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The US Navy's Aegis cruisers are the most lethal warships sailing the seas today. Come aboard the Ticonderoga Class USS Lake Champlain, and explore the secrets of this masterpiece of warship technology. From its ultra-high-tech electronic sensors to its anti-ship missiles, see what makes the Aegis cruiser a threat even from miles away. Meet the crew of the Champlain as they talk about what its like to serve on board a missile cruiser.
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@curtiss744
@curtiss744 11 лет назад
I served on 2 aegis cruisers and you are correct it is outdated there are more advanced equipment in the navy now than when this documentary was made ,I would say this documentary was made in the early 2000's, I can tell by the working uniforms the navy does'nt wear those kind of working uniforms anymore.
@marshalmontez6795
@marshalmontez6795 4 года назад
curtiss744 thank you for your service to our country god bless, our country is free and safe because of your service.much love and aloha.🤙👍✌️
@libfab1
@libfab1 8 лет назад
Served on an Aegis cruiser, CG 59, back in the late 80's and early 90's. Good times.....
@marshalmontez6795
@marshalmontez6795 4 года назад
libfab1 thank you for your service to our country.because of you america is powerful and free.much love and aloha.god bless.
@Arleigh-Kirk
@Arleigh-Kirk 9 лет назад
CAPT Kristensen was my CO when I served aboard this awesome ship 1992-1994. He was the senior officer present at NAVSTA Pier 8 San Diego and would make other ships move when we pulled into port.
@forrestcommander6283
@forrestcommander6283 9 лет назад
It's always good to be a cruiser on a pier full of destroyers...u always get the best parking spot.
@Arleigh-Kirk
@Arleigh-Kirk 9 лет назад
Yes indeed
@g4lt
@g4lt 8 лет назад
+Forrest Commander pier 8 was all cruisers, of which the Champ was proven the best when we got the Battle E in '91. I think the old man found his scotch that day :D
@marshalmontez6795
@marshalmontez6795 4 года назад
Kirk Towner wow man because of you our country is free thank you for your service to our country you are our hero thank you god bless.👍💪🤙✌️😜
@StumpyNH
@StumpyNH 12 лет назад
Was a nice trip down Memory lane. EN2 USS Vincennes CG-49....I do miss her.
@elapoint09
@elapoint09 7 лет назад
I am a Plank Owner on the Aegis Cruiser CG62 USS Chancellorsville. Best class of ship!! ET2...
@bricksmith1178
@bricksmith1178 10 лет назад
Wow, warships can take on any aircraft. They are ready. Watch out for the really big guns!!!
@athenakelly6721
@athenakelly6721 11 лет назад
hope the phil. navy can buy this kind of ship someday to strenghten their navy fleet...
@phucnguyen560
@phucnguyen560 Год назад
thanks for posting this
@TheDrew1348
@TheDrew1348 11 лет назад
What a ship.
@scoodlers
@scoodlers 12 лет назад
you restored some of my faith in humanity today
@aznpride0
@aznpride0 12 лет назад
Agree, I'm glad that this country allow me to become its citizen :) and i'm dame proud of it
@rmorganii
@rmorganii Год назад
Badass..so proud of you boys
@minhtranthong
@minhtranthong 12 лет назад
Good video! I love it
@ph11p3540
@ph11p3540 7 лет назад
Are the Ticonderoga class cruiser the last cruisers to be used in the US? It looks like the Arleigh-Burke and the new Zumwalt destroyers have AEGIS as well.
@welderjedi5145
@welderjedi5145 3 месяца назад
This is the video played in the chow hall of rtc Great Lakes in 1997 Div#443
@user-tb5fq3qx9g
@user-tb5fq3qx9g 3 года назад
WOW, amazing ships
@holyteejful
@holyteejful 10 лет назад
The USA's Ticonderoga Cruiser and the GRF Aircraft Carriers are the most gorgeous and most capable ships anywhere in the world. Lets not forget the Submarine fleet-- AKA Shark Fleet.
@americanbadasskb
@americanbadasskb 9 лет назад
The Ford class aircraft carriers haven't even been commissioned yet. The Nimitz class carriers are current carriers in commission and they are the largest warships in the world. Where is the love for the Arleigh Burke class destroyers though, man? I can't wait to see the new Zumwalt class stealth destoyers in service. Have you seen those things man?
