Star Lord and Gorr Should Have Met 

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@@chasehedges6775 you can tell the people making these movies don’t even enjoy the characters

they also missed out on getting nebula and thor to interact. two people who lost their sibling who they just properly reconciled with after spending their whole lives fighting against them. they would’ve had so much to talk about

If only the director knows the characters. How unfortunate

Covid probably

I definitely am that little brother lol

Uh not really, they were both in the same damn movie together but never interacted at all. Not really a crazy thing to ask for. It should have been in the movie to begin with.

And then this is the 14 minute video essay he makes to convince you 😂

@@BigBrosFilms yeah but still. Its like one of those things someone just randomly says.

Dosent make it any less true

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hahaha indeed. I think it was lucas syndrome he got high on his own praise then didn't accept input when people were like "right i think you went too far" Lucas, Roddenbery, and Taika, JarJar Arbams etc.. they have good vision but need reins held on them or at least people with realism to pull them back.

@@dawfydd Lucas is better than Taika tho.

@@chasehedges6775 Hands down, but i think the creative types like them both need a guiding hand or budget reasons to not go insane and put stupid stuff into it. Had the director from Empire been overseeing episode 1, it would've been a masterpiece imo. Just cut out JarJar give Obiwan more screen time along side Quigon, as Anakin shouldn't have as much as a role, i don't get the whole pod racing thing, its not needed. I'd also cut one of the plots at the end, either the space battle cut down entirely or the raid on the palace, both plots are to disable the droids.

@@chasehedges6775 I disagree. Lucas had so much help creating Star Wars, even though the original concept was his. There was a great team of people who helped make those movies the classics they are. With Taika, he definitely has a big team too, but at least his personality shines through everything he makes (although it really worked against him for Thor 4

The same piece of Godhood caused their deaths. Further reinforce that Gods aren't only redundant, but also toxic. They destroy even the worthiest due to what? Lack of blood relation. Original Gorr storyline refutes that idea, Thor is at his peak when he put the heroism and being a "God" in the same principle, he's already selfless, he just need to reinforce that, being able to be everywhere in the 9 realms. Let's not forget Drax, who suffered the same fate as Gorr, having to live on failing to save your daughter from death.

@@naufalmEZa At the same time Peter is a half God who gave up his power.

Nah man they had to make time for terrible jokes instead of spending time with interesting characters or conflicts (Guardians, Gorr, Cancer subplot, none taken seriously)

They were fine for Ragnarok but drastically overstayed their welcome in this film. Plus I’ll never understand the halfassed reason Thor decided to give his crown to Valkyrie :/ One of the many shitty decisions made in Endgame

Korg is there way too much; he’s just not as funny in such a large dose. Valkyrie just didn’t get anything to do, like she’s just standing around the whole movie.

@@Finamajig Korg is the epitome of milking a joke. He was funny in Ragnarok and Endgame because he's used sparingly. He's completely overstayed his welcome now.

@@Luke_SkywaIker eh it fits with his descent into alcoholism and binge eating. someone had to take over administration and thor giving his title to whoever shouldered its responsibility makes sense. of course that would mean that valkyrie would have to actually rule new asgard instead of adventure with thor in the next film but oh well

@@Luke_SkywaIker more it makes no sense for her to call herself a King lol

frankly Taika should be absolutely embarrassed with what he did to this movie :/

This is the only joke i'd accept

​@JustSolitude Yeah Endgame was leading up to something like that, guardians should have shown up towards the beginning then maybe a few scenes here and there, and then the end. Maybe no GoTG 3 for too long he would just mop the floor with everyone.

I was really hoping Love And Thunder would've been the Asguardians Of The Galaxy movie we were teased for.

I KNOW!

Right, and when she passed he could have held her hand something he failed with his mother

@@NoWayJose24 That could’ve been kind of tragic- Not so much the sadness Quill would feel but the guilt. Thor could be preoccupied with Gorr and Quill would feel the shame of trying to comfort her, and even encourage her to hold on so Thor could say goodbye.

@@solvemproblerstudios5889 fuck, that would've been so good

Man at this point i wouldn't mind if they just remake the movie since im sure it can still end the same way while having drastic improvements.

