My problem with this is I have failed to hear him acknowledge Jesus, his relationship with Jesus and what Jesus has said to him personally. He is following religion .
He is following his feelings. That’s a lot of blood on his hands. Because God will judge not just on how he is composing his own gospel but a lot of blood on his hands from the way many people are receiving the message. May God open ears and eyes to see and hear and show them the truth. I’m not judging anyone but I will say to find a spirit filled church that know how to pray in the spirit and cast out whatever keeping bondage. Satan is very real and I can see the jezabel spirit flowing in that place deceiving my heart just aches because I know there’s people in there that are genuinely seeking Gods face and dont know how.
“Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me.” Matthew 16:24
If only I could find an accepting SDA church, sometimes I feel like I have to choose between my bisexuality and God. [EDIT: To all the self-proclaimed Christians telling me to choose between my identity and my faith, I hope you know you’re the reason why so many of younger people don’t go to church. You make it hard to worship God in an environment where people decide to make it their business to judge. Leave that job to God.]
No, just bisexuality and Christianity. The Bible explicitly states that homosexuality is wrong. God, on the other hand, doesn't care (and she had nothing to do with that piece of shit called the 'Bible').
I am bi and Christian. Having struggled with the same "contradiction," I can tell you it is no easy feat to come at peace with (even I still struggle with it every now and again). All my life I have grown up in a Baptist church and have been told the same things that, no doubt, some person will reply to my comment with. All essentially rules and none talking about the love of God. When my home church found out, very recently, I had a girlfriend they attempted to reach out to "pray for me" and have contacted my parents. My parents are, obviously, against it but still love me. They made it apparently clear that they would never accept it and that breaks my heart (but they still love me of course). However, all I can think about is how happy she makes me and that they don't see my happiness because they only see our outward appearances. At college I have found a, somewhat accepting, church and we attend regularly. I have encouraged her to come with me to our college group and, despite the potential prejudice we could experience, she still continues to come with me because she loves me and wants to learn. I write this all out to show those that it is possible and to give encouragement. Don't give up when times seem tough, God always has a plan for everyone.
JustJake At least you have the choice too disregard and leave a loved relationship too make the choose that is “Right” and fall in love with another person. You see how this is a faulty thinking you fall in love with people bases off a lot of things you can’t just choose to date the opposite gender
I am Bi and was raised in a Baptist home. All my uncles are pastors, and my papa. So I fully understand your struggles. I am put to my siblings and my closest friends. They all accept me. I fear the same with my parents. I know they will always love me. But I know they wont fully accept it.
@rayjames303 Books have been left out, there's been translations which invariably change the text just by virtue of how language works. You can't seriously think such an old document has gone entirely unchanged.
Historically, Christians have not been the most supportive we could've been towards the LGBTQ+ community. As children of God, we are all created in his image. It's sad that many in this community have commited suicide for not feeling God loves them. We need to show them, regardless of if you agree with their choices, that God loves them as he created them and that he doesn't hate his children.
British Fire God hates no human being however he does hate Sin. We can’t change the word of God because we struggle with denying our fleshly desires🤷🏿♀️
Dear comment section... The ability to read does not make you inteligent... I never think I am right in anything, but hope. If you say, that the Bible is God’s word but you do not consider that it was written down in the past by people who lived at that time in a culture that was different than ours, you are not considering that it was written in other language, culture where words did not meant the same. Have you ever learned language? Have you ever translated a text that seemed that it meant more in the other language or it means more in yours? Have you ever go across a book in a library or bookshop what meant a little bit different for you than some one other? We are different, we learnt in different places and different times. How could we understand fully God’s word if we are still not understanding God’s created world?
@@alexnadermoisesalmonte4222 And no one said that it is. It is God's word written down and translated many times I believe most of the time with good intensions. But we are created we are not the creator, we CAN fail to write or see with the hands and eyes of the Holy Spirit. The Bible is not a book that you can understand word by word, it is not its never expiring word, I may be wrong, but I would definitely have lost my belief if I would read it that way. It is not a history book, it was written in history.
@@szushycat The Bible does give us an understanding of the world we live in and we have all the original manuscript to refer back to for context. We also have history of the time to have a better understanding of the culture. God's word makes everything clear. God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). God also tells us that my people are destroyed by a lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6).
elijah moore Have you ever learned neurobiology from the Bible? It has not described ever so you should have not. It is not a science book, but science is trying to understand God’s creation. I wrote we are not understanding FULLY the world God created and due to we are not able to connect all of its aspect to His word. The Corinthians 14 is about preaching and as interesting as it is, it never even mentions the Bible as the source of the preaching. The letter is about how not preach using only your faith but preach with knowledge and thought. It even says that it is better to preach a few word with meaning than many coming only from faith. This part of the Bible also has the bias that women should not preach because of their lack of knowledge that they should learn from their husband. If you look at it at that way, it can even mean women should learn to be able to preach at that time. So if we see this as it was written at a time where women were not able to educate themselves it is not even biased. Interesting enough, I looked up the letter (Corinthians 14) in my language and read 2 different translation, both of it translated the verse (Corinthians 14 33) the way that the English author world would mean God as a causer instead of a writer and I deffinitely can see that in the English translation also, but I have not seen it as it is out of context.