@holyteejful
@holyteejful 9 лет назад
Kenny GRF isnt commissioned yet, but still awesome to see video and pictures of. And the love for those Destroyers are there too of course. I've seen pics of the Zumwalt class they look wicked but I hope they're effective!
@americanbadasskb
@americanbadasskb 9 лет назад
holyteejful The Zumwalt destroyers are unlike anything I've ever seen before. It has newer, better and bigger weapons systems and technology. They're mainly for ground attack/support from what I've read. I've always liked the destroyers and battleships more than anything. My dad likes the aircraft carriers so I hear a lot about them from him. One thing is for certain, all of them are important (well not the battleships anymore but they were at one time) and for different purposes but they all have the same goal.
@holyteejful
@holyteejful 9 лет назад
Kenny right, each type of ship has its own main role in support of the battlefield objective(s)... The US Navy is quite an impressive force alone. It has nearly half of the World's aircraft carriers at 10--- only 8 other countries have the resources to support an aircraft carrier; it has more strategic relevance than a nuclear weapon(that is, if your goal is to not destroy the Earth). Pretty awesome. How old are you?
@americanbadasskb
@americanbadasskb 9 лет назад
holyteejful Yes, the Navy is one of the finest fighting forces there is. They have have some of the best warships there are. I'm 22.
@StumpyNH
@StumpyNH 12 лет назад
@mhia4 Loved looking at the Long Beach! Wish I had a chance to get inside and look around the engineering spaces.
@BetterCallSauS
@BetterCallSauS 13 лет назад
I wish our navy had a few a these!
@BornRandy62
@BornRandy62 12 лет назад
plankowner operations specialist CG 59 USS Princeton
@AmericaNumberOne1
@AmericaNumberOne1 11 лет назад
Ha ha ha, I tell you what, I love watching these videos though, I could watch them all day and night! I guess if I were in that guys shoes I be worried myself and trying all kinds of ways to hide from the facts! There isn't a big "?" on his head for no reason :). Cheers... Take care my friend...
@johnbatchler8551
@johnbatchler8551 4 года назад
I dont mind being on this warship more learning to do on new fire control system
@zanderaw
@zanderaw 12 лет назад
@mhia4 I actually got to! My cousin was on the lake Champlain as an engineering officer at the time.
@SILVERCLOUD141
@SILVERCLOUD141 12 лет назад
Type-45 hands down God Save the Queen.
@OlderG0ds
@OlderG0ds 11 лет назад
Type 45 is outfitted for those weapons but it doesn't carry them. It's like "maybe in the future we will so we'll make room for them"
@mhia4
@mhia4 12 лет назад
@StumpyNH Was on the Long Beach CGN-9 a lifetime ago. Parked right across pier 9 from you back in the day. Went to ASW with one of your shipmates. Fair winds.
@corbini157
@corbini157 12 лет назад
Glad you immigrated and are proud of your new country. You are as American as anyone, bro, probably more so because you don't take your citizenship for granted
@g4lt
@g4lt 8 лет назад
not happy with the OEF reference. the film was taken in 1989.
@MegaTechnomaster
@MegaTechnomaster 11 лет назад
I'm not denying that the Type 45 is equal if not better than a Burke or a Tico in terms of electronics, but the fact is the 45's just don't have the firepower. The 45's carry a mixture of 48 Aster 15 and 30 missiles which cannot attack surface targets, the Burkes have 96 VLS modules which can fire Standard Missiles which are effective against surface targets, and can quad-pack ESSM's, which can also attack ships, as well as Harpoons and Tomahawks. The Ticos have 122 VLS modules and 2 5 inch guns
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel 12 лет назад
@OlderG0ds the ticonderoga can only fire 2 tomahawks at a time the type 45 can fir if nessasery 48
@antimattercrusader
@antimattercrusader 11 лет назад
You're right, but there are also many other reasons for war. Resources are another big one.
@kieranmacdonald83
@kieranmacdonald83 13 лет назад
@mr9396 No it not . Has no Anti ship missile nor land attack - so the Type 45 should be but due to budget problems in the RN have lead to cut back in capability. Provision for but not fitted with; * 2 x Quad Boeing AGM-84 Harpoon launchers (total of 8 harpoon missiles) * 2 x Phalanx CIWS (to be fitted by 2011-2015) * BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missiles (if VLS is upgraded or replaced)
@ozzy1351
@ozzy1351 11 лет назад
That would be impressive since the 45 has NO anti-ship capability except for a 4.5 inch main gun! Ticondaroga has cruise missles, harpoon's and SM-2's with anti-ship capabilities.
