Firearms Expert Reacts To Battlefield 2042 Beta’s Guns 

yep, we know that's inevitable

Yeah.

@@newbie6377 inevitable? Charms have been confirmed

@@Akovor_ oh shit, I wasn't actively following bf2042 so I'm not updated.

@@newbie6377 tbf, BFV added some charms late in it's life cycle so it was bound to happen

Saw a m1 garand with a drum mag and nearly had a seizure

@@macarthur3169 do not even attempt to portray such a demeaning image into my holy head.

Cod vanguard is kinda looking like a letdown I mean they combine 2-3 zombie story lines and added demons all I gotta say is its like if you combine cod 4 and battle field 4 together it’s just doesn’t make scenes

@@macarthur3169 don’t worry you will probably see a rocket launcher with a drum mag or a revolver with 4 of the cylinders stuck together revolving 🤣

A lot:)Garand with drum mag and still wrong rear sights:)

and also conveniently holds 17 rounds as standard, i hear(i wouldn't know for sure, i don't own one)

@@gohunt001-5 That's true! I don't own one, either, though have fired several in 9mm and one in 40 Short & Weak. I'm not a fan, personally, but they are objectively great little pieces

people be like "Coincidence? I think NOT!"

I thought it was named 17 because it was gaston’s 17th attempt at the gun or am I just stupid

@@archiep6661 You may not be stupid, but you are wrong. Gaston owned a polymer production company that produced things like shovels and disintegrating links. The Glock 17 was his first attempt at firearm production

He's the one keeping this channel alive I only come to see his videos

Yay someone is talking about how stupid gaming is getting these days 👌

i hope they pay him a big bag. he has revived their channel

If you listen closely, you can hear one of Ferguson's peers being tortured for non-compliance at 4:04

@Logan Reaves why would someone lie on the internet?!?!

Jonathan*

@@InfinityReptar cheers for that

@@SCOTTIEBEAUTIFUL np bro

lmfaooo he saw that shit comin

it's also a different color from the rest of the gun, like it's a separate part as a powered rail probably would be

Yes, it's intended to be a powered rail system

it’s almost as if battlefield was never meant for realism

yeah the rails in game are a different rail standard

The X-M8 tried to do something new, so it's not out of the question someone else would give it another go. Problem with powered rails though is that the gun has to house the battery, regardless of whether or not there's an attachment on the rails, unless you feel like swapping it out just as often as you change attachments.

sorry im afraid he will run away once he starts doing a video on Cod Vanguard

That’s why they ask you to support Jonathan and his work at the Royal Armories Museum.

as most museums are

Did you meet the man himself?

It's best the best when museums are empty, you can take your time and enjoy everything

Been there myself also, absolutely my favourite museum I’ve been to. If you think of a gun, they’ve got it.

😂

@UC7Qc_W0I2jX5AJnCpcGqZ8w So the game is unplayable because they got a few things wrong about the guns? LMFAO how entitled can you be? 🤣

Lmfao

@@Fireball-cf3xn All cod games are unplayable, and this bf is too

@@Fireball-cf3xn "a few" that's like saying a pyramid is just a minor bump on earth lmao

That along with the painfully slow bullet velocity makes sniping almost entirely ineffective, I really hope they change that by release

MGS YES

I want to know what he has to say about suppressors in Metal Gear Solid V breaking after a few shots.

@@ShadowReaper-pu2hx tbf, suppressors do need regular maintenance & such, or they will end up failing. But yeah, the speed with which they deteriorate in MGS 3 onwards is absurd

@@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740, yes, and they say it’s stealth game. I still try to be stealthy, but they make it unnecessarily hard. BTW, Connor was my favorite character in Detroit: Become Human.

It is realistic for suppressors that incorporate -nylon- neoprene wipes rather than baffles. These suppressors hold in the gasses better and are quieter, but also wear out in roughly a dozen shots or more. Modern suppressor tech is advancing at a rate where wipes aren’t a necessity, but there is at least a realistic justification for the gameplay mechanic.

Thanks for making this point

@@DamienDarksideBlog someone's having a lovely day

@@DamienDarksideBlog First of all, chill. I don't know what you assumed from such a simple comment, but you're clearly taking shit the wrong way. Secondly, I like how you ignored all the games which came before Modern Warfare. You know, the World War II games? The ones which, in these ancient times before "fun" was invented in your world, were somehow able to have a bolt-action rifle with a scope attached load individual rounds according to the number missing from the magazine? You know what other games do that? All other Call of Duty games, Modern Warfare included, with bolt-action rifles that have internal magazines. Fascinating stuff, I'll tell you. Blows my mind. I guess you never noticed that. Lastly and most importantly, realism does not necessarily detract from gameplay or fun. Anyone with half a functioning brain knows that. You're really saying that having a different animation closer to the function of a real weapon would somehow make the game less about fun? I guess cars in GTA can have three wheels instead of four, because realism isn't the main focus of the GTA series. In fact, why not add a phaser from Star Trek in Vanguard? Who cares about realism, that'd be fun, right?