Yeah probably would help with quill trauma or probably reawaken his trauma so him leaving the guardian is kinda hinted

Yeah it’s mad

i was literally expecting a slaughter there but nope, gorr just kidnaps and terrorizes kids. dammit what a waste

@@jdcsiahaan same! I wanted to see some god heads roll

@@FullFatVideos Chekhov's nuke.

The Russos aren't writers.

I'd even go a step further and say Drax should have been embarrassed at Gorr, because of how close Drax could've been to what Gorr became. I think there should've been a scene where Drax realizes that he easily could have become Gorr if not for the Guardians. That would be fucking AMAZING.

Honestly, Taika wasted _so much_ potential of having the Guardians cross over with Thor, especially at the same time that Gorr showed up

But taika happened

The Fox X Men movies were hit and miss already anyway….

@@chasehedges6775 but they're more watchable than most of these movies And they didn't treat the characters like parodies of themselves

@@RayMcElroy50 First 3 X Men movies are great but it went downhill with Origins Wolverine

​@@chasehedges6775 tf? Logan is the best lol. Deadpool First Clas And DOFP are classics, way better than the OG Trilogy

​@@chasehedges6775 nah, they have some of the best comic book movies ever

Right, they treated it like a iron man scenario where hes just nothing wothout his suit. Kang is so much more than just a suit and they really didnt show that, he felt much too reliant on his tech

I disagree about Imortus, at least the MCU version. He didn't just get bored he literally conquered everything, and there was basically nothing left. He got comfortable to the point that he didn't feel a need to put on much of a show for the Loki because he was so far above other being it didn't make sense to show off.

I still feel that Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes gave us the best depiction of Kang in media. That show was so good.

​@@GarrettTheViking To be honest, if Kang Dynasty (assuming they're still doing that, given what happened with Majors) doesn't use the same plot as Kang's arc in EMH- but with Sam instead of Steve -it will most likely suck ass.