@valcan321
@valcan321 13 лет назад
@mr9396 The Type 45 is a anti air cruiser. Doesnt have the land attack or anti surface capability of a tico or a arleigh. That said they are damn good ships.
@AmericaNumberOne1
@AmericaNumberOne1 11 лет назад
I think he did!
@Burnz2much
@Burnz2much 13 лет назад
@OlderG0ds That is thanks to the people who run the countries of the world. No compromise.. never surrender.. yay!
@e0o9kii
@e0o9kii 12 лет назад
@MrR1D3R I am a Filipino who was born in the US and though I lived mostly in the Philippines (and currently living in NZ) I love and respect the Americans. I have family in the US and I greatly admire American culture and people. I've visited the US a few times as well since being born. Many Filipinos also love and admire the US (according to BBC, 72-82% of Filipinos are positive about the US). In New Zealand, most New Zealanders hate the US and the American people and I feel offended by that.
@MegaTechnomaster
@MegaTechnomaster 11 лет назад
yeah bro i would normally back the type 45 but you need to do your research
@padtrom
@padtrom 13 лет назад
DO NOT MESS WITH THE USA
@Sturmbannfuhrer2
@Sturmbannfuhrer2 11 лет назад
As far as I know they are already carrying them. Wouldn't make sense for the Royal Navy to operate their latest ship for only air defence would it?
@mhia4
@mhia4 12 лет назад
@StumpyNH Me too. I couldn't get near 'em.
@OlderG0ds
@OlderG0ds 13 лет назад
@mr9396 You got a point but also the "just because it IS American, doesn't mean its not the best" is true also. We don't have best of everything and Type 45 is better than our Arleigh Burke which is older but I just see people who badmouth anything that is American only because it's American.
@BS3RED
@BS3RED 11 лет назад
The Darling class are not anti surface destroyers. They have no weapons for that rile. They are the best at what they do which is destroy aircraft.
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel 12 лет назад
@OlderG0ds ill think you'll find it does m8
@delta5297
@delta5297 12 лет назад
Who's the narrator? I think I just know of him as the "History Channel military voice guy".
@dmagnusson
@dmagnusson 11 лет назад
you have a great movie .. BUT... you really need to upgrade sonar sensors after what hapend when you leased the Gotland class sub. If North Korea or Iran get a sub like the Gotland class you are in troubble
@nick74178ify
@nick74178ify 11 лет назад
Dude The type 45 carrys the sylver VLS witch is different from the MK-41 U.S. one that carry's the tomahawk. The sylver VLS is not compatible with the tomahawk second is the type 45 has the ability to carry the harpoon but its fitted for but not with. Only British frigates carry harpoon. Lokk up. Active Royal Navy weapon systems
@MrR1D3R
@MrR1D3R 13 лет назад
@keldererik necessity is the mother of invention, war is the father. Technology is driven by the need to become more powerful than our enemies. Many things we take for granted have been generated from the catalyst of war. Take a flight recently? Jet engine technology was invented during world war two.
@chezzylee
@chezzylee 12 лет назад
a very capable ship still, i would imagine though with the likes of the british type 45 destoyer... no doubt US will create something as powerful in the near future.
@BURNANNATOR
@BURNANNATOR 7 лет назад
Now you'r playing with power.
@lunabranwen
@lunabranwen 6 лет назад
Now they have the SM 6. Much better
@johnericsantiago28
@johnericsantiago28 12 лет назад
before warship is big..but now its getting smaler and smaller
@VERGIS92
@VERGIS92 12 лет назад
Great, but even ships can be taken out with modern torpedos , they can be stealth, very hard to detect, and unlike WW2 torpdedos, they explode underneath the vessel, I hope Iran does not have them
@boeunpok2359
@boeunpok2359 10 лет назад
Wow go us the most deadly navy modern warships sophisticated computer system in the world n the most powerfuls usa ever built, not many other country that have this typ of war ship like the usa.off course the us navy alway have the best of the best.
@GratuitusPangolin
@GratuitusPangolin 10 лет назад
Is English your first language?
