@@amethystflower8799It is not the same thing. Male circumcision avoids certain diseases and is not that painful when done on kids or under anesthesia.
@user-kl4uh4oz3rIs it not? I thought this practice was to remove sexual pleasure? They deemed it wrong? You’re saying it’s just for reduction of disease? Is this proven?
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
It was the most uncomfortable and disturbing video I ever saw. I didn't know that something like this exists. It would have taken them a ton of courage to come in front of camera and speak about this unforgettable incident.
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.
I was 15 when I saw a documentary on female circumcision, 30 years later it still torments me when I think about it. I have 3 daughter and would never think of inflicting something like this upon them. How could these older women ( Grandmothers mothers aunts etc) do this to another female child . Most likely having been through it themselves . God bless these brave women and little girls who go throught horrible act in the name of tradition🙏🙏🙏
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.
@@rihaballarakhia587 read above comment properly nd then drag your shia nd all stuff in between. This comment is about the one who follows it, nd seriously i am not interested to know which sect follows it or which does not. I am just blessed knowing that where I am born their it is not followed. Afterall none can deny truth, somewhere it is followed and the practise is not acceptable.Which sect follows which not that's none's business, informing which sect following isn't the goal of this video to stop such inhuman act is. coz who follow such inhuman act are humans surely. So that's the matter of concern here. With all respect bro/Sis. Hope u understand what the comment meant.#Peace💯
If by saying "those who follow THIS" you mean Muslims in general than I want to clarify to you that this practice is not taught in Islam. It's something that that sect has adopted on it's own. I live in Pakistan and never once in my life i have come across this or heard about it from anyone. Sunni and Shia are two main sects in Muslims with some sub-sects. Sunnis don't do this AT ALL in all sects and i haven't heard of it from any shia friend too. Maybe this sub sect of shia exists only in India or idk. Long story short,this act is not something that's preached in religion and it's something that most Muslims like 99% don't do it.
The youngest woman is dealing with this in a bolder way than the rest. I guess we really are headed towards a better future regardless of the “aaj kal ke bache.....” nonsense by previous generations.
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.
The fact that boomers talk about this generation consisting of spoilt brat are also the one who unleashed their abusive powers on them, so yeah the irony is massive here
Elders who do this to children know that it is cruel and so wrong, so they trick their children into going to ‚friends‘ or going on holidays. Shame, shame on those adults who scar and mutilate these innocent little girls.
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.
@@DipayanPyne94 This female Circumcisions or Genital mutilation are also found in pre Islamic Egyptian Female Mummies so this is East African Nubian culture which influenced into shafi madhab school and Egyptian Fatimid Shia islamili schools by scholars from that culture and even it's also found among Ethiopian orthodox Christians and Jews communities from east Africa
@@DipayanPyne94 that's sick. But these are not islamic practices but i guess they've adopted some culture. Tbh the sect they mentioned, haven't even heard of it.
Yeah...I know the feeling. When my khatna happened, I cried for a long time, had no clue what happened to me and idk man, I thought I was gonna grow a penis, I was a child! I was in pain for like 3 days and kept asking my mother what exactly happened to me and my maa just said, nothing special, bas tera keeda nikalwaya hai, dont worry. The worst part is, I remember the pain still and when i actually confronted my mother 2-3 years ago about this, it sucked that she herself was very uneducated about this and didnt know the implications of this practice. It just sucks man...and I feel sad for my mother for this...if she were educated about this, she wouldnt have let it happen to me
Thanks to these brave ladies who fearlessly speak about the violence happened with them in India. People should open up all the disregardful activities.
@@miloddvoranak8900 For boys its recommended, if you'll research on it, you'll see its actually beneficial for their health, even many people from the west do it
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
Please don't do it I am telling you , love yourself, you don't need to do something like this please, I am requesting you don't even search @@SU-qv4ln
I can't imagine the negative psychological effects little girls must experience after such a brutal practice, first is the betrayal from a "trusted" family member and the other is being violated and feeling so powerless.
