FINNISH PM PARTYING - Why It's a Big Deal for Finns 

As an American I don't feel I can say too much about another country's leadership, given the clowns we have in Washington. But at the very least when you reach the highest office in your country you put any questionable activities on hold and hold to the highest level of class you can. Resume doing whatever when you are out of office and not responsible for the lives of every single person in the country.

I lived in Finland and I can definitely say, that she is the weakest prime minister of Finland.

People have to understand that there are some protocols inherent in a public person. It's not a question of her being a woman or a man. If it were a man, it would be equally inappropriate for the position she holds. She has the option of resigning from her post and living her youth as a free woman, but the moment she commits to the country to assume the position of prime minister, she is subject to having to comply with certain protocols out of respect for the nation. It's a decision, you cannot have everything. And this reason is precisely what keeps many people away from public careers. Just my humble opinion from outside. Cheers!

You can also hear ”Mä tein ne linkut’” ”I made the lines for snorting” behind the party video. Linkut” is a common slang word for snorting drugs.

As a non-Finn, I may not have enough knowledge to comment about the politics of another country, but the way I see it, Sanna Marin should have been more careful in presenting herself in public or private, especially considering that this isn't the first time she has landed in hot water, and also that she is the most powerful person in the country. She definitely deserves her own free time and she is free to do whatever she wants, but as a prime minister, she needs to be aware that there will be eyes and ears everywhere and the whole country will be looking and judging. Getting herself caught in questionable situations like this recent one again will not only erode public confidence in her, but will also provide ammunition to her political opponents and critics.

When I first read about it I thought "poor lady, people are overreacting about it", however, by that time, I didn't know she was on duty, neither did I know she was married (brazilian news channels failed to include those informations) I strongly agree with her that political persons are humans, and, had it been a male prime minister, he wouldn't get the same treatment or repercussion, for sure, however, it was incredibly tacky and disrespectful towards her family to be dancing that closely to that man. I have a few finnish friends here in brazil and they never even kissed female friends in the cheek (which is the ordinary greeting in our country), so, to me, it's pretty clear that a finn won't be touching a total stranger or a friend like that. Also, I agree about getting intoxicated while on duty. We had a senator fire for use of c0caine, and, personally, doesn't matter wether se was or wasn't on drugs. Alcohol can cloud one's judgement just as bad, so she souldn't be drinking at that time. Period. She was disrespectful to her family and her country, and I don't think that's something that can be tolerated, really.

I like how they always leave out she was grinding with multiple men on the dance floor while they muzzled her neck and she was also sitting on their laps. All while her husband was at home watching their child. Let a married man do that with a woman who is not his wife and see if these women defend that with their dancing.

If she wants to have fun and go to parties, let her. What's the problem? BUT, if the videos were leaked, like she claims, then she should reconsider who she surrounds herself with.

The problem is not the dancing, the problem is she is a PM, a wife, and a mom. How Finn people accept a leader behave like that? And also the second problem (again) is not dancing or the song. partying like that is the problem from first place. Thats embarrassing. Imagine her kid old enough and wants to searching information of her mom on internet. What the first thing will show up?

The dilemma of individuality vs duty as a nations’s representative, some feel the PM s behaviour also reflects their values and some feel individuality shall be celebrated apart from their jobs. As a politician, no matter what the details of the truth is, it might be more about how it appears, as the end of the day all the news title will be “ Finland PM” did this or that, with pictures as such n such. Thats why some may feel deeply offended as they don’t share her values , as well as some don’t mind as they think it’s her individuality. But notice all the International news titles will put her title before her own name.

Everyone has roles to play. And in each role, there is image or expectation to uphold. Just a simple example, imagine a teacher partying this way during breaktime. How many students after seeing this will be serious with this teacher's teachings?

Finland: the happiest country in the world for a few years in a row Also Finland: gets angry at the PM for dancing

When you are a head of state or prime minister your public behavior is always under scrutiny. If you want to live like a carefree private person, you run the risk of losing your credibility. The Prime Minister needs to decide what she wants more, the prestige and authority of a national leader or the public image of an insouciant bon vivant.

