the Aesthetics, The music, the colors, the variety of races, and the variety of options to choose from in classes is what I love about that part of the saga.I hope that for the remaster (if it is a remaster of FFT Advanced and not the original), that exciting aesthetic remains
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's really got that "they gave this their all" feeling for sure.
@EpilepticFoliage
@EpilepticFoliage Месяц назад
100% agreed. While it's definitely different from FFT and that may have turned off fans of the original, I think they really nailed that feeling of adventure and fantasy.
@drinkingandgaming
@drinkingandgaming Месяц назад
For Vagrant Story you are an agent for the government, not the church.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Checks out, it always confuses me 🤣
@superchiefdunga5394
@superchiefdunga5394 Месяц назад
Grimoire of the Rift is my favorite DS game easily.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Same. Oddly enough followed by Soul Silver and Resident Evil, of all things. What a beautiful oddball of a console.
@elsaeed747
@elsaeed747 Месяц назад
I still listen to the ending staff roll music of Vagrant Story, an absolute masterpiece.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
That whole ending theme is quite the piece.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Timestamp: 0:00 Intro 0:49 Vagrant Story 19:32 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 1:00:08 FFTA 2 GotR
@laylaalder2251
@laylaalder2251 Месяц назад
29:32 for FFTA dear. Typoed the first digit.
@blake.1312
@blake.1312 Месяц назад
Vagrant Story genuinely is one of the best games in the PS1, period. It received one of the highest accolades by a very respected japanese video games magazine, being the 3rd game to receive the highest praise by it, which was not given willy nilly. One of my first games in the PS1, I brute-forced my way through 3/4 of the way as a child and could not bear to continue. A work I learnt to appreciate the complexity of, both in the mechanics of combat and the story. I'll see what the other two games are like! Excited to find out 😄
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's wildly good for such a weird idea.
@chaoticbravealisdair2925
@chaoticbravealisdair2925 Месяц назад
One thing I should bring up is how both Parasite Eve and MGS1 pre-dated Vagrant Story. You're definitely right that VS is a god-tier game though, and I like the names you gave each custom weapon.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
I recall hearing from several sources that VS started development first, never really thought to check it. You're sure?
@chaoticbravealisdair2925
@chaoticbravealisdair2925 Месяц назад
For what it's worth, VS started development before either were out, but it started development in January 1998, while MGS1 and PE were out in September 98 and March 98 respectively. PE was also stated to have been in development for two years, which suggests that it started work in 1996, and MGS1 was in the works since 1994. A lot of VS' internal files also go as early as 1998.
@chazmaru9583
@chazmaru9583 Месяц назад
⁠And to answer another question in the Vagrant Story segment, Star Wars Episode I (May 1999) was also out a bit less than a year before before Vagrant Story (Feb 2000).
@chaoticbravealisdair2925
@chaoticbravealisdair2925 Месяц назад
I find it funny how both works started with a subtitle called "The Beginning" before being switched to something with "Phantom" in the title. My guess with Vagrant Story was that the change was done in case there weren't any more.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 Месяц назад
@@chaoticbravealisdair2925 One has to consider the stage of development MGS was even at in 94'. I think you mean planning also in some instances, because development implies the game is actually being put together.
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Месяц назад
The thing that most people miss about Ritz, is that her strong desire to not leave the fantasy world, is largely due to her hair being naturally white from a young age, and it obviously making her seem much older than she is, whereas in the fantasy world, white hair is seen as beautiful, especially among Viera, and thus is why she always runs with a crew full of Viera including her best friend Shara. Easily one of my favorite points of this game that is easily missed if you only played this as a kid. Mewt's problems are more obvious. But Marche wanting to go back, is mainly due to how he doesn't have anywhere near as many problems in the real world as everyone else, so he comes across as selfish for wanting to take away everyone else's joy. Even his brother Doned does not want to go back, obviously because he can actually use his legs in the fantasy world and enjoy life as a kid, rather than in the real world being crippled and having to miss out on the best parts of life. Truly a sad story overall, and it can easily be overshadowed by the fun gameplay if you aren't paying enough attention.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's a really cool type of melancholy vibe once it sinks in, though.
@linksbetweendrinks7032
@linksbetweendrinks7032 Месяц назад
Mewt and Doned, even Marche is compelling in his lack of realization why his friends don't want to leave. Mewt wants his mom back and Doned doesnt want to be sick and crippled anymore. Showing you how hair dye works is way, way down the list of issues here, Ritz.