There are only two kinds of people in the end: Those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "Thy will be done." C. S. Lewis When we see or read Scripture through the eyes or soul of men, we get religion. But if we read Scripture through CHRIST we get the truth. Billy Graham said once, when he was asked, "What's wrong with society, is that it wants to make GOD to its image, instead of it been to the image of GOD. At the end, man's religion is man making GOD to its image. And at the end what really counts, is going to be when we go before THE LORD. GOD bless
@Laura Streeter If I didn't had a soul, I would consider what your implying. So how can we prove that there is no GOD? And, do people have souls? Or, are we just biological chemicals and matter? Are we just a bunch of million of cells put together randomly? Does the solar system is just a randomly group of celestial bodies out there with no purpose, just going around? Everything that exists has a purpose, other wise it would not exist. But coming back to human beings. Are we just a creatures that pop out of nothing without a purpose? Trying to find GOD outside the Bible?! Why does everything in existence has a purpose? And who made it? Why those the planet need four seasons to support life? Why do some animals as soon as they are born they do certain things? Who gave them or put their instincts in those animals? And they all and everything else has an order, otherwise it would not come to been. Who arranged all of the nature around us? Was it all spontaneous and came to be on its own? And if so, why isn't their another planet in our solar system that can support life? What kind of proof does some need of GOD? The proof of GOD is within us, we bear his image. Whether we choose to believe it or not. And that's another proof of HIM and HIS image of HIM. We are free to believe in HIM or not. That's why in the ancient world some men would declare themselves gods. That's why we have the Greek mythology amongst other myths of different cultures since the beginning of human civilization. Isn't weird that since the beginning of civilization some men felt themselves as been as gods? Why was that? And even now some people feel themselves as gods? Looking for evidence of GOD outside the Bible, just look in the mirror, and ask your self. Why do I exist, what made my body to have a perfect composition of cells that they know what their doing and each one knows it purpose? How is that possible? And we were given freedom to believe in GOD or not. When some refuse to believe that there is no GOD. It is granted to them, and they don't believe. If something does not exist, why argue that it doesn't exist? The things that don't exist do not exist we don't even acknowledge them, cause they simply don't exist. Why do I believe in GOD, cause I know HIM. Like I said in the beginning, if didn't had a soul I would consider what was implied about GOD not existing. GOD bless you.
When God noticed that Adam was without a partner, He just didn't create any kind of partner . He created a woman for him. He was very definite and very clear. He didn't create a woman and a man for Adam to choose which of them he would want to go with. He had made that decision alone. And the decision wasn't ambiguous, neither was it left to Adams emotional feelings. And that wasn't for Adam alone, all the animals were also male and female. The Dr was not fare to the scriptures. He didn't do a good exegesis, he allowed the tide to influence his interpretation of the word of God.
For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions. ~ 2 Timothy 4:3
The “Christians” in these comments are the exact reason I left the church. These type of people are the same reason I ended up in the hospital on suicide watch as well. I only found real happiness and freedom when I was able to finally live as I am. I lost so many people in my life because of it, and I have never regretted that. I lost them, but I gained myself.
I am sad and sorry for you that you felt not accepted or loved. But this man lies and a lot of people don’t understand the truth about God and that is that he loves everyone most importantly sinners, as we all are. God does not hate gays or anyone else. God is love and God cannot hate. He gave his son up to die a gruesome death so that whoever believes in him has everlasting life! John 3:16. I am a sinner but just because I believe in Jesus, God sees me as righteous, saved and forgiven. Maybe you didn’t understand that, or maybe just reading these comments makes you think you are not loved or accepted, but the truth is that most of us may not know how to say it, or most of us can’t understand Gods love and compassion for each and everyone of us. But a true friend does not let a friend fall off a cliff, they want to save you. We have to tell you the truth so you can turn away from the cliff Nd walk in the right path to be saved
Seeker Finder no ❤️ I’m very happy just as I am. I don’t care what anyone thinks 🤷🏻♀️. I already lost my family. Random strangers on the internet are not going to change my mind.
