FireBox VS Free Soldier and the Stanley Prep Cook Pot VS MSR 1200 ml Cook Pot 

Cool comparison Mart! They both seemed to work pretty good to me. Probably, if you were only tending to one fire, either box would do just fine...trying to keep two going would be a job for anybody!!! Nice job!!!

I am using the new 5” Folding Firebox Stove with side feeding holes. I purchased the Stanley cook set. I use this cook combo for camping and whenever I need an emergency back up at home. Came in handy during a recent ice storm.

Firebox is awesome. I've had it for about 2 years and just ordered a nano for solo trips. I've even used it to create an oven with a Billy pot and bake some yum yums. The key is to use Swedish torch method for a long burn. Also, feeding wood from the bottom through the holes is much easier. Secondly, Stanley anything adventure is great. Some are a bit heavier than the much more expensive titanium post and such but I would recommend any Stanley pot or pan to anyone, they are all great. Thanks for the video.

I have ordered the Free Soldier, i made my choice on price alone. I live in the UK. The firebox is £80 the Free Soldier is £25. It was an easy choice.

If you pay attention to how the Firebox Stove comes when new, you will see that the ash pan snaps across the folded stove, and the Firesticks (cross pieces) slide in and lock into place, making it a much more compact unit to stow into the pouch. Agree with others, use the Swedish Fire Torch method, or use charcoal, or a Trangia alcohol stove fits (nested inside), or solid fuel tabs laid onto the ash pan in a higher location... you have great versatility with the Firebox Stove. The tighter seal of lid for the MSR would explain the faster boil, more heat retained, the Stanley's holes in the lid (to strain off water) would cause that variance between them.

I just aquired firebox stove Gen 2. Got all accessories for it as a Christmas gift. I love it. The trick to it is, pre load it with some pretty big chunks of wood and fill in a lot of the space with small stuff or do a sweedish fire torch configuration in it. It burns a long time like this and you do not have to feed it. Pluse it is so versatile with the accessories, it is like having a multitool stove as one person put it. Unlimited in your imagination with that stove. Plus is is so easy to set up. Maybe try it that way Mr. Mark, see how you like then. It must be so hot where you live

I have the 1st get folding firebox w/ the pot ring attachment and the stanley prep cook set. I also have a titanium alcohol burner that fits into and works perfectly with the folding firebox. I love this set up! Great video!

I recently purchased a MSR pot and by slightly adjusting the metal pieces on the side that hold the handle the problem of handle collapse was solved. The handle still functions as designed. Took all of about 10 seconds to make this minor adjustment. Btw, the lid is not meant to be used bare handed. It is designed to be used with a utensil, stick, knife or whatever is available. The MSR is good quality compared to the junk Stanley is selling with the plastic tab that melts. Not being critical just providing additional info. Good vid showing pros and cons of stoves.

The gen 2 firebox now has large fuel feed openings on two sides so that you can cross the ends of sticks over each other and get some good vortex action. That, plus the ease of setting up, makes it my choice.

Forestwalker111 answered my question. I really enjoyed this comparison video.

Excellent video brotha! Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed it!!

I have to give the free soldier an additional advantage in that it is original design and not a copy of the Bushbox stove like the firebox stove.

The current firebox has the side feed holes that you like. But if you set it up in the swedish fire torch method you won't have to be constantly feeding it sticks. With beech wood I get about an hour burn before I need to feed it more wood. The are many youtube videos on this with the firebox stove. Good Luck.

Thank for this demo! I was liking the firebox stove but not so much now, I think the other type is better for my needs. Thanks again.

Cool comparison video, Mart. That egg looked mighty tasty no matter what it was cooked on. YUM!

Just the right video that I needed to see this morning. I already have the MSR pot and two smaller Stanley Adventure kits. There is a special at my local store this morning so I'm going to order this larger Stanley pot

Good Test Brother Mart. I am not so much about head to head teats...I am more impressed by the impressions of someone using something for the first time!! Great Review!!

The generation 2 folding firebox stove has two small feed ports at offset heights which allow you to cross sticks as you feed them in, allowing a better burn where they cross. Also , if you check their website, you can do a modified Sweedish fire torch set up which will give a longer burn time. You could possibly modify the Gen 1 stove and add the Gen 2 style feed ports.

I have the Firebox Nano and the MSR pot! These are both in my bug out bag

Hello Mam land 121 nice video. I have a question for you if you don't mind me asking. What video editing do you use. It has been so long that the one I was using is no longer available. I have about 4 video but I need to edit them.

The Firebox will last a life time if looked after and is way more versatile. That other tin thing will last about 15 mins or until you try to assemble it with frozen fingers and stomp on it in frustration (speaking from experience). If you want a cheap folding stove go for the Lixada 5” stove with hinges. 😉🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Love those alpine pots. I have tried many others and you are right. that little tab on top of the lid does get warm. Great side by side.