It really bothers me that people want to make this about the partying. No one has a problem with partying. It's about what went on AT the party, poor company, and a lot of irresponsible behaviour. So far, it looks like there was probably illegal drug use, and more details keep coming out that don't look good. We have a useleas drug test that proves nothing because it was taken too late. And Sanna Marin's devotees have an excuse for everything because apparently we don't have standards anymore. And then there are the lies straight from Sanna Marin's mouth. I have dealt with a few narcissists in my time and I'm fairly sure she is one. She has always enjoyed attention when it's posing topless on a magazine cover, but can't take the slightest bit of criticism or answer simple questions.

Agree with what you've said. I only add that I make a moral judgement on her around the way she's dancing with other men so intimately while being married with a child. And in general all of this is not acceptable behaviour for a leader of a country. The people who vote for her are quite conservative too, I think it will cost her.

Did they figure out who filmed this and uploaded it? I wonder why it was uploaded. Was it on purpose, to hurt her?

I am Finnish and this is shockingly the first time i hear about this whole thing

Thank you for your input. Basically a prime minister should always be able to function as Prime Minister. This should mean that use of any intoxicant be minimal because emergencies do come up and generally emergencies are unplanned and unscheduled therefore anyone in the PM position should be prepared for those even when they seem completely unlikely. Dual citizen in JKL.

I didn’t understand the drug testing part but since you explained it was mentioned in the video, makes sense. Media here in NY left that out. Nice video. Good change of pace 👍👍👍

Thanks for organizing all these information in a balanced manner, which makes me much more clear on what is happening!

What do you think of the incident? Let me know in the comments. Here are some additional thoughts on the topic, but please remain critical : - These kinds of leaks can be taken advantage of by foreign intelligence - There are theories that this leak was facilitated by Russia, manipulating the public conversation - Some believe this was a media stunt done on purpose because Parliamentary Elections are only seven months away. - The videos were originally posted to a private Instagram account (stories) and someone leaked the videos from there. It seems Sanna Marin was aware that the videos were posted there. At the moment it's unknown who exactly leaked the videos.

Thanks for this very intelligent and very constructive video. When this story was first swirling around, my biggest question was what Finnish people thought about the incident. Obviously, PM Marin is responsible to the Finnish people, and what they think of her behavior matters much more than what some media-types say in an effort to get attention for themselves, especially if those media-types are not Finns. Kudos to you for giving a balanced view of the situation. Very helpful. (BTW, I'm an American; our president is more likely to trip on stairs than manage dance moves.)

I am a ex-pat Finn living in Australia and yes we know about this as well. So yes, it has gone viral around the world. As the world is in a recession possibly going into a depression like 1929 - it seems not the best idea to party when you might have an energy crisis in Europe and lot of people will face hardship. When people struggle to put food on the table and your PM is partying like no tomorrow seems a bit hypercritical. I thought you might have more important issues to deal with. At times like this you need strong leadership to guide people through the crises that is unfolding. People use alcohol and drugs when they are not coping with issues in their lives. I have witnessed this first hand, so maybe there is some underlying issues? The second issue is security, I know Finland is a safe country but I remember this: "On 28 February 1986, at 23:21 CET, Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden, was fatally wounded by a single gunshot while walking home from a cinema with his wife Lisbeth Palme on the central Stockholm street Sveavägen. Lisbeth Palme was slightly wounded by a second shot. The couple did not have bodyguards with them." Just wondering if she has security and if so what is their role?

I am surprised she has not been punished more for going out to a nightclub last Christmas when she was supposed to be isolating as a COVID close contact. This event you are presenting now is so minor by contrast. Her contempt seems worse than Boris Johnson or the PM of Norway when they were exposed for having a small gathering when they were not Close Contacts at that point in time.