@TheGlassesPro It's just a plot summary, so more of the nuances are not included. It's to be narrated by a woman. It begins with a montage of Thor working out and going on adventures with the Guardians. After a brawl with other galactic bounty hunters, which started after they question Thor's identity, he recalls of his old days and plan to move on again, not most suited with the Guardians' lifestyle. He and the Guardians tend to another SOS call, revealed be Lady Sif, fighting the Shadow Beasts. In the battle, Thor finds Jane, wielding the Mjolnir. Sif is injured so Jane, Thor, and the Guardian head to New Asgard on Earth to have her treated. In there, Sif reveals that the Shadows were summoned by "the god butcher". At the same time, Thor reconnects with Jane, who says that the worthiness came to her "like a calling". Realizing that Jane is now known as him, Thor believes that the God Butcher would come after her; he seeks him out by going to places where others gods bave been slain. Korg as company. In New Asgard, Quill calls Jane and Valkyrie unfair to have not informed Thor of Jane's development. Under Darcy's encouragement, Jane reveals to the Guardians that she's dying of cancer; she has lost her hair and appears frail whenever she drops the hammer. A flashback reveals what she has been up to as Mighty Thor up until that point. She have been reluctant to tell Thor, as she didn't know how to break it down for him, especially since their relationship have ended. The group eventually learns of Thor's absence and track him down. Thor and Korg find themselves in a trap by the God Butcher; though he himself is nowhere to be seen, he raised the slain gods as his undead army to confront Thor and Korg. Jane, Valkyrie, and the Guardians came in nick of time. At this point, the narration begins to breakaway from what's actually happening in the story. Understanding that they do not have the advantage, they set out to the Omnipotent City to seek help from King of the Gods, Zeus. On the way there, Quill apologizes for his earlier behavior to Jane earlier and encourages her to open up her condition to Thor. Zeus seems jovial towards the group at first, but gradually turns against them, as he holds low opinion on Asgardians. He and Thor clash, but only briefly, before the group is held captive in the city prison. Zeus and his fellow gods hold a festivity, just vainly celebrating their godhood. They're eventually interrupted by someone Zeus assumes to be one of themselves. He reveals himself as Gorr, the so called God Butcher. He wields a sword Zeus recognize as the Necrosword. He calmly taunts Zeus, enraging the latter. Gorr, after killing several gods, unleashes his Shadow Beasts, including the resurrected slain gods, onto the living gods while he goes on to fight Zeus alone. In the chaos, Thor, Jane, and the Guardians escape. Thor rescues Zeus, though the act goes unseen by Gorr. Zeus maintains his disdain for Thor, ungrateful. In return, Thor kicks him away and steals his Thunderbolt. He and Jane form a duo, combating Gorr and his minions. An overwhelmed Gorr calls for a truce and presents an ultimatum: whoever it was who saved Zeus, they must to come to his place, the Shadow Domain, where they duel until the death. If not, he unleash his Shadow Kinds upon the universe. The heroes regroup back in New Asgard, planning the battle with Gorr. Jane insists on going, despite Thor's reluctance. She then reveals to him that she is dying of cancer, Mantis confirms it, saying the next time she reverts to her human form, it'll be her last. Jane have settled with her fate and wishes her final moments to be with him, in the battle. Thor becomes upset and leaves the room to process it. He is suddenly pulled into another realm. He lands in a pond and standing tall before him is Yggdrasil itself and the Three Sisters of Fate (I decided to blend the Moirai and the Norns together); the oldest sister is revealed to be the narrator. She tells Thor that they have found him quite pesky, having constantly move away from the fate they've written for him since Thanos' defeat. But Thor's rescue of Zeus is one act that irked them most; Zeus, being King of the Gods, is the only one of the gods to hold sway over the Three Sisters. He used to be wiser but grew vain, and they grew to despise him in return. Zeus' latest request for them is to make the Necrosword itself, to be used to murder a god over a love affair with a goddess. The Fates arranged this to be his hubris and thus, complied to his demand. Zeus killed the god but was so self absorbed that he left the sword in the corpse of the god, and it would later be found by Gorr --- The Fates intended Zeus to be killed by Gorr. Thor calls out out their hypocrisy, stating that their desire for Zeus' death instead cause more deaths of other gods and now risk the universe into total chaos. He states that he'll kill Gorr and retrieve the sword to them. The Fates are willing to accept; in fact, they offer to grant a wish from him should he be successful. However, should Gorr kill him, his wish would be granted instead. At this point, there is no more narration. Thor returns to his group, allowing Jane into the fight, saying that he could save her. They set course to the Shadow Domain, which unlike the movie, is a shattered planet and in pieces, rather than a whole round micro planet. Nearly all is absolutely black and white, with the exception of the lightnings from the axe and the hammer, which are blue; the bolt, which is yellow; and the Guardians' blasters' beams, which are green and pink. In some walls, the group see shadow plays based of Gorr's memories with his daughter. When they find him, the Guardians try to reach him through his plights and loss. Gorr rebukes them, and calls them silly for risking their mortal lives for that Thor's, an immortal. He summons his Shadow Creatures to battle all of them; he himself sets focus on Thor and Jane, though he doesn't know who the real Thor is. In the fight, Jane manages to wound Gorr, but in turn, he manages to fatally stab Jane, and he senses that she is a mortal all along. Thor rushes to her and Gorr stands still in bewilderment, practically giving the two a moment. In Thor's arms, Jane states that at a point, she knew dying to the disease is certain and have accepted it, she just had trouble saying goodbye to him. With her wish fulfilled, she dies. The Mjolnir comes apart again and unable to be used. Thor then returns to another fight with Gorr. The latter's wounds grow fatal; however, Thor "forfeits", giving Gorr a chance to kill him. Gorr swings the sword but stops before it strikes Thor. He deems Thor "not like the other gods" he's killed. Time then stops, freezing the battle with the Guardians and the Beasts. The oldest of the Fate appears, in full color, and she comes to both men. She scolds Thor for seemingly renegading their agreement; Thor must be the victor as Gorr is at the point of certain death. However, Thor insists that Gorr could've killed him still at that moment. The Older Fate yields and offers to grant a wish to Gorr; he chooses his daughter. She appears and reaches him. Gorr makes Thor vow to care for her before dying. The Older Fate then says that she and her sisters will not interfere too closely within the realms of mortals ever again before vanishing, taking the sword with her. Thor and the girl come out to greet the Guardians and Asgardians, now in color. In New Asgard, Thor part ways from the Guardians to care for the girl. Quill congratulates Thor for finding his peace. Thor, in turn, wishes Quill would find his when he finds Gamora again. Later, Thor puts the girl to bed, offering to tell a bedtime story. He suggests the story of Iron Man or Captain America, but the girl chooses the story of the Mighty Thor. So he tells her the story, starting with how he met Jane in New Mexico. The POV pans out the bedroom through the window into the starry night sky. The credit rolls with the actors' name linked to their roles based on figures of the constellation. The post-credit scene is Oldest Fate narrating directly to the audience; saying while that concluded the chapters of Thor's love and thunder, it is not the end of his story, for he shall return.

