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Firesong and Sunspeaker Commander Deck Tech 

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Firesong and Sunspeaker are a not the normal boros commanders - I don't HAVE to attack! But a lot of people have misconceptions about them. The key is to play huge damage wipes, gain a million life, and then figure it out from there.
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@erickvinicius3443
@erickvinicius3443 6 лет назад
"I'm not trying to damp your hype for this commander" proceeds to do exactly that for a good chunk of the first part of the video
@metalsabatico
@metalsabatico 5 лет назад
Okay I was confused at first but now I get it. For everyone else who is also confused about why Firesong and Sunspeaker makes Lightning Helix deal 9 and heal 6, here it is: FS&S's first ability is a static effect not a triggered effect, so it adds the "Lifelink" keyword to every red burn spell you cast. Thus, with FS&S out in the field, Lightning Helix would read: Lifelink Lightning Helix does 3 damage to any target and you gain 3 life. Because Helix is also a white spell, when you cast it FS&S's second ability triggers twice; once for its own effect and another time for the Lifelink keyword it now has (yes, these effects stack as the rules identify Lifelink as something separate from text that dictates you gain life. Same as with Armadillo Cloak and other auras with Lifelink). So, in short, every Red and White burn spell that also states that you gain life works similarly. For example: Warleader's Helix deals 4 and gains you 4, so you would deal 4 from its own effect, then gain 4 for the Lifelink, then deal 3 from FS&S's second ability triggering because of the Lifelink keyword has been added to its rule text, and finally deal another 3 from FS&S's second ability triggering because of the original life gain text in Warleader's Helix. Hope this helps!
@Mattismen
@Mattismen 6 лет назад
Buy-a-box promos with altered art is great, but exlusive cards are just not a good idea. Not everyone can spend the cash for a whole box to get one card, and the people who can also know they can get away with overcharging for it, since supply is relatively low.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
In this situation we have a good price balance. I don't think commanders need to be in packs as long as the availability is there. Commander players should use the secondary market to get their commanders. If you want a Muldrotha then players should shell out the $7 and buy one NOT crack packs until one is pulled. F&S are also sitting at $7. Which feels OK to me. I hope the free market will make F&S cost what they are worth my LGS did not charge any more for this box than ones in the past and I REALLY hope that your LGS isn't trying to gouge you when WOTC gives them a cool promo to drum up hype. I think in this specific situation WOTC hit the supply right on to have a card that's not cheap but also not prohibitively expensive.
@Mattismen
@Mattismen 6 лет назад
My situation might be different to yours, but most cards I build with are from pre-cons or pre-release. I have a couple of decks I've started buying singles for here and there but 7 dollar cards are too pricey for me. This particular card was my most looked forward to from the leaks, and I was really hoping to open it at pre-release. To find out that this was not even a possibility was a real let down.
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule 6 лет назад
@Jumbo Commander I have to agree with mattismen, even if they make those cards exclusively for EDH, the moment they make a commander that is too good prices for that card will shoot up too much. I mean, Firesong is still worth at least 2€ which is still very high for a card that's not even all that great for EDH and would have been a 5 cent bulk rare in the booster. Imagine if that would have been the highly desired Muldrotha...
@leonardoboccaletti1790
@leonardoboccaletti1790 6 лет назад
So, your argument against what Wizard did with FS&SS is to point out how bad it would be if they did it different? That doesn't make any sense. The fact that they chose FS&SS and not Muldrotha just goes to show that maybe they know what they are doing. You should probably wait until they actually do something wrong to criticize. What botters me more in this whole issue is the fact that FS&SS is not a Reserved List card. Nothing stops Wizards from printing it again if it ever get too expensive. So i don't know what the fuss is all about.
