Fire Emblem Awakening - Trash or Treasure? | Aging Like Fine Wine 

Same pretty much. It was my first game and I immersed myself in it. I had well into a couple hundred hours into the game

Same exact story for me!! Mained Marth in smash bros but didn’t know who tf he was. Bought Awakening thinking Marth was in it only for Lucin to become my favorite character ever 🤣

You gotta play Three Houses

​@@torybeaudet3820 * Depending on what you enjoyed about the game. But generally agree.

I completely agree, the decision with Emeryn almost completely parallels with Robins but in a reverse way that can show the character of the person making the choice, with Emeryn it's do you sacrifice another to save the world, and with robin whether or not your ready to sacrifice yourself.

@@augustonian3522 yeah totally. There's definitely some meaningful and emotional stakes they were going for, and whether or not they land depends on the individual IMO. It was probably received differently by everyone

It's trash, and I can't tell you otherwise

Awakening is an amazing game if you don't have someone saying it's bad

Honestly the story just got rushed. Putting three major arcs into 23 chapters just isn’t going to work.

@@chromlowell7976 From what I've seen/heard that's the game's biggest problem.

Yeah but you need to babysit him (first in his chapter which is a nightmare on higher difficulties in classic mode) and need to put a lot of resources into him. If you play casual with the extra battles that can spawn, yes he is worth it. However, if you do a "pure" run (just normal and side missions, no dlcs or extras) he is not. His growths are extremly high yes, but his base is trash. Heck there is a reason why some the game Frederick awaken, because he is pretty much Seth out of FE8 on steroids. Let him tank and feed Robin the exp. A good unit needs (unless it is a unit that joins at the final chapter at max or almost max Level) a good base and descent growths. And the base for Donnel is horrible (16 4 0 2 3 11 3 0 and 5) that is unlocked by chapter 3. In chapter 3 Sumia joins the team with better stats (18 6 3 11 11 8 5 7 7) who is also a flying unit, something Donnel can never be.

You should have waited till level 15 so you can get underdog.

Samee🙏🏼🙏🏼 when I seen Marth (Lucina) medal. I was like whaaa then got on Super Smash Bros 3ds and I was like no way 😅

It is definitely a great place to start. That or 3 Houses if you want to play on the switch

I like Tharja. :) Who doesn’t!? If I did diss her at any point, it wasn’t intentional. Thanks for watching the video though! Glad you enjoyed it!

People don't like Lunatic and Lunatic+. They really should have playtested them. I've cleared Lunatic+ without grinding and without Robin, but it was tedious. That, and people are generally not too fond of the cast. There are characters I still like in this game even though their fans moved on at this point.

It's overly simple, lacks strong use of the older features they brought back, tedious, grindy, weak characterization and overall pretty bad story. So it's great as a casual game for people that are not at all experienced with fire emblem but boring and low quality to old fans. It's also the start of the series becoming a bad anime game vs grounded fantasy with some limited high fantasy elements. It also is the game that enabled shippers and has things like Nowi which appeal to the types that deserve to rot in a cell. And garbage self insert that's too important.

​@@coldeedNow take off your nostalgic glasses and comment knowing that many old games have most of the things you mentioned, especially the GBA games

@@futrecacao yeah but there's a difference between having a ton of featured things and a ton of things being heavily impactful and well-balanced. Part of what makes the game an incredibly good casual game is that it's not incredibly difficult, it has a ton of old mechanics and in very few ways gives you restrictions on how to use those mechanics. That's good for being a casual game to mess around with and you know spend a lot of time just playing with. It does make it bad from a hardcore strategy perspective. And mostly because the older series has significantly more punishing and limiting design, you have to be a lot more intelligent about the decisions you make as they're really not something that you can just walk back from. Like it has a lot of these similar kind of problems that made every version of fe2 a very casual experience. It's pretty ridiculously hard to make mistakes that make the game hard or impossible to finish, and while being rather unique was criticized in the same exact way that Awakening was. The main difference being Awakening does in a lot of those ways highlight the problems that fe2 had. They are intentional and it is supposed to be a game made for mass appeal that's not really you know pushing itself to impress the old fans.

Everyone appreciate, saved the franchise, besides selfish nostalgics says otherwise

@@futrecacao like what? Shut up.

