If you only get to know one weapon trivia in CoD:BO, let it be "the game was purely set in 1960s, a time period when most weapons in the game didn't exist" 😂
Not to mention how several Cold War (2020) guns, set in the 80s, use models that would have fit better in the game set in the 60s, like the EM2 instead of BO1'S Enfield.
Anachronism is Treyarch's schtick. BO4, a futuristic title, also has anachronistic elements, and they're purely in-universe. They're real pros at this.
I can't remember where but I heard a rumor that BO1 in it's development was originally supposed to take place in the 80's because of the anachronistic guns and a lot of the footage used in cut scenes being from there but that somewhere along the line they changed it to 60's and we're too far along to make drastic changes.
@@9000Dogs along with also having guns that wouldn't exist until later on like the QBZ-95, the exception could be the Norinco Type 86 but the campaign is set in 1981-1984 if I remember
My favorite bit about the HS10 is that both IRL and in the game there's a big warning on the side telling the user not to fire it from the left shoulder (because then hot shell casings will be ejected directly into your cheek and neck). And yet, not only is dual wielding an option in the game, it's the only attachment available for the weapon.
You'd think in the game that allowed you to attach a suppressor on a SPAS-12 they'd allow you to jury rig a reflex sight, foregrip or an extended barrel and tube to act as alternative attachments... Not that I'm really complaining, as it's pointless in this point in time, but it's just something to note.
@@farenhitegr6493 Extended mags would have been super easy. The HS10 IRL came in two flavors (four really, but only two in regards to magazine size): One with a four round tube and one with a six rounder. The in-game weapon only has a four shell capacity, but visibly has the larger magazine. So an extended mags "attachment" wouldn't have even required a new model or anything.
@@philipgodsworth4764 Akimbo weapons actually aren't mirrored in Black Ops. When dual wielding the HS10, the one in the left hand has its carry handle swiveled to the other side, presumably so it isn't directly in the player's face. Meanwhile the charging handle and warning label, the only two major features of the weapon that are not symmetrical, are both in the same place on the left hand weapon that they are on the right. (Also the carry handle being flipped doesn't require any modifications or anything. The place it actually attaches to the gun is just below the rear sight, rather than coming off the right side as the animations seemingly imply).
I guess you mean Jonathon Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history
@@knockout_jelly0615 yeah exactly, in Military Conflict Vietnam and Rising Storm 2 there's the M16A1 and XM177E2 (also XM607 for MCV). They're both distinguishable Another example is the M16A1, XM177E1 and XM177E2 for the Navy SEALs unit mod for Door Kickers 2
12:02 The stockless SMGs in Black Ops 1 have unfolded / useable stocks when using the "grip" attachment. Fun fact: on the Wii version when using "grip," the stocks also appear but appear in the folded / collapsed position.
Ahhh, the XM8. My favorite futuristic-looking swordfish gun. That one weapon in the early 2000s where every COD and Battlefield developer believed the XM8 is the next generation rifle to replace the M4.
This is correct. The 28 ga version wasn't even a commercial failure, it was just a demonstration of what they could make, as such a handgun would be quite illegal to sell without jumping through many, many hoops with the NFA 34 and GCA 68.
Battlefield Hardline has a Taurus Judge model named the .410 Jury which gives us "Judge, Jury and Executioner". Wasn't the Judge named for courtroom self-defence use by Miami judges? Plenty of dedicated personal-defence loads available for .410.
@@barticle how would a judge even use that unless the assailant was out in the open nowhere near anyone else? they'd be firing in the direction of everyone else in the courtroom lol
@cr1tikal_arc Yeah open or conceal carry seems like a splendid idea as long as you don’t think too hard about how firearms actually function in reality, but that requires thoughts and many gun nuts lack those 😂
Please Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, deconstruct & analyze the weapons of *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out. So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like;- - The Patriot's infinite ammo and drum magazine resembling an (∞) symbol as well as the tumbling bullets. - The EZ tranq gun based off a Liberator pistol. - Snake's customized officer M1911A1 and him whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC. - Ocelot's dual Single Action Army and his revolver juggling skills. - The End's custom paratrooper Mosin Nagant with tranquilizer rounds. - The Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher. - Eva's chinese Type 17 mauser clone with her "bandit shooting" technique. - Tatyana's single shot lipstick pistol. - Volgin using his electricity to ignite and fire off 7.62mm bullets from his hands. - The Boss's quick ability to disarm and disassemble Snake's pistols. These are a few examples and there are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please Dave and Jonathan, please consider making a video for MGS3.