@LedPESRule
@LedPESRule 6 лет назад
@Leonardo Baccaletti I mean, you're right, it's not that big a deal and it's not like I'm outraged or anything, and for now it's certainly fine, but when talking about this new business practice as a whole it seems fair to point out how it could easily go wrong. Also, sure they could just reprint it, but given how many cards are already in desperate need of a reprint I don't really want more of them
@ishakmuratovic4804
@ishakmuratovic4804 6 лет назад
I think that a firesong and sunspeaker commander deck seems absolutely AWESOME! honestly I have never played commander, but I am thinking of starting to do so thanks to you and your amazing deckbuilds. I just find it cool that you always have access to a creature of your own choice(the commander). It just opens up so many new possibilities for decks f.ex. making your whole deck based around that one creature, like this deck, to pull off some really cool things which you can not do in a normal magic game. I love it already!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I'm glad we are getting you excited for commander. If you like always having access to something that helps your strategy then I'd also check out Partner commanders ... OMG 2 extra cards in hand!?!?!?! So good. Also consider commanders that cost less mana. This general might frustrate people because if their whole deck is built around having it out, then he dies a few times that's a lot of mana to get going again.
@moonstruckdrophd319
@moonstruckdrophd319 6 лет назад
Thank you, Jumbo! I have been looking how to tackle this card but your strategy seems really stable. Awesome content as always!
@tylerhall8724
@tylerhall8724 6 лет назад
Really enjoy these videos! Commentary is insightful and always makes me want to build more decks.
@Morpheus283
@Morpheus283 6 лет назад
Thanks for making this video. I was working on a deck like this with a goblin fire marshall sub-theme but this helps get more focus on the commander.
@nickolasdenehy824
@nickolasdenehy824 6 лет назад
Pretty new to mtg, but i really enjoy watching these deck techs. A very good way to learn about older cards and just about the commander format in general. Thanks for the great video!
@AffinityForCommander
@AffinityForCommander 6 лет назад
Fantastic deck tech! I love that Boros now has a viable spellslinger commander!
@TheVDub28
@TheVDub28 6 лет назад
Your videos are awesome. They have honestly helped me become a better deck builder by myself. The approach you take in making a deck tech is top notch. Keep it up!
@tonystark-sl2qj
@tonystark-sl2qj 6 лет назад
Always looking forward to the next deck tech jumbo. I had a firesong deck in the works and this helped out a lot, thanks!
@wmj0976ab1
@wmj0976ab1 6 лет назад
I enjoyed the deck tech. I have started to get together cards for my deck. Thank you again.
@teachingstaff2820
@teachingstaff2820 6 лет назад
Best deck-tech I've seen yet. This was awesome!
@letzgoterps
@letzgoterps 6 лет назад
Woohoo, it's here! Been looking for this deck tech. Thank you!
@davidkraus5221
@davidkraus5221 6 лет назад
Nice list and deck tech... thank you for a realistic approach to this general!
@ashschannel5024
@ashschannel5024 6 лет назад
This looks like a really fun looking deck! Great job as always Jumbo!
@kathleenrobinson300
@kathleenrobinson300 6 лет назад
I always love your deck techs, and I'm really glad to see this particular commander. Everyone hates on Boros, but when Firesong and Sunspeaker were spoiled I thought it looked like so much fun to play! Thank you for helping me with some direction for the deck :)
@igotpredicted7839
@igotpredicted7839 6 лет назад
Love the deck tech, very concise and well done! :)
@lucasb.pereira
@lucasb.pereira 6 лет назад
Awesome!, i really want to build this deck now! Thanks Jumbo!
@michaelsanders7376
@michaelsanders7376 6 лет назад
Always enjoy your take on decks! Keep up the amazing work!
@watermarshal
@watermarshal 6 лет назад
I actually just noticed that I haven't missed a build you made in forever. Thanks for these!
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Glad you are liking these techs. I'll keep making them.
@nickcraft5552
@nickcraft5552 6 лет назад
Wow, You got me excited about this deck too. I could not stop thinking about Hour of Devastation because the commander has 6 toughness. Sounds like the perfect play for 5 cmc. Very inspirational video. You got a subscribe from me.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Totally! That's also a great meta choice if you are seeing a lot of indestructible creatures or planeswalkers. Thanks for the sub; happy to have you around.