@plottingpoet3875
@plottingpoet3875 Месяц назад
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance was my introduction to the tactics genre, it might be the childhood bias but it the story captivated my imagination and glued myself to the genre & gameplay for my entire life.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's a really cool, twisted take on a lot of ideas, I like it, too.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Corrections: 19:40- Spells are randomized, I got distracted 😂
@jamesk2325
@jamesk2325 Месяц назад
1: I fight alongside you on this hill 2: while true, it hurts to hear someone confidently assert the odds are good the viewer hasn't heard of Vagrant Story. Such a great game. :(
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
To be fair.. it's like they didn't want it to sell
@procow2274
@procow2274 Месяц назад
Wouldn't FFTA and FF12 by association be FFT prequels not sequels since moogles are already extinct in fft and there are remnants of a advanced civilization?
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
That's a good point, never thought about it like that. Figured maybe it was a Pokemon situation and people eventually got way too furry and permanently turned tech majors into stuffed animals, while the models got bunny'd. The lizards clearly just marched down from heaven.
@ehko9989
@ehko9989 Месяц назад
Vagrant Story was such a cool game. I don't even know if I'd want a Vagrant Story remake as a side note. The ps1 version of the game is just so damn crisp and unique, any attempt at modernising it visually would probably hurt the vibe of the game more than anything else. But I'd take a new game with the same formula anytime.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
That's what I mean, all they'd need to touch up is the mechanical side. Surely there's some way to declutter that mess TOR style.
@blumiu2426
@blumiu2426 Месяц назад
There wouldn't be a point in a remake as SE won't consider a pitch for the sequel Mitsuda has had for decades now. The story would need to be finished before delaying for what would end up being not just waiting for update and gameplay changes that would bother it's fans, but also revisions and possible censorship from SE. It would be a different beast which would ensure the sequel would not be as intended. I couldn't see Mitsuda going along with as he likes sole control of his projects.
@elsaeed747
@elsaeed747 Месяц назад
Imagine if you could recruit Ashly Riot in Tactic OR 😊
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
You basically can make Ashley Riot, just go Lord route.
@Zectifin
@Zectifin Месяц назад
if you like FFTA I highly recommend checking an indie game that just came out called "Trash of the Titans". Its a roguelike tactics game where you play animals fighting off hordes of rats and its a very good tactics game and feels like it was inspired by FFTA the most. Its early access right now and a bit light on content, but it was worth the purchase IMO.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
I'll see if I spot it, doesn't sound familiar off the top of my head.
@Jasonwfd
@Jasonwfd Месяц назад
The Lunatic Vein is my new band name
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Gotta mainline them beats
@thelegacyofgaming2928
@thelegacyofgaming2928 Месяц назад
FFTA was my childhood. Always liked it better FFT. Especially gameplay wise. FFTA2 I didn't even know existed until years after its release, but the OST's in that game are legendary, especially when fighting the 5 kings. But my gosh, one of the final battles in this game is just straight up unfair.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Cincleur boss fight absolutely rocks, amen on that! Also Brightmoon Tor music is amazing chill out stuff.
@jvdach4652
@jvdach4652 Месяц назад
​@CoffeePotato the OST is great since most of the big fight musics are from FF12.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
@@jvdach4652 All 3 of these are banger soundtracks, no wonder they were reused.
@procow2274
@procow2274 Месяц назад
I still say getting carded for using a item during a no holy rule is unfair. :( Having a permanent stat debuff is also unfair
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
But it can be solved by paying the judge. No legal system has ever been fair...only orderly.
@procow2274
@procow2274 Месяц назад
@@CoffeePotato i don't remember a option to pay to avoid the stat debuff but it has been a long time.
@ahmedfalahy9337
@ahmedfalahy9337 Месяц назад
Debuff is permanent, iirc
@Blakobness
@Blakobness Месяц назад
Vagrant Story is a game I always wanted to go back and do a full play through, something I never had managed to do. The game is great, thematically and artistically wonderful, very complicated mechanically; but just a very hard game for me to stick to and finish.
@doha057
@doha057 Месяц назад
God damn!! First one is a magnificent masterpiece, sadly I regret not finishing it, might go back, I just get bogged down by newer fancier stuff at the time. Vagrant Story is one of the best game you will ever play folks, it deserves a remake. FFTA is misunderstood in all aspects, anyone who says its a children's story, probably never even go beyond tutorial screen, and like you said, the law system is severely misunderstood, but that's exactly why the Jagged areas are so fun yet feels scary in early game. Trust me the story is relatable way more than you think, its not a cliché save the world from great terror, more like make and fix your perfect world. About FFT A2, people should realize, it didn't sell very well at the time and thus became rarer and the price went way up, because they realized later what a fantastic game it really was. Anyway, fantastic review, you sold all three games perfectly, SquareEnix should hire you 😁People, don't miss any of these.
@michaeldenzer5042
@michaeldenzer5042 Месяц назад
Never had a chance to enjoy A2, but VS FFTA were great and are fond childhood memories for this 31-year-old, even though as a kiid vagrant stories went waaaay over my head.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Same, it ages like fine wine.