Something I remember hearing that's pretty funny is that IIRC, all the customizations on Snakes 1911 had become standard issue for the US Marines Force Recon and Expiditionary Units under the designation M45 MEUSOC pistols in 1985, 20 years after the events of MGS3
I too remember this. Before I had online internet, I always played offline campaign and multiplayer with bots. I remember the PDW57 being so good with consistent TTK and low recoil. But when I finally got online, downloaded the patch and was tripping on why the PDW57 felt so off and different.
Weapons of Fallout: London should absolutely be reviewed by Johnathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history
16:14 This is actually something that always bothered me about Black Ops 2, it did treat the AN-94 like it was the next iteration of the AK, even if it was an overly complicated/expensive gun. So I couldn't help but be annoyed seeing the ragged militia group in 2025 using them as their standard firearm when it would make infinitely more sense for them to just use the regular AK-47 _that was already in the game._
Well tbf, the militia group is funded by a narco-terrorist with funds enough to hire a Cuban PMC with everything from helicopters to optical camo suits, so the "raggedy militia" having everything from AN-94s to MANPADs is somewhat more believable
I would’ve gone with the AK-103 since its offered for export. Though many of the countries that currently use it didn’t start doing so until after 2012 when the game came out.
I own a high standard model 10 B (hs10) For anyone wondering, the reload is fudged, you have to hold down the button on the side of the receiver to unlock the loading gate/elevator. The recoil is brutal, they only like buckshot or slugs as well. Using them one handed is more of an emergency thing. Using one in the left hand would leave you eating shotgun shells. They eject pretty hard back.
A lot of older semi-auto shotguns functioned that way. SPAS-12 is probably the most famous these days, but the original Browning Auto-5 had that requirement too. It’s due to how the bolt hold open function works. Modern semi-autos updated the design to still have a bolt hold open but not have to hold down the bolt release to load, including newer Auto-5s. The SPAS-12 remains the most famous shotgun with this quirk since it’s a pop culture icon, yet never was updated with the modern way of loading.
Ive heard a theory that BO1 was supposed to be set in the 1980s, because theres so much stuff from the 80s, even intel from cutscenes that talk about niche stuff about soviet special forces in the 1980s, that it looks like it was supposed to be set then. The theory goes that it was supposed to be set in the 1980s, but some higher ups at activision changed it to the 1960s to fit some cool vietnam missions in.
I’ll take this a step further to say that maybe the flashback missions in bo2 and elements from Cold War are just old ideas from the cutting room floor for bo1. It makes sense as to why the only two bad black ops games are 3 and 4
@@thetruecoollcat9370 It had a lot more than just a flashbang shell. In the Russian military it is actually designated as a carbine and not a shotgun, it's more so a tool than a weapon. With a lot of less-than-lethal, breaching and of course, the aforementioned flashbang shell. That together with some actual lethal shells like buckshot (or shrapnel shot as it is referred to) and slugs. The reason for it's cabine designation is because the barrel is rifled, as it uses recycled 23mm anti-aircraft barrels. (I believe for the Shilka SPAAG.) Very interesting firearm with a very interesting history that goes beyond "haha big bore go boom" hehe. :)
9:37 We were taught in the US Marine Corps that when you’re doing a speed reload, you “drop” the rifle down and catch it while pressing the mag release to drop the mag out. The “drop” of the rifle is to ensure the mag actually comes out smoothly for a quick uninterrupted reload.
Its interesting that Jonathan should mention the Kel-Tec P50, and how the top cover needs to be lifted up for reloads, when talking about the PDW-57. The weapon was recently added to MWIII and the devs changed the reload to put the magazine in from the side, seemingly as an intentional callback to the PDW-57.
Those Black ops clips brings back so many memories. What would bring back memories too would be if Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armouries museum in the UK, looked at the games of Deus Ex games, like the Jensen Duology !
1:49 The hi standard model 10's buttplate actually rotates with the express intent that you can turn it sideways, brace it against your bicep, and use it one handed. The idea was that police teams clearing buildings could open the door with one hand while still having the shotgun at the ready. There's the Model 10b with an integrated flashlight too.
My favourite CoD's, though much of that is because I worked in Vietnam for 3 years and Black Ops 1 did a surprisingly faithful job replicating the spirit of Vietnam with the maps. Even weapons like the China Lake are in Saigons war museum.
@@screamingcactus1753Bo3 and infinite warfare had custom loadouts. So I don’t know if your talking about a specific cod that you wanted custom loadouts or you didn’t know
I was 7 years old when I first played Black Ops and I’m now noticing how the same rear iron sights was used on multiple guns. Enfield Commando Famas G11 M60
We don't have a marine corps in the Malaysian military and the soldiers in 20:35 are from the Malaysian Navy's PASKAL (Pasukan Khas Laut/Naval Special Warfare Forces), which Jonathan incorrectly pointed out. However, the closest thing we have to a marine corps is the Malaysian Army's 10th Parachute Brigade, which is an elite division-sized hybrid airborne-marine unit.