@fanaruto1
@fanaruto1 6 лет назад
Always nice to see more videos from you.
@steffenpabst3432
@steffenpabst3432 6 лет назад
When spoilered, I was really hyped by F&S. After thinking about it longer however, my hype dropped slowely. Your deck tech has once again ignited my spark of hype for a specific Commander. Thanks for that!
@Jeemo88
@Jeemo88 6 лет назад
Jumbo, you always know how to get me excited about a new unique Commander. I gotta build this now....
@Ghaespar
@Ghaespar 6 лет назад
Nice, strong, and ongoing deck, and great video! Gj DJ!! :)
@XavierGranville
@XavierGranville 6 лет назад
Love this card! Love this deck! I've played a version of it twice and boy is it fun
@BlazingfPheonix
@BlazingfPheonix 6 лет назад
So hyped to put together this kind of deck, I recently fell in love with Brion so boros shenanigans is my thing!
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 6 лет назад
I love how janky this commander is. Hopefully, although being exclusive, is not really that expensive. I should try to make a room for it on my Boros Legion deck, but i doubt he is taking the "commander" spot. I'm still too prone to creature-based decks. If he only did the 3 damage whenever you gained life... But I cannot keep out of my mind "death rayin" people with the reservoir. Also, could an overcharged grapeshot work for the 3 dmg trigger? That would really be amazing.
@UrsaBearwalker
@UrsaBearwalker 6 лет назад
I really like the approach that you took with this
@jordanlamp5050
@jordanlamp5050 6 лет назад
I put a deck similar to this together over the weekend and it rocked so hard. I even got to pull off a double Star of Extinction with my commander and a Samite Elder out. Was awesome.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
And now everyone just holds up single target removal FOREVER.
@AustinRonald
@AustinRonald 6 лет назад
Thanks for another great deck tech!
@kirstymickiewicz3532
@kirstymickiewicz3532 6 лет назад
Super excited to try this out!
@bclar081
@bclar081 6 лет назад
Thanks for all the insights!
@inferniep90
@inferniep90 5 лет назад
i have some question : 1. why not put painter's servant to make all spell white too so that every spell deal +3 dmg ? 2. why not put Isochron Scepter to imprint helix or some bolt to have a renewable(?) font of dmg and heal each turn ? 3. Felidar Sovereign as a win con ? ( i'm not sure of that ) 4. how does fumigate work with the commander ? i mean i deal 3 dmg for each creature or just 3 one time ty for answer me
@kokujinbeeblebob
@kokujinbeeblebob 6 лет назад
This is cool dude. And this is such a fun Boros commander which is so different to other ones.
@fuckgoogle7314
@fuckgoogle7314 6 лет назад
Been waiting for a video on these two.
@robertcotrell9810
@robertcotrell9810 6 лет назад
I'm pretty excited about this card as a commander as well, and I really enjoy your take on it. I'd try that route or I think a wider, smaller spell strategy. That also seems fun, but also viable. Nice video! I enjoy your deck tech styles, and your insights
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Some people mentioned wanting an isochron scepter package for the small spell strategy. I think that sounds really solid.
@Manndar
@Manndar 6 лет назад
I love it that we get a new and different approach to boros colors with Firesong and Sunspeaker.
@wintercat1027
@wintercat1027 6 лет назад
Came here after your command zone visit, I really like how you approach your deck techs and topics
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I'm glad to have you. A lot of people checked me out because of Josh and Jimmy and it makes sense. All three of us agree on a lot. Whenever the other person is talking the other two are just nodding our heads in agreement. I think we might need to find a topic to disagree about so our argument can bring us deeper into commander theory.
@north7738
@north7738 6 лет назад
This is cool, I've been looking for a boros commander, and Firesong and Sunspeaker looks fun.