Sarah, I’m glad that you found happiness... my comment really is not for now but your eternal future. I’m not trying to convince anyone just giving you information on how it’s not how others treat you that is important but how God loves you.
Matthew 16:26 "For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?" You traded your soul and future for happiness and self esteem. I love you but you need to repent and turn from your emotions which enslave you.
There's no heart that He can't win! No shame, no past no kind of sin! No power on Earth, high or below can keep us from His brilliant throne! He is Grace finished indeed! He calls to every part of me. Now every lie inside of me packs their bags to run and flee! There is power in the name of Jesus! To break every chain!
I love how all these people are on here saying homosexuality is a sin but they still eat pork and lobster and wear clothing of different fabrics. Remember those scriptures are in the same book as the one about homosexuality. If you're gonna be passionate about the Bible be passionate about ALL of it and live by ALL of it.
Except everything you said is wrong, in the new testament Jesus declares all foods clean in Matthew. But it’s the same New Testament that condemns homosexuality multiple times. Plz shut ur mouth
Responding to this video by posting an out-of-context Bible quote in an attempt to prove it wrong, completely ignoring the part where he addresses the Bible’s alleged homophobia, doesn’t make people want to repent. It makes it look like you’re waiting for God to give you your good noodle star.
Does anyone ever notice, they never say repentance, ever. These pastors always talk about how they feel, or what they were going threw. What does the word of God say. Its not about how you feel.
I'm sorry that your God is so demanding that He can't accept loving, helping and thinking people who just want to bring more love, joy and harmony to our world. Or He might be testing You in a different way than You think He is.
Vojtěch Ptáček if you want more emotions like happiness and depression and anger to block your view of God then just wait for the Antichrist to come and he’ll be your favorite little genie in a bottle. Or are you looking for Joy, Sorrow, Justice, that’s what God “accepts” if that’s what the answer is that you’re looking for. It’s not wrong to have the emotions that I listed above, but to let them take control of you, that’s wrong. The Joy… are states of mind that mold you and are healthy for you as a person, which is what God wants to bring you closer to Him. Homosexuality is an emotion not a state of being; emotions are like a vapor moving here and there, or like shifting shadows, never a solid foundation.
Romans 1:28 [28]And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. [22] Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' [23] And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!'
Mary Amaryllis That’s called quoting, not referring. Who knows how you came up with the above scriptures changing the meaning of this verse. Maybe you’re thinking of a different book??
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (KJV).
@@johnmark150 And also …18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have deeds.” Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. 19 You believe that God is one. Good for you! Even the demons believe that- and shudder. 20 O foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is worthless?…James 2:19
God loves everybody, all sinners, but that doesnt change the fact that he doesnt love sin. It is the sin that will separate us from God. God and sin dont mix... let's not twist scripture to justify our sins... we are all fallen and its through Jesus that we are saved. By being born again. . . .
Matthew 7:21-23 New American Standard Bible (NASB) 21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many [a]miracles?’23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
@@Aaaaaayyy18 Matthew 7:21-23 King James Version (KJV) 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
@@vinyrd50 Philippians 4:8 8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.
Everyone is born into sin. That is why Jesus died in our place so that we may be saved from our punishment- sin=punishment- but Jesus= our ransom. Our debt is payed! Repent and be reborn in Jesus' name and ye shall have everlasting life in His Kingdom.
This may need more than one viewing & perhaps even discussion with people you might not have known in your routine life. Being a whole person is part of what Christ calls us to be.
@@samono7726 Personally (and you do not have to agree whatever), if I had a child who choose to be someone like that, a horrific person, I would still love them. I would be 100% disappointed and would excommunicate from them. But I would no doubt love my child for who I know them as and who they were before they did horrible things to other people.
God does love all of us but Jesus came to set the captives free not to remain as we are. Following Jesus means dying to self and picking up our cross as He did. It's not easy to deny self but with God everything is possible. It is the love preached in the presbytery church that Jesus used to draw me to Him. And led me to reoentence .
THIS is what Jesus was talking about. Love, kindness, charity and forgiveness are the biggest Christian values beyond worship of God. All hate is un Christian
There are no Christian values that are beyond the worship of God. Our purpose as humans is to worship the Father in Spirit, deed and thought. Everything that we do is designed to worship God, including love, kindness, charity and forgiveness. If we do these things outside the objective of worshipping God, then we have done good in vain.
