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FIRELORD vs BEASTMASTER: Which is best as FIRST hero? - WC3 - Grubby 

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I really feel like Tavern heroes openers today! So what do we get? Firelord, or Beastmaster? Why not go for both, and see which one does best!
FIRELORD vs BEASTMASTER: Which is best as FIRST hero? (Game played on 10-March-2024)
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@sizolial
@sizolial 5 месяцев назад
I'm insanely grateful for these daily uploads Grubby. I know that can be a bit of a breakneck upload schedule, but I watch and enjoy every one. Your videos bring such a relief from the busy day
@Karim-ik5ij
@Karim-ik5ij 5 месяцев назад
I think he plays all these games in one day and uploads them piecemeal.
@tsundude4320
@tsundude4320 5 месяцев назад
​@@Karim-ik5ij yep
@thebeggarsdice6020
@thebeggarsdice6020 5 месяцев назад
Same here man.
@bulgiriri
@bulgiriri 5 месяцев назад
Probably somedays, he plays more games in order to accumulate then upload daily so he can have a day off
@DirtyMightyEra
@DirtyMightyEra 5 месяцев назад
Tavern hero first is so interesting to watch I haven't see you play Pit Lord first in a long time now 🤔
@dg5059
@dg5059 5 месяцев назад
That's because he's trying to win lol
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
​@@dg5059 he should do PL first and DL 2nd with Undead.
@feitopuns
@feitopuns 5 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure that aow got the last hit
@357MAGNUMSNIPER
@357MAGNUMSNIPER 5 месяцев назад
That bit in the end about prioritizing items is very true and also interesting to hear. Even though I've never properly played multiplayer (mostly casual player) I kinda figured from watching your videos that good players only focus on specific research and specific items. Meanwhile, a noob wants everything and to keep everything. Video idea: WC3 items tier list or some instructional video on which items you should look out for depending on what type of heroes you have.
@ThunderFire101
@ThunderFire101 5 месяцев назад
Grubby! I wish one day Grubby would write a book. Something that includes the metagames of all the years past that he can rattle off. Lifelong fan
@Dekaide44
@Dekaide44 5 месяцев назад
Its always amazing how much he does with such a small army.
@artemisamberdrive583
@artemisamberdrive583 5 месяцев назад
Between Firelord and Beastmaster cleary Panda is the best first hero
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
What about tinker ? 😂
@sergiorodrigoroyo5079
@sergiorodrigoroyo5079 5 месяцев назад
@@saimyintmyat9373 Very easy to shut down: NE: DH Orc: Raiders UD: Coilnova Humba: Anything
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 5 месяцев назад
@@sergiorodrigoroyo5079 I have seen Tinker work occasionally at the pro vs pro level. Not exactly meta, but not totally inviable either. Of course, those games were from a few patches ago, so things may have changed.
@BeyondHorizonts
@BeyondHorizonts 4 месяца назад
God damn that move at 9:03, mental fast
@Mattmt56
@Mattmt56 5 месяцев назад
Ashes to ashes and funk to funky
@purple9969
@purple9969 5 месяцев назад
Last 1:30 min of this video was more informative than hours of content
@purple9969
@purple9969 5 месяцев назад
Didn’t realize it would link that
@purple9969
@purple9969 5 месяцев назад
29:35
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 4 месяца назад
That hawk does respectable damage. Would love to see you try BM as orc with bloodlust, or undead with unholy frenzy. Just make sure to skip stampede lol.
@ross1158
@ross1158 5 месяцев назад
Feels like request fridays and funday sundays :D Love it
@damo9961
@damo9961 5 месяцев назад
Especially late game when you're preparing what could be your final attack is Invul potion more valuable than ring. Early game lv1-2 hero then regen ring can have a lot of value
@elliotbryant3459
@elliotbryant3459 5 месяцев назад
Caster debuff strat with firelord [soul burn], dark ranger [silence] and maybe blood mage [banish] or mountain king [stun]?
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio
@Lucius_Chiaraviglio 5 месяцев назад
I like the analysis of item management.