@PixelBush
@PixelBush 6 лет назад
Absolutely top-quality video! I was considering a F&S deck, and one card I'm surprised you're not going for is Alhammarret's Archive. Double life gain sounds exquisitely silly and double the card draw really helps Boros in grasping at card advantage, especially if you're casting Cathartic Reunion and drawing six cards.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Trust me, the idea of gaining DOUBLE all of the life is enticing but I feel like we gain enough life to not need more support in that area. I feel like we are SUPER weak when it comes to card draw which is why drawing double would be nice but then I'm putting in a card that synergizes with one of the deck's weakest areas. I would much rather have another instance of draw than something that doesn't do what I need until I get that draw spell.
@TheTooRisky
@TheTooRisky 6 лет назад
This was a great deck tech, I am gonna start tinkering with deck ideas.
@wolfrayzor
@wolfrayzor 6 лет назад
Always love the work you put into your videos
@joelfristedt8990
@joelfristedt8990 6 лет назад
I am superexcited to build a deck around this commander, because I am used to creature-heavy decks and this will be a nice, new kind of deck to play
@austinlenth3463
@austinlenth3463 6 лет назад
Great deck tech as always!
@SergeantBrowning
@SergeantBrowning 6 лет назад
As someone who’s been here since the beginning, I’m super happy with how well you’re doing
@masenmartin781
@masenmartin781 6 лет назад
Finally boros isnt required to go sideways in commander! Love the deck, keep doing what you do Jumbo. Your decks are amazing!!
@SeekerOf7ruth
@SeekerOf7ruth 6 лет назад
I was actually heading up to build a deck with F&S! Glad to see a deck tech on them on the front page. :D
@kylepinckney1021
@kylepinckney1021 6 лет назад
Definitely interested in this deck, really hoping to brew it soon! Thanks for the insight!
@frostbite385
@frostbite385 6 лет назад
Im new to commander, but I recently found your channel and I love the content you make. You make deck building to the next level. I hope i could get firesong and sunspeaker.
@kasakon
@kasakon 6 лет назад
I love boros, my first commander was brion, then aurelia, and i really like how different these Boros Bros are. Cant wait to build with these guys
@CDSuperNova
@CDSuperNova 6 лет назад
Super awesome. I am not a fan of burn spells, but I think this changed my mind.
@adrianm6065
@adrianm6065 6 лет назад
I find this commander so intriguing. I want to make a deck off of it. It’s why I’m watching this vid to see what you think about it cuz you have very great insight on different commanders and how to build around them.
@OliverPassemard
@OliverPassemard 6 лет назад
Nice deck tech as always!
@MarchOfHell
@MarchOfHell 6 лет назад
A burn life link seems fun to build around and you've done great!
@gustavobarbosa8831
@gustavobarbosa8831 6 лет назад
Finally! Excited to build this deck!
@brianm5947
@brianm5947 6 лет назад
Nice! Ive been waiting for ideas on the cow twins, they seem so cool just have to get past their boros mana curse.
@travismahoney2764
@travismahoney2764 6 лет назад
I really enjoy your approach to commander deck building
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
My philosophy is to embrace the jank ... but understand what you are doing really well so you can tune your jank to your playgroup.
@sertaki
@sertaki 6 лет назад
Really love the minotaur duo, unleashes a fun new strategy for Boros! :D
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 6 лет назад
I like when videos are on the longer side. Nice ideas, Assemble the legion and boros reckoner need some love !
@jessecunningham2234
@jessecunningham2234 6 лет назад
Great video, love the content...keep the videos coming!!!
@xanderatnip
@xanderatnip 6 лет назад
I have been thinking about this deck, mostly because I have a lot of the cards already and boros has been hard for me to play, because I don't want to do the aggro thing. I think this is the type of deck that I will really enjoy. Thanks for the awesome video, take care.