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
Definately i am blessed to be born in a community where these kinds of heinous hellish acts are never tolerated. This act should be discussed more and bring into limelight so that eventually it stops and rest of the girls are spared! Even by listening i can feel the trauma which they went through
@@MasjidNoorAlaNoor HEY respect all religions please. You can't tell someone to convert to another religion or that theres no worthy god except your god. That's disrespectful and disgusting. You don't like some religion, you love yours, fine. But don't you dare try to belittle and insult other religions. It's pathetic, grow up.
People still care more about customs and follow it blindly. Wanting to literally carry on toxic cultures as well and literally caring more about society and bs. Not being able to live life like everyone wants to and caring about other bs is like norm. So idk what to do anymore. People being uneducated and still having an opinion about stuff.
By being pressured by elders ( grandmothers, aunts, etc). They don't even let the head of the family know about it and it's done in secret. It's shameful
Their fathers are all deformed too with knifes :( Natural German/ Mexican dads dont do this to their women. Turkish men in Europe still do this :( (to boys)
And the men who used to go out for trading in different countries had sensual acts with women and prostitutes there, and 'The MEN made no artificial religion or social construct called Male Chastity, to 'Remain celibate' amd faithful to wife amd only shower his body for her service, Most barbaric practises are no 'Samskar', but cruel torturous harm done on people out of sensual jeolusy , just to keep a 'Sexual mate' trapped as baby making machine forever, tey tried to attack each of her normal body organs with different non-sexual functions even, to damage her body so that she is disabled , hamdicapped , weaker amd depends on him for protection and he forever enslaves her to be exploited as child giving machine reserved
Any circumcision whether male or female should be done only after gaining adulthood and ability to give concent. No one child should be modified irreversibly.
@@khanmusiraza686 only if he / she doesn’t die of vaccine preventable diseases. Use some logic you dumb head. Comparing circumcision to vaccination shows your reasoning.
@@shaliniverma7020 i am talking with the contest of boys. Circumcision at early age for boys have many health benefits. Google it. Its just how vaccinations prevents from many ilness even circumcision do.
@Spell Check there is a sound evidence and taught in science books for male circumcision which prevents penile cancer a uti in male. For female it's not done
I come from Muslim family from India but I have never heard of it my whole life, am 25year old now and not in my wildest dream I can imagine that....God punishes them who do these kinds of things this is really really bad and unacceptable
Female circumcision has been a tribal custom in some parts of Africa and as happens in many muslim societies the tribal traditions are often kept alive by presenting as "Islamic" to common people. This custom as the ladies in the video say must had come from North African Ismaili missionaries who came to India.
@@standagainstislamicterrorism This is what your religious taught you not mine. I'm Muslim Alhamdulilah I proud to born as Muslim because we taught not to defame othrs religious like your's do.
@@shafeentaj1683 we don't have to defame your religion...it's defamed by the act of terror and brutality you have are doing on innocent non muslims all over the world including children, see the latest what happening in Afghanistan under the name of sharia..no one can defame your religion it is already getting defamed by your own community peoples act...may god give u all some common sense
I'm a 25 yrs old Muslim and before this video i have Never heard of this horrible and despicable thing ever in my life. I could see the pain in their eyes as the remembered that day. This practice not only should be stopped but the people involved should be punished harshly.
@@RealShreyas Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur Shiv Narayan Gopal Singh Kalsanghra Shyam Bhawarlal Sahu Prasad Shrikant Purohit etc aren't Muslim so to answer your question no all terrorists aren't Muslim.
@@hayasuleman6963 I not even found a single article saying that these are terrorist Btw, there is even a terrorist organization named Islamic State You people tried to prove that Hindus are terrorist Remember Mumbai's Taj Hotel terrorist attack, a terrorist was sent who wore a kalawaa (a orange, red and yellow holy thread) on his wrist to show that he is Hindu, thanks to Mumbai Police who caught him and found out that he was a Muslim And after watching the above video of female circumcision, I started to hate Islam even more!
This breaks my heart. My heart hurts. I have a 6 and 8 year old. I cannot imagine consenting this to be done to them. I couldn’t even let my boy (who turned 15 today actually) be circumcised. It doesn’t feel right. Who are we to decide that the way we are created is wrong? Our bodies are perfect the way we are born. I feel sick. I can’t believe in 2022 this is still happening 😭 I hope that more and more children/teens/adult women speak up against this practice and protect their precious babies.