@jakeM502
@jakeM502 10 лет назад
Yes, the American military truly has a stellar program going on. Nothing comes even close
@boeunpok2359
@boeunpok2359 10 лет назад
Wat do u mean us not even com close yes it is true the us has stellar programe do u think the American not good enought wit there stellar program is it wat u mean bro?
@jakeM502
@jakeM502 10 лет назад
Boeun Pok No man, i was saying that no other military comes close to the American's. As in, America's military is the strongest, by a long shot.
@boeunpok2359
@boeunpok2359 10 лет назад
Ok jake m I do agree with u it sound truly good thax u
@nicolasmaster99
@nicolasmaster99 11 лет назад
0:42 -. Malvinas?
@renegadekav
@renegadekav 14 лет назад
@adrastea99 wtf are those?
@1Deejay7
@1Deejay7 12 лет назад
sigh indeed
@MrManas1995
@MrManas1995 11 лет назад
i think its interesting that this was originally made for an enemy with no religion at all, the soviet union. and now its for the complete opposite.
@statsredner4712
@statsredner4712 5 лет назад
Just a wild thought for body armor on battle ships to help withstand a hit from a rocket or bullets and missiles put some kind of body armor
@OlderG0ds
@OlderG0ds 13 лет назад
@mr9396 Firstly this program was made in like 2007 and Type 45 destroyer just came into commission last year. But secondly, no. Ticonderoga cruiser has loads more firepower than a Type 45.
@sashasol5899
@sashasol5899 9 лет назад
The Aegis system proofed it self absolutely useless against one russian aircraft (SU-24), that carried special jamming device. The incident happened in 12 april 2014. The Us battleship involved was USS Donald Cook (DDG-75).
@adobo777
@adobo777 9 лет назад
Not really, if it was destroyed before it can get up close to jam then it would have posed no problem, but the Russian leadership is nuts courting such an incident and luckily the US Navy was disciplined enough not to start opening fire. Such a dangerous move that has little if any benefits for the Russians, except as a propaganda piece to keep some false sense of parity with the US.
@mahardhikaamarullah7580
@mahardhikaamarullah7580 9 лет назад
Sasha Sol It became USS Donald Duck the sitting duck.. Quack..quack.. quack..quack..
@LombardiPls
@LombardiPls 8 лет назад
Which an American warbird could do the same... Your point?
@ronrowan4828
@ronrowan4828 8 лет назад
+Sasha Sol Peddling bullshit from that ridiculous lying video I see.
@scottgibson6735
@scottgibson6735 7 лет назад
Sasha Sol You might want to do some research before you keep repeating that since it is complete Bullshit,as in didn't happen the Cook remained fully operational and could have shot down that mig any time the captain ordered.Also no crew committed suicide or went AWOL after the supposed "event"
@curtiss744
@curtiss744 11 лет назад
Type 45 destroyer vs against an Aegis cruiser or destroyer not a chance
@VERGIS92
@VERGIS92 12 лет назад
But ships can take on any aircraft
@mjabb02
@mjabb02 11 лет назад
2 words - Kirov Battlecruiser.
@alanfreeman7374
@alanfreeman7374 8 лет назад
Are they decommissioning these ships now? I was on the Ghettysburg..
@projectileenthusiast1784
@projectileenthusiast1784 8 лет назад
The first of the Ticonderoga cruisers to be decommissioned will be the CG52 Bunker Hill in 2019.
@alanfreeman7374
@alanfreeman7374 8 лет назад
Ok thanks
@projectileenthusiast1784
@projectileenthusiast1784 8 лет назад
Those are the old ticonderoga class cruisers. Valley Forge and 4 other cruisers they were equipped with the mark 26 missile launchers. I was talking about the newer Ticonderoga class which are equipped with the mark 41 VLS. The old cruiser with the mark 26 such as valley forge includes the USS Vicennes where she infamously shot down an Iranian commercial flight in the 80s.
@projectileenthusiast1784
@projectileenthusiast1784 8 лет назад
***** Yeah my bad I thought he was talking about the newer ticonderoga's so i didn't mention the ones that were decommissioned already.
@Sturmbannfuhrer2
@Sturmbannfuhrer2 11 лет назад
Yes they do, you do some homework before coming back to me ok
@MegaTechnomaster
@MegaTechnomaster 11 лет назад
I don't think so!
@Burnz2much
@Burnz2much 13 лет назад
Excess of 60 knots more like it..