@jessejudah5556
@jessejudah5556 6 лет назад
I love this tech, and I now want to build Firesong and Sunspeaker, thanks! ^.^
@YanShum
@YanShum 6 лет назад
as always when I hear the "Press Start" music I always think oh it's Jumbo Commander video hahaha, thanks for make the giveaway :D!
@kodiak617
@kodiak617 6 лет назад
Such a cool commander concept!
@jabberwockld4316
@jabberwockld4316 6 лет назад
Nice job, keep it up Jumbo
@SovT20
@SovT20 6 лет назад
Thanks man, you just inspired me to make this deck. A free copy of the commander would be a good way to start that process.
@immawhitetiger
@immawhitetiger 6 лет назад
Thanks for all the advice
@CT-Nate
@CT-Nate 6 лет назад
Love your deck techs and was really hoping you'd do one for this legendary. Really appreciated your suggestions on leaning more towards red damage for lifegain. Hope you could send that Firesong and Sunspeaker my way!
@seanmachlan3282
@seanmachlan3282 6 лет назад
What do you think about Searing Meditation? I feel like it could finally be relevant in this deck.
@jasooon86
@jasooon86 6 лет назад
Enjoyed your videos amigo, looking forward to all the sweet Dominaria commanders :)
@happycamper3611
@happycamper3611 6 лет назад
I always love your deck techs jumbo. I'm a newer subscriber, ever since I heard about you from the command zone I've excitedly waited for your next video. I love your stuff keep on keeping on. Side note, have you thought about doing a jodah deck tech?
@joeymurillo4203
@joeymurillo4203 6 лет назад
Thanks you so much for your content. I am also excited to get this guy and brew something. My meta is more competitive. I like just fun decks. This will definitely be fun for me
@InsideofApple
@InsideofApple 6 лет назад
Awesome deck tech!!
@ryanbonig1087
@ryanbonig1087 6 лет назад
Deck looks sweet, great job.
@perks734
@perks734 6 лет назад
Hey Jumbo. Amazing content as always! Keep it up.
@marshalokonek6715
@marshalokonek6715 6 лет назад
Love your stuff! Commander is my personal favorite format of Magic.
@joaozitogameplays
@joaozitogameplays 6 лет назад
I was about to bitch about your special theme for a boros "different" commander would be tokens, but your video format and line of thinking is so great that I wanted to build a deck based around the card Repercussion and damage sweepers for a while now. Thanks my dude, you're the best.
@matthewkoehler6079
@matthewkoehler6079 6 лет назад
Really helpful, thank you.
@commander_in_general
@commander_in_general 6 лет назад
Great job Your jhoira deck tech inspired me to make a budget version, and man is it fun lol I'll probs make a deck tech for it when it's more refined
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Glad you liked it and also kudos on making it budget. That can be really hard to achieve.
@exzir34
@exzir34 6 лет назад
I really like the idea of an earthquake finisher, would fork work well with that? Or more so with star of extinction?
@ottobot1234
@ottobot1234 6 лет назад
Great video as always
@oleksiimozghovyi4789
@oleksiimozghovyi4789 5 лет назад
Oh my god! That's crazy awesome deck!
@Shogun996
@Shogun996 6 лет назад
Thanks for this cool deck tech! I've been somewhat interested in this or with Neheb the Eternal, I think I'd like to go with Firesong and Sunspeaker with Neheb in the 99
@spensergreenwood8530
@spensergreenwood8530 6 лет назад
Wondering if firesong and sunspeaker could be used in a Mardu lifegain and drain strategy utilizing the sanguine bond exquisite blood combo...not sure if legal but my current meta would be ok, maybe y'alls will too
@KuninariJun
@KuninariJun 6 лет назад
Wow! I want a 🔥🎶🐮 and ☀🔊🐮, please!!! 🙏🙏🙏
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
Why is this not the top comment?!?!?!
@motorologist
@motorologist 6 лет назад
Edson Kuninari Now that's how emojis are actually supposed to be used, not just randomly placed everywhere.
@oom-3262
@oom-3262 6 лет назад
kudos to you sir!
