Heart of Africa really interesting 😊I am Sudanese but my mum is Egyptian i consider my self Arab and African . If people say Sudanese are African what could Egyptian and Moroccan be .
Heart of Africa Hi again! I think the results by 23andme are not so accurate because they lack data from Sudan that's why they are offering these free tests. Also Sudan is located in North Africa according to UN and other organizations. USA for political reasons is working to put Sudan in east Africa but the UN still insists of classifying Sudan as a North African country and in some departments Sudan is considered a part of Middle East and north east Africa just like Egypt. I would recommend you to try ancestoryDNA because it seems more accurate specially after analyzing the DNA of Ethiopians, Somalis and Eritreans. Although most Somali people here did not like the Middle East or in other words Yemeni affiliation, but it can be true when you consider the geographic locations across the Red Sea and human migrations back and forth between east Africa and west Arabia.
I am not surprised to be honest. East Africans are not mixed to that degree. Your analogy of spoon of salt is correct. Egypt Sudan Eritrea Ethiopia Djibouti and a bunch of other East of African countries are probably one of the realist purest Africans who are connected to a history to the land that goes 4000 plus years. I am not saying we don't have people mixed but our features is African Black features. We do not need to look west african to be more black. It is white mans social construction of race. Now that I am done my rant. Thanks for sharing the video!
Mø Nälayé I've done serious research and took a DNA test. Bantus are not from the west coast. Bantus are native Hamites(East Africans). Most West Africans don't have Bantu DNA.
North Africans and Sudanese are not Arabs . Most of them were just Arabized natives . Even those who really are of Arab origin , are still 100% native Bc they have been living there for centuries. In Britain, if you ask a second generation immigrant “ where are you originally from “ is considered offensive. Sudanese Arabs have been living there for centuries and they are not Africans ?! This is not only nonsense but also xenophobic.
@@st3019to me its absolutely ridiculous that people think sudanese and also moroccans are arabs? they have been arabised and adopted the dominant culture it's simple as that. Some had families with arabs but the majority didn't. You'd be suprised to know what people will do just to gain a more favorable position in society. She is 100% sudanese. Not an african nor arabs. Simply what sudan has been. My wife is from a tribe of east africans called bravanese who are very distinct in my country and also call themselves arabs but looking into their history in the south of my country reveals these people were there WAAAY before the arab expansion. Arabs and their predecessors and also other neighbouring groups have always been a part of north and east africas history. So basically her tribe is 100% native to our country, they were sinply slightly more open to marrying outsiders than my tribe.
you are 28% Berber/ Amazigh !!! That's really nice to know that we Berbers share the same DNA with some beautiful people from Sudan, though we have different skin colour
Well - REAL Berbers do not have a different skin color, as the real deal are blak and African! The language is the key, if you doubt it. Any whytes came as P.O.W.'s or conquerors, later assimilated into African culture. You would have to be a fool to think that whytes came up naturally right next to blaks, IN Africa. Whytes are not even from Europe.
@@returnofthebrotha Genetics has to do with science, not with ideology. Skin Color has to do with the climate. All humans were black first and then their skin color evolved to adopt to climate of the new places they immigrated to. That's why, you can't expect a Berber from Kabyle where it snows to have the same color of a Berber/Tuareg from a Sub-Saharan country like Niger where temperature is extremely hot and dry. Berbers have different skin colors in the same way, the Sub-Saharan Africans have different types of black color ( the Senegalese or South Sudanese are darker than the Kenyans). There also are Asian people that are black such as Tamils, the Australian aborigines, Papua Guineans.
I guess the Arab Sudanese historical mix was more cultural rather than biological. If we keep looking at Arabism as a blood thing, it will just separate us more. I grow up in the UAE and school was pretty pan-Arab. It never occurred to me that there are people who look at Sudanese as non-Arab because of skin color. Here's the deal. In the two countries I was raised up in (Syria, UAE) and me being Palestinian, I was never taught by family, school or society that black Arabs are non-Arabs. It was just black Arabs and white Arabs (yes in those countries you're considered a white person if you're not African black). I feel like it's more that Arabs raised in the west and westerners are the ones who view Arab as a racial group rather than a cultural geographic mixture of countries which also includes a few black majority countries and black populations in non-black majority countries.
+Ntu & Eu Nah it's because many have not met a black Arab or have preconceived notions because they're ignorant. I mean my pops is Arab who spent most his life in Morocco yet has a sudanese business partner (black man) no issues since they're very good friends same goes for a Syrian man (my dad knows) who owns a restaurant with a egyptian (black) manager. It's all down to ignorance. Like I know for sure my dad would have had some suspicions about his friend when he first met him but now they're great friends. I know I don't speak of all Arabs but this is my perspective and is what I witnessed and I hope you understand it's all due to personal experience and the reason theres a "collective" anti-black sentiment among Arab people is simply because many have not met or even had any relationships with a black person. Peace
Racism towards black people happens *right now* because of ignorance and in the past for the same thing: *Ignorance!*. But if you believe its otherwise then please believe whatever rocks your boat.
Arabs ARE racial (or more accurately “ethnic”) group, they are the Tribes of Arabia that conquered the levant, Mesopotamia, north Africa, and Persia. Persians didn’t lose their identity while the others did. They are not blacks, they are semites. So the term “Black Arabs” is not true.
No he Mean Egypt today that we are specially Upper Egypt the dark red Brown skin we still have Sudan wa sunder the Egyptian rules for centuries she has North African which is refer Direct to Egypt now go read so researches specially recent on from National Geographic
Momo Eagle In December 2012, a scientific study by Zahi Hawass ( an egyptian scientist ) and his colleagues revealed that Ramses III and his patrilineal lineage belonged to the E1b1a chromosome Y haplogroup [173], [174] found mostly in sub-Saharan Africa .