@ManagementBeatEmirates
@ManagementBeatEmirates 5 лет назад
LKCG57 2008/09 Supply SAN Diego OEF/OIF Combat Veteran. Hooyah To the Lake Champlain
@kieranmacdonald83
@kieranmacdonald83 13 лет назад
@mr9396 All I'm saying is the T45 will never ever be all it should be. But why should it? Best estimates of all warships (T45 and Ticonderoga included) in full on naval battles put them all at only minutes of survivability in a multiple threat environment of Air/Surface/Subsurface. People and governments need to learn the cruisers/destroyers of this world are going the way of the battleship. such a waste of money! More needs to go into unmanned systems the technology is available now!
@OlderG0ds
@OlderG0ds 12 лет назад
@Ps3Reviews40 That's funny since the Type 45 doesn't even carry Tomahawk cruise missiles.
@ParsianTV
@ParsianTV 11 лет назад
Man this stuff is way outdated. Navy has far more advanced stuff. The start with, the new radars are all AESA (frequency hopping phase array radars) with far higher range with capability of shooting missiles with Radar's energy. The new missiles are SM-3 derivatives capable of shooting satellites/ballistic missiles.
@Sturmbannfuhrer2
@Sturmbannfuhrer2 11 лет назад
Really? The Type 45 carries Harpoon and Tomahawk missiles so I don't know what the hell you are yapping about.
@tigersharkzh
@tigersharkzh 8 лет назад
How many planes have these ships actualy shot down? I only know of one and that was a disgrace.
@MikeJ6129
@MikeJ6129 8 лет назад
+Andrew Baumgartner Grow some balls and serve in the Navy to find out !
@abc64pan
@abc64pan 12 лет назад
hmmmm, I thought the most lethal warships were US nuclear subs carrying SLBMs. Oh, well, everyone's entitled to their opinion.
@johnbatchler8551
@johnbatchler8551 5 лет назад
Those deployment r long and hard imagine a sailor has to do back to back back to back. Nobody thought about it when I did that this is what u called trials and tribulation I don't know about the agesis system it's flawed
@brandonking8975
@brandonking8975 5 лет назад
Is this better than the Russian Kirov class??
@xxvavyguy4457
@xxvavyguy4457 3 года назад
Light year better than those rust buckets
@muzzman71
@muzzman71 11 лет назад
As I previously stated, if we were to get involved, then the time was when the conflict started. Too many foreign MB fighters there now. Let them kill eachother til the end of time itself. If they're busy there; then the focus is not here. Lack of leadership caused this fiasco.
@lhx1502
@lhx1502 12 лет назад
Persian Gulf
@nick74178ify
@nick74178ify 11 лет назад
Type 45 does not carry harpoon or tomahawk what are you talking about please do some research on the ship please.
@AmericaNumberOne1
@AmericaNumberOne1 11 лет назад
Meaning: he did and he's still nuts! Theres always going to be these "my ship is better then your ship"drones on legs out there! What they forget is to take in the full picture, all of the experience of fighting a war wrapped into an array of weapons coming from all different angels, from all different platforms at once! Its what makes me laugh when Iran talks with they're video propaganda too!
@YellowSubmarine9628
@YellowSubmarine9628 9 лет назад
How about enemy ship firing to aegis with large WWII shells? Cant Aegis send missile and destroy them?
@kevinwebster7868
@kevinwebster7868 9 лет назад
+Yellow Submarine No it would be nearly impossible to hit a shell with a missile. However the WWII ship would be dead long before it's guns got into range.
@YellowSubmarine9628
@YellowSubmarine9628 9 лет назад
Kevin Webster So you mean, if WWII ship gets into gun range so it can have chance to kill Aegis very easily right?
@johnulmer1622
@johnulmer1622 8 лет назад
+Yellow Submarine No. The Cruiser's anti ship missiles would do the job before the old ship could even take aim.
@g4lt
@g4lt 8 лет назад
pooncan launcher on the aft port corner...
@brianluk2006
@brianluk2006 8 лет назад
+Yellow Submarine ww2 battleship mainbattery has a range of 42 km and a hit ratio of 3 to 6% while tomahawk missile has a range of 500 km and 100% hit ratio, it is impossible for a ww2 shipto win against modern ship even at close range
@jonken20
@jonken20 11 лет назад
out of date UK has more a lot more
@clearingbaffles
@clearingbaffles 8 лет назад
didn't Congress temporarily make Lake Champlain into the 6th great lake?