@@ODST_Parker The best part if that you are wrong on pretty much your entire post. You assume my mood, I wrote that while getting paid at work. So wrong. I didn't ignore the other games since you go back further than that the gun goes below the screen and you get a CHIKCHIK sound. Plenty of games had reloads with the scope, plenty make the design choice not to make 100% real reloads. You don't have a point here. So wrong. Finally you made a completely misleading statement. "Realism does not necessarily detract from gameplay or fun". This means you are approaching it again from there completely wrong angle, a mistake PLENTY of people have made coming into this industry: "Realism does not necessarily mean gameplay or fun" There are phasers in Call of Duty for WW2, it's called the Ray Gun and is ubiquitous to Nazi Zombies. Vanguard has what you already said! LASERS! What do you think the PAP is for and already proves you don't need to be realistic to have a game. Also there are old gods and magic, and it all fits in a WW2 setting. Plus of COURSE there are three wheeled cars in GTAV. At least I hope there are, I prefered Saint's Row. I know you can blow out tires in that game so hopefully GTA can handle it. Also there are plenty of three wheeled vehicles in the world! YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED!

wait, are you talking about WW2 or MW19 (the "modern" in the sentence)?

Not a very good idea in practice, if the magnetic force isn't strong enough you'll be rocking your optic around, screwing up the zero and even dropping it.

Imagine drawing your gun just to find somebody's wrench stuck to it. Or keys. Or even better - your gun attaches itself to a vehicle when you cover behind it.

@@Alex-Storm keys?! This is 2042, you open your car with your Elon Musk brain implant 😂

even if you were an avid crayon enjoyer, you'd still notice the weight difference between loaded and unloaded launcher

Huh.

@Robert Sears Pretty muc every gun in BF2042 have these powered rails, not just the SIG MCX Spear. I was being a bit more generic for that reason.

@@jackal_9791 just because "every gun has it" doesn't mean it's correct. Look at Rainbow 6 Siege and how disproportional the rail segments are, or the fact some modern guns use weaver mounts despite being mounted with picatinny-compatible optics.

You’re debating with a gun expert who literally has a library of guns… Get stuffed🖕

even if its not picatiny rails. the rail is so far apart, a closer rail section would make better "scaling" adjustment per se thats the Jonathan point

Battlefield Hardline also had a zipline crossbow, but it's not quite on the level of a grappling gun.

I came to say this same thing. And damn it was god damn lit, best expansion in any BF game imo

That's cool but like why would you do that I probably wouldnt do that if I'm in a battle

@@evanlanger4808 true, by no means would I ever do that in the middle of battle, but nonetheless it’s a nice touch

@@evanlanger4808 it's a habit and people are usually trained to always engage safety quickly after finishing firing and stuff like that. I don't think it's something you'd do in battle, just Dice taking note of a detail but not having many fitting places to use it.

To be fair, I'm just the face of this series - IrregularDave and the others at Gamespot turn my rambles into something coherent :)

@@jonathanferguson1211 real or fan jonathan account ?

@@jonathanferguson1211 If they ever ask you to review Cod Vanguard, be prepared to end up doing at *least* 3 videos.....might not be a bad idea to have a few strong drinks handy as well.

@@ItsMickIntosh Oh, it's planned. I am as mentally prepared as I can be!

@@sixela9389 Real. :)

yes that is true too bad i died to see the end of the war

Two Russians

You had to put the squirt gun emoji?🔫

yeah I noticed that too, amazing

I'm sure they could use the campaign for showing off weapons, plus whoever they're having get the gameplay won't have to worry about getting nuked by some Titanfall2 vet who hasn't stopped playing since 2016

@@socksleeve I feel personally attacked XD

Amen to that, New Vegas has so much great firearms content

@@PURPLECATDUDE7734 the base game and the dlc's he could do another 3 episodes on it

Bordelands 3 is better option:)

Bruh how tf u gonna talk about fake guns from halo

Jonathan's already done a couple of videos on games that feature sci-fi guns, and either compared them to the real guns they are based on, or talks about how feasible the design and functionality might be. As such, halo is a pretty good series of games for this sort of treatment.