I was so excited when I saw your video. I have been watching DNA ancestry videos back to back trying to find a Sudanese person who actually has had their DNA tested. I really want to learn more about our history, but there is not enough recorded data on Sudan and South Sudan. Thank You so much for your video!!! I will definitely look up trying to get my Sudanese DNA tested!!!
Being previously Sudanese, I felt like Sudanese always felt the need to deny the African in them. My great-grandfather who is a VERY educated Historian told me that the Arabs came and mixed with the indigenous African black Sudanese (aka South Sudanese currently) and that's how Sudanese were made (in short). Wouldn't want to bore you with an essay haha. Now that you've done this DNA test I hope you spread this beautiful knowledge. Lovely day x
@@winnieb983 if arabs were to mix with Sudanese they wouldn’t change the demographics a lot. Because the arabs would melt into the indigenous peoples, not vice versa.
Wow! That makes sense because the Nubians and Egyptians were very close from what I’ve researched! Fighting and trading....at one point the Nubians conquered Egypt and ruled for a time.
@@catroman9516 what lace front?, go to her channel with her beautiful husband stupid, That's her hair. She is the face of the hieroglyphics, not your dry face😂. They were black and beautiful like her, her genetic maternal marker L0a goes back to the first woman. You're just a hater ugly Karen, stalking the beautiful black girl, typical. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mUGpiITC6bY.html
Rah W hate to burst your bubble but for now she is 62.3% African. Saudi Arabia, oman, yemen, kuwait etc are classed under north africa while middle east only includes lebanon, syria and iran (caucuses with ancestry). She is 54% horn african because with this company east africa only involves the horn of africa while othet countries like congo,uganda, tanzania, kenya etc are west africa with this company. Central africa means pygmy or khoisan with this company.
@@africanchild2618 You don't what you're talking about. Those countries that you think are located in North Africa (Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Kuwait) are in fact countries located in Western Asia and are considered as being parts of the Arabian Peninsula. Also they are Middle Eastern countries. Either that company or you don't know geographical locations of countries because the African countries you mentionned are falsely categorized.
@@africanchild2618 nord africa=Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and egypt Nord africa literally mean berber And there is no relation between nord Africa and Middle east
Thaaank you for the video. I took the test about a year ago and long story short the result showed that I am basically 96% African and 2% European and 1.2% middle eastern.
I'm honestly confused.....looking at Horn Africans (Ethiopian, somali. Eritreans) take this test they have way more mixture then you. Most of the horn africans ones are half and half. It's interesting but I still think these tests are bull because Africa is more than Bantu and Arab. Why do they have a billione choices for Europeans but not for Africans? I honestly don't think they put time and effort into studying Africa. You're either bantu or arab to them. I think that's bull because there are way more tribes then bantu and arab. I still think Horn Africans are cushtic and semtic orginal tribe.
Africa's Best Yeah 23andme doesn't have enough samples that's why it's free for Sudanese people. I think that's why the results are so vague. Most Africans I've seen do it get Bantu and Arab. I wish they would explain a little more why that is.
Somalis have Eurasian "admixture" from 10kya, along with most Cushitic speaking peoples of E. Africa. Habesha people also primarily descend from those groups, but have relatively recent South Arabian admixture from around 2500-3000 years ago. Basically, a group of humans left E. Africa ~50,000 years ago, traveled north and through the Sinai to the Middle East, and a group of those people returned to Africa through the same route, eventually becoming the Egyptian, Berber, and Cushitic peoples. The Proto-Cushites then resettled in the Horn of Africa anywhere from 5 to 8 thousand years ago, eventually becoming the Somalis, Oromos, Afars etc. Then a wave of South Arabians migrated to the Highlands of Ethiopia and mixed with the Cushitic speaking ancestors of the Habesha.
to be honest, it's a little confusing. Apparently the Kerma culture that laid the foundations of the Kingdom of Kush were Cushitic speakers, yet the Nubian language is quite clearly Nilo-Saharan. Add in the Beja conquest of Nubia, and it seems it's a bit of both. Or I could be mistaken.
Jamac Waal hi! There is debate about the Nubian language being Nilo-Saharan. Many scholars believe that it should be classified as Afro-Asiatic. Specially that the Nubian genetic profile is always found to be similar to other groups in the area like Beja, Ja3aliens, Who speak Afro-Asiatic language compared to gene profile of groups in Sudan who speak Nilo-Saharan languages.
Bright Side hi! I think we read the same paper by the Spanish group from Barcelona, Dobroo et al. 2015. But actually it says that Nubian and Sudanese Arabs cluster close to Egyptians, Copts and North Africans. When they applied PC3 then Copts were distinct. Nevertheless in another study Nubians and Sudanese Arabs had more Eurasian genes compared to Beja, Ethiopians and Somalis.