flori you speak of love for sin, also bible speaks of more than love read all the bible pray repent accepting ungodliness is not of God, linked vids my account
This comment section is scary. If the context is right it clarifies those scriptures. The origin is important because the original language wasn't as specific as modern English. There is nothing there that specifies it as specific or exhaustive. If the implications of detail are correct he IS correct. The gospel accounts were literal but the parts from the Torah and Revelation etc are not. If your going to try that noise explain the Song of Solomon. What God intended of marriage...could be a reach. But he is right.. partnership is mentioned before marriage specifics. If it is not said in clarity and specificity it is better to err on allowing a blessing then to pull it. Seperating wheat from tares in a harvest is God's job not ours. This is a grey area. Only the Holy spirit in the form of revelation can discern. But that kind of reveal is individualistic. This is something for each to push into the Lord themselves to affirm. And not hold against others even if you actually DO know better. God's hand is doing multiple works in many people through this mess. Seek him give Glory to God regardless. Even if you error. Seek. Again seek more preach less. This is not a lesson teachable by human means.
This is why my generation is messed up. We’ve become so accepting and liberated that we forget to rely in the truth. Did he ever reference a verse in the bible that accept his views? When he reference Genesis, he only said half of what the Scripture said. He excluded the fact that God created Eve to be that partner. He designed marriage for a man and woman to be together in marriage to reproduce. God loves you, yes, but also does not want you to continue to sin. That’s why He corrects us. Yes it hurts, but Christ’s sacrifice is more that worth that pain. All I can say is that, I LOVE YOU WITH THE LOVE OF CHRIST. I hope you find the truth at the cross.
2 Thessalonians 2:1,3 NKJV Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, [3] Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,
He talks a lot about “the presence of two things in the same space,” but literally the basis of who GOD is..... is that He cannot be in the same place as sin. He’s not a pastor, He’s a culture leader who has made up his own version of “God” to make himself few better about a lifestyle of sin.
As a trans man, I’ve always wanted to become a youth leader. Never thought that I could make it after I sat in a room of youth leaders and had half of them say that my existence was sinful and that I am unfit for leadership. This is definitely motivating and I’m not going to give up, thank you
I pray that never happens! I would fear for any child under your leadership and any church who allows you to become a youth leader is no church at all.
@@MrTaylormade2448 you're not gonna make it to the pearly gates with that attitude and hatred, stop worrying about if other people sin and focus on the hatred in your heart, God says to love your enemies and yet you can't even do that
Ironically, the 20 years I spent as a deeply closeted transwoman were 20 years spent as an atheist (or pretending to be one). I gave up on Christianity around age 15 because other people told me it was incongruous with who I really was. Within 6 months of coming out, I started attending an open and affirming UCC church and everything started to fall into place. Does anyone who uses Christianity as an excuse for persecution actually bother to read the Bible?
That is not a church! That is a false teaching! You were made by God as a man you cannot change your DNA. If i take blood from you, your blood will have a X chromosome and a Y chromosome. Which means you're a man!
@@jaystreet4004 That is definitely true, but people shouldn't be cruel to this group. They may never repent if they feel rejected and unloved by God which is definitely not true.
Aren't they though? everyone in every branch of faith takes some over others. You may say you agree with and follow all those laws but i have yet to meet a single person who doesn't pick and choose what they believe or follow.
Jesus never said you have to be straight to follow Him, he just invited people to follow no matter who they are!! It took me years to be okay that I'm bi because I'm a Christian and was taught it was a sin. I'm married to an amazing trans woman and am happier than I was when I was married to my ex husband whose family mistreated me. I'm still on fire for God and Jesus and strive to love like Jesus.
Kelly Yoo no you can judge with RIGHTEOUSNESS. Warning someone of their sin is judging someone with righteousness. But if you partake in that same sin, then it becomes hypocrisy, which in itself is a sin.
Donny Hathaway if i wanted views dont you think i would make my own videos ? What would Jesus do ? he would get the Truth out as he did, read Bible, pray repent be cleansed be, born again
When I was watching this, I was thinking, "Wow, this guy has such a non-confrontational, positive and personal approach. This is what it would take to actually change minds and bring people together!" ... Then I looked through the comments section and it did not appear that minds were changed. So, this is my question for you, scary internet: Is there anyone out there who shifted their thinking after watching this, by at least an inch?
omggg YES. So many hundreds of people are so close minded about their views that any foreign idea is undoubtedly wrong. That's why I hold the view that I will NEVER go into an argument if I am not willing to change my view at all or at least look into it.