a full auto Glock would still be better than the burst-Glock from csgo

Do 40k and gears of war as well lol

please

@@lastword8783 he already did 40k through the Necromunda Hired Guns video

Would be interesting if he‘s gonna talk about plasma or covenant weapons in general. I‘m guessing they‘re just too far removed to have any real world connection, unless I‘m unaware of some obscure military project that lasted for 3 days

Haha bolsheviks go bang bang

@@ItsMickIntosh Unfortunately no Bolsheviks in Tannenberg…Battlefield 1 had them, and man was that DLC fun as hell

@@kevincovert9881 I was just replying to the whole "ww1 hits close to home" thing lol

Forgotten weapons got one and even disassembled it. It's the semi automatic one though. It's the civilian version.

way back in the day of Battlefield 2, the special forces expansion pack had a zipline launcher that could fire a line you could slide down and there was also a grapple hook you could throw to create a rope to climb

Is it rocket powered or something? How do they shoot above the hook or are they supposed to swing around like Tarzan to make those Just Cause esque leaps?

Cold war added new weapons so i agree with a part 2 of the cod mw 2019 video but even if we got a cod cold war part 2 i wouldnt be mad

I'd assume it's for balancing issues... If it had an accurate scope they would get too many kills from too long a range.

@@KickyFut He's not talking about an automatic rangefinder, he's talking about mil dots for bullet drop distance. I doubt most battlefield player would be able to use a passive rangefinder to measure their range and use the mil dots correctly anyways.

@@Alphonselle BF4 had Mildots and a rangefinder. And the snipers in that game were insanely ranged

I'm 90% sure he did review a payday game.

Honestly, most of Payday's guns aren't that interesting. But we can probably find enough for an episode. Here's an idea: Historical: TT-33 (plus shotgun barrel) SUB-2000 (actual folding gun, and DMR damage for some reason) Walther P30L (Wick animations) Five-seveN (piercing through sheilds) M202 FLASH Groza (with electric grenades) Goofy: Your ultra cursed mod of choice. Suppressed and scoped Taurus Judge perhaps? Heavy Crossbow (+ longsword for kicks) Minigun, chopped up Sterling and MG42 modded as an E-11 and DLT-19 Raffica modded as the Auto 9 Sentry gun

@@TugaAvenger theres also the super stubby .50 cal thanatos

Most of the interest in Payday 2 weapons are in the attachments. It'd be interesting, but not groundbreaking.

Can‘t forget the magic 23 round garand. You CANNOT talk about guns in payday 2 without talking about it. It‘s law or something

As another Brit I wish to express my complete hatred for the pronunciation of "beeta", "bayta" forever.

Greek pronunciation something like *beetha* so you Englishmen are closer to correct... *this time*

To quote Warden Chandler from the Dresden Files: “The language is English. I am English. Therefore mine is the only opinion that matters, colonial heathen.” 😋

Holy crap it's actually him

@@celtins6648 Because you're ignorant, and educated through youtube videos.

yes and dont forget the DLC including Global mobilation (cold war germany) and the Prarie fire(US vietnamn war).

If memory serves, it was first introduced into the base Battlefield 2 game with the Special Forces expansion pack.

@@BackwardsPancake yep! Bf2 Special Forces had a zipline gun

Huh. Didn't know that, guess that's where pr got the grappling hook from.

yes. only thing I watch on this channel. But Jonathan hosts his own videos already on Royal Armories

They make numerous videos every week, and only one of them is an expert reacting- and most of their other stuff gets more views.

should change to "Jonathan reacts"

Do you suppose they confused it with something, ISTR, referred to as "The Whisper"? One Mil-fic author, John Ringo maybe, has something like in one of his books. Supposedly, a +.30 cal, sub-sonic, sniper round. Did not seem plausible until Ian's (Forgotten Weapons) vid on a French Revolver with a scope.

@@andypanda4927 are you referring to .300 Blackout/Whisper? it's not a handgun round, it's for AR-15-style rifles with short barrels. the devs didn't confuse anything - since this is a casual shooter they made it this way for balancing. also the MR73 sniper variant still shoots regular .357 magnum.