Amena Teferi this means that the original Egyptians were Bantus. The reason is that the Nubian kingdom south of the Nile which it is believed to have been at the genesis of the Ancient Egyptian civilisation is present day Sudan. Good news I'll say!
roger nsong The original Egyptians were not Bantus. They were Egyptians just like today. Look at this Egyptian statue from 4,500 years ago from the old kingdom: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/The_seated_scribe.jpg Here is a close up of the facial features, 100% Egyptian, not Bantu: external-preview.redd.it/ZZjo3ZD6RPSCYo-sVS0tkMWHiWaVKBjdF-kpKsIB1x0.jpg?auto=webp&s=9ee007b105281a21ff41eb1cbb038027a4456cdb
Selendria Muganogo Whats the difference? They’re all Ancient Egyptians! It took all of them to create that civilization and culture. I can post probably a total of 40 painted Ancient Egyptian statues from royals, nobles, scribes, soldiers, merchants, farmers craft workers etc. that all look like modern Egyptians. But since you want to see Ancient Egyptian royals, I’ll grant you that wish... look below, here’s a few of them: Pharoahs and queens: ibb.co/JFX72zB ibb.co/GVhgj4Y ibb.co/r6pBD8p ibb.co/T1KTr1T ibb.co/ZL7x6zM ibb.co/qskBw78 ibb.co/WnKwTqY ibb.co/m6X9BKz ibb.co/7VjXbZv ibb.co/TkJHLvw Princes and princess: ibb.co/X7tLPc9 ibb.co/1bfTkGs You must accept that Ancient Egyptians were just like modern Egyptians and were their ancestors because I posted painted limestone statues made to look like realistic people as proof that you can see with your own eyes. If you still deny this after all the evidence I’ve supplied, you have no desire to adjust your position based on incoming evidence as I do, which would mean you have an agenda and that is sinister. I hope you are not one of those fools because in another thread we’ve had friendly enough conversation about West Africa and it’s wonderful civilizations such as the Ghana, Ashanti, Songhai and Nok civilizations. Please, look into yourself to be reasonable and don’t be blinded by the desire for racial pride. It’s not an odd thing to believe that the ancient Egyptians are the ancestors of the modern Egyptians and that they are the same people. It’s actually normal and true for most populations of the world.
My favorite part about your video is your haplogroup from your mom... I haven't seen another one on here that's as old as yours... That is so cool to know that your ancestors have been on earth for 55 thousand years...wow...
Hey Amina coming at you from k-town had my test back and OMG 56% middle eastern 32% East African 11% North African. A bit shocking simply because I thought I'd have more west African dna but as my grandmother told me Shiygiah people are dark. Love your channel btw
I just got my 23&me results I’m 76.5 sub Saharan 64.4 west African 31.2 Nigerian …. Born and raised in America im just ready to start studying African culture
HI amena ,first of all sorry for my english ,i live in france,north africans (not egypt ,i talk about the "maghreb region" wich is morocco algeria tunisia ,lybia ,tuaregs ) we are 100 % Berbers ( in our language we say IMAZIGHEN ) , for example 60 % of moroccan people speak our autochton language the TAMAZIGHT and the other moroccans speak DARIJA wich is a sort of "arabic creole " ,go watch in google or youtube ! your are sudanese and you speak arab like egyptians etc believe me as a moroccan i dont understand 1 word lol ,but in morocco we can learn in school arab ,french ,spanish etc! thank you for being insterested in our history . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berbers
Heart of Africa hi Amena, I have watched your video with great interest, especially that you are the first Sudanese I've seen taking a DNA test. Amazigh are the native inhabitants of North Africa and to a certain extend it got mixed with different ethnicities. However you will still find especially in Morocco or Algeria big communities who are through and through amazigh and what I mean by that, arabization did not reach them. We can't deny that the government has been arabized and that they are recognized Arab countries. Further more, ppl have not only mixed with arabs but also with different people from around the Mediterranean and as far as up north in Europe with vandals who have settled in North Africa. We are talking about thousands of years... people just look different in North Africa. Like Palm has mentioned, North African get taught Arabic in school, however for children who have not been raised in our native countries we only get taught either amazigh or darija, depending on your background and upbringing. Darija is a mix of North African with, berber words and depending on location like tunisia it would be further mixed with Punic, French, Italian and no Arab from the mashriq or gulf would ever understand us. Since I've been living in the gulf for many years I picked up different dialects but it's purely from living here and I still have huge trouble expressing myself in an Arabic which would be more or less understood so I stick to English. I took ancestry DNA a few months ago and am currently waiting for my 23and me results. You are beautiful btw :-) One more thing, I'm sure you do have a mix with Arab because the North African component includes various gulf countries on 23and me but excludes the Levent which they are assigning to Middle East. Don't let people pull you down with their comments. ❤️
palm malp please don't mislead people saying we are 100% amazigh, we are not. If you studied the history of Morocco you would never say we are genetically homogeneous. Berberists want to ignore thousands of years of history, what about the phoenicians who founded several costal cities did they just disapear ? what about the Romans, northern Morocco was part of the Roman empire, what about the arabs who brought us Islam, or the spanish muslim who fled from spain after the catholics took Al Andalus some of them were arabs others were european, or 250 years of attacks on christan ships that makes a lot of captives, yes european slaves, that's for the north, as for the southern part, don't you know that Morocco used to be an empire that reached as far as the senegal river ? Trade, slavery, and don't forget that our kings had the tradition to have a black Royal guard, do you want me to continue ? Morocco has a rich history and was never isolated from its neighbours so we have, of course amazigh blood but, depending on the region it's mixed with many other ethnicities.
shana bela roukhi The phenocians were traders not invaders. They stuck to the coast, built port cities and kept it moving. They did not go pass the coast. The Romans used north africa just for trade as well there was never huge migrations from southern Europe to North Africa. Military conquests do not mean genetic imprint on the gene pool of the mass populations. Which live in isolation.
Don't deny your arab roots ! Africa was once a black continent until it was invaded !! That's why some counties in Africa like eritrea (kunama) ethiopia (anyawk) south sudan (nuer, dinka) northern sudan Nubians etc !! Are Pure indigenous Nilotic people's
do people ever know that human are model of climatic experiment. north Africa is cold enough to produce white skin people. who say white skin is only confined in Europe or west Asia. bushman are lighter than people of north Sudan, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea and even some Arabs in middle and yet they are Africans without any doubt. Africa is large enough to create different spectrum of skin colors because it has different climatic zones.