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (PUBH) said to her: Do not cut severely😔 as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. - Abu Dawud 43:499 (Sahih) Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honor for women😔😢. - Hanbal 5:75 (Sahih/Disputed)
@@Phoneix00 these names like polygamy came less then 100 years ago and every religion permits it. If you are an atheist and have different beliefs thats another matter. If you are hindu then you should know that how many wives your lord kirshna had. And halala is the biggest misconception among people like you. What do you think it is? Its says that a couple can't marry each other after a divorce until the women marry another man. And its not like she got married for one day and then left him. And the second marriage of the women must not be for purpose of halala. It must a real marriage and after that of things natural don't work out and they goy divorced or she get widowed then she can marry her first husband. Now tell me whats wrong with it..?
@@bilalkhattak6586 Bro..u just wasted ur time trying to explain all this ..bcause these kinds of ppl dnt have anything to do with the truth they just want to accuse nd mock others (especially Muslims)... they dnt want to knw wht the truth is
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
Do you notice one thing? Any time the incident of circumcision happened, there was an old grandmother without her it was impossible.😂😂😂 I genuinely renounced this very tradition. Hail to those who became victims ❤️ Indeed, women are the storehouse of tolerance, modesty and morality.
I am from Muslim home in our Fiji Islands we never heard of such things and I am in my late seventies we hear this very sad and evil deeds if they have such a faith in their prophets Mohammed did he commanded them to perform evil act and female organs are given by Almighty God and they don’t have fear of their creator
@@vaibhavkumarsingh1409 reference? Even Male Circumcision is Didnt Started By Prophet Muhammad PBUH. Its Started By Prophet Ibrahim AS.Thousands of Year Before. Thats Why Jews and Christian Males Do it tooo . But there are No such Things Like Female Circumcision.Jews and Christian do it Because They Have Faith in Ibrahim AS.
As I understand prophet was very clear and stopped children sacrificed he gave women respect.This practices happened in African Country not all the Muslims Nation practices this .All my families are Muslims and we never witnessed all this.Muslim mother and fathers are very caring for their daughters .It is sad how people like to belittle Muslims
Ladies, please be brave like in this video. I've noticed that you guys have guts to show your face and tell your experiences to this society. Your next generation Children especially girls may be very proud of you and may try to learn to be as brave as you are.
It's done in this borah stupid community It's no where mentioned in quran Then why is she doing this ..like her family No Muslim does..none of the country like Saudi dubai turkey Morocco Malaysia Indonesia Qatar etcetc Then why this stupidity
There is a book called seven by farzana doctor . Anyone who is interested on how this practise is deeply rooted jn the bohra community should give it a read
@@govindtakekar9587 I'm not supporting it ..In fact I'm very much against it . I'm just stating that there is a book of you want to know more about thr horrors
The non-bohra girls who marry into the community go through the same torture. Islam does not permit female circumcision. The few brave ones question the practise, rest are living in fear. May Allah sw make it easy for the victims and awaken the people committing such evil. Ameen
Alhamdulillah this is not practised in Sunni muslims... I haven't even heard about it untill i saw some videos on youtube...the genltemen who r laughing in this comment section shud know that it is not a Islamic practice but a traditional nd regional practice nd it is also mentioned that it is practiced by the Bohra sect only
@@hinaarshad3995 gentleman this practice across the globe please search and google it 😂😂😂 there are so many cases in India Indonesia bangladesh pakistan ...
The video itself is traumatizing. I can't even imagine what they all went through. Can't believe such a thing exists in this world. Such a non-humanitarian act! I just wish and hope that people be more sensitive, caring, loving & kind with each other and such violent and traumatic acts would not be performed.
This is ridiculous 😡 i used thought bohars are educated and progressive. This is a hineous act. What the hell. Words can't describe my anger. Hat's off these women who came out openly. I hope this would make some awareness in that community.
Every religion has something they are not proud of. While I agree the act is heinous, I've realised that many people are uneducated about this particular to thing. I dont blame my mother for my khatna, because she followed it as a ritual without being aware of what she did was wrong. It's the way she was conditioned to believe. Myself on the other hand, who is educated about this, wouldnt let the samething happen to my daughter, however anyone asks me to do it....education is important...condemning a religion because of a bad practice is not right...