@braith117
@braith117 11 лет назад
Most wars fought over "religion" could be traced to those causes. The Crusades, the 30 Years War, and especially the recent conflicts in the Middle East can all be traced to either greed or revenge, religion is just their justification.
@aznpride0
@aznpride0 12 лет назад
yeah that's true, but if India don't welcome and help the elephant, then the elephant have the right to live wherever they want :)
@hoyl700
@hoyl700 12 лет назад
i consider you an american my friend
@nakazatoGTR
@nakazatoGTR 12 лет назад
@brandeezy108 so take religious misinterpretations out. i am not atheist, but this is what i notice: christians vs christian sects are observed even.
@ProductionSession
@ProductionSession 9 лет назад
Russia's old fighter SU24 with no weapons stopped this sophisticated complex warship in its tracks all equipment went dead. So imagine what the new Tech and gear in the new Russian inventory will do....
@ronrowan4828
@ronrowan4828 8 лет назад
+ProductionSession That is pure bullshit.
@brianmccoy5060
@brianmccoy5060 6 лет назад
ProductionSession yea that never happened and I'm sure your talking about the uss cook which is a destroyer but utilizes the same ageis system as a cruiser, either way that entire event was bullshit no one tried to get off at the next port or killed themselves from being so terrified of the Russian high tech jamming equipment used to shut down the entire ship forever, mothballed it in one pass!! All of it was Russian p.r. lies!!
@tigerfanau
@tigerfanau 14 лет назад
The USS Leahy out shot the Lake Champlain. They made us hold fire for several seconds after the Aegis ships fired.
@nick74178ify
@nick74178ify 11 лет назад
Your lack of knowledge is funny. A type 45 destroyer carry's no anti ship weapons so tell me how will it beat a U.S. warship if it has no anti ship weapons. The only weapon the type 45 has to attack ships is its 4.5 inch gun that has a range of only 23km. A U.S. warship has anti ship weapons like harpoon and bgm-09. The type 45 also has no land attack weapons and has no anti submarine missiles. It main missile is the aster 30 witch has a range of 120km while the new SM-6 for the U.S. has 240km.
@AnswerFortyTwox
@AnswerFortyTwox 13 лет назад
This is entirely not necessary but its easy for the defense contractors to make ALOT of money. Disgusting really.
@statsredner4712
@statsredner4712 5 лет назад
And or put some new 🚀 on these battle ships more faster more stronger explosion that will punch a hole right through any ship to sink faster if anything's left to sink faster we should be a step or 2 ahead of our enemies at all times we need to give some thought to our people who need some ideas or maybe $$$ to help build what ever we need to help our people build weapons to pertect our home land we should some how come together for this because our number one enemies are coming I do believe this and I don't know or were to go for pertection for my life my familys life's and others to do we want our land burnt down or invated
@Antifaith29
@Antifaith29 11 лет назад
The type 45 is an Anti air ship. Use your brain here ffs.
@TheSuperhoden
@TheSuperhoden 4 года назад
Kirov battle cruiser disagrees
@korona2427
@korona2427 10 лет назад
They say "Arabian Gulf", but that is "Persian Gulf"!!! I want to know, how much arabs paid to change the name of "Persian Gulf". Americans are very venal.
@Baseshocks
@Baseshocks 11 лет назад
Please explain? religion... well Christianity has been around for just over 2000 years, how much war and death has gone on before that. Gangis kahn, Alexander the great, Persian Empire, these are just the tip of the ice burg, what about the internal wars in Japan and China. Religious wars, real religious wars are barley a footnote in the amount of violence in human history.
@nakazatoGTR
@nakazatoGTR 11 лет назад
but then communism was sort of a cult... almost like a religion, with the dictator touted as a god of sorts.
@nakazatoGTR
@nakazatoGTR 12 лет назад
warships a needed tool because somehow religion was successful in turning humans against each other. ever since early times, both sides of the religious table had been pitting each other in bloody battles. sigh.
@OlderG0ds
@OlderG0ds 13 лет назад
@mr9396 Actually you're the stupid one and your navy is no longer the finest. T45 all I hear is "most advanced" its like all Brits are taught to say this. Hey how is it the most advanced? Please explain. And explain how it has more firepower than Ticonderoga and Burke , because it doesn't.
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