Aleksi, I have some advice. As a outsider looking in to a country I am going to move to. The PM is a public servant in the highest position of power, with that you will need to be seen in a certain light. You have an important job, to serve your people in the best way possible, to make changes to the country that best serves its people, to make sure that the country you live in can always strive to be better. The term for this service is 4 years. Its not a long time. You get paid well. You need to be the best person you can be, and also be a role model for future PM's. This doesn't mean you cannot have a personal life, but you need to make sure you remain professional at all times. You are to sacrifice your life for 4 years to serve your people. That is what the people of Finland pay that position to do. Please for the love of all that is good. You guys need to remain vigilant. The west is completely fucked. Our Leaders are self serving only, only serving their own needs, and that of their peers. They are narcissists. If Finns think that this type of behavior is unacceptable, all power to you, she uses dangerous language when she commented about that she is going to still do stuff that she wants to do, that is a slippery slope, because you do not want your country to fall into the hands of someone that thinks in that way. You pay her wages. You have the right to be pissed off if she's not doing her job. If she is actually doing a really good job policy wise, then maybe this could be forgiven. But again, she should have apologized for video and her behavior, not reinforce it but saying that just because she's a leader of your country, she cant party and get drunk. I'm sorry but that is what the position of power requires, absolute sacrifice to serve your people.

No one, not the PM of Finland or any other human being can be "on duty" 24/7/365. That insane. If the country is so dependant on one person, well you've got other problems. She stated at the start of her term she wanted to redefine somewhat the role and how the PM is perceived. She's doing just that. She's is not only allowed, but *entitled* to live her life as she sees fit. She, at least as far as I can see, represented the interests of Finland abroad very well. She's met the goals of her administration and guided the country through some of the most serious challenges since the end of WWII. If a private life that's a little too exciting or risque for some is the worst of it, then I think that's a more than fair deal! To be honest this smacks of little more than some old ppl griping, political opponents taking advantage , and plain old misogyny.

As an American, if partying is the biggest political scandal your prime minister can commit, y'all don't realize how good you have it

I seen a good tweet earlier about this whole situation that went something like this: "As new younger leaders of countries emerge we should probably start to get used to this, leaders been more "free" and social media "scandals" involving them, in 10 years this will all be just normal" I have to agree 🤷🏼‍♂️

As a finn living abroad I do not give a flying fuck how many men she rubs on, that's a private family matter that doesn't impact the rest of us at all. But what I do care about and what the rest of us should care about is the fact she clearly was drunk during duty. Nothing else matters. That's the thing that matters. You simply do not use any substances on duty. If you cannot have the self control to wait till you are not in duty then you clearly should not work this job. I disagree with this as much as I disagree with on duty doctors, cops and firemen getting drunk. You also cannot judge your own self about how drunk you were and if it will negatively impact your work...

Thank you for your great insight, Sir! Very eloquent and professional. Honestly, PM Marin has to admit she has done some poor decision making. Misleading, trying to shift the blame will not help. As usual, now, ' Experts' feels that she is victimise and attacked due to her gender. PM Boris was literally destroyed during PMQ in UK for attending staff gathering. At that moment, there were no 'Gender' issues by the 'experts'. This nothing got to do about gender!!! She needs to lead by example and yes, you want to have social life, however, when you are holding the highest position in the country, nevertheless, you need to know something called ' limitation'. She wants to be on social media, encourages people to so and nothing stays private when you are holding Public office. She seems to enjoy being surrounded by celebs and parties. It is so scary, when any PM or President says, that they are able to make sound decision when they are influenced with Alcohol! You are a leader of many household of your country. At the end of the day, the silent majority, will express their feeling during election. Reminder, there are critical situation at your border. The very same group of people, media, leaders supports here, will turn their back when they get tired of the same issue! Hopefully, the PM realises, it is about the citizens of Finland and not about her.

She is facing the repercussions of social media, a hit back from what her generation represents and promots, food for thought

I liked Sanna Marin before, now I am not so sure anymore. I think she is partying a bit too much. It is a bit weird for me, since I am also a mom of 2 young children, that a mother parties that hard and gets drunk. For me, this is not normal. And also, she is the PM, I kinda feel ashamed of her actions here and how often she parties. If she has free time, yes, basically she can do whatever she wants, but then she has to be careful, which she isn't and also posts her private life in social media (I know, this video leaked, so not her choice, but the other pics in her Insta is her choice). A PM who drinks alcohol, apparently regulary and she seems she can't always perform her duties...uff. I just wonder what happens next.

Nice change of content Aleksi!, good idea to talk about the "topic of the moment".

How fortunate she is that there was nothing bad happening during her R&R like it's 1999. I know that "third time's the charm" but I don't think she should push her luck doing like this next time.

Finnish people have a legitimate concern about Marin's fitness to be a PM. A prime minister is a position of power - one would expect anyone holding the position to be extraordinarily careful in how she or he behaves. For a PM, there is no private life. It is not a regular 9-5 job.