@elsaeed747
@elsaeed747 Месяц назад
Oh my God, Vagrant Story, please a remake Sony. I’ll give up my left kidney.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
New kidney damage mechanics in the remake 🤣
@ahmedfalahy9337
@ahmedfalahy9337 Месяц назад
The Law system in FFTA is hated by many folks but I really like it just like you. Can potentially bind non-boss enemies by applying new laws. Nothing is funnier than having a group of monsters who somehow understand laws and you just put a law that bans damage on moogles with a full moogle team 🤣 And the law is there to have the player always be ready to adapt and not just using the same old boring team composition for every fight
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Harambe had.a shot, he just needed to use the Anti Laws. 🥲
@Regdren
@Regdren Месяц назад
I remember playing a little bit of Vagrant Story on one of those old game store displays that let you try things out. I was too young to appreciate any of the political stuff but I was struck by something when I first came across those floating platforms. Floating platforms are video game staples, they're all over the place. But an NPC went completely nuts over how bizarre it was, and it took me a second to go like...actually yeah. If I saw something like that I'd freak out too. Lovely little moment there that made the game stand out for me.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
I love that scene, and points to the one store that did something like that! Reminds me of the bizarre moment of only being able to find Silent Line at a Sam's club demo kiosk of all things...they didn't even stock it.
@procow2274
@procow2274 Месяц назад
It does bring up a lot of existential thoughts. Are the characters in the world just fantasy brought to life like a dream or are they actually real sentient beings created through magic? Why is the dad the only one who doesn't remember the real world? Is it a memory block or is he a new entity just based on the real one? Depending on how you interpret things this kids game may have you playing as someone willing to commit mass genocide just to restore the status quo. 😿
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
That's what I'm saying! It's such a fun head space!
@ahmedfalahy9337
@ahmedfalahy9337 Месяц назад
I think the fantasy world is separate from the real one. Montblanc shows up in FFTA2 and he remembers Marche. So the ending of FFTA is basically the fantasy separates from reality, returning everything to normal. Little spoilers of FFTA2: Luso's teacher is the same Mewt and when Luso tells him of the fantasy world, Mewt believes him
@AZOLO64
@AZOLO64 Месяц назад
Yeah Montblanc can be killed, i remember playing that part where there are no judges and bro got offed. Man i should replay these games one day.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's such a cool way to have a mechanic in there subtly.
@lucianoemmanuelramirez1304
@lucianoemmanuelramirez1304 Месяц назад
Square enix needs to bring back Ivalice Alliance... Ivalice its the best setting of all FF games...
@Kai_Ning
@Kai_Ning Месяц назад
Vagrant Story is one of my favorite game. It's one or the three or four game i even bothered to buy the ost to have the physical object. From gameplay to story and the directing, it's a masterpiece However, the game is kind of already perfect in my eyes, it only need 4K textures if it's ever remade. Not even 16:9 'cause i fear a Buffy Blu ray situation for cutscene and all. If you have no idea about what they did to Buffy The Vampire slayer when it hit blue ray, you should all go look at it. It's trully a nightmare bedstory. Hell, i think i'd prefer watch a 4k fully animated 3D movie or TV show using the exact same shot from the game at this point over a remake. Just because they'd probably ruin the perfect balance that game had. FFTA, i finished it but i think i spent too much time interacting with the system and didn't follow the story that closely. I can't really remember much about it and have no drive to replay that game. A2, i bought, booted up and maybe played for half an hour. It's one i really should try to play one day. And on another unraleted to today's videotopic i'm kind of half in awe atm. One of my brother went to a trip to japan last month, i finaly saw him today he just gave me the japanese version of the original secret of mana in perfect condition as a souvenir gift while casualy saying "and i got myself that" and bringing out the original super famicom version, also in perfect condition or Tactics Ogre and Dragon Quest 6. It's impossible to get your hands on that stuff here, yet in japan you can have them for almost nothing.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It just needs more elegant mechanics, I'm sure they can find a way to make crafting not....what would you even call that? It's not even obtuse, it just doesn't really make sense no matter how many times I've re-read it. That said, silver lining, when Legend of Mana got a remaster, they vastly improved a crafting system with very similar issues.
@Kai_Ning
@Kai_Ning Месяц назад
@@CoffeePotato Vagrant Story was that weird game where when i read about the system in faq it seems out of this world but when playing it, i had no trouble crafting whatever i wanted or needed. It was weird. And speaking of LoM remake, i wouldn't know. It's goddamn broken beyond repair on steamdeck and they clearly don't intend to fix it. Same for the Chrono Trigger music reseting after each battle immersion killing bug to :s
@azurekite6547
@azurekite6547 Месяц назад
I wanted to ask did you play ff12 revenant wings ? If so what do you think of it ?
