Firearms Expert Reacts To Battlefield 2042’s Guns PART 3 

Hi Jonathan, I'm not sure what the difference is between C and K versions. However I know the UK Civil Nuclear Constabulary like to use the short versions of the G36. I've just found a FOI request response that lists the types of firearms in their inventory - including both C and K models. Let me know if you'd like me to email you the link.

@@derekp2674 The C variant has his use for close Engagement situations where you want the length of an Machine pistol/ Personal Defence Weapon but need the Fire Power of a Full Rifle. The down side is the G36C hase its wweaknesses on long range entgaments. Compared to the Stamdart G36 and G36K. G36K sitz between the G36 and the G36C, so for the BF 2042 game it would make more sence to include the G36K. I personaly think a Police Unit would rather take the G36C for hig risk Arrests. Since normaly Police would not have to engage on ranges above 100m. The G36K is a "bether" version of the G36. Forgot to mention that the G36K Variant is slightly sorter then the G36 but not as short as the G36C. But on the side of HK you can see the difrence clearly. I hope im not to wrong.

The K variant is the carbine version of the full size G36. Meanwhile the C variant is the much shorter version & further development of the K variant

Hello Jonathan, you're exactly right in your analysis. The only thing i would like to add is it appears to have a K stock. The full length g36 and the K have the same length stock while the C had a slightly shorter one. Little hard to tell from video but its also possible it was originally a fully built K that had the barrel, hand guard, and trigger pack swapped out. Hope this helps!

@@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 I suspect the issue isn't to do with the length of the barrel, but the marking on the receiver. Jonathan knows what the G36 varients are (he's the Keeper of Firearms at the Royal Armouries in Leeds, etc, in case you weren't aware). His point is the receiver and the barrel are off different models, but not for the usual reasons of changing the trigger group from select-fire (Military) to semi-auto (Law Enforcement).

The wrestler?

@@endymionselene165 no, a character model in the game from Battlefield 5.

I was happy to see him back in 2042 🫡

Gunther my beloved

I'm sure they would but Jonathan might not want to be lumbered with having to carry it around everywhere.

Preferably so every episode there's a brief video of Jonathan daintily dropping it into a wastepaper basket and then patiently explaining why a 9mm is better in any situation that doesn't involve an extremely unimpressed bear.

@@derekp2674 Owning the L5 lightweight variant myself, I can confirm this. It's a brick.

Well, maybe some kind of carrying contraption could be devised, that would allow him to carry it more easily. A kind of pouch hung from his belt, or strapped to the side of the torso perhaps. I'm sure somebody at the Armouries could come up with such a thing.

@@patrikhjorth3291 Isn't that called a holster?

He comes a lot. It’s actually quite impressive.

"He came" 🤨

so did i ;)

He came?? 😳😳

He came!

He literally wrote a book on bullpups.

@@CertMediocre hahaha yeah no kidding, him and Ian are two of my absolute favorite people on youtube

Considering how much the weapon designer loves his bullpups.... That's something they both will have to fight over.

@@CertMediocreI think maybe THE book on Bullpups

@@CertMediocre Specifically on British Bullpups, even more specifically from the Thornycroft to the SA-80, even more more specifically with a beautiful red cover as an option :)

The what list?

@destrega3316 it's the annual British honours from the King. You get them for services to society. OBE's, Sir, Dame etc

Yep, it was True Velocity's 6.8TVCM.

It's a travesty that Sig won the contract. Another AR platform, only even heavier now!

@@hawkeye7527 I know, isn't it odd that an established company with not only the means of production, but also a track record of producing high quality products won the contract? On the battle tested and proven AR platform no less! What a travesty, indeed.

@@hawkeye7527 Different AR.

@@ittapupu7406 Because General Dynamics is clearly just two guys in a shed who started bashing out bicycle parts 3 years ago.

Replace?!.😢😮

@@knrz2562 Yes, because belt fed = more ammo = longer continuous fire.

So far this thing and the Kord 5.45mm were in testing and the Russian military haven't shown much interest about it considering that they have the PKP already.

@@invictusangelica 'cause it's not for the army, but for the Police

@@jackhandsome1160 Usually I would ask why cops or even the FSB need a belt fed MG but since it's Russia, I guess it's just that

Have a bump for the Killzone algorithm. I miss that series.

One of my favourite games

The K and C are different models though, with the K having a longer barrel and doesn't come with a picatinny rail by default

Aw nice3

i thought it is Karabiner or Carbine, meaning assault carbine

@@forzikt No, the C was used to mean Carbine in G36c, since they had made the G36k prior to it, which used Kurz instead of Karabiner because, and I can only assume, it wasn't short enough to call a carbine.

Its real name is XCEED from Tec-Target-Schneider

Probably something similar to the 3GL that came from the Metal Storm program, which is a 3 shot 40mm grenade launcher that uses the superposed load principle and electric priming in combination to produce a grenade launcher where you can fire 3 times before you need to replace the WHOLE barrel assembly.

@@44R0Ndin That's what I was going to say. If you look at the shell when it is loaded, the front looks like it is split in two, so I am guessing that the in-game explanation is that it is an electronically fired cartridge that fires half of the shell per shot.