TeyahnaMajor Lies. What makes you think black is the color of Africans yet Majority of Africans are shades of brown. Stop making shit up cuz you dark as hell, there's nothing wrong with that cuz dark skin women are beautiful, but don't go around claiming Africans must be black to be indigenous because africa is a huge Continent with various environments and climates. That's going to breed different looking people. That's how science works.
Sira Mike no one in North Africa is white skinned, I'm north African and never seen a white skinned north african. There are light skinned yellow colored ones but that's about it.
TeyahnaMajor kunama etal are West African immigrant to Eritrea. They settled there in transit to the pilgrimage to Makkah (hajj). They are not indigenous
There’s also quite a few Nuer in Ethiopia. My family’s is nuer from Ethiopia. I feel like I might have a bit of mixture from other Ethiopian groups like the Amhara or Oromo’s cause my mom is lighter than most nuer people.
M O D E S T * S O U L lol right I'm glad I'm not the only one who was confused. They need a better way to classify Nubians. Upload your results please I would love to see them!!
no north african is a race berber tribes "AMAZIGH" you should chek it out i wonder how authers follow african ingiore this and all think we are som invaders but we are really africans like it our not
Well, I think today we consider "Arab" as cultural identity and spoken language and acceptance of Values more than a race.. Arabisation.. Thats how we see it, Ibn Taimiah belive whoever speak Arabic he/she is an arab.. Example: Sudanese & Saudi have more in common (in terms of values, culture, tradition, language, mythologies, proverbs..etc) more than let say a Sudanese with a person from Angola... BTW, from my experience, Sudanese are the kindest people among all Arabs..
Nava sh I agree, North Africans are Africans. The only Arab thing about North Africa is the religion and languages, but besides that, North Africans are still Africans
Yup M, Arabs are Black, White, brown all together.. I am a Saudi from Najd and from a tribal background.. My cousin is Black and I am brown.. My uncle is married to a black Saudi Arab women.. So yeah, you can't tell who is Arab based on color.. Black were in Arabia for 2000 thousand years now.. We are mixed
@@user-lb2xs1lf4j Nubians aren't exactly North African and Copts are merely a part of the Egyptian population which is entirely North African (Muslims, Jews and Atheists too).
Mike Smith Nubians at one time were very African (ancient Egyptians showed Nubians as very black in color with kinky hair like pure Nilotes), but became mixed with Egyptian ancestry over the millennia because of close contact with Egypt so many Nubians today are very mixed race and have some features borrowed from the Egyptians.
Nobility Is A Must Actually yes, there is solid evidence. Ancient Egyptians depicted Nubians as very negroid in appearance as you can see from Ancient Egyptian depictions of them: mathildasanthropologyblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/nubian-tile.png But there would be a later event to happen during Egypt’s late period that would biologically change the Nubians in the way they can be found today. An Ancient Greek historian named Herodotus in his written work tells of a migration of 240,000 Egyptian men of fighting age during the 26th dynasty of Egypt that deserted Egypt for Ethiopia (the name Ancient Greeks called Nubia, which was the Kingdom of Kush) the Egyptians were stationed at Egyptian watch posts near Egypt’s borders and were not relieved for 3 years. So the men deserted Egypt and fled to Nubia and took wives among the population. This racial mixing led to the mixed race type of Nubians we see today. Here is Herodotus’s account of the migration: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.%202.30&lang=original
I was so excited to watch this! Finally a Sudanese does an ancestry test. Girl we are like the same peoples lol. I got a little excited and added North African to my East African too! But North Africans are not ethnically African, they covered samples that were Algerian, Bahrani, Bedouin, Egyptian, Jordanian, Kuwaiti, Moroccan, Mozabite, Palestinian, Saudi Arabian, Tunisian, Emirati, and Yemeni. So technically you are 62.3% African.
LOL we are literally like identical! That is funny! And thank you for the explanation because I was so confused. I don't think they should put all of those different samples under 1 category!!! They need to make it more clear! I will try GEDmatch but that website is confusing.
"the modern somali family" Excuse me,we imazighen are like shit for you ? we are not enough africans because we have white skin,im not going to insult you because i think is just ignorance,if some day you come to france or morocco etc NEVER say what you are writing, it can start in fist fight,your deniying its our autochtone land, if you dont know who are the people in the imazighen "maghreb" people google is your friend !
I know there are ethnic North Africans, I am not talking about them. I am talking about the 23andme samples, they are including those who are not ethnically African by including countries like Saudi Arabia and Yemen for example. Which obviously makes it confusing for people who get results for North Africa including myself.
I am Somali. I did dna test at 23andMe. My result was. Sub-Saharan Africa 88%. North Africa 10%. Europe (Southern Italy) 0 6%. Native American 0.6% Fareast Asia 0.7%. Unknown 0.1%.
My maternal haplogroup is Loa, but I wasn't born in Sudan, although it does say I am 34% Sudanese 😁, 18.6% Ethiopian/Eritrean, 41% Southern East African, we could be cousins
This is really important. There is no such thing as "African features". All features, including those we are taught to associate with European and pale/arabs ethnic populations, originate in Africa. There are features more likely to be denigrated because we associate them with blackness, and that deserves attention and addressing, but don't let the rewriting of history and the homogenization of Africa fool you. White people have African features, and not the other way around. The features they insult are those they are least likely to possess. Knowledge is power, reclaim heritage.