Good show and tell video, Mart. I don't own either of those stoves. I think I'll stick with my Bushcraft Essentials XL Bushbox. It's a beast, and it's served me well the few times I've used it so far. As far as the pots, I have owned a couple of the MSR Seagull pot for the last five years. At first I questioned the stability of its handle too, but I can honestly say that it has never failed on me. It's a great little pot imo.

The part of the firebox you were goiing to attack with the Dremel is a special expansion plate designed to keep the stove form warping. The new generation Firebox has Rocket stove type feed ports as well.

I have the 1200 & 1600 MSRs, I like them the best, I like Being able to Lock Items in them in my Pack, I also have the Pathfinder Bottle Kit with Fish Mouth Spreader they use to hand the Bottle and Cup, Which also can Lock into the MSR pot lid and you can use it as a Small Frying Pan, I also have seen One guy Hang a wire between the Pot handle and the Latch so its in a Triangle above pot to Hand it, (Ive yet to make the wire yet, but I will), you can also Cut a small wood Handle to lift the MSR lid I don't use Camp Stoves but I agree, the fire box needs a Feed Hole in the side

The firebox Gen2 now has 2 bottom feed ports! Use smaller diameter and shorter sticks to top feed the firebox stove.

. I think either one of these sets would be OK. It would just depend on the one you liked better. Thank you for the video, Mart

Just found your channel fun and lots of info thanks I need one of these for when I go kayaking Kinda wondered what the difference was now I know and knowing is half the battle

I don't like the MSR because of the handle and the Free Soldier is too open. I would do like you suggested and open the Firebox just enough to feed.Talking about feeding, cook the boy some more eggs!

Looked like the Stanley would nest well inside the other. If case, it'd make a nice two-pot combo for storage.

Seems like every camp pot is a compromise vs. a proper kitchen pot. Why can't I have a fat, solid handle and a lid that stays locked firmly on? Both these pots seem great but both have flaws, too. Thanks for the vid, very helpful!

Nice comparison, I guess personal preference is the real determining factor.

I like the free soldier cook stove except for the handle on the pot ... very good review

It appears you were not using the fire sticks to rest the pot on the Firebox. I’ve never had an issue with feeding the Firebox from the top or through the two side ports, which work well.

The Stanley with the Soldier stove is the way to go. The firebox is just that, a box for a fire and not for cooking.

A great watch and listen. You have a cracking sense of humour evidenced in the video and comments section lol. Thank you:)

Its a toss up I have to say. I would be right proud to own either one of these stoves. The days of a traditional grate over a fire is still valid, But these stoves are becoming better and better brother. But Before Bluefin begins bartering bargains, Ben better blast beyond brackish bayous baking buttered Blueberry buns. Bravo buddy bravo. :)

One additional difference between the two stoves is how sturdy they are or aren't. The owner of firebox stoves has a video out where he stacks cast iron dutch ovens on the folding firebox stove...like 4 to 5 of them, full of water to boot! I would not suggest doing that with most other stoves. Although the sturdier and heavier stove may be good for camping as opposed to back packing. But then there is the Firebox Nano(generation 2). Ease of set up is worth gold in the field when you're cold and shivering and need a fire NOW. Another stove you may wish to try is the Lixada gassifier type stove. It is a $20 Chinese knock off of the Silverfire Scout stove and is designed to fit inside a 750 ml MSR pot. When I was a teenager I was helping with yard work on a Saturday afternoon while my dad was assembling a new grill. After 30 minutes or so I heard him laugh, then he was done a couple of minutes later. I asked him what he was laughing at. He brought me a piece of paper that was in the box with the new grill. It said "when all else fails, read the instructions!" He said "if I'd done that sooner I'd have been finished 20 minutes ago! Reading the instructions or watching the manufacturers videos would be helpful in the case of the firebox stove. He usually gives the reasons why it's best to do some things in a very specific way, or why something is made a certain way, and the engineering behind it.

Two great stoves for sure I have the FireBox one, and of course the great Gasifier Stove....

I like that the Free Soldier has few parts and no hinges, and a nice open side, but I worry that would make controlling the fire in windy places harder, also how strong is the steel, ManLand121, do you think the Free Soldier's construction hooks are in danger of bending in from impact and making it hard to assemble? Thanks. o/

The MSR has that raised bottom, if you fry steak or pieces of chicken they don't cook evenly, it's a pain to keep stirring so it cooks even. I'll take a flat bottom pot.

good comparison! both sets seem to be winners. i do the same thing with hard boiled eggs.. coat em in pepper and salt and grub.

Not owning any of that stuff I would agree cut the side out of the firebox (easier access and more breathing room for fire), leave the MSR pot home ( last thing anyone needs is a 1rst degree burn in woods). My opinion based on this video. Oh Yeah boil the eggs before going out, lol

I love this video brother! I have no criticism at all, since I don't measure water too often, or cook in milliliters! Lol! I get it! Just two cool pots, two cool stoves and a few differences.This isn't a Hiram Cook scientific test. I seriously enjoyed this Mart!