As a Turkish person who lives in Helsinki, I believe she should resign. 1- She wasted a lot of time with this issues and wasted time of Finland for more productive discussions. 2- Some people might find cool but this is a not simple job. 24/7 need to be ready to make hard decision. Don't tell me Finland is secure, Russia is your the biggest border. Who knows? 3- Intimate visuals with another person.. She is married and that's not good example. Imho weakness. She couldn't handle the popularity coming with presidency. 4- And today she cried while talking and used Ukraine as cover which is totally irrelevant and low-move. Exploiting people's emotions and using Ukraine for saving herself is very low.

I just came back from Finland on Sunday and this was all over the newspapers, I understand why Finnish people may be upset. However, as an American, I am used to much worse behavior from politicians. As long as Marin was not doing illegal drugs I don't see that this should be considered harmful

Good to hear your opinion on this. Thanks good stuff!

As a long time supporter of an opposing party this "scandal" made me also realize how small minded and opportunistic some MPs can be and thus I'm changing my view and voting for Sanna in the upcoming elections. She has actually managed quite well in these extraordinary times even tho some might disagree.

The drug tests came up negative. It seems like the tabloids needed something to post. It looked like the scandal was stuff the general public does not have any real reason to care about. Most of the club and party stuff did not look like it had anything to do with the Prime Minister's leadership. At no point in the videos did it look like the Prime Minister was too drunk or drugged to be on call if needed. It looked like the politicians were still ready to respond to any crisis or emergency as duty required.

I think this whole thing is a farce. PM Marin isn't the first nor the last sitting PM to party and goof around, she is just unfortunate to live her adulthood in the era where everything must be filmed on the social media. For me it doesn't matter what party she represents, I'm not a fan of Kokoomus for example but I still thought Stubb got way too much crap for wearing shorts back in the day. Although I have to admit I find it funny that Finns are having a stroke over Marin partying while the rest of the world, including the conservatives from Poland, think she's just having fun, big deal. :D

I would like to add that if you post these videos to an Instagram account with 90+ people, even when it's a private account, can you really say it was meant to be a private one? As if anyone has close to 100 trusted friends. Lack of judgement from Sanna Marin, once again.

Me as a Brazilian: Let's trade politics? Finland really needs to see what problems are...

Thanks Aleksi! I'm a 4th generation Finn. I've been to finland 3 times and I pay close attention to news out of Finland. I feel the leaks put on news media here in the US are often lies to trick the common sense module of the brains of so many. IT seems to work! Lol. I've seen double standards, ignored by government officials. I'm totally in agreement with you. The Finns will take care of this matter. I'm more concerned with Finland joining Nato. I don't want another US proxy war started in Finland! Kiitoksia!

She was also caught clubbing when she had been exposed to covid . Boris Johnson had to resign for less . If a man acted as Sanna Marin did , he would definitely be asked to resign . Finnish women are posting tweets in support of Sanna Marin . I doubt very much if that would be the case if Sanna Marin was a man . There is definitely a double standard at play here .

But you did have a male PM who did things like this: Urho Kekkonen! This was in the days before cell phones and social media though... Good video though, very balanced analysis

My Finnish girlfriend is very upset with her partying. As an Aussie I imagine if our PM acted like that there would be many in the community that would be against it but also we had PM, Bob Hawke, who held a beer drinking record for many years.

How can you take one's country seriously after this sort of behavior being exposed? She should step down

Were they not just simply singing a kind of "party" song? "Selvä päivä" by Petri Nygård? 🤔 Maybe too much trouble about nothing?

Nolointa lähinnä Olavi uusivirran näkeminen imemässä pääministerin kaulaa...

Personally I think Boris Johnson throws a better party.

Hi, for me the main problem is social media more than content. I think finnish prime minister is just human like us. To enjoy and have a party is not a crime, and what she said just should be private. Some others politician are doing form far more bad stuff while there are taking some decision. Maybe have a good party, sex, alcool is something that others politicians do but without video leaks. This story is just a story of private leaks. I'm French and I envy your country for you prime minister, I don't say she is perfect but she is normal for me. If this event doesn't impact the leading of her country I say Yes.