Thanks for this video, I have been meaning to get my DNA tested as well, I'm in the States right now and for sure will give it a try. also for the Arab part, the Arabs when they arrived to Sudan some of them did mix in but of course the African DNA as we all know is stronger and due to the mix the next generations who are born mixed had more of an African DNA than of an Arab one, then this generation went ahead and mixed with Sudanese of only African blood which resulted in the almost disappearance of the Arab blood leaving as you saw in your test results a very small percentage. now the whole process of mixing in happened over 500 years ago and that's enough time for the Arab blood to kinda weaken...this is how you may find some family members looking more Africans than the others who might have a mixed race looks. lol sorry for rambling but I am doing a research on Sudan at UIC and have been spending a lot of time on Sudanese history and how Arabs came into Sudan. thanks again for this video.
Huda Salih thank you for this post! This is also a fascinating topic for me. I am very interested in Susan's history and genetic makeup. I've heard many different theories but so far everything you said sounds the most plausible. Please keep me updated on your study!
The funny part is her tribe is not considered Arabs, and they don't speak arabic, except the one who lives in Khartoum and other large citie. I don't know why is the confusion, I have traveled all over sudan, I saw a lot of variety in cultures and ethnicity across this country. There are Arabs in Sudan. And there are other African cultures and ethnicity. It depends on your tribe and orgin. You can't group all the variety in Sudan into single race.
Yes that is interesting, I did my DNA, it turned out to be 63 % middle eastern and 6 % east Africa and 1% North Africa, 30 % Africa south hunter gatherer . And I am Ethiopian from Gonder. 🤔
Neat results hun. Mama Africa is a unique continent et had diverse ethnic groups within itself even before the modern advent of colonialism, etc. In modern times westerners try to separate us by calling some of us mixed or labeling us as more or less European based on the natural variation in our skin tone. But really East Africans hold some of the oldest DNA in the world. Yes, some east or N. Africans may look differently but it is all in the African family. Your DNA is beautiful;)!!
4:58 , just because Sudan split doesn't make it not North East African lol. It's only called South Sudan because it's in the lower region of Sudan. It's still in the northeastern region of Africa, just the Southern part of Sudan.
MMah Cisse THIS!!! I've always thought the same thing but politically speaking Sudan is in North Africa now. It doesn't make sense! It was NorthEast but when the south split somehow it became North??? I totally agree with you.
Even egypt is north east african. Both Egypt and Sudan are considered more north african than north east african due to the cultural ties. Also majority of Sudan is geographically in north of africa after the split sooo.....
I think it's because Egypt and Sudan were once country. It's not surprising to me that we share the music, culture, language, and even some dishes with Egypt. Sudan became independent that long ago from British controlled Egypt
@HeartOfAfrica yemen, saudi arabia, kuwait, Palestine, UAE etc are all considered north african. Lebanon, iran, syria (considered CAUCUSES with ancestry) is classed as middle east with 23&me. Eastern africa only includes the horn of africa no other region. Other east africans from kenya, Tanzanians are grouped as west african. Central african only consist of pygmies and khoisan people so congolese, gabonese etc won't see central africa on this company.
Hi! Great video. To answer your question, North African DNA is considered "Arab." "Arab" and "Middle Eastern" are often used interchangeably, but they are not synonymous. For example, Iranian people are Middle Eastern, but they're not Arab, and Algerians and Egyptians are genetically Arab, but they're not Middle Eastern. North Africans look very similar to people in Arabia/Middle East, they don't typically look like Sub-Saharan Africans. Generally they have light brown skin and straighter hair, as I said they are genetically Arabs. I think North Africans are genetically much closer to Middle-Easterners than Sub Saharan Africans. So you do have Arab DNA, it just comes from North Africa, not the Middle East. It's kinda confusing but that's the best way I can explain it based on what I've seen and read. I could be wrong, but anyways. You look like a beautiful mix of African and Arab. Definitely a reflection of your country's beautiful and complex history. Like a Nubian princess 😊
Sudan was arabised in the 9-12th century through trading relations and a tribe occupying Sudan. I do not understand why so many sudanese people hold onto this myth that Sudan is one huge mix of arab and African, as though a full arab country could come over to populate us when I doubt more than a thousand or two (at a stretch) would have even arrived (speaking as a sudanese person) its a very sad desire to bleach their histories and identities as black africans. we should instead be embracing the beauty and diversity of Africa.
It is not a myth, there different tribes in Sudan, the lady in this video belongs to Danagla, Nubian tribe , everyone in Sudan knows Nubian are not Arab and their language is not Arabic, so what you except from her DNA test ? We all know that Nubian are 100% sub sahara African
@@user-pn7ks8mc8e Read this my friend and you'll become very enlighten. I know it has enlighten me. Beware though it is very lengthy, but is worth reading every bit of it The guy goes by the name of Ghali Lalanne, you'll be able to click the expansion button under his name to begin to read. www.quora.com/My-daughter-is-convinced-that-the-ancient-Egyptians-were-black-Is-she-right-or-wrong?ch=3&share=19259ddc&srid=QLRd3
I'm from Sudan (Ja'aleen) and I also did a 23andme.I got about 60% East African & 40% North African. The East African = Nubian, North African=Egyptian Berber. We aren't arabs. We are a mixture of ancient Nubians & ancient Egyptians, including the "arab" tribes like the Ja'aleen.
North Africans aren't really Arab, they are people that speak Arabic. Real Arabs come from the Arabian peninsula and when Islam came to be they spread out and influenced their conquered lands with their language. For example Moroccans, Lebanese and Yemenis don't look like each other.