Very cool video Mart. Always a good laugh to be had but also a very interesting demo! There is of course a feed port on the gen2 firebox, two in fact, and that helps a lot. I find that if there is too much air getting in Mike the massive feed door that the free soldier offers, yes you'll get a quicker blaze, but then that becomes The problem because you're focusing more on constantly feeding the stove rather than cooking on the stove which the firebox allows you to do by burning a bit slower. But that is just my opinion buddy. And I'm sorry the bag has torn like that. Great video though brother. Awesome egg boil! Lol Be well Craig

No one says okey dokey any more, but it's good to hear God bless

There is a newer version of the firebox that does allow adding fuel from the side.

I can't wait to watch the turkey cooking video! With ALL the fixing too! Right??? ;) Thanks for the comparison.

It sure woulda been fun to b hangin around with you while you shot this video. I have always been a fan of stove and pot shoot outs

Do not cut into the Firebox, those side panel cut-outs are expansion plates so the firebox does not warp. Have a look at the new design Firebox for bottom feeding and then cut out your feed hole according to the new design.

I guess the Free Soldier has some cool features, however, a big part for me is my camp stove having some kind of I guess top bracket fort my pot to sit, not everyone's camp pot is big enough to sit on top without a brace for it so that cancels it for me☹

was it hot out side before ya got the soldier stove or did it get hot because you were hot to do this vid lol lol

the Stanly to the brim is approximately 1400 ml but who fills a pot to the brim so the msr is in reality 1000 not 1200

A collapsing handle could be a real big issue; good information

Nice video thanks

you all OK by the looks of it thank God well they did the deed so yup just a matter of what you like or have great vid Mart atb ....tom

you just convinced me to get neither one of these.

I think both stoves and cook pots did good>>>>>> Good review>>>>> good video.....

Great info Thanks

well done!! didn't seem one sided at all and goods and bads both ways really....I have been looking at the MSR pot for a while but I really want to get me a zebra 12cm pot next! I think maybe you should do a giveaway on a 12 cm zebra and I should win the giveaway.....sound like a good idea???

See steves youtube channel and see both the 3 inch nano and 5 inch firebox cook for 45 mins and longer without being tended to. I have both and they are amazingly versatile and bomb proof. hope this helps.

good stuff man. like and a sub for bird!

Also, I am a big fan of the molle system and there is a molle pouch that fits the Firebox perfectly. Makes it easy to carry strapped to a bugout bag. smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KB84KNE/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Next time use alot of salt. Why you only use a little? Wow! Is anything gunna grow where u ate ? Never knew about this cheese grater stove. Thanks !

This guy doesn't have a clue! That Firefox is a waste because you cant feed it easily. The Stanley pot is safe around the campfire. If the lid moving is freaking someone out, then they have troubles.

what ya call front and back are sides the part with big square hole is front but you orientate it as ya like

thump up..... subscription earned

I like the bush box xl titanium

I like ur style! Cool vid! I sub'd!

try cutting a loading hole in the side of a coffee can and cook it that

C zeek Republic? Are you serious? Ha ha!

good test

Видео класс, лайк автору, Взаимная дружба всем

check out the IRIDIUM stove it's built for punishment and never fails

It is not a good idea to cut the firebox.

for a truer test measure the water to equal amounts

It’s pronounced “check” Republic

I have pots from the mid 40s i camp with. Their heaver. But made way better.

Wonder if he paid by Czech

Hi there my friend, I prefer the Firebox as apposed to the other one, I saw that your firebox cover is just about had it, have a word with Robert (bluegrassbushcraft) as I made him a leather pouch to hold his Firebox stove in, and if you would like me to make you one (F.O.C.) I am prepared to do that, Robert has my address, so just let him or me know, take care my friend. ATB Ray

do the same video with the pots switched around

I think a more accurate comparison would have been to use the fire box gen2, nonetheless, I will take this info into consideration when making my purchase think you!!

First of all, there is no 1200 ml MSR Stowaway Pot. There are only 4 sizes: 475 ml, 775 ml, 1.1 L, & 1.6 L. You probably have the 1.1. Secondly, in a head to head competition, you put the Folding Firebox Stove at a disadvantage by not utilizing the ash pan under the burn chamber. It holds hot coals that radiate back to aid the burn. I know that crappy Free Soldier doesn't have an ash pan, but that's not Firebox's fault! Please show the real difference between these two. And "barely enough to get the Stanley pot on the Firebox"? REALLY? That's what those firesticks (which you chose not to use) are for. It will accommodate ANY size pot!

its the 2nd way ya said it Czech republic

👍🏻

A little salt.😮

I THINK YOUR SICK???????9

Sizique Republic