@@razer666Lstrangely,in his older video when he covered the popular weapons that didn't get adopted (XM8 included),he somewhat mentioned them as "Royal Malaysia Navy (but didn't mention PASKAL)
The wiki page for the JVPC does state that it was actually called the MSMC as well! And the Kel Tec pistol you brought up later was actually just added to MW3 in Season 5! Hope you’ll cover more MW3 guns again soon
Well KS-23 was originally designed with non lethal purposes in mind. Like crowd control and law enforcement in general. 23mm is no joke. It has a huge range of ammunition types like rubber bullets, flash rounds, small gas grenades, huge slug meant to stop an engine of a car in case of a police chase and yes it could launch a grappling hook.
This being of course Jonathon Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history
It would be amazing if Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history, could check out the weapons from They Are Coming.
its so endearing in the intros where johnathan is holding incredibly historically relevant weaponry but also smiling like his mom just said "say cheese"
It's just portrayed in the dramatization, for style. That show awarded victory by assigning points based on presumed loadouts and then running "battle simulations" that I'm pretty sure just amounted to adding dice rolls to the total scores.
Jonathan often mentions something like "that design typical for this period" or "thats a classic cold war era weapon" I'd like to see a video that shows a timeline of the overall theme of weapon design and how the different eras and their individual needs crisises affected the gun design. I guess that in times of war you go for cheap and easy designs that can be mass produced but in times of peace you go all over the place with design, materials, looks and try out new technology.
One possible idea on improving the ballistic knife, is a captured spring/piston system (like today's AR captured buffer spring systems), and each knife has a pre-set spring, allowing for easy 'reloads' into the handle.
I still want to see Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armories museum in the UK, deconstruct & analyze the weapons of Cruelty Squad.
i hope Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries in the UK can react, analyse and decunstruct the guns and weapons of Generation Zero, they look great and i feel the game is underrated for how good it is, there are some cursed guns too fyi. also the Restistance trilogy would be great as well!
It would be cool to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe. The bows in Warframe are interesting too: the Paris bow accelerates its arrows using magnets and the Bramma shoots clusterbomb-tipped arrows
Warframe is interesting, agreed. But please, consider how utterly impossible it would be to get footage of all the weapons in this game. It literally takes thousands of hours to unlock all the stuff.
I love like when he analyzes the real weapons! Awesome to see how much they match real life. Great audio/video quality too! Glad to be out of the zoom recording era
Planetside 2 actually does the same thing with the targeting computer, where it eliminates weapon sway rather than actually doing anything to help you aim. That's partly because range-finding is done by an implant, and partly because Snipers are annoying enough as is. Planetside 2 actually does have maps big enough for snipers to do the sniping thing.
Planetside! I loved that game for the PS4 but when I switched to Xbox it completely swept under my radar for all these years,and I don't have a good enough PC to play it. Is the game doing good? Is it worth getting back to if I get the chance?
For the HS10 a Guntuber by the name Kentucky Ballistics has shot the HS10 and has stated its not very good for police service, from what I remember him saying
7:45 Wouldn't having the sling caught on the bolt catch potentially also run the risk of locking the bolt open during firing, even if you're not done shooting? Similar to how a poor grip on a pistol might cause the slide stop to engage prematurely.
That last one reminds me of an American gun shop tv show which I probably can’t name because of what the owner turned out to be guilty of. A customer came in trying to get one working, was informed that as it was, it was illegal in the states, and then the shop modified it to be propelled by gunpowder instead of a spring.
@@BrowncoatGofAZ I know, I was trying to make sure we were on the same page without saying the actual name. I watched it a lot back before I discovered GunTubers, and it had its good moments, but as with all "reality" shows it was more drama than anything else.
It's nice he realized he has a new full name. Wow! It is super wacky that most of the ballistic knife shoots out. That's the sort of info I watch these videos for
@@ARandomSpecOpexcept for the "AK74u" which gets an actual modern vert grip and still lacks a stock. This gun can have a freaking suppressed grenade launcher and lacks a stock
@@Randomly_Browsing I know all of this, but the lack of S would technically mean it doesn't have a FOLDING stock, implying it would have a normal solid stock instead. But in-game it has none, just the hinges for a side folder, making it the only "SMG" to not get a stock when equipped with a "grip" attachment
There is a version of the SITES Spectre that has no stock and no holes for it on the rear sight protectors. Ian from forgotten weapons did a video on this specific version. It's a us import semi-auto version.