The thing about Fire Emblem games is that you're not really supposed to try to level everyone up. Due to (most) Fire Emblem games being designed around the permadeath system in mind, the games typically expect you to pick roughly 7-12 characters as your main team, stick with using said characteristics and bench/kill off everyone else. You're not expected nor supposed to try to level every single character up in these games.

@@hylianfelldragon1308 well yeah but even so, one character dies off so I gotta replace them with an underleveled character that can't do anything

i really recommend getting the game!! i started with 3houses too but going back to the 3ds titles was suprisingly a good time!! if youve got a 3ds- 1000000% try and find a cheap copy of the game OR homebrew the 3ds so you can play it before it gets taken off the eshop:)

When they announced the e shop closing first thing I did was buy all the dlc for this, plus all 3 versions of Fates and the dlc for them as well. 100% worth the cost.

I love snobby nobels. Him, Lorenz, and ferdinand are my all time faves

And the way most maps are designed means you have very limited ability to play tactically, so if you don't go the route of making a few units into juggernauts then the game just becomes incredibly frustrating to play.

The game would be exponentially easier if you just let Nasferatu Robin and Morgan run through every map... by requiring Chrom, it actually made the game harder.

in other words, easy to pick up and play. probably has a lot to do with its popularity

This happened with my first playthrough back in 2016, and from what I remember, there basically was just no moment where Lucina interacted with her mother, nor does Chrom even spend quality time with the maiden. No supports either. Kinda the worst possible outcome, really.

It's a failsafe that's very unlikely to happen As long as Chrom has some level of support with one of his marriage candidates he will be automatically s ranked for the marriage. So even if you don't have a support rank with them but you have some support points from pairing up or anything else he'll marry either Sumia, Robin (F), Oliva, or maribelle based on whoever has more support points.

Half of the sucess is 1 million copies, still a good game and deserves

Of course. :) Go for it.

@@TrashorTreasure ok one interm of all the chooses you make atleast the important one like lucina jusment or robin choice of letting chrom kill girma or basically killing them selfs witch one do you think is the most likely canon choice

@@sueflewelling3657 To spoil the ending for anyone reading this: Given that Robin does come back during the post-credits scene anyway, I would think having them sacrifice themselves to defeat Grima for good would be the most canon choice, as well as the idea of all the friends he’s made pleading for them to come back. That and it’s kind of an RPG tradition for the protagonist to not truly be dead, but that’s just me being cynical.

@@TrashorTreasure what about lucina jusment with robin being her husband or mother?

@@sueflewelling3657 That one I can’t really give a full opinion on, since I’ve never really played with a female Robin in this game, but I imagine the game would preferably want me to ship those two and have Lucina in the future, even though in reality I think Robin and Chrom wouldn’t know each other all that well by that point in the story. They could certainly form a friendship, but marrying Chrom and having a baby with him? That seems a bit fast imo.