Apparently there were a few blackpowder revolvers that worked like that. I was hoping he'd see the description and comment on that

update in the game it now only fires one shot per loaded cartridge....

Noticed the same.

Yeah I noticed that as well. I think it's to add some visual variety to the reloads.

which makes it even more dumb than usual, taking your hand off the trigger in the exact situation where you would need it there in case you have to use the single round left in the chamber.

it might have also be done to elongate the partial reload to keep all the timings the same, which is a weird decision from a gameplay perspective but would make animation variation implementation easier. From an artistic perspective the animations in the more recent BF games are super clean and weighty, they've done a great job in that department.

@@dickizzinya9085 the rm277 in mw2 has that as well. For some reason they turned the magazine release buttons near the trigger into the bolt release, despite the gun having a unique bolt release on the right side. The rm277 in mw2 only has the rear magazine release button. A really silly design decision tbh.

theres also a different one that matt had on demoranch that shot steel discs

the gun is laser beam in BF2042 due to slow firing rate

Had exact same thought.

I came here to wonder the same thing. He says that handheld coil and rainguns existing in the next 20 years is absurd. Meanwhile I'm like...both already exist. They're prototypes, sure, but they're surprisingly capable for prototypes. I fully believe that railguns and coilguns will see major strides in the next 20 years.

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe it's because the EMG-02 is extremely underpowered for it's size? It is a start though. I could see a coilgun like that in 20 years time. Better supercapacitors and batteries. Maybe superconducting coils too.

Glad someone(s) else was going to ask this, too. :-)

The point Johnathan makes about coil guns being rather unlikely is this: Carrying the power supply alone is an unreasonable burden for soldiers or military personnel (and will certainly be so in 20 years' time), considering the weight of regular equipment, which is seldom less than 30 kg. Batteries and electrical components in general are usually heavy and carry a certain potential danger for the user. Especially with the current doctrine of using unmanned equipment, such as drones, to keep the casualty rate as low as possible. A soldier who dies only brings something to the enemy side. I think it is more likely that we will move from projectile weapons directly to "energy beam weapons" than produce energy-loaded projectile weapons. But even that is still in an unpredictable future. Edit: Above all, a new weapon system must bring with it incredibly many more advantages than the existing ones. So here's the question: what does a modern M4 currently weigh with a loaded 30-round magazine plus the spare magazines in the vest carrier? Can the energy weapon undercut this weight and what other advantages does it bring me? We have all heard and read about burnt-out e-bikes and e-cars of all kinds and know how difficult these fires are to put out. I wouldn't want to carry a battery like that around in a combat situation. The projectiles that could potentially hit me are more than enough for me.

I'm sure Jonathan is aware of the ArcFlash coil guns but I think he was referring to EM guns capable of actually outperforming conventional "powder guns". As he hinted, a viable candidate threshold for that would require meeting or exceeding the performance of DMRs or anti-materiel rifles. The 10mm square bore railgun that I used to manage could accelerate 1 gram projectiles to around 3000 m/s but was powered by a room full of 8000 V capacitors. Our best ever firing rate was about 1 shot per week, but we were an aerospace research project, not a military technology development programme. Not least from current interests in electric vehicle developments, power supplies should be becoming more effective with regard to power per unit volume or per unit mass. But our experience was that power supply work was the least favourite part of the EM gun research, as seen by military funding agencies. That's why I really applaud the work that ArcFlash are doing.

Bf2042 is horrible when it comes to having correct magazine models and round count in them. It's been like that since it came out. Really weird thing to do

​@@TheMusicftw1it has high power round as a default mag (less damage drop at longer range), and for sake of balance it default mag can hold 20 rounds, but the standard round with 30 rounds mag can be unlocked later.

The civilian version is called the Genesis

If it's using the weird polycase ammo I dont see an appreciable market for it, but using 308/6.5Creed/.277 Fury and SR 25 magazines there will be some market. Probably the same people buying FDE SCAR17s a few years ago.

EON! Yes!

Everything or Nothing has the weird situation where nearly everything has the capacity made wrong at the last minute (the demo had correct capacity), and the models all being very crude even for the era.

@@kanrakucheese yeah, definitely in need of a remake.

I mean that is literally just what the lore text that was on-screen said, I think.

Not yet, but with the advances in battery technology it may be a thing sooner that people think it will. Or maybe in 2042?

The Rorsch does like 2500 m/s of muzzle velocity, the real coilguns are like 60 :D

How to quickly identify them: The K version has 4 holes while the C only has 2 above the barrel

I though a $700 red dot on a $600 handgun felt bad, a $3500 gun on a $500 red dot feels worse 😂 I couldnt care less about HK weapons but Tommybuilt is definitely a cool company. If you got the money, do it.

Don't forget that British Aerospace used to own H&K and would have been happy to produce batches of bespoke models to satisfy orders from individual police forces.

Yeah, the rim keeps a 'push through' belt from being a good idea (since the rim would get hung up on the belt link as it's being pushed) but the way disintegrating links work is perfectly compatible with rimmed cartridges. It just needs to have links that will be pinned together when a round is pushed into them when being belted up.