@4:45 so true. Leader of a nation is a 24/7 duty

honestly I think there's two seperate issues, one is how Finn think of her as leadership personality and the other is her as PM. Imo, the severity would be valid if she was the "president", because my understanding is that the safety of country defense is upmost important and rely on the president, so if the role of PM was to make sure just that the day-to-day tasks are in order, then I'm not seeing the big deal to party. Only cuz when something hugely threatening to Finland like the Ukraine war happened, I saw your president mostly, like you said of it's not threatening country safety and the daily jobs getting done, I think it's not horrible, but I'll say that things would have been much much better received if this had happened to an official not in charge as the captain of a government.

You can’t tell me that none of the previous prime ministers were never drunk in the sauna on occasion during their terms. This argument of needing to be fit to run the country in case of immediate crisis is grasping at straws.

She should take some responsibility, if she acted inappropriately or stepped out on her marriage. Still, I can’t help but wonder if it’s a hit job, by one of her opponents. It seems that women in power, are often held to higher standards than men. Also, as an American, I don’t think Trevor Noah was too far off base.

Hi from India. I also think every individual has a right to personal space. Be it the PM, President or any other celebrity for that matter. But I am not able to understand why these moments were being filmed. And moreover, being PM of any country is a huge responsibility. People have vested power in you. What would happen in case of any emergency? A drunk PM will obviously take wrong decisions. And is there any need of doing PDA in public? She may have a lover but I don't find it encouraging to conduct herself in this manner in a public place. There's a procedure for everything. You cannot just do whatever you like and also be the head of the country. So many people have put their faith on this lady. Its high time she should think about it once. Peace.

Better question at the time would have been what was the alcohol blood level? That could have more of a impact on decision making ? I guess we all forgot the outcome of #10 Downing Street ? I think she is doing a awesome job in her position, but seeing one of her so called friends posted the video, I might suggest looking at one’s friends as we all are judged by the company we keep . Once again, the concern would really be the level of alcohol in making clear judgments in case of a real emergency or crisis.

Fellow Nordic in Norway here. I think you had a great analysis Aleksi. I got to agree with you that there was some elements of poor judgement here by Sanna Marin. On the other hand I think the whole thing got blow out of proportion. I am also from a culture of hard drinking when partying. I am 44 now with two kids and don't really drink anymore. But sure before I had kids I was at these kinds of parties and know it is pretty common for people to act out a lot. It is not that unusual for people who know each other well or who are friends to get maybe a bit more intimidate than they should when intoxicated. There is generally quite a big distinction between what done while drunk and what done while sober in Norway. It is sort of accepted that people who drank a lot of alcohol do stupid stuff. The day after you are expected to get back to being a boring self composed inhibited Norwegian. It is a bit of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing I have noticed many foreigners react to. For me what matters most is that Sanna Marin sticks to the core Nordic values: Honesty. She is not trying to pass off blame on somebody else. She is not denying what she did. She isn't starting to attack somebody else. As a Norwegian who follows US politics a lot it gets to me how often they straight out deny stuff or go on the attack when caught doing something bad. Sanna Marin is owning what she did and honest about who she is. I keep telling my kids that we all make mistakes. We all screw up. Our character is not judged by our screwups but by how we own up to those screwups. Also I think in a world with so many corrupt politicians and where politics is really nasty with lots of insults and personal attacks, Sanna Marin should be honored for being an honest and nice person who isn't attacking and insulting other people. Quite the contrary she is promoting a more inclusive society. That counts for a lot more than some error in judgement about partying.

The part I can’t figure out is what possessed her to act this way on camera. I’m not saying the partying was wrong but why the heck would you make sure to leave video evidence of it as a world leader with potentially millions of judgmental people watching? Maybe this is a broader problem with millennials.. not everything you do needs to be filmed!

It was honourable of her to apologize even though, she shouldn’t have. “I am sorry for acting like a normal person outside my job!”

I am supporting her. Because she is human. Everyone has the right to spend some time alone. Those who published this video did not do it right. I think whoever did it did it to harass him politically. Everyone should stand by her.