@benedict6962
@benedict6962 Месяц назад
Wait, the HP number is DAMAGE, not PART HP. THAT EXPLAINS SO MUCH.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
Matsuno Misunderstandings absolutely needs to be an episode some day.
@linksbetweendrinks7032
@linksbetweendrinks7032 Месяц назад
Great video! Advanced certainly does have an underrated story, but it was succeeding one of the best video game stories of all time and was therefore a little overshadowed. I personally didn't love Advanced, because it had a fundamental problem that killed it for me. And I'm not even talking about the atrocious judge system. All the classes were so similar. Every class had an aoe attack, a single square distanced damage attack, a way to heal themselves, buffing and debuffinf abilities. It made class choice pretty inconsequential. Also, Ritz just falls short in a blatantly sexist way from the writers. Mewt doesn't want the fantasy world to go away because the loss of his mother in the real world. Doned is sick and dying in the real world and healthy and powerful in the fake one. Ritz thinks dyeing her hair is too hard in the real world. What? What a stupidly sexist and asinine reason to fight against Marche when you have the emotionally compelling and understandable motivations of of the other two. Mewt wants his mother back, Doned doesn't want to die, Ritz thinks it's a little easier to be pretty. They really dropped the ball writing her, when they could obviously have done so much better.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
I prefer to see Ritz's thing as a bit of a misleading one. She goes on about the hair, but her story in general seems to be more about her hiding severe self consciousness more than anything. Like with the constant attacks on people for fairly mundane things. She's insecure, and overcoming her insecurity is her arc, not just the hair. It's just an obvious stand-in that ties her to the world. It ties her to the friend group that she doesn't want to lose for fear of going back to being her old self and such.
@Ehins
@Ehins Месяц назад
Ah yes FFTA2, or how to dual wield scepters and maul the whole map 😂
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
How to Ether Cannon infinite MP.🤣
@Ehins
@Ehins Месяц назад
@@CoffeePotato might be a good video. Most broken combo in strategy games by CoffeePotato. I will reserve the front seat. 👍
@marthder9916
@marthder9916 22 дня назад
It always weirded me out how haters hate on tactics advanced simply because it is different from the original, and think that that is a valid reason. like wtf??? how is that even a reasonable concern???
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato 21 день назад
People will always find a reason to be angry.
@erabbit777
@erabbit777 Месяц назад
How can I play Vagrant?
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It's on PSN, but only Vita and PS3. It badly needs a rerelease.
@erabbit777
@erabbit777 15 дней назад
@CoffeePotato you're awesome dude. Love your content. Just wanted to say that TOR is to Tri. STRA. What gran turismo is to need for speed.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato 15 дней назад
@@erabbit777 Thanks! Also, yeah, I can see that.
@RatedB1
@RatedB1 Месяц назад
FFTA is great, FFTA2 I couldn't play at all because I hated the main character, I thought he was an idiot.
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
He was definitely an absolute dumbass, but after Front Mission 3, the dude looks like a certified genius. 🤣
@maverick5169
@maverick5169 Месяц назад
The issue with FFTA is that there is a cool game buried under lots of annoying shit that you just have to push through in order to enjoy it - Unlike Ramza who has equal stats, or Denam who can be manipulated at the beginning in every TO version, Marche is heavily geared towards physical attack and that's it, if you want to play mage go fuck yourself I suppose. So much for class choices - Want more of a specific race? You gotta hope rng is kind to you with the race and that the character is naturally built towards the class you want - Some of the laws are simply stupid. No basic attack in the early game? Really? I'll sure gonna enjoy my using my thief that I cannot use - You do need a guide for learning skills since some weapons teach you nothing - Nice hit rates bro - The judge in the map can outright get in your way, he could just stay in an isolate tile so that he doesn't have to move around. Why do I have to waste time watching him moving 20 tiles? The game is already as slow as it is I get that Matsuno was going for realism, but if realism becomes a hindrance I don't care about it. And I'll gladly play a bad game over a decent but annoying one
@CoffeePotato
@CoffeePotato Месяц назад
It wasn't a Matsuno game, just to throw that out there. He did FFT, Vagrant Story, and TO. The others were given to other folks. That said, I've never really been one to agree with that notion that minmaxing comes first. Playing around the weirdness leads to interesting outcomes. Maybe folks will try races of units they hate. The judge can get in your way, sure, but the entire legal system is there as an ever present wrench in the works to make you adapt to weird situations. Basic attacks are basic attacks, now banning poison, now we have an issue 😂. But no, the other guys also can't use basic attacks, so what you're left with is two teams on the back foot, and that's pretty cool in my eyes. It puts everyone in the challenge run mindset.
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