@@zahabiyadalal9414 Are you a Muslim? Because I'd like to know more about this. I've considered to be virtually non-existent in the subcontinent and only heard about these un-Islamic practices in North Africa
@@WaddiaS yeah, I'm a muslim. And this is a practice that happens is many religions, not just islam. But yes, in India, dawoodi Bohra is the only known community to practice this
This is not just done by Bohras. Globally it is a huge issue. African countries, Malaysia, Indonesia, Kurdistan many other countries FGM is very common. Even cases are reported from Britain, USA, Australia, New Zealand. In India people are not even aware of it.
After reading all the hateful comments all I can say is I'm thankful to be born in a post independence liberal Hindu family. Even Hindus had evil customs before independence but the religion was reformed and I can only be thankful for it.
I could not watch the whole video, it was so upsetting and I watch a lot of murder mysteries. The betrayal and cruelty unleashed on little girls by their trusted elders is devastating to just watch. Thank you for sharing. I pray that it is stopped.
Education is so important...there's a reason far right religious communities are always against knowledge being spread. I'm so sorry to all the small children who are abused like this, in the name of ignorance.
Alhumdullilah though my parents were not highly educated but were sensitive enough to understand these kinda of horrific realities of life and now where in quran its mentiotioned to circumcise a women or a girl...i have been bought up in a secure background where my mother was my guardian an angel....Alhumdullilah God bless my mom who took care of me ...now m 34 and have 4 kids ,2 daughters and 2 son ...and not in my wildest dreams can i imagine giving such trauma to my girls...Astaghfirullah....may Allah keep safe all girls and boys from evilish people around them...but this video gave me chills down through my spine....
@@sameeransari-ho6xw yeah but it's still in practice in Muslim communities of India, Pakistan and majorly in Africa... I mean Who the fuck wrote those things in koran....
There is lots of way to overcome your sexual feelings. Just to feel someone that this lady don't have a sexual feeling so she is faithful. My god what kind of people they are.
@@cutedemon43 this came from African missionaries. Don’t you understand English? It was literally mentioned there. It’s an African cultural practice which goes back to the times of the Egyptian pharaohs, you nut job.
I don't understand why these people do it. I don't think female circumcision is in the Qur'an or even in the Sunnah..correct me if I am wrong, I ain't no Islamic scholar.
A lot of comments are along the lines of "how can a mother or grandmother want to inflict this to their own child"... This is the terrifying power of trauma repetition... Those who undergo a traumatic experience and don't have the chance to psychologically process it will repeat it and pass it down to next generations... The mothers and grabdmothers themselves had gone through that horror, underwent a gruesome violation with no explanation whatsoever, were lifelong deprived of an important and natural part of their physical and emotional experience, and never got to see their own pain seen and legitimated... They themselves were not actually aware of what was done to them. This is the power of trauma repetition, until it's surrounded by silence. Once someone starts speaking up, testifying it, recognizing it, calling it its names, that chain is broken. This is what us therapists help people doing every day all over the world with all sorts of traumatic experiences. If you are in any form of pain that leaves you confused and ashamed, please remind that there is someone who is there to listen, to witness, to stand by you.
Both are wrong, but male circumsions medical and sexual advantages, so it is not seen as a taboo. But it should only be done by men if it's their choice
@jec_ecart in male circumsions, a number of adult males do it due to nephrological causes and sexual causes , in case of hyper drive numbing is done by this method
There is no such act of circumcision in Islam itself. Being a Muslim, I am 100% sure, if anybody is doing so, that's their community rituals and they are continuing this after reverting to Islam. So, Islam does not promote such acts.
@@71espn boys have but girls don't have. Circumcision might have various health benefits, including: Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin. Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later. Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential. Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis. Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. Also, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men. Even in Bible and to..prophets born as circumcised. In Islam. we have to offer namaz that's why it is done.
@@samirayasmin8406 oh so god made a mistake which he couldn’t undo later lol don’t throw in old and mullah studies. It’s Been proven now that circumcision has lot of disadvantage more than advantage. Cleaning a penis is as easy as cleaning a vagina which has folds in it and listen to yourself believing in fairy tales like judgement day haha Atleast know the person before u blindly follow him.