North African in 23andme isn't the North African you know. It has Saudi Arabia and Yemen in it. See: customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-Reference-Populations#Middle_Eastern_North_African Forget the maps in that page. What is important is what is being written. 23andme classifies those countries under Middle East:"Armenian, Azerbaijani, Cypriot, Georgian, Druze, Iranian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Turkish, or Syrian descent. " And it classifies the following under North African: "Algerian, Bahrani, Bedouin, Egyptian, Jordanian, Kuwaiti, Moroccan, Mozabite, Palestinian, Saudi Arabian, Tunisian, Emirati, and Yemeni descent. "
this is awesome! you'll see some other Sudanese results posted soon. I would love to compare notes with you! I have one test done on my children's father. will hopefully have one done on his mom and sis soon. also 6 more tests will be submitted soon.
Heart of Africa Kual's maternal haplogroup is L1b. You have a more ancient mhaplo than him. His mother's haplo is 30,000+ years old and is from coastal western africa. There is another Sudanese match he has with a maternal haplo of L5c. How many cousin matches do you have? And have you uploaded to gedmatch? On gedmatch he has a cousin who is Turkish but has around 14% African ancestry who likely descends from a slave taken from Sudan generations ago. Reach out to me via email if you like or private message on youtube... I'll try and send you my email address now.
Heart of Africa I just saw this article posted on Facebook, it shows a map of ancient nubian cities and Dongola is listed. ... www.publicmedievalist.com/uncovering-african/
1.Arab is not a tribe but its language and culture. 2.Dongola people are Nubians who descend from Temhu{Temwa)who originated from mediterranean sea area or Eastern Libya.Migrations of our ancestors from mediterranean sea or Eastern Libya took two routes,some remained in North Africa,others took a westerly direction hence now known as Berbers,others migrated south or to upper Egypt to Dongola,then Kerma and formed Kushitic kingdom.Those who took this southerly migration route were identified with various cultures like A,B&C culture group makers.Your ancestors remained in Dongola whereas as mine migrated further south to East Africa,Kenya.
You definitely look Northen African, trust me. Arabs came from middle east, Arab peninsula and started to colonize north Africa and spread Islam from 630 onwards. Obviously they mixed with the Berbers, the original people from north west Africa, that's how you got 'low %' middle east and high %' north Africa.
iemandmusic No. That's not how history works. The Arabs did not successful breach North Africa until the 1,100 north africans fought them off for 300-400 years. This is well stated by Ibn Khaldun who documented exactly how many tribes and people were forced out of Yemen to fight in North Africa. Arabs did not migrate, it was a military move and after they suffered a lot of defeats and as much as we hate fighting we called truce and were able to control our own lands. Read actual history.
I sent my DNA kit about a month ago, still awaiting results. Too bad, I didn’t know about the free testing for people from Sudan, otherwise I would have not paid $75 😕😕😕😕 Still very excited to find out about my ancestry
You're 28% north African means you're partly Egyptian, most Nuba people are partly Egyptian ....It makes sense because that's where Egypt meets inner Africa
M7AMD No, the history of Nubia is intertwined with Egypt. Ancient Egyptians depicted Nubians as very black (jet black) in their art and with kinky hair. Over the millennia, the Nubians received a lot of Egyptian ancestry through racial mixing and now Nubians are a mixed race people with many features borrowed from Egyptian people. So they are indeed partly Egyptian and are genetic cousins to modern Egyptians.
Her haplogroup says she is part of the original African. Her haplogroup birthed all humans in existence. All of those percentages are useless, when she is part of the original literal human race.
North Africans came from the Arabian Penn., but mixed and changed over time with other African tribes and also there is a large population of the Tuareg tribe in southern Algeria and of sub-Saharan countries. This tribe also traveled all over Africa
Heart of Africa thanks very much for this amazing video ! You make us all proud ! I Learnt so many good stuff. This video reminds me my best friend in Khartoum is donglawi he has always said that he is Afro arab because this is what the society identified him In Sudan because he is from the north and i was being Identified as African which is true because my parents are from the west.In 2015 We went to Jordan for a visit and while we were hanging out in downtown town Amman there was a Jordanian guy used a racist word toward us by calling us Abu Samra which means black and I told my friend listen this man saying racist words to us and my friend said to me no it's only saying it to you maybe not me because I'm Arab. I said to him let me ask him if he said the slur to me or to both of us and the Jordanian idiot said that he said that slur to my friend not me but he said we are both black so what's the different, since then my friend called him self Sudanese African 😂😂😂 so I'm excited to share your wonderful video with him
If you are a Dongolawi you are factually an Arabized Nubian, though only culturally (Predominantly linguistically, if I don't mix up something), not ethnically. The 28% "North African" probably stem from intermarriages between Nubians and Egyptians which occured over a period of thousands of years (The morphological transformation is especially visible when one compares Middle and New Kingdom Egyptian depictions of Nubians with Medieval Nubian self-depictions from church murals). The barely 1% Arab DNA can be explained with that the Arabs, who started to pour into the Sudan especially from the 14th century onwards, prefered the more fertile areas further south, around modern Khartoum and the Gezira. Not that modern central Sudanese, who are in fact just Arabized Nubians as well, are that much more Arab DNA-wise than you or other northern Sudanese are. So in conclusion, history explains your DNA very well.
For the case you are interested, you can find many coloured Nubian self depictions here: historum.com/middle-eastern-african-history/99082-kushites-medieval-nubians-colour.html
Your conclusion means nothing because you don't understand what you're basing it on. 23andme classifies countries like Saudi Arabia and Yemen as part of the "North Africa" group. See: customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-Reference-Populations#Middle_Eastern_North_African Forget the maps in that page and read what's written. 23andme classifies those countries under Middle East:"Armenian, Azerbaijani, Cypriot, Georgian, Druze, Iranian, Iraqi, Lebanese, Turkish, or Syrian descent. " And it classifies the following under North African: "Algerian, Bahrani, Bedouin, Egyptian, Jordanian, Kuwaiti, Moroccan, Mozabite, Palestinian, Saudi Arabian, Tunisian, Emirati, and Yemeni descent. "
you just have to see and you'll realize she is a mix of many things,you have to be blind not to see. These mixing is fairly recent compared to somalis.