The path to eternal life is narrow , that man gives u what u want to hear instead of what u need to hear, we r called to be born again, and deny ourselves and follow Christ, not live willingly in it and a be enslaved by our flesh and sinful desires, hes a false teacher, and lost, preaching for sin than against it
Kaleigh Martin u r wrong It is written the path is narrow, and only a few will find it, people r becoming more lovers of sin and themselves than true lovers of God, by their fruits u will know who is from God, look at the fruits , some preachers only give people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear , u must be born again with water and spirit to see the kingdom of God( its not baptism Jesus speaks of when He said “you must be born again”) God bless u fam, hope u may find the truth in Jesus , dont make ur own version of a god, follow the real one, which is the same God of Abraham, Isaac , and Jacob, and the one who came and paid for our sins on the cross
This is sick ! You quote Genesis , but did not mention “women God created to be a help meet for man . God did not create another man for Adam , you are twisting the bible for your own good .
I don’t know any christian who hate any homosexuel and God loves all of us enough to offer his Son for us, but he also knows what is best for us, after all he is the designer.
I don't want to be me,Jesus said we should be like out Father in heaven,we are sinfull creatures from the day we were born,we shouldn't stay who we are but we should improve ourselves and give our life to Christ
@bruhitsjess ikr same. be you who feel like and who you want to be, even if a lot of people say "homosexuality is a sin". if god hates homosexuality, he wouldn't have created the people that inherit it.
William Dionicio im sorry but being raised a christian ive heard all of this before. the only thing these words have caused me are anguish, shame, guilt, anxiety and made me feel horrible for trying to be my authentic self. this is a horrible message to be spreading to people because you know what, we're still people. we're living breathing humans, and homosexuality isnt any "desire" nor should it be treated as such. if thats the case then heterosexuality as well should be treated as desire. i have chosen to stop believing because of people like you, making me feel out of place and uncomfortable standing in a church. so please shut up, because those words will never solve any "problem" you think there is.
And good on you for understanding context. My partner and I were together for 43 years. We were lucky enough to go to MCC. We were married in that church in1989. We did not get married by law because we would have lost benefits from social security. My partner died last September 28. (No need for sympathy here. She is doing what she needs to do and where, as am I) This is a great talk and gives me such hope.
That verse that your referring to actually referring to people who had a beam in their eye trying to take the speck out of their brothers eye. You should read the whole chapter so you can get context and not just pick and choose.
The context for that verse is that the Pharisees were jealous and trying to trap Jesus because they KNEW that the woman had committed adultery. I get what you mean though, blindly spreading hate against the LGBT community probably isn't from the Spirit and believers that see this and casually leave judgmental comments aren't "loving their neighbors as themselves." But it also states in the Bible to rebuke your brother when they do something that is clearly not of God. This is especially severe if he claims to hold the status of a pastor(Those who teach will be judged more severely) James 3:1. I'll be blunt, you can't look at this one dimensionally. Only choosing to follow one verse and ignoring the rest of the Bible in this case means that we willingly downplay the importance of holiness. I think some believers here clearly understand the path where this man is headed and are warning him in the "love your neighbor as yourself" fashion. They're sticking up for God when the majority of the world hates God's morals.
I am not a religious person, but I am going to share this for those I love within the LGBTQ community, who are religious. They need to hear this message of love and inclusion.
@William Dionicio bruh honestly, where's your proof in god? all you have is faith, ngl. it's kinda sad how religion twists your mind so you can't love who you love. if god hates homosexuals, why would he create people to inherit it? I'm only replying because once I saw you are not a straight man, I felt bad. You should be who you feel you are, not what people tell you to be. Yes, the bible was written by men, not God. then again, i can't really judge can i.
Then he goes on to say "If you are from a religious tradition...I urge you to..." That also speaks volumes. He views Christianity, following Christ, as a religious tradition.
1st Timothy 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. Ephesians 5:11
Robin Bernal Thank you :) I love the internet. There's so much negativity, but if you look in the right places you can find such positivity and encouragement from strangers :)
your welcome miss ERICA BOURLAND I'm pretty there is a lot person like me in this world :D :D don't lose hope on people. I'm glad that I help you :) :) :)
@@celebrimborposting9251 Can you explain to me what this scripture means? Is this scripture not clear as day about how God see's homosexuality? Romans 26-27 "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."
@@happythoughts7792 Sure, no problem. This is a passage about the consequences of idolatry, and refers to men who were already with women, and then they left their women, and went with men. This is more like adultery than homosexuality, since it is referring to men who were already with women, and then started leaving their women to go with men. So it is not referring to men going with men, but condemning men who were already in a relationship with women and then left them to go with men (ie. adultery). Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality, but He did speak out against adultery hundreds of times. The dishonorable passions refers to the people who knew God, but they did not glorify or honor Him as God, nor were thankful. So this passage is NOT about homosexuality, it is about people who don’t glorify God and who don’t like to retain God in their knowledge (Romans 1:28).