The only thing I don’t think is valid criticism is the ‘dancing with another guy’ thing. I think she is an adult woman who can dance with and kiss whoever she wants. If she was really cheating then yes, it’s immoral, but it’s not the public’s business. For all you know it may have been a shot staged for the video or she and her husband may have an open relationship. I don’t condone cheating but even if she was cheating that doesn’t make her any worse at being a PM.

Imo, even the PM has a right to have free time and enjoy it. We all ain't robots, we can't work 24/7, no matter how important some jobs might be. And I thought finns don't care about others' personal lives. That means her dancing with some man shouldn't be anybody's business. We don't know what's happening in her life and why she acts like this. And we shouldn't know. Thus we cannot really judge her. Keep in mind, that was one big IMO.

Moi.2 questions.Who leaked the video and who profit from it. Kiitos

what is Hubby saying about all this ? She is cheating and he keeps quiet ? Polyamory ? It is not some innocent dancing with just "friends" it is much more than this ! so what has hubby have to say about all this ? - Yes she is young super attractive - sexy and wild - and PM - Power Mania - also spells Prime Minister ....

Nobody pushed PM vacancy on her. When someone takes on the Job with highest amount of power and a huge paycheck, you also take on a huge responsibility. You must basically give up a lot of your personal time and needs to serve the people. If she had been on vacation, there would have been a temporary replacement for her to handle sudden crisis situations. She cancelled her vacation on that weekend for some reason, so she was on duty. Then she got drunk on friday and saturday. In a crisis situation, she would have not been able to lead anything. For me that is unacceptable! If she had been on vacation, she Could have drinked and danced a whole month in a row If she wanted. It would have been fine.

First of all you brought up the Estonian pm and the meeting 3 hours later. Even if she was drunk (and clearly she wasn't black out level just buzzed) she'd be pretty much sober 3-4 hours later. First of all you brought up the Estonian prime minister and the meeting 3 hours later. Even if she was drunk (and clearly she wasn't black out level drunk just buzzed) she'd be pretty much sober 3-4 hours later. And if she was a man no one would bat an eye if he had six different women on the same night against the club's bar. But she is a woman and clearly according to some people she should be a nun to be a good prime minister. The only person who should be ashamed and condemned is the person who leaked the videos.

Aleksi, I thought your post was measured, informative and fair. I wish mainstream media was more like this. I never respond to click-bait, shock-horror, or pearl-clutching stuff (from any sort of media) anymore, as it just feels like I'm being used or people / companies are pushing their own agenda - which I hate. In this case, just as in any other job, people need their down-time, so a job's responsibilities - whether high or low profile - should always reflect this (adequate cover provided). Maybe Sanna partied that bit TOO hard (in some people's eyes) BECAUSE of the stresses of always having to be "on call". You wouldn't expect a doctor to be on call 24/7 for all of their career, and they also have so much responsibility and the need to be on top of their game. Here in the UK, I hadn't looked too much into the 'scandal' other than seeing a couple of short video clips of a young woman enjoying herself - fairly unremarkably - at a party. It all seemed kind of innocuous on the face of it. But, then, I didn't know that Sanna was married, or that there was suggestive / maybe inappropriate behaviour with someone that wasn't her husband. If that is reflective of cracks in her marriage, it's very sad - whether or not the evidence got out to the whole world. I guess she is human, just like the rest of us. We should count ourselves lucky our mistakes don't get shown to the world. I realise Finnish PMs are not like, say, US Presidents, with a security detail always to hand to help prevent them being filmed in the first place ... though that means privacy when out in a group setting wouldn't exist anyway. I don't know what the answer is, to be honest! Even the most mild-mannered, principled politicians can be slated and ripped to shreds by the media, if the owners of that media have an agenda. You only need to look at the case of Jeremy Corbyn, ex leader of the UK's Labour Party, to realised that. Who'd be a high-profile politician, eh?

As a foreigner who is living in Suomi for this 3 years , for me Marin is same like the others women, we need healing from our so many many "boring" rutinities, and for me she is always awesome and i support, adore her, Go Marin💪🤗🇫🇮❤️

I don't care what she does in private but won't be able to take her seriously in difficult international negotiations with other world leaders.

Prime minister is not the permanent executive. So its not necessary for the person to be there 24*7. That's job of the bureaucrats. - Yes, videos of a political office holder partying with media personalities, intimately hugging leads to speculations- whether drunk or are close. But, apart from non-leave partying video to surface just raises a leader's code of conduct and the drug test: which was negative. Whom she/he is close to or how close is just society pressuring the individual to fit into some type ascetic or simplistic lifestyle.