@TheGlassesPro Yeah, I found Eternity and the Necrosword in the movie as non-sensical. Eternity is supposed to be the embodiment of the multiverse itself, but with all that power, all it is was a plot point of granting wishes. The sword's purpose also goes against Eternity's, so why does it want Gorr to reach Eternity? So I covered the pot holes by weaving it together by the Norns/Moirai. They'd actually serves the story, allows the theme of fate for Thor to resume, and a way for me to take MCU's self-awareness to a next level, and not just for jokes. Anyway, thanks for reading.

​@@peterfrank3365 woah, that is really good.

For music it kinda makes sense. Since ragnarok they used irl rock tunes like led zeppelin and there was no zune

@@Lost_Yeti 'Ragnarok' used only one Led Zeppelin tune, played twice, and 'Immigrant Song' had lyrical references to the Norse mythology. 'Love and Thunder' had some of Guns 'n Roses' hits and ABBA's 'Our Last Summer'. Maybe one or two songs fit a particular scene, but for the overall movie, they lack reasoning.

Indeed, the children served no thematic sense and it only betrayed Gorr's motivation - He hunts gods because he deems them careless and yet the "kidnapping the children" plot would only work if Thor cares about the children.

Star Lord/Peter Quill, is one of my favorite Characters in the MCU, if not my favorite and Chris Pratt is one of my all time favorite Actors!

They should've joined in during the final battle.

Nah it's ok, we don't need the guardians we have a bunch of children.

@@grimmcrag8715 😂😂😂😂. LAZY WRITING

They should’ve regrouped with him in the final battle when it was just Thor and the kids.

Or like Dr Strange in No Way Home. If not all of the Guardians, they could have at least written a story where only like Quill and Rocket help Thor and they catch up with the rest of the team after and Thor goes his own way.

Maybe not the WHOLE movie…but definitely in the final battle, and at the end

YEAAAHH

You can only stay on the ship for so long.

@@chasehedges6775 🔥🔥🔥🔥

You might say Disney's going through...a phase! (I'll leave now)

Look, I’m usually pretty forgiving… but there is very little to redeem Thor 4. The music is good-overrated yet good-but it’s so overdone. The action is ok, but it’s ruined by bad dialogue and contrived *boulshet.* The Guardians are a welcome treat, but they’re in the film for 2-3 minutes.

Yeah I liked that too, it was nice seeing him laugh with drax and flying with rocket

Christian Bale deserved better than this and he’s too good for the MCU.

nobody is ""too good"" for the MCU. saying that is blind, unfounded hate and it's corny at this point

I hate how he was acting all terrifying and yet the kids weren't even scared of him.

​@@zzeroara9511 nah its fact, mcu doesn't deserve bale

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“You’re getting to see the star Lord charm for the first time”

@@FullFatVideos He absolutely rizzed every woman he met and even alt-Gamora, as unrizzable as she is, understood why his Gamora loved him at the end

Thanks!!!

Infinity War was where it ended, honestly. Endgame was average at best.

@@chasehedges6775 Endgame was pure fanservice, and there's nothing wrong with that

​@@chasehedges6775 eg was amazing

Cheers!!!

Probably not!

Thank you!

He’s made enough good things that I think discounting him as a hack is totally unfair because of love and thunder

@@FullFatVideos definitely. Taika is a great comedic writer, but I feel like a movie involving an extremely brutal character like gorr could’ve been written by someone else.

Wait, what? When did this happen in Vol. 2?

@@Kommunicate27 When Ego first uses his power to put Quill under his influence, Quill says "I see it... Eternity!" which James Gunn added a comic book reference and then in _Love and Thunder_ you had Star-Lord and Eternity both in the movie, and yet it never got brought up