@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw
@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw 5 месяцев назад
dang must be nice to play with such low ping, would never been able to moonwell during a death knight coil with a wisp on that old dialup multiplayer bnet has.
@andrejbogdanov2816
@andrejbogdanov2816 5 месяцев назад
@grubby actually in chess it makes a lot of sense to touch/ play every piece once (at least in the opening)
@peterkirk8510
@peterkirk8510 4 месяца назад
I thought he was saying like 7 moves in a row per piece, which is the opposite of opening principles
@anthonysantellan9577
@anthonysantellan9577 5 месяцев назад
Damn firelord damage pretty insane tho.
@El_Couch_Potato
@El_Couch_Potato 5 месяцев назад
That death coil parry was 🤌
@ZeroFate643
@ZeroFate643 5 месяцев назад
8:25 I spy a free Tome of Strength
@ardianlimiarto8181
@ardianlimiarto8181 5 месяцев назад
Saw it from this comment lol
@Razgrizes
@Razgrizes 5 месяцев назад
Is it possible to have the old version of Warcraft 3 ( the one you§re playing in the video ) when you purchase the reforged one ? Or is it a mod or something ?
@elrondmcbong6392
@elrondmcbong6392 5 месяцев назад
Reforged allows you to play in SD graphics. You can change graphic style in the menu
@Razgrizes
@Razgrizes 5 месяцев назад
@@elrondmcbong6392 thank you so much for the answer !
@elrondmcbong6392
@elrondmcbong6392 5 месяцев назад
@@Razgrizes anytime :)
@Gyr0s
@Gyr0s 5 месяцев назад
Daily does of Grubb' fulfilled!
@Meagreee
@Meagreee 5 месяцев назад
Love this content, are you going for rank 1 on W3C after you're done with top 5 all at once on bnet? x)
@kl9686
@kl9686 5 месяцев назад
Might not, because it's harder to do it there.
@beridledodopidop4822
@beridledodopidop4822 5 месяцев назад
I really hope he does or at least tries, I play myself and that would be high level nectars of life to observe
@minhnguyen_8732
@minhnguyen_8732 5 месяцев назад
I really like this game but its price is 30$. It is too high to me
@yannismpa3701
@yannismpa3701 5 месяцев назад
Damn. Imagine charging 30 Bucks for a 22 Year old Game. Thats probably more expensive than it cost on release
@minhnguyen_8732
@minhnguyen_8732 5 месяцев назад
@@yannismpa3701 Yes, that’s why I haven’t bought it yet
@Brurarum
@Brurarum 5 месяцев назад
It was like 10 dollars for reign of chaos and 10 for frozen throne​@@yannismpa3701
@helldude13
@helldude13 5 месяцев назад
Just keep your eyes out it goes on sale pretty frequently at 50% off if you are wanting to purchase it
@TheRealArmor
@TheRealArmor 5 месяцев назад
​@@yannismpa3701 It was $60 for reign of chaos. Frozen throne expansion was like $35. Pretty sure when the battle chest came out it was like 70-80 Dollars.
@Tobias-Fünke
@Tobias-Fünke 5 месяцев назад
Grubby VODs!!!
@johnchatwell6020
@johnchatwell6020 5 месяцев назад
@grubby is there any hero you don’t use?
@holans6824
@holans6824 5 месяцев назад
Best Beastmastergame Ive ever seen
@subject1449
@subject1449 5 месяцев назад
Def a great question both their ults suck to an equal degree. DR and panda def the best starters from tavern Funnily enough, one of the guiding principles of chess is that you do in fact touch every piece at least once (so that they actually participate rather than hang out in a corner). It would be like not moving around the map in wc3.
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
DR first is really really good for early Creeping.
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
Beast Master is more suck than FL tbf.
@REplayer001
@REplayer001 5 месяцев назад
can you do the deforestation strat again? It was so funny
@SilverFan21k
@SilverFan21k 5 месяцев назад
Firelord chad
@ViktorLoR_Mainu
@ViktorLoR_Mainu 5 месяцев назад
Is the league yourney over already? Also is it bad that I read that in Tristana's voice?