This spring knife reminded me of a one shot hidden crossbow thingy, used in Terry Prachetts 5th Elephant. Partly because of the remarks on reloading. - Vimes turned the thing over and over in his hands. It looked vaguely like a long-handled hammer, or perhaps a strangely made telescope. What it was, basically, was a spring. That’s all a crossbow was, after all. ‘It’s a devil to load,’ he said. ‘I nearly ruptured myself cocking it against a rock. You’d only get one shot.’ ‘But it’s the shot no one expects, mhm, mhm.’
The commando was the colt commando it was essentially an m16 that was designed to be more compact and lighter than the standard m16. It was used for covert ops for a short time during Vietnam. Forgotten we has a video on it. It's the colt 639
Would be really cool to see him cover some of the guns in CoD Ghosts, say what you want about that game but it had some interesting guns. Would love to see him talk about the Bulldog/MAUL, Ameli, and FAD in particular, but the Bulldog is a must lol
If I understand correctly, the ks23 did have certain ammo types where you loaded a blank and then put something down the barrel. I think they did it for tear gas grenades. A harpoon/grappling hook might not be out of the question
On the stockless Spectre M4, there were multiple civilian variants with the US Import Spectre-HC being treated as a pistol with neither the grip or stock, though some variants would have one or the other iirc.
5:27 Jonathan makes a good point here. I don't know why CoD from the 2010s was so enamored with right hand reloads when left hand reloads have been the standard procedure since using the trigger hand wasn't the best of ideas lol. I do understand it's better for paddles on the back than the ubiquitous side button.
Killzone and The Conduit is all I need to be reviewed. The Conduit being Wii exclusive might make it a bit weird to get footage of, but still, it'll be worth seeing Jonathan's reaction to all the weapons and tech on display in it.
12:29 there are actually stockless versions of the Spectre, in order to conform with US regulations they were either sold as a 'Carbine' variant with the stock attached but a much longer barrel (much like the FS-90), or were sold with the normal barrel length sans stock as a 'pistol'. The pistol version did however still have the cross pin needed for attaching the stock, so the game is indeed incorrect due to its absence
I have a Taurus judge. I have a small home in the city, PDX .410 rounds are perfect for my home defense situation. That's all it's good for but it's a perfect pillow gun for me.
Wow... this video brings back memories. Black Ops 1 and 2 are the only COD games I've ever played - totally addicted to the multiplayer (despite not being that great at it!) but for some reason, stopped playing any from the series since. I'm going to play Modern Warfare 3 via Game Pass at some point, but it's going to feel odd after all these years
I’d like to see an experts react on the command and conquer series, I feel it would be interesting to see how an expert would break down some of the more advanced technology especially in the tiberium timeline
If I’m not wrong, the PDW-58 is supposed to be a mix between a P90 and the PDR-C or PDW-R in Battlefield. A gun that’s supposed to tale AR mags but in a small package for crew or pilots. The size, shape, and charging handle make me assume so.
This is what made me subscribe because I love the Black ops series but the only one I can currently play before the full bo6 releases is bo3 on the ps5. But I mainly play on pc now.
About the HS10 and Akimbo, you shouldn't use it like that, even on the shoutgun itself it says "caution do not shoot from the left shoulder" because in that case the spent casings would be shooting right at you. However thanks to the pivoting butplate you can easily shoot it one-handed so in that regard akimbo is plausible (apart from all those casings coming back at you:).
Seeing his comment at the end of the PDW section about COD games in his eyes being primarily in the past and present makes me more curious to see how he'll react to the weapons from the future era of the series (Advanced Warfare, Black Ops 3, Infinite Warfare) because safe to say that was definitely the point where they went off the rails in terms of the game's weapons lol.
Slightly off topic but, I will always find it funny how a year prior, the ballistic knife would feature in an episode of spike tvs "deadliest warrior" where it was stated to be a primary weapon of Russian spetsnaz
The PDW-57 originally had far less recoil, so little and so dominant in the meta that they introduced that amount of recoil to it in one of the last updates for Black Ops 2. Wish you could've found older footage.
Hey guys, love this series, and Johnathan is basically a great guy to discuss stuff like this, but I would love to see you guys tackle the uncharted series, cause even though there not realistic Nathan drake has one heck of an arsenal in all of the games, just putting it out there
I've always thought that the ballistic knives were shot with gas pressure rather than spring loaded, particularly because in BO4 where you get attachments for it an improved gas cylinder is an option
We don't have a marine corps in the Malaysian military and the soldiers in 20:35 are from the Malaysian Navy's PASKAL (Pasukan Khas Laut/Naval Special Warfare Forces), which Jonathan incorrectly pointed out. However, the closest thing we have to a marine corps is the Malaysian Army's 10th Parachute Brigade, which is an elite division-sized hybrid airborne-marine unit.