I wish this had spanish subtitles, in Latin America there is still lots of homophobia encouraged from christian churches and it would be very useful to help lots of LGBT+ people as lots of them don't want to give up being religious, since for us latinos family and religion is quite important in everyday life.
Hola Jorge. Yo soy mexicano y coincido contigo. Lamentablemente aquí estamos varios pasos atrás. Pero sólo es cuestión de alzar la voz, estoy seguro que hay mucha gente esperando que suceda algún movimiento como este para que se unan. Dios te bendiga!
1 Thessalonians 5:3 NKJV For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.
We are all sinners saved by grace. Thank you for this video. I have been struggling since my daughter has married another woman. I'm seeking more information.
Read the Bible m’am :) Jesus actually said ““But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.' 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.” Mark 10:6-8 I hope that blessed you, I love you! :)
@@robert7879 if god created everything, didn't he also create homosexuality? why would he put gays onto this earth if he hates it. where does it say in the bible "god hates homosexuality." sometimes (more like all the time), i don't understand you christians lmao.
One of the better TEDx talks on this issue. Would have been nice of him to go more into Romans 1 and explain that contextual debacle but I understand the time constraints and I'm glad he gave resources at the end. And yet, still so many predictable drive-by Fundies in the comment section yelling 'Heresy'.'
>> drive-by Fundies in the comment section yelling 'Heresy'.' It's clear by their comments that "drive-by" really does fit them. You can tell that they didn't listen to a word David said.
@@carsonfball4 I listened to the entire presentation (20 minutes isn't long and I've listened to much longer). His deduction (just like his idol Matthew Vines') is incorrect.
Nah don’t believe anything you hear and see. It doesn’t matter who (what Ivy League scholar say) or what domination. Ask Jesus Christ directly and he’ll answer to you tangibly and clearly. My question is did he hear that from Jesus Christ or he’s scoping to his side.
Jesus’s message and the core of his ministry is love and forgiveness. Whatever a person’s opinion is about another’s orientation, our responsibility as followers of Jesus is loving our brothers and sisters. What another’s fate is beyond our capacity or right to judge.
@@kevinorth4961 the Bible say if some of you sin, remind him and lead him back. If he continue to sin. Remove him from the congregation. Go look for that verse
@@kevinorth4961 Jesus pointed out people’s wrongdoings as well. Sometimes it is exactly a way of loving that person when we pointed out his / her mistake. Thinking about a child who wants to jump off the cliff, do we just love and forgive and do nothing and let him/her jump off like that? We will definitely stop the child from jumping and losing his/her life.
I love the story of the professor using Genesis to support the LGBTQ community. Often we are taught the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law. During the time of Jesus, the Pharisees knew the Bible but did not know God. Today we have modern day pharisees teaching us the Bible, very knowledgeable of the Bible but they do not know God.
When a person gets saved, they no longer continue practicing homosexuality. God changes them and they are no longer deceived and trapped in that wicked lifestyle.
@@tmo4330 imagine calling forcing people into closet, bullying and making them vulnerable to psychological distress ‘Saving’…😂😂😂😂 Dude god must be finding you hilarious
@@ithinkiknowme6450 It's an abomination. Entire cities have suffered the wrath of God because of it. People are "coming out of the closet" because they are no longer ashamed of their wickedness. That are "proud" of it. This is not good. It will not end well for those who live that lifestyle. Sodom and Gomorra are lasting examples that can still be seen today.
Hebrews 12 states that ALL children of God will receive discipline out of love. I don't see how a born-again believer, indwelt with the Holy Spirit can live in sin without conviction. Whether you commit the sin is a different story but if there is not a struggle against or a conviction against it you aren't saved. This is clear in scripture.
@@magepker6133 Lets make sure we are correct, those who are born again, do sin. While we are in this flesh, we will sin. However, we should strife to be sinless, to be holy as Christ. Remember, Paul said he was the chief sinner. Those who practice homosexuality, they twist Gos's Word so they can continue in their sin. I doubt a many of them are saved at all. Our responsibility is to love as God loves them, for He created all men. He is the judge of all men.