@Robert Sears Why no

Because the weapons in those games have absolutely zero basis in reality and it would just be him quickly saying “oh that’s not real”

At least games like tf2 have real influences but doom’s stuff is completely original

@@kruumlauf5272 well that's why I said we could see the real life equivalents. The super shotgun is obvious, maybe there is a shotgun similar to the combat shotgun, depending on which doom game he looks at maybe there is a lmg similar to the heavy cannon. it could be a short but interesting episode. Also the starting pistol in Doom 2016 is based off a Baretta, though i forget which model

Kruumlauf what, and half the things in Fallout 4 or Far Cry 6 are? I want to see it.

i wouldnt with destiny. seeing literally all their guns are based on the system of light. as in light stored in the mag is just gets transported from said mag into the barrel than out of it as its becoming a bullet. but still made from the light. so unless he studies the lore of the game (unlikely) hes gonna fuck everything up thinking the guns are going to be based on current logic of how guns work. because half of the scout and pulse rifles wont work at all.

@@Thekilleroftanks idk some of the kinetic guns like servant leader, scathelocke look inspired by kalashnikovs and stuff like fatebringer or dire promise seem “real” But I agree here, stuff like telesto or vex mythoclast would be pointless to cover as they have no real life ties

@@Thekilleroftanks I mean the hand cannons and auto rifles still have real world connections as well as look so he could talk about his thought of how guns will be in this level of future etc just because the level and damage system is light based doesn't mean he cant review the other aspects, also he reviewed mass effects weapons so lets not rule it out.

Depends on the type of stock, the MP-40 has a folded stock on it. I haven't played vanguard so I don't know the stock you're talking about.

@@SilentGhxst5355 Right. Would you like an STG-44 obrez w/ no stock and a foregrip? A hand-carried stub-barrel MG-42 with a reflex sight, a Barret muzzle brake, and a tacticool flashlight? Vanguard's gun customisation can be summed up in two words: BUBBA NO.

I second this

Just gotta wait for the servers to actually be up to get some gameplay footage

For the God Emperor!

The Gyrojet was a thing. It sucked though.

what about bigger Magnum ammo?

@@darassylmoniakam Sadly you can´t just increase the size of the bullet without making the gun itself harder to control. A bigger caliber needs a stronger frame and overall bigger gun which brings more weight and overall kick. If you enlarge an SMG it will eventually just become a weaker assault rifle.

@@johnoneil9188 so it must depends of the body armours qualities then.

You realize it’s semi auto in game?

@@runescp0wn123 When I played the beta it was semi auto and you could switch it to burst, I don’t think it had full auto. Maybe he is talking about the burst firerate but idk, he called the glock a direct blowback which isn’t exactly true.

That could be kinda interesting

Yeah.

i wouldnt with destiny. seeing literally all their guns are based on the system of light. as in light stored in the mag is just gets transported from said mag into the barrel than out of it as its becoming a bullet. but still made from the light. so unless he studies the lore of the game (unlikely) hes gonna fuck everything up thinking the guns are going to be based on current logic of how guns work. because half of the scout and pulse rifles wont work at all. he has a history of not reading fairly basic lore of games. now you have destiny where it can take weeks or months to just understand the basic surface level of that games lore.

I think they could only do destiny if they carefully choose some of the weapons

Yeah like the D.F.A Hand Cannon from a while back. If you look closely it looks like a M4 lower receiver (complete with redundant mag-well) stuck to a AK looking upper receiver, cut down with a revolver cyclinder drilled in and shit stuck to it. It'd give Johnathan conniptions. Honestly though I don't think he'd have much to say about a lot of them other than "what? No." Destiny is full of weird magic frankenguns.

Theyre so fucking hard to find now and Sig has been backed up on making them, am trying to cop one now

@@deejay1534 I live in Texas and was lucky enough to find one in Pennsylvania for MSRP, which I was happy to take. Now I'm looking for a conversion kit to swap from 5.56 -> .300 @ 11.5" and I can't find a conversion kit that doesn't cost nearly twice the firearm's pricetag!

@@gelatinousturncoat No way, Im from PA and couldnt find them anywhere in stock haha. Searched damn near the whole state to find the 11.5" pistol variant and the only one I found was $2,500

@@deejay1534 That's a good deal TBH. I wanted .300 blk but $2000 for a factory new MCX was a holy grail of a deal and I couldn't risk waiting and letting it get bought up.

@@gelatinousturncoat back in 2019 I was finding them for $1,700. No way I was paying $2.5k for an MCX lol

Well its called armory for reason:)

I second this!

I third this.

That's true, BO2 has a lot of IRL weapons but of course some of which has an aesthetic change thats all. But regardless they look their part in game and irl

Not really BO2's weapon models are really ugly

@@lunchpin403 but fits well with the game

Special Forces also had a zipline gun!