Fine, I'll Watch LOKI 

There was a lot of backlash after season one about the romance, and about a "female" Loki even being in the show, so many cries of "Go Woke Go Broke"

Yeah I wish they would've at least talked about it more but I know that's tough when you have to fit everything into six episodes

​​​​@@teraxe Which is shame, because she was important to the story and we are dealing with multiverse and a norse god that took all kind of shapes, including opposite gender. There are aslo different versions of female Loki in the comics. I really dislike this fake outrage. We got way past simple crritique into a realm of grifting. This channel is an exception obviously and I can't be more happy those still exist, but it's a dying bred that still values honesty.

Pandering to morons on internet is anti-art. Also, this season does jackshit with Loki's so called friends. Eric Martin cannot develop relationships.

@@nalday2534 what do you mean jackshit? mobius got a fitting end with watching over how his life transpired and being at peace, silvie free to roam the multiverse this time being sure no one will chase after her but determined to protect lokis sacrifice, the TVA being non corrupt. it is literally the perfect development

that retire part is questionable because Kang during that finale is pure evil I wouldn't pass him to manipulate Loki into killing Slyvie to save him self.

​​@@maiku5723 I wouldn't pass him to manipulate Loki to create a new loom XD He Who Remains was taired and bored, so what better entertainment than having a multiverse that doesn't end the same? More places to conquer and manipupate XD

loom*

​@@phoearwenien4355this! Thats why I love the theory about He who remains already planned loki to be God of stories

​@@maiku5723 it is totally in character tho.. Kang created the sacred timeline by deleting his variants, its understandable he expected Loki to do the same. "i made the hard decision, that is why i got the big chair" . also Kang didn't do any manipulation, he didn't even tried to save himself... he presented them a trolley problem - keep the sacred timeline but keep pruning or choose the multiverse and risk it with total assured destruction. Sylvie action is wrong, you cant defeat Kang by killing him. Kang literally said that if the authority got overthrown, someone will take its place.. and other Kang wont be as nice as HWR. she just dead set on killing Kang, that is why at the end of the day Kang made Loki choose to Kill Sylvie... let think this way, if Kang wanted to save himself then he would manipulate Sylvie instead of Loki... Kang didn't want to save himself... *he wanted to be proven right* , he wanted to show that his ideology is the correct one.. this is why i think the end of Loki is amazing, Loki didn't defeat Kang by fighting him, he defeated him by doing the exact thing that Kang did - became the He Who Remains, holding everything at the end of time, but this time with the other side of the trolley problem. I think this is the ultimate redemption, Loki started his journey with the same mindset as Kang - that he was the chosen one, he had a glorious purpose, he is a god that is above everybody, that a weaker being should follow the strong- In a way Loki fought against Kang is the same as him fighting the prefect version of his old-self and now he choose to be selfless and sacrifice himself for others... i truly believe that this is the prefect end for Loki

That's actually really cool. I didn't realize. The effort they put into character and plot over CGI battles really paid off into a gorgeous and love-made show.

Hahaha, definitely and I loved that so much :D He is now a gardener of yggdrasil :D

Yes I think that caught everyone by surprise that they threw the science out the window. It's like in ep 5, I was shocked that the time slipping could be controlled as since s1, I thought it was a glitch. That's when the story got immediately more godly than just being a Dr who character.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught how Whovian Loki was at the start of the episode!

Absolutely well said! XD

Have not watched the show but I was getting that Doctor Who vibe.

Honestly that's what makes it better.

Bang on 100 percent . Not tied to good MCU tied to the current terrible writing MCU

@@cliveroberts8760he says… about a good show… written in the current Mcu😂😂💀

@@jasongreen6826 he means that good shows in the MCU are the exception rather than the norm these days.

how is that a problem with Loki?

This is how I always explained Daredevil to people when they didn't watch it because "mcu bad"

@@kylemccormack1785 Actually Loki and Daredevil are my top favorite Marvel shows! 😊

@@kylemccormack1785 for real, I've always been saying that you can hate Marvel stuff or superhero stuff and still love Daredevil. It's just that good.

it has the exact same condition andor has then as well! ahah.

@@kylemccormack1785literally the same with moonknight

You could just shorten your sentence to "Loki is what happens when you get great writers-"

​​@@MrSneakSneak Nah, creative freedom is as much important. Higher ups at Marvel thend to mess with the plot and that's a problem too, because that unplanned messiness is then seen on screen. For example writers didn't plan for Kang to be defeated in Quantum Mania. Imagine how differently that show would have been viewed by fans (although I didn't had a problem with this personally, knowing it's a multiversum with no shortage of Kangs XD)

​@@MrSneakSneak go back to playing games loser

@@MrSneakSneak no, great writers exist and work on movies all the time. but all that effort is wasted when they're fired and studio hire someone else to rewrite the script. just look at marval and DC movie. they change directors and main writers way to many times.

How sure are you on the Kang being defeated? I remember a vocal writer for quantumania who was fired from Kang dynasty for being so open about how he wanted the movie to be (light hearted, comedy). It honestly feels like they are giving lots of creative freedom to the writers and directors. Look at shows and movies like secret invasion, the Marvels, Moon Knight, Wandavision, she hulk, Thor Love and thunder... All have distinct styles and with confirmation of the commentary from the directors, they got to explore their vision of the characters as either stupid and pandering or well written and performed in the final product with marvel just kind of letting the failure happen.

lol no, the whole reason why there inconsistent character writing is because of the multiverse. writer dont know how the character is going to be in future movie. so their growth is not "permanent". and why loki character writing consistent (relatively) is because they dont need to care how it will fit into future movie. God loki and tva is out of (main) universe and time. they wont play any role in any conflict due to how op they are. loki can stop time and redo everything whenever without any limitation at all.