@@georgehunt6381 To deny that someone is saved is prideful. But, I'm sure you don't care about that if you dont care about making sure you're reading the proper meaning of the Bible
@@randymontenegro3269 But accepting Christ means to lay your life before His; to dedicate your life to him, to pick up the Cross and live as Christ did. The world hated Christ. If you aren't treated with contempt by the world, something is wrong - because the servant is no better than the master. It's awful that people believe just because you attend church means you are a Christian. You couldn't be possibly any more wrong. You are a Christian if you give up your life for Christ - if you follow God's will. There's a lot of talk that the end times are near, and although some go so far as to say "it'll be this year or that day," it is quite certain that we know it is near indeed. We see deception, the multiplication of wickedness, iniquity abounding, the love of many growing cold. It's incredibly strange that many (unlike the Puritans or other Reformed theologians) today believe that being a Christian means your life will be easier, you will be blessed, everything will go great for you. That's what Joel Osteen says, right? But the Bible teaches you will be persecuted for Christ's sake. You'll be treated with contempt. You will have to lose your life to find it, meaning that, you will have to give up your old ways to follow Christ. I cannot recall most verses, I paraphrased most here but I do know 2 Timothy 3:14: .. all that will live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. You have to deny your flesh, your old self, and crucify it. You have to give up your life for Christ. That's what the Bible really teaches. But so many today teach a different gospel. Now, the real Gospel is treated as something radical, something extreme; wrong. But it makes sense right? No one wants to just give up their whole, entire life to Christ and submit themselves to Him. But that's what defines a real Christian. And along with that submission comes change. See, if you are born again, if you are a so-called "Christian," there has to be evidence. There has to be fruits. Does anyone even read the Bible anymore? Stop relying on pastors to feed you stuff you want!
@@georgehunt6381 >> Those who practice homosexuality, they twist Gos's Word so they can continue in their sin. You have a typo. I believe you meant to say "Those who practice homophobia, they twist Gos's Word so they can continue in their sin." "Attacks on the LGBT community, that's sin...Anyone who attempts to justify that is engaging in a modern day form of heresy." -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber, II
Exactly: "Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind [expl.: who commit homosexual acts], nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." I don't know what this guy is, but he is surely not a Christian.
The bible could of been mistranslated throughout years on. Also some people can and will change things into their perspective. Don't always rely on the bible or verses because it could had been mistranslated or changed.
If God didn't hate gays why would he destroy Sodom and Gomorrah? This is dillusion. You are trying to tempt the Lord into wrath and you will not enter the kidpngdom of Heaven unless you REPENT. NOW YOU THE HAVE THE BLOOD OF SO MANY ON YOUR HANDS
other way around. it's those who believe differently that have led countless children to their deaths. why those towns were destroyed: Ezekiel 16.49. nothing to do with their orientation.
Where is the Bible Scripture to prove what this young man is saying? One way you can know this isn't coming from God, is he's not quoting God. I fear for his soul, he's guiding many to their eternal death. Young man you also Blasphemed the Name of God in your message. I pray you repent and find truth.
I don't think you have anything to fear. Neither is he twisting the scriptures, at least nothing coming from the 4 Gospels. He is stating truths that not everybody can appreciate.
My introspection from my experience with Christianity,is that Christian followers will argue about the word of God constantly and which interpretation is considerably the most acurrate. But in my defense I believe that practically any interpretation of the Bible as long as it isn't acultic is true in a sense for that we have all came to the Lord through that interpretation.
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.” 1 John 2:4 KJV “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” Matthew 7:21, 23 KJV
Stop taking things out of context. Stop manipulate and twisting the bible to suit your need and taste. After God made Adam he made Eve. God could have make a man after Adam but he did not, for a reason. God made a man and a woman for a reason. I am not a theologian but that much knowledge I have.
Phiban D he made a woman because a man and a woman can produce a baby. This doesn’t mean a man can’t love a man or a woman can’t love a woman, it’s just that man + woman = baby, so he made them that way.
He might have made Adam a man and Eve a woman but He also made quite a good number that followed LGBT. Of course man and woman are there for a reason...mainly procreation. I invite you to read the whole of Matthew 19, especially the part where it states that it is not given for everybody to get married. If you believe in the Bible you must also believe that these are Jesus' own words. He also added that its not given to everybody to understand these things.
@Bobby Allen Hello Bobby. No I'm not necessarily equating being single with homosexuality in some cases. Please read Matthew 19 carefully and you'll see that Jesus mentioned three categories.
Adam and Eve Couldn't Write. At the time Genesis was going on they weren't actually documenting it. These stories passed down for Generations. Overtime man said hey let's call this one woman and let's call this one man and they found a way to try to explain it God / Creator behind it. . By the time they got somebody that could actually write all of these stories down it was just hearsay to explain why men and women look different and created babies. But creating babies doesn't have to be the only kind of love. In fact many straight couples can't create babies
God is the same, but unfortunately sometimes our culture strays. In particular church culture has often strayed in the past, and it did it again last century by starting to reject homosexuals. Fortunately, as the stats show 13:10 this is now in the process of being rectified.