@maceolindsay3394
@maceolindsay3394 6 лет назад
bravo!
@DavSnow
@DavSnow 6 лет назад
Firesong and Sunspeaker is such a wonky, fun boros commander. It's nice to have a non-beat face boros commander / brawl general. It's fun to build, albeit a bit limiting. Thanks for an amazing deck tech!
@alexhanson3648
@alexhanson3648 6 лет назад
Love your videos! Please do more budget builds, your Ruric thar build was great!!
@dirtpickingusa8786
@dirtpickingusa8786 6 лет назад
Great video, I've been working on my own build of this as well, concentrating on the stuffy doll type creatures, and doubling spells affects. I played a game with pyromancer goggles, primal amulet flipped, and I cast lightning Helix 3X, then I activated the ability of Mirror Pool (which you should include in your build) for a 4th casting of the spell, all with Firesong out. I can't remember if I was able to cast Increasing Vengeance or reverberate on it as well. Another card you should consider adding to your build is Wild Ricochet...My Meta plays a lot of white exile, so it's nice to have handy to either double one of my bombs or re-direct a Path to Exile or Sword to Plowshares.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I should totally include mirror pool. I have been a champion of that card and finally, I get to point out how good it is and I miss the opportunity .... shame on me.
@CEOHERESY
@CEOHERESY 6 лет назад
Awesome video glad to see someone trying to rock Boris! Absolutely love my Anya, Merciless Angel politics deck :)
@joelbassett434
@joelbassett434 6 лет назад
Boros has always been my favorite guild, but I can't get over that Boros Curse. What is a solid card draw and ramp package that I could put into any Boros EDH deck I might brew?
@briancarson5809
@briancarson5809 6 лет назад
Out of curiosity....what would you think of adding charmbreaker devil to the deck? Instant or sorcery at random from your graveyard(albeit random) seems nice, but I'm unsure about the 6 cmc
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I have always had the devils on my radar ... they seem to be on other people's radar too because they get dead REALLY quickly. I shouldn't discount them though because that IS card advantage and something that red really needs.
@santiagoferreiro351
@santiagoferreiro351 6 лет назад
Love the video! Ive been waiting this deck tech for a while... What are your toughts on playing all the "wildfire" effects?
@yaung2723
@yaung2723 6 лет назад
Looks interesting, might consider it!
@codymcconnell5163
@codymcconnell5163 6 лет назад
When I first saw this I struggled to see how this card could be a commander. I never thought of this cards potential till watching this. Very interesting.
@motorologist
@motorologist 6 лет назад
Would you play Anger of the Gods in a monored deck? I'm playing a comboish Kiki-Jiki deck and I'm debating whether I should play Anger of the Gods or Earthquake as a fifth wrath, I don't want to buy Rolling Earthquake and wait two weeks for delivery. The four other wraths are Starstorm, Chain Reaction, Blasphemous Act, and Sulfurous Blast. If this is confusing because I can't explain anything, I just want your opinion on if Anger of the Gods is playable and better than Earthquake.
@JumboCommander
@JumboCommander 6 лет назад
I would split the difference and play Sweltering Suns. These low-cost wipes can be crucial if you are being run over but a lot of the time in the late game you would love to have a redraw at any cost. Totally playable if you see the board getting pretty filled and under pressure in the first 4 turns of the game.
@motorologist
@motorologist 6 лет назад
Jumbo Commander Right, I forgot about Sweltering Suns! Thanks.
@PoseidonsRage21
@PoseidonsRage21 6 лет назад
I saw this guy (just was looking at creatures) and wondered why would someone would play him. Granted I play mostly creature heavy decks. Definitely would be interesting to see what I come up with on a spell slinger deck. Thanks for the video!
@opendo2
@opendo2 6 лет назад
I feel like this commander is going to be really interesting to build around for years to come
@venomouzelite4380
@venomouzelite4380 6 лет назад
Love this deck man. Gotta build it sometime
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