NWH is way better

...yet

🙏@@WigantX

I need the actors for legion and polaris from FX to come to the MCU during mutant properties. Emma Dumont is literally my favorite actress ever

Legion was sooo good

I loved Legion! That was amazing and so artsy!

I've seen a lot of people say that Ep6 retroactively made the middle episodes a lot better. There were definitely lulls, and there wasnt always a focused direction about where the series was going, until episode 6 wrapped everything up so well.

*gasp*.. Dang!

Holy shit you're totally right 😂😂

Damn!!!!

Ohmigosh. I hadn’t seen that. 😄

How did I miss that

Honestly, Loki acting as the new Nick Fury gathering heroes from across the multiverse to fight the kang war coming up sounds dope

​@@samcochran8203 imagine Nick Fury's "Let me tell you about the Avengers Initiative" line is Loki's "This is gonna sound strange" lol

​@@acegardianarocratdude, thats actual gold!

@@acegardianarocrat OH my god I WISH it was! 😮

bro same

I was SO angry😂

@@O5-council_12 I was about to start writing in the comments 🤣

No EXACTLY!!! Episodes 5 and 6 went so hard, and I thought that they felt like some of the better Doctor Who episodes

When it comes to the doctor who, thing I agree with you. But it comes to the other Marvel stuff, I don't. For me, Marvel's primary problem is just a lack of quality control. Same thing for Star Wars. Disney is so adamant about making a buck. It's actively shooting itself in the foot in the long run.

@@williamburnett3660 I think if you cut the amount of Marvel/Star Wars shows in half the perception of their quality would increase with no actual changes to the content. This is especially true for the MCU. So many MCU shows drop on Disney+ that you can feel caught up with the movies without ever going to the theater. But what if we only got a max of two each year rather than them being churned out to keep people subscribed.

I want them to reunite! Let the ‘sun on them!’ ☀️

The more he started ragging on it the more I started to realize it was probably gonna be a joke. I was like “no way he saw all the good character work and didn’t like it” am sure enough I was right.

Well FFV is just more constructive in his criticisms than the other two who're known for that.

It's pretty, but it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Kang is still out there, Loki is now Thanos, but even worse, but we're supposed to think he's redeemed as he extinguishes countless lives on a complete whim? OK.

@@stephanluclarose He didn’t kill anyone? What are you talking about?

@@saucevc8353 mate didnt understand anything of the show lol

@@AllMightyKingBowser Allowing the other timelines to exist doesn’t kill anyone because the TVA is still around to prevent multiversal war.

Andor is better though

Lol. Take it easy 😂

Yeah Sony has no idea how to get us excited for their universe. Cuz its so weird that in Spiderman trilogy they can do just fine but in their villain movies they just wont try harder

Not a high bar for sonyverse to be fair lmao

I wanted him so badly to be announced as the next doctor after David Tennent's brief reprisal, but here's hoping they give him the chance after Ncuti is done

@@samcochran8203 same here

Andor was clearly going for a second season though. It’s final episode wasn’t rushed because it wasn’t actually trying to wrap up any overarching storylines. Loki had to bring itself to a definitive end

Also damn I reckon Tom Hiddleston would make a great Doctor

@@gagglegames Indeed he would, he's already a prime candidate simply because of how well he handles the technobabble

Also yeah, the fact that they were that confident in how they were ending his story tells you all you need to know about the quality put into this show

What's your opinion on OG Loki in films?

Honestly if they had leaned into more of Loki's actual relationships instead of just the new ones in the show I would've enjoyed it way more. Let him get closure with his father and brother, this is a Loki who is JUST recovering from being manipulated by an infinity stone and learning his whole life and everything his father told him was a lie. let him have a tearful reunion with thor and apologize for everything. Let him see Odin and have Odin tell him some of what he said in Ragnarok, tell him he was a true Asgardian and Odinson, tell him that he doesn't need to be defined by what he once was. Have Odin tell him what a lie really is. Tell him that the god of mischief is free to break free from the chains the universe is putting on him That legitimately would've made me love the series way more. I enjoy tom hiddleston, but it's not really "Loki" we see in this show, it's "original godlike character who is humbled #6," and it doesnt even seem interested in exploring his roots.

ok this legit made me lol 🤣

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I also completely agree with this, BUT I think they'll save the Odinson family arc for the films. There's no way we're not getting a Loki / Thor reunion at some point. But I do agree - I loved how Loki's family dynamics tied in with Season 1 Episode 1, and would have been nice to have a few more nods to it, although there were a few sprinkled throughout the series.

Hahaha! Goooood

same. Thor 4 was a dissapointment

A coincidence, I think. Brad Wolfe is a comic book character, but could still be an allusion to Bad Wolf.

I completely agree!!!

But he quite literally becomes the ‘saviour of the MCU’ by the end of this show!

Stfu lil bro it fucking sucks

😂😂😂

And when Thor explains it to Jane in the first Thor movie, Loki is already there on his throne at the heart of the multiverse, outside of time, perhaps listening along to his brother...

@@YZee-ij1uv exactly. He is there watching the entire MCU unfold

😭 I don't know why but I think Will would kill it

Considering fans are despairing at Loki's fate to the point it has become a meme, I think it will be enough to create a super important setting that requires Loki to be involved and everyone will be on board with this XD