Implications can include complications during childbirth, anaemia, non-draining of menstrual blood, the formation of cysts and abscesses, keloid scar formation, damage to the urethra resulting in urinary incontinence, dyspareunia (painful sexual intercourse), sexual dysfunction, hypersensitivity of the genital area, infections and increased risk of HIV. Not to forget, mental health issues like long-term depression, anxiety and serious trust issues due to undergoing horrific pain in early childhood by trusted elders.
Wenn es richtig und hygienisch gemacht wird (z.B. im Spital von Ärzten), keine. Das Problem ist aber, dass viele Beschneidungen nicht von Ärzten und unter unhygienischen Bedingungen durchgeführt werden. Dabei erhalten die Mädchen keine Spritze. Während der Beschneidung müssen sie von mindestens zwei Personen festgehalten werden, weil sie sich aufgrund der extremen Schmerzen bewegen, was dann dazu führen kann, dass die Beschneiderin daneben schmeidet, was dann Komplikationen verursacht.
Its lack of education about Islam that too in only your country India . They do such practice and theres so such concept of female circumcision in Islam .
I am Muslim too and till this age of 31 I was unaware from this... I am not one of them who follow this ritual but ... its just horrible and painful at the same time I can't even imagine their mental trauma
@@Aashy_Zis it's not about a specific community... Every community has its own pros and cons itself... But the sad part is people try to dig out others bad parts so that they can't see their own
@@jaydameharkayamkhani3978 every community has some pros and cons that's true and i agree with you but muslim still follow those old centuries inhumane practices for instance in Hinduism long-ago people practice of sati ( widow burning) but see now nobody follow that custom but that's not the case with islam btw, im agnostic so you can point out religion bad practices I'll not be offended but based on facts
@@Aashy_Z appreciate your healthy response, and agreed with your point regarding 'Sati pratha' and I truly believe that education and general awareness is one of the reason behind it.. Unfortunately many of us (Muslims) just follow the orthodox thought process and according to me its just because lack of education and positive environment... I just can give you example of my family that we really don't follow these kind of so called rituals but there are many insane out there who will say Say ki Allah ki raah par chalein... But Quran mein kahin esa kuch aapko milega nhi... Just like other holy books like Geeta, QURAN PAAK insan ko sahi raah dikhata hai unhey takleef toh kbhi nahi deta '' So its really sad for me to see such things
Even at such a ripe age, you feel that sorrow and pain and shock still etched in the eyes of that wonderful grandma lady, it truly appalling!!! May be now the community should start having discussion about how to rid of this evil practice!!!
No child should have surgery on their genitals unless there is a medical need. I’d like to thank these brave women for telling their story. I’m so sorry that you had sexual violence commited against you.
It's painful, just listening to it is so painful, just imagine the girls who go through it. Have read such one novel named as DARDJA written by Jaishree Roy. It gives if not the exact picture but very close to the truth of the pain, the trauma faced by the women who undergo all this process. We all need to grow up..and the family members of d child should take a step ahead to save our daughters, sisters and mothers..
When i was in class 7 my muslim friend told me about this and i didn't believe her i thought she was lying but 6 years later now that i found the truth it's so bizarre and terrifying i can't explain it i wish i could comfort my friend
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (PUBH) said to her: Do not cut severely😔 as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband. - Abu Dawud 43:499 (Sahih) Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honor for women😔😢. - Hanbal 5:75 (Sahih/Disputed)
This practice is painful on many levels. The fact that they had to go through something like this in a young age is horrifying. But the fact that their parents and grand parents were the accomplise is haunting! And the fact that lack of education, awareness, the social taboo led to this unfathomable cruelty points fingers to Indian soceity in general and our legislatures and judiciary in particular.
I can not imagine the pain these girls must had felt. It’s even more painful to see one woman inflicting the same kind of pain she went through to another woman. I hope we are living in a better place now! 🤞
I have a Malaysian doctor colleague who sent his 1 year old daughter for circumcision to a an elder from his community. Told me I should send my kids for circumcision too. Never heard from him since.
Hope people know that this is not a Shia Ithanashari sect but BOHRA's are an independent sect (72 sects of Muslims) with their own rituals, so please be mindful to not associate other Muslims (eg.Khoja/Sayed Shias) with this barbaric and messed up act. We Shia's condemn it, deeply and will fight for these women's rights.