@YGgamingGY
@YGgamingGY 5 месяцев назад
Nice games
@OnslaughterEx
@OnslaughterEx 5 месяцев назад
Me lembro bastante de jogar esse jogo por horas no PC xD.
@stefanocioni2587
@stefanocioni2587 5 месяцев назад
I never see you scouting. Is it just because you are so good or that you are night elf?
@Zoltanus242
@Zoltanus242 5 месяцев назад
they both missed a str tome? at 8:25
@feitopuns
@feitopuns 5 месяцев назад
will adding magic immunity on summon bear will break bm?
@silverkings2154
@silverkings2154 5 месяцев назад
Thanks grubby I love you
@stefanocioni2587
@stefanocioni2587 5 месяцев назад
Feel like dr is underrated as hell
@danksouls420
@danksouls420 5 месяцев назад
I wanna see DR/naga mass hippo rider just pew pew to the max bonus points for PotM 3rd if the game goes long
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
Potm first or 2nd better because of her aura buff since you will be going Range builds.
@danksouls420
@danksouls420 5 месяцев назад
​@@saimyintmyat9373 you need the skellys for fast creeping and the naga slow usually is worth more then the extra damage from potm. potm 2nd can work but is better 3rd imo... but this is a meme strat anyways
@saimyintmyat9373
@saimyintmyat9373 5 месяцев назад
@@danksouls420 Potm 's aura is not only creeping but also for Late game battles. DR's Skill 2 can summon Skellies. I like Naga 3rd more.
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 5 месяцев назад
Dang that first game was a steamroll
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 5 месяцев назад
Beastmaster starting with bear summon for heavy creeping too slow?
@BlankeeStarcraft
@BlankeeStarcraft 4 месяца назад
The bear is meant to absorb dmg, quillbeasts are higher dps
@Number1139.0
@Number1139.0 5 месяцев назад
Only heroes units can read tomes Does that mean that every non hero unit is illiterate ?
@denisgsv
@denisgsv 4 месяца назад
didnt reforged had better graphics ?
@anthonysantellan9577
@anthonysantellan9577 5 месяцев назад
With elf; dark ranger first is ftw.
@purple9969
@purple9969 5 месяцев назад
Your my hero 😊
@Hardsky5123
@Hardsky5123 5 месяцев назад
Firelord for the win
@damo9961
@damo9961 5 месяцев назад
Firelord is definitely better atm. Scales way better
@spencerharding5328
@spencerharding5328 5 месяцев назад
I prefer tavern first just more creative playing in my opinion
@dorkporkknobslob9918
@dorkporkknobslob9918 2 месяца назад
Not gonna NGL = gonna lie?
@POINTS2
@POINTS2 5 месяцев назад
Interesting what a high-level Fire Lord can do. I see why Grubby keeps the momentum going even after losing units
@zachariastsampasidis8880
@zachariastsampasidis8880 5 месяцев назад
Firelord with extra agility or attack speed is frightening. Especially if he has claws. People underestimate how fast he can start proccing e damage and explosiona
@Smiley-ps1yc
@Smiley-ps1yc 5 месяцев назад
So pushing the move button million times, makes it move faster ? 🤔 Or is he just doing it to look cool ? 🤔
@jeantoor7103
@jeantoor7103 5 месяцев назад
It depends from a lot of factors. Many players spam clicks to hype and prepare themselves for intense micro control that will be required later in the game. When you try to surround enemy unit, or you're the one being surrounded, both players try to predict opponent movements and move erraticaly themselves. If you control a ranged unit and pursue a fleeing enemy, ordering move just after your projectile is shot actually skips remaining attack animation frames. There might be more examples, where spamming a move order might be helpful.
@attention_shopping
@attention_shopping 5 месяцев назад
ggggg
@stefanocioni2587
@stefanocioni2587 5 месяцев назад
Such crap heroes, can never respect anybody that used them tbh
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