People saying North Africans are not arabs are ignorant of the history . Yes some North Africans are of Berber origins such as kabile amazigh and shilh . But actually more are from Arab descents North African countries are : Morocco Mauritania Algeria Tunisia Egypt Lybia
Adel Salem You're right and wrong. These countries are Arab now but 1500 years ago before Islam these countries had different names and were black African countries. Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria etc are equivalent to Australia, America, New Zealand and South Africa. All those countries were invaded and the original people were displaced. Mauritania isn't a majority Arab country like the others.
Abdi Ahmed 1500 years ago nobody knows who we're living in North Africa before the Arabs because Africa history was challenging for research in the field of African studies because of scarcity of written source in large parts of the continent particularly after the destruction of large part of the manuscripts from Timbuktu (Mali ). As for Mauritania I beg to differ with you since Mauritania is a majority Arab despite been populated by other Africans such as Fulani , Soninke and Wolof By the way Mauritania has more similarity with Sudan more than in any other country in the Arab world in my opinion
+Adel Salem north africa's history is so mixed up actually...the indegenous people are amazighs and they make up the majority in terms of genetics..most arabs here are arabized such as me hhhh (i'm moroccan)i do call myself arab but for sure i'm not mostly arab it's just a cultural thing + one thing that is that amazigh are light To white skinned originally...some are blondes due to european mixture some are dark to black skinned due to african mixture and some are mixed with All of that + arabs and then there are the pure blooded ones (they got >90% of NA blood and are a minority) and they totally weren't blacks...
+Heart of Africa Hello! Since you had questions, I just wanted to clear things up! People probably think you were mixed with Arab because you are clearly mixed with Caucasoid people by your appearance. Since you are Sudanese, they knew that it was likely your Caucasoid features came from mixing with Arabs, since they are the neighbors of the Sudanese and have historically intermingled a lot. You found out that you were significantly North African, not Middle Eastern, but it's basically the same thing. Most North Africans are either Arab, Berbers (native North Africans), or a mix of Arab and Berber. Many North Africans also have significant European admixture, and many have Sub-Saharan African admixture. Many North Africans are Arabized Berbers, who are people that are genetically Berber but as a result of history have identified as Arab. This is because of the Arab military AND cultural conquest of North Africa, resulting in the people of North Africa identifying as Arabs, despite not all of them actually being even mostly Arab. This was helped largely in part by the close physical similarities between Berbers and Arabs. This is the same process that happened in much of the MIddle East. The reason why Iranians, for example, don't identify as Arab is because they were able to keep their language, though receiving Islam and other cultural elements from the Arabs. Anyways, your North African (Berber) heritage is the reason why people think you're mixed with Arabs. It's because they are very similar in appearance, and most North Africans identify as Arab regardless. Hope I helped! You are beautiful by the way!
Bunching all North Africans together as "Berbers" is incorrect though. The Egyptians used to to speak a language which was part of an entirely different branch of the Afro-Asiatic language family. Her 28% "North African" DNA would stem mostly from Egyptian settlers.
+LInus Linuthorax True but they would have looked similar regardless. Check out the Egyptian Copts. They are representative of what Ancient Egyptians most likely looked like because they are the direct descendants. They resisted Islamization and much of the mixing from the Arabs and kept the Christian religion and Coptic Egyptian language handed down to them from the Ancient and Early Egyptians
I love your energy. Yes, you are African. If we mix Africans from every corner of Africa together, we'll get someone with your phenotypes, and that's not a result of European or nonAfrican admixture. So, you're the model African.
The problema is some people thinks that arab means have 100% arab blood, arab is identity and lenguage, it's like hispanic. even in arabic península are mixed, in Oman or saudí arabia have high level of other peoples blood.
north african arabs came from the arabic peninsula ! im a north african arab ! some middle easterns took the test and they showed high pourcentages of north africa wich is obviously the arabs that came from a specific area from audi arabia and other reagions ! these tests always identify arabs in north africa as north african ! arthoe im not sure if they consider egypt as north africa or middle east for exemple algeria are 70% arabs 30% berbers (wich are the real north african natives) morocco 50%/50% tunisia 95% arab 5% berbers lybia im not sure
skeptic proof shut up. Arabs did not pervade the gene pool of North Africans. They document well how many people left yemen to fight the north Africans. The number by Ibn Khaldun was 120,000. That's not enough for millions of people from Egypt to Morocco. We converted to Islam and they went back, we controlled our own land. Do some research and read before you open your stupid fucking mouth. Most north africans are about 70-80 percentage Amazigh.
Sosa Q Exactly and they were also hired by the Vatican to take over Spain, and the real berbers are actually the Hebrew Israelites. And the first Chinese Person was actually a Berber. These are a lot of unknown facts in society.