I have already twice tried to comment here, based on actual facts, on Marin's poor leadership and the fact that she has a bunch of loyal followers within the social media influencer community. These guys don't really seem to be bothered by poor political decisions and are willing to look the other way when maintaining the illusion of Marin's great leadership so requires. For some reason my text gets filtered every time... 😅

Thank you for breaking down this story well

Why are there no videos on RU-vid regarding "Finns opinion on sanna Marin". And a lot of her videos on RU-vid have comments disabled. There are no public opinions/ street interviews about her. I am just surprised. We have videos of public opinion of our dear PM Narendra Modi in India there are thousands of videos! Same with US presidents over the years (people go out on the streets and ask people on their opinion about their president), There are such opinion surveys for Putin also in Russia! Why doesn't she have one? I tried to find 1 video and this is the closest I could get. Are they shutting those videos by force/not allowing the world see?

I am not Finnish, people are making excuses for her saying she was living just like any other person. So all Finnish married mothers of young children go serial party hopping and drinking while on call without their husbands? There are many jobs that are on call, not just PM. Anybody working in those kind of jobs getting drunk and going partying while on call will be disciplined. On top of that, with Russia lurking like a wolf, this is not the time to go get wild on duty. This is a clear sign that she is very careless and carefree. Not a trustworthy person to bear the duty of national security for Finland. She is not just any woman, she is the leader of a country. If she is just some woman on the street, no one would care if she shoot up heroin on camera.

Well, she can do it outside of work. As long as she does her job! She’s fine. Move on.

I wish she was the prime minister of australia. We just have boring old men.

She was, to me, simply unprofessional. Described moody and a diva, wearing leather jackets or such to official affairs (even giving speeches in them). Using the presidential areas to host parties, her guests destroying property and gossiping important matters. Also she got a divorce right after her term ended, but before that, she was openly seen in public cheating. :D

Love your vids Alexsi!💖💖💖

She is not a serious person if she parties like this but modern politicians don’t need to be. Finland is a small country and is under the rule of Brussels. So all state decisions come from the outside and she just needs to make sure she implements them correctly. This is her job: not to create but to follow. She doesn’t need to be fresh 24/7 for that purpose. We live in the age of state degradation and today you can hardly see politicians like Roosevelt or Jacques Chirac. In the future, there shall be no states as transnational corporations will rule. Discreditation of the state representative is a step forward to vanish the statehood and Finland is quiet succeeding with it. Covid and other points you have mentioned are irrelevant. Again the instructions were from Brussels for all member states. Countries had some freedom to move those frames but not to change substantially.

You have to do everything with style, high class. Like Silvio Berlusconi. 🕶️

This is like our Boris Johnson scandals in the UK. During COVID lockdown he was having parties at No 10. If you are not willing to accept strong limitations on your personal activities, you should not put yourself up for the job of PM. And you should be very careful of who you associate with - it looks like drugs were involved in the Finnish case and even the PM didn't actually take them herself, she must have been aware that others were. What would be her excuse if Russia launched an attack while she was drunkenly clubbing.

Nothing surprises me when it comes to politicians. In my country (USA), corruption is the normal, to the point that supporters of one party or the other will ignore these things. It's disgusting. It sounds to me like your PM may not be taking her job as seriously as perhaps she should be, and I would not at all be surprised if foreign intelligence, especially Russia, is trying to take advantage of that. That is what they do. Given how unhappy Putin is with Finland trying to join NATO, and that you guys are a border nation with Russia, I would not be at all surprised if he is making attempts to destabilize your country in some way. With that said, the job of Prime Minister of ANY country is extremely demanding, and the people doing that job are only human, and do deserve some time to unwind. Duty does have to come first, though. Being overly intoxicated or unreachable in the event of an emergency or national/international crisis should not be considered acceptable behavior from any public official, especially at her level. If she was not on a sanctioned vacation and did not leave a deputy minister or other official in charge while she was off partying and such, then I would say that she needs to be held accountable in some way. As far as the drug test goes: Anybody can say anything in the media, and lab results can be faked. She is literally one of the most powerful people in Finland, and I imagine that it would not be hard for her to obtain clean urine samples, pay off media outlets, pay off labs, etc. I don't think we are ever going to know for certain if she was or was not on drugs. In regards to her intimate dancing with other men: Maybe her and her husband have an open marriage of some kind, or go to swinger's parties, and the general public isn't aware. Frankly, that is nobody's business but her and her husband. As long as these other people she's hanging out with don't wield any kind of influence over her, and she isn't sharing sensitive information or State secrets with them, it doesn't matter. If there is cause for concern for such things, then bring these people in for questioning and get to the bottom of it one way or the other.