I don’t even have the energy to argue with the haters on here I’m just so sick of it lol 😂 just take your hate and leave it at home hun we can love each other and be who we are we don’t need your approval
Ally Birch you need God’s approval, did you read the Bible yourself? You know if you believe in God, he will talk to you. Ask him before just believing and defending
1 Corinthians 6: 9-11 "9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."
@@kadijakemokai2542 the struggle with a specific sin that has deeply manifested in a person's life and can reoccur in the person's life during their journey to deliverance.
These viewpoints are wonderful for the current culture, but let's not confuse Christianity with Culture and try to put Jesus into cultures views. Lord as a church help us to followYour word. Help us to be bold and strong even as the world will hate us because they hated us. Let us follow you Jesus always no matter what the cost may be to us personally.
That's right. The church inadvertently absorbed the culturally biased view that homosecsuality was a disorder around the middle of last century. The secular world made scientific advances and used its knowledge to repent from its past mistakes and to learn to love their neighbour better. The church, however, invented arguments to why it should maintain its hurtful and discriminatory position, positioning dogma over love - exactly the opposite of what Jesus taught. So now, people like in this video are making a stand, speaking what's right, promoting love, following Jesus, even if he will be hated for it by some parts of his society.
He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ Matthew 19:5-6
And yet the divorce rate is fifty percent or more? And churches often marry people who have been married before and divorced for reasons other than adultery, which is in and of itsself, adultery, according to the bible.
We all have a sinful nature, we are all born sinners. But everybody has a choice: “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.” Matthew 7:13-14
I feel like a lot of people in this comment section have forgotten that not everyone is Christian, and not everyone who is Christian believes the exact same things they do. I’m going to live my life, and if sky daddy somehow disagrees with something about me which I can’t change, too bad.
This is exactly the very nature of sin. Knowing what God want from us, and still choosing to do otherwise. I don't mean to hate, I come from a place of love. I just want you to know that God loves you whatever you do, but He is hurt when you go astray. Also, no one, no matter how wise, could ever be wiser that the Lord. So maybe choosing to do "whatever you want" instead of what our Father wants us to do is not the best idea. Also it sounds like you don't love the Lord as much as you could. When you will, you'll understand that making Him happy, is the greatest happiness one could ever expierience. I pray that you will get convicted and become the best version of yourself, the version God wants you to be!❤
@@Dbulkss As Alan Chambers who tried to help those thousands change, not one did. People do not change their orientation as a result of intervention, whether medical or religious. You are in no position to demand a miracle from God just because something doesn't suit your personal interpretation of the Bible.
A pastor that is paraphrasing scripture, without actually reading scripture. A pastor that intellectually mentions Genesis is tied to marriage, yet entirely excludes that the helper was female. One single point that he is correct upon, that the church is entirely wrong in professing that God does not love the LGBT community - He certainly does.
So typical of so-called “Christians” coming on here spewing their hate. You obviously missed the point of your own religion. It’s no wonder why so many are leaving religion.
Maybe it’s too simplistic to just tell people to stop feeling the way they’re feeling. I do believe God does change us as we get to know him and many of those things that we once desired will fall away. If someone struggles with sin, it is usually condemnation that keeps them stuck in that pattern. It’s not that sin is of no consequence, it’s just that within ourselves and our strengths we lack the ability to change our desires. Only the spirit of God can do that. I remember when my dad felt so condemned because he could not stop smoking. He played the guitar in church and didn’t even want to go on the pulpit to play because he felt so bad. God did eventually set him free from smoking after getting prayed for at church service one night and he never desired to smoke after that. The pastor would always call him to come up and play even tho my dad felt unworthy. I’m so grateful the pastor did that.
But no one has had their orientation changed as a result of prayer or any other intervention. Well-meaning Christians have often promised on God's behalf that the spirit of God will change them, but such teaching has not only failed, it has consistently done harm. That's why people have had to rethink this issue and more and more have come to the same conclusion as the speaker here.
One thing is sure, God will judge us not on how we want our lives to be lived but on how He wanted it to be. And those who lead others to sin will definitely reap what they sow. Be very careful then how you share your own understanding of His words.
you guys have been saying it’s the last for days...please! get over yourself! you were not called to judge or predict last days. you were called love unconditionally. pray to your god for YOUR forgiveness.
GOD HAS NEVER BLESSED ANY ABOMINATION. Nor will his blessings ever be upon an abomination of ANY KIND what he said was wrong thousands of years ago, IS STILL WRONG TODAY! GOD DOES NOT CHANGE. THE WORLD IS EVER CHANGING , BUT JESUS IS STILL THE SAME! YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER MORE!!! ALL GLORY BE TO GOD. You find your TRUE IDENTITY IN CHRIST IN CHRIST ONLY! 🗝️📖🎁❤️💯🙏🏽⚔️🛡️🔥🕊️🕊️🕊️