three house also has bad maps and two objectives, but everything else is better

I think you're taking things a little too seriously in regards to Chrom. Yeah, he's labelled as the main protagonist of Awakening, but it's easy to understand why people would say he shares that role with Robin and Lucina given their story relevance. Also, if you look at the Fire Emblem wiki, both Lucina and Robin are called main protagonists as well, so he's not wrong with his assumption. As for the Sumia thing, I think you're kind of overblowing it. There is nothing wrong with him pairing Chrom with Sumia for simple reasons, like her having an obvious crush on him. In regards to the food thing, that's all because the localizers had the asinine decision to change all of the Chrom and Sumia supports to revolve around food. In the original Japanese, food was only in one of them. This is actually why I avoid their S support in future playthroughs and just have them marry through the main story instead of support conversations. In regards to Olivia and Sully, what about them? Just like the Sumia supports, they're entirely optional. He didn't have to unlock them. Heck, in order to even get Chrom to marry Olivia, you have to have him avoid ALL of his potential marriage partners because if he isn't married to anyone after Chapter 11, the game automatically pairs him with the one who has the highest support points with him. There's even a priority system with it: Sumia first, then Robin (if female), then Sully, and finally Olivia. On top of having Chrom effectively having to social distance from the other girls, you have to have Olivia dance for him at least 8 times to build up enough support points to get them to marry (you could potentially just have them pair up and have Chrom fight a lot of enemy units to build up support points that way, but it's a lot easier just having her use dance on him). Support conversations are an optional thing. He's not trying to say which are the best ones, especially for Chrom. That's why he didn't talk about his supports with Olivia and Sully or elaborate on why he picked Sumia to be Chrom's wife. Personally, as someone who has beaten Awakening multiple times, I can wholeheartedly say that it doesn't matter who you pair Chrom up with, as it is simply player choice. This applies to every other character in Awakening too. He doesn't need some deep reason to go with a specific pairing. Heck I pair Chrom with Sumia all the time for the same reasons as him (though their arguably the best pair for Lucina gameplay wise as it gives her easy access to Galeforce, which is a very broken skill in Awakening; Olivia can learn the skill too, but you really have to work for it if you want Lucina to inherit it). You're taking a side, and optional, mechanic way too seriously. Look, everyone's entitled to their own opinions and such, but I think you put too much pressure on the reviewers for your own good. Judging from your comment, if they don't fulfill specific requirements, you can't trust their review on a game. Again, as someone who's played Awakening multiple times, ToT actually did a good job. He gave his thoughts about the important things regarding the game, like the story, the gameplay, voice acting, and even the graphics. That's all you really need in a review. You don't need to cover the game in a microscopic detail where you analyze every single little detail as that is asking way too much and will really inflate the run time of your review. Also if you do that, you're more likely to make mistakes, which can bring down the quality of your review.

Olivia had a crush on Robin as soon as they met

Three houses is way better, but awakening is not bad, and "alienating" its not a fair argument

The franchise would be buried

oh yes, the franchise was doing so well before that it doesn't even seem like Nintendo would cancel it, doomed for who? It's a selfish and dumb comment

@@futrecacao how many replies to my comment are you gonna post and delete again? I am getting all your replies before you delete your reply and comment again lol Kid, don't try act all tough and insult someone at the internet. You are not gonna get something out of it other then just some hatefulness and self-pity

​@@trueblade3636wtf, i just deleted 1 comment lol

@@futrecacao keep saying it to yourself. Just don't continue screaming and insulting me kid. I am done talking. Goodbye

Nah it's goated

Nah that's cap. FE9 and 10 were marketed well. Ike is the best known character in the series topping popularity polls in both the west and Japan and the Tellius games sold like shit. First of all, not all of the mechanics are from previous games but it borrowed those because the developers thought this would be the final game so wanted to throw all the fanservice for FE that they could. Awakening more than doubled the previous highest selling games of Blazing Blade and Sacred Stones. Fates sold even better and Shadows of Valentia was about a third of Awakening's sales.

@@24hr-Gaming “marketed well” is not just having a smash rep, sure I was excited to see ike in brawl after playing FE9 but plenty kids at my school thought he was from Zelda. The only “fan service” in awakening is for people who weren’t already fans *cough* little girls in skimpy outfits

@@SweaterPuppys This was before Ike was in Smash. FE9 got about as much advertising as Tales of Symphonia in terms of local stores would have posters or trailers talking about the game FE10 had a big marketing push by Nintendo for being a big rpg on the Wii. And you can see number comparisons to other games that would similarly appeal to people of that demographic at that time. Maybe during Marth and Roy time the series was not well known, but the Tellius games have always had a pretty vocal fanbase but both of those games sold badly. I was someone who hadn't played Fire Emblem during those releases so for ignorant fans to pretend like they weren't advertised is simply not true. FE10 alone got more push than Tales of the Abyss. Also did you even play the game? The entire game is about Marth's legacy 1000 years after his game ended. Valm arc is fan service towards people who liked Fire Emblem gaiden. It's even in the name. Valm as in the country Alm conquered. The marriage system is a call back to Geneology of the Holy War except actually well done because you can see the affection levels of your party. Every single Fire Emblem game makes some kind of cameo. They even have the descendant of Ike as a playable character. You get a follow up on Tiki's story and in the dlc she talks about her times with Marth. I am pretty convinced that people who make comments like yours don't like fire emblem.

It's popular because because it was most people's first FE game. It doesn't deserve the praise. The maps and tactical gameplay is so poorly designed.