Honestly, I had never heard of her name before this. Doesn't seem like a big player on the world scene.

I think we are missing a point here.. We expect too much from our leaders. We have to remember one thing that they are also human beings and not Gods and Goddesses. So if Sanna Marin or any other politician enjoys life and parties we have to let them because they are not doing anything illegal.

the thumbnail/click bait of this video is too much aggressive, can you change that, it's like you didn't support sana or something like that but it seems it's not the case . 😊✌🏻

In India they called it brothel & just last month police raid one politician house & the case is going on

There is no Free Time as a PM, this isn't a 9-5 Job she's the leader of a country

Anyone who is an alcoholic should never be prime minister of any country.

In the words of French President Mitterand: Et alors? And that was him admitting something. Here we have a PM who led her country through crisises , who just like to dance and enjoy herself. The country was never in danger and even if an emergency had occurred, her cabinet and other people in executive power would assist in decisions. In a fair and just society like Finland everybody is innocent until proven otherwise. If she so states that nothing unlawful happened, and nothing her husband can't know, that's it. NATO membership is not dependent on her private time behaviour. For God's sake, there's plenty of NATO members representatives that have done far more egregious things, known and unknown. As have other political figures in Finland. And does the timing doesn't strike you? Who's to gain from govt. trouble? Far right and Russia ! So Fins should have a hard look at their own standards and apply them to their PM also. Nobody is perfect, but Finland is at the top of it's class in almost every category, and not all problems are this govt's fault. Many are inherited. And overall Finland has been led quite good. So many people need to come of their high horse and appreciate. Most of us non-Fins can only dream of such a PM and govt.!

Did guests have to bring their own food?

What if something happens in this irregular times, maybe she is just so busy having fun and cannot really deal with matters. I was so suprised she started crying in the public and it also probably made people there worried so much if they are sane enough to understand this irregular situation they are facing with

she is just leading her party. Leave her alone 😉

The world is messed up if people can't have fun from time to time. The expectations and exampleship placed on politicans (and famous people in general) have gone way too far.

I agreed that this was poor judgment on her part but the most damaging thing on the international stage was to finland's reputation. Since she represents the country it was not a good look and this went vira all over the internet.

as a PM you just don't get to be like everyone else cause you are the PM! they enjoy many other benefits holding that high position within a country to be able to stay fully focused on the job. also, it is not the best time for many people with cost of living rising and everything else happening around the globe and I would like to see PM more focused on work instead of ''having fun''. Also she was suppose to be a family person with a young child and she is not 20 she is 36 and should know better. I don't think there is any excuse for this , just appalling behaviour. You are the PM you are not a random 36 y/o woman , live up to the task or resign.

PM is a role model for the nation. For any younger generation it’s very dangerous.

Why on earth this keeps going on and on and on everywhere? Now even in here. Ok, our prime went out boozing a bit. So what? Even the president of the republic, after being asked about this so called "scandal", replied sharply 'nothing happened that night, end of. I have to say I am personally fed up of this ongoing if-ing about her and the night. In the end of the day, I think, she has been the most efficient prime minister for decades partyboozing or not. Human like us all.

This is riddiculus! What people do in their private life should not be a concern on the workplace. The only one who should question why she was dancing intimately with another man is her husband. As for the drug, she was tested negative I don't really see where the problem is. I know she's supposed to be operative 24/7 but do we really belive other politicians never get their party time away from the cameras? There are no androids here, we're all humans. This is a sterile discussion that only weakens everyone. What we should be talking about is how this videos got on the internet, because clearly they were not supposed to be seen by us. Let's try not be manipuleted this way by who knows who