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Rolling Stone Magazine named this album the “third worst of the year” when it came out. Then about 5 years later it was named the 16th best album of all time. Ha! It’s definitely my favorite Weezer album.
If we got a nickel every time something fails and then years later gets labeled a classic, we would be doing pretty dang good. Chipoltle's on me brahs🤠
"I asked you to go to the Green Day concert, you said you'd never heard of them. How cool is that? So I went to your room, and read your diaryyyyyy".......look of complete confusion. Brilliant.
"Tired of Sex," "Across the Sea," and "Butterfly" are my favorites from this record. Little note to give a hint as to Rivers' mindset at the time of this album. The first line of the entire LP is "I'm tired," and the last line is "I'm sorry."
Fun Fact: Butterfly almost didn't make it to Pinkerton. The song was recorded at 4 am on the last day of the session after Rivers Cuomo talked about it for weeks. The album closer was initially meant to be Longtime Sunshine.
Not sure that tracks, really. The original cut of Longtime Sunshine was reworked with slightly different lyrics and an added a capella style outro, which feature lyrics from songs on Pinkerton, but also the scrapped Songs from the Blackhole. It was never made originally for Pinkerton, and was only tweaked for Songs from the Blackhole, meaning I doubt it was ever planned for Pinkerton. Tragic Girl being the original intended closer for the album makes more sense, but even then I'm not 100% sure on that either.
I really love this review. The ear for song craft gives something more than the usual “this is a banger - so fire!” of normal reviews, which is fine btw. But talking about modulating into the solo really made me think more about the choices in the songs and I really appreciate it. Great job.
The album is also based on Rivers Cuomo's (lead guitar) life during his time in Harvard University which he stated as a dark time in his like hence the darker sound and lyrics on this record.
This album was supposed to be an album called songs from a black hole, which was scrapped but a lot of fans remade the album, its pretty much the Brian Wilson's smile for indie music
@Mytchell Nolan nope, two different albums you can find songs from a black hole on RU-vid a lot of cool RU-vidrs have released there own interpretations of it
Once I read that Pinkerton was loosely based on Puccini's opera Madame Butterfly, everything clicked for me, and a once misunderstood album became one of my favorites!
The song Butterfly is based on an opera called Madame Butterfly, which is basically a story about an army dude named Pinkerton who hooks up with this girl named Butterfly in Japan and leaves. The girl ends up having a child and Pinkerton finds a wife back in America, and when he finally returns to Madame Butterfly with his wife, she is so heart brokwn that she kills herself. Please keep in mind I have never watched it I just know the plot.
Really insightful! The B-sides on this album are excellent, they sound more like the Blue Album. Songs like "you gave your love to me Softly" and "I just threw out the love of my dreams".
Awesome reaction, I was looking forward to you experiencing the solos and feedback on this record. Some background info that might explain some of the strange songwriting choices on the record: Rivers had become very interested in the opera Madame Butterfly by Giacomo Puccini at the time of writing this record. Pinkerton is the name of one of the principal characters in this opera. I believe many of the crazy modulating solos, instrumental breaks, and harmonizing feedbacks are all modeled to mimick operatic passages as well.
Great stuff, Tony. I loved this. I really enjoy how you mention music-theory things. The key-changes and modulations on Pinkerton are one of the very best things about the record and is a treat for people with musical knowledge. And that interesting triplet vocal in “What could you possibly see in (little old 3 chord me)” in Falling For You is something that never struck me. milk.
Awesome video! I've been waiting for this one. Another album/band you should check out is Ozma's debut record Rock and Roll Part 3. They're inspired by Weezer and Rivers himself has said that Rock and Roll Part 3 is in his two albums every Weezer fan should listen to. Ozma has even opened for Weezer multiple times.
Weezer kinda left this sound behind after Pinkerton. They've made some pretty good stuff since, but not like this. If you want something with the same sort of sound, I'd recommend Ozma - Rock And Roll Part 3
@@daed1819 so Pinkerton bombed so badly rivers hated himself and hated Pinkerton, so he tried to remove emotion from his songs, maladroit was an attempt reconnect with the original fans and it was more emotional and influenced. Makes sense that ewbaite feels the same bc it was another attempt to connect with the original fans
Man you heard this and good news there's a deluxe version of this album with all the b sides that are all killer, also rivers Cuomo alone 1 and alone 2 are both amazing
Love this video man. I personally think the Blue Album is a little bit better than Pinkerton as well, however I can really see why there’s a crowd of people that find it better than the Blue Album. If you liked both of these albums a lot, then I think you’d honestly like the White Album too from 2016. I feel like it’s a hybrid of Blue and Pinkerton. It has the fuzzy guitar sound and goofy charm of Blue, but also more complex guitar arrangements like Pinkerton. It’s also a concept album.
@Jacques Gachassin and I think Ok Human is just as good if not better than both EWBAITE and White but then again I love all 3. The Futurescope Trilogy singlehandedly made the album top 5 for me so I'll give you that
Tony Whitburn since you’ve listened to it and enjoyed I’ll recommend another band Built to Sill the guitarist/lead singer cite j mascis as a big influence the album “keep it like a secret” by them is great. And I also recommend Aja by steely dan if you haven’t already heard it. Keep up the good videos
11:13 Nice catch! Also take that Radiohead (they were probably still recording OK Computer at the same time as this album though). Are you wearing a Blur milk shirt in the video by the way?
Weezer keeps trying to recreate their original sound to get their fanbase back, but they think their origin was metal. It wasn't. it was that pixies vibe mixed with the nirvana vibe mixed with the beach boys vibe. I wish they could do that again.
Hi Tony, your next reaction should be "Dayvan Cowboy" by Boards of Canada. Or just any album by them to be honest. They never seem to dissapoint on any of their releases.
Scans channel.... Seriously man, how the hell are you reviewing (and enjoying) EVERY album I love also?!?! I have to find something you havent reviewed yet and suggest it lol!
You should do Maladroit! It's painfully overlooked imo. Rivers' heavy metal roots shine through on the album and there's some really cool, technical riffs.
You don't have to do a review but check out their cover of Velouria from the pixies. Also way back they also were a nirvana cover band called goat punishment.
Was a little shithead punker when this came out but I instantly fell in love with it. Imo their best album. Blue is good too but defnitely second to Pinkerton. The rest of their stuff never really interested me. Great reaction.
Matt Sharp's influence on the Weezer sound is very under-appreciated. After he left, I feel like the original spirit of Weezer left with him. Nothing sounded the same since. For me, Blue and Pinkerton ARE Weezer.