Here's another little excerpt from a historian who ain't stuck in his room all day like a low life: "He (Ibn Khaldun) uses other examples to show that the power of the nomadic tribes derived from their alliance with the government and that they never made any real offensives on their own initiative: “That branch of the Zanatah known as the Beni Badin... became devoted supporters of the Almohads as soon as they achieved power. The Beni Badin were much closer to the dynasty than their rivals. . . . In the central Maghreb they controlled more of the plateaux and more of the coastal area than any other branch of the Zanatah. During their summer migrations, they were allowed to go much further than any other nomadic tribe. They made up part of the Almohad army and were responsible for defending the Empire's frontiers.” - Yves Lacoste www.versobooks.com/blogs/3293-ibn-khaldun-and-the-myth-of-arab-invasion You may say why would French man spill the beans on the motives of his fellow frog eaters in revising our history? But just remember Yves was born in Morocco and lived among us so that may be a reason why he decided to expose them. I mean us Moroccans were too illiterate to fight back intellectually and the French were carrying out the same thing with the Kabylies in Algeria (Kabylie myth) by trying to cement a certain identity into them. He also has many manyyyy other examples of how berbers brought in and bribed Arabs to fuck up other berbers using Ibn Khalduns *own* work! Finally, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doukkala Read the history section fuck face.
I'd say the North African DNA was links to Egypt, maybe someone like Nefertiti was among your distant ancestors. O.K., strictly speaking 23andme claims they only go back about 300 to 400 years (max) and your DNA is compared to hypothetical populations that lived approximately 500 years ago. Population movement up and down the Nile does make sense, though.
North Africans ARE in fact arab. Egyptians, Lybians, and Morrocans,...etc.Following the Muslim conquest in the seventh century C.E., the region underwent a process of Arabization and Islamization that has defined its cultural landscape ever since.
Recent genetic studies on Egyptian aristocracy and kings were Pre-Turkish anatolian like the Hittites(they were indo-europeans). The Levant and European I think it was Greek or Southern European/Mediterranean in general. North African can mean many things Like the Bedouins who nomadic Arabs and Carthaginian. The Carthaginians were Phoenician and they were Canaanites.
Dear your north african pourcent is arabian because 23andme group arabia in the north african category east africans are not related to north african (amazigh)
you are true 100% Sudanes because of some letters are so difficult to pronounced if you are not Sudanes. well done girl keep going I love your chanel xxx.
You're an African queen really extremely beautiful, I assume this's the African beauty of ancient Egyptian people, by the way recent DNA test declared that most contemporary Egyptians have nothing to do with the Pharaonic civilization at all, the misleaded fact is they were black.
@@proverbalizer most of People in Egypt now are mixture of Arabs, Greeks and small number of indigenous people. Just like American Most of Americans aren’t real American
@@satorsaeed definitely there is Greek and Arab mixture, but I'm sure the indigenous ancestry is still much higher than it is in the US. Also I bet it varies by region....I would expect more Greek blood near the delta and more indigenous blood in the South (upper Kemet)...but i haven't travelled the country to see with my own eyes...
@@proverbalizer I’ve been there too, But indeginous African people are rare there. Dominant blood there is Arabic blood. I’m an African man with Arabic mother. I really know what is going on here.
Sister dna is irreverent worry about where the soul is going. the body will be earth worm food back to earth. worry about where the soul is going. remember Allah
what people do not realise is that North Africa (Sudan and Egypt included) do not have much of Arab DNA, the indigenous North Africans are predominantly Berbers (Amazighs) then Nubians and Coptic people. These people have been Arabised by tongue. The most Africans that have Arab in them are actually Ethiopians and Somalies, these by far share very similar DNA to Middle Easterners, particularly Yemen. I done the same DNA test, my tribe say they are Arabs, but 76% I am native North African, 3% East and 2% West and around 11% Spanish which makes sense as the Berbers conquered Spain (Anadulisia) I am not Black btw.
The scientists classify North Africa as middle eastern because of the Arab population therefore taking away chunks of Africa from Africans but in reality North Africa is part of Africa not the Middle East. The migration of the Arab populations to Africa makes certain countries more populous with immigrants to Africa eg Arabs. Just as migrations today where Africans cross desserts and oceans today is how it was many years back. If people are religious it is a lie that migrations happened e.g. 50 thousand or millions of years ago as science and religions have opposing views on the age of the earth according to creation and religious text on migrations. People have always migrated and mixed with nations and cultures whether it be due to slavery or otherwise. Some people obviously look more mixed than others eg many Sudanese look and are mixed some don't or are not. Because native unmixed Africans are not mixed with anything just like native Arabs eg Yemeni are majority Arab and very little African DNA. Native East Africans are Kenyan Tanzania ughandans Nilotic. The North Africa population is mainly Arab today due to migration. Exactly Before the Europeans put up the present borders Sudan and Egypt was almost one empire the Kushites and the main city was Meroe and Karnak. Ancient Egyptians/native North Africans are Sudanese/Nubians/Kush/kushites under Sudanese kings like king Tirhaka. Arabs came later. And Sudan was most of Egypt.
"The scientists classify North Africa as middle eastern because of the Arab population " These arabs you're talking have little to no arab dna, they are more colonised by the whites and berbers.
محمد سلمان people fail to réalisé that over the last 100 years of the colonisation of North Africa many North Africans have taken European women as wives and still do today. It's very common
Not really. Strictly speaking, Arab ancestry is low to negligible through the region. The interactions of North Africa with West Eurasia (West Asia but also with Europe, mostly Iberia) are very ancient, from the Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Neolithic periods. Shallow analysis may confuse West Eurasian genetics in North Africa with "Arab" but it's not really that (a good rule of thumb in Africa to detect Arab or otherwise Semitic genetics is looking at Y-DNA J2, which is very low across the board but is much higher in all West Asia, included Peninsular Arabia, if you see a lot of J1 but very little or no J2, then it's Paleolithic arrivals that expanded via Egypt and Sudan).
Tahnn Ju Andromilk in Morocco and Algeria there are two races : arabs who look like middle eastern.... and Amazighs (berbers) who look europians . That's all
