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First Ride 2024 KTM 300 XC-W TWO STROKE 

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With the re-invention of its XC-W off-road line, KTM’s two-year top-to-bottom transformation is complete. Model for model, the company’s motorcycles look nothing like they did two years ago. For the 2024 KTM 300XC-W, that means it got a new motor, a new frame and new suspension, just like the motocross bikes did one year ago. But, this isn’t just a repackaging of the same parts. The 300XC-W is a different bike with a completely different purpose.
Traditionally the Ws are more about power quality than quantity, and in keeping with KTM tradition, they are built around PDS no-link rear suspension. Accordingly, the frame was redesigned from scratch with PDS in mind. It wasn’t like they could just take last year’s SX suspension and just remove the linkage. It doesn't work like that. This shock is similar to the one on the SX, but it has a different body and radically different internals. Now it has a straight-rate spring, whereas last year’s PDS bikes all had progressive springs. It also has clickers that can be adjusted by hand; even the rebound adjuster on the bottom.
There’s bigger news up front. The open-cartridge WP Xplor fork is gone. In its place is a coil-spring version of the Xact fork that comes on the competition bikes. It has a closed cartridge and now the two fork legs are more-or-less symmetrical--no more split design with the rebound damping on one side and the compression on the other. Those legs are clamped in place by a new forged and machine-finished triple clamp, unlike anything KTM has used before.As for the motor, it’s a whole new game. Transfer port injection is completely gone in the KTM line, replaced now by throttle-body injection. Most riders felt the greatest thing about TPI was that it forced the adaptation of oil injection on the XC-W models. KTM kept that, so you still have the little oil filler in front of the gas cap and you don't have to dig out your ratio rite. Transfer port Injection originally came in 2018 as a means to have street-homologated two-stroke in some parts of Europe. Now, KTM has attained similar results with throttle body injection, which, as it turns out, offers significant advantages for peak horsepower. TPI was smooth and great for trail riding, but the new system definitely has more bark. Along with the injection system comes an electronic power valve which opens up a whole new world for tuning. So far, we have just scratched the surface as far as mapping possibilities with different combinations of fuel delivery, spark advance and port timing. The 300XC-W doesn't come with a map switch, but there are two different maps pre programmed into the ECU. Trust us, you should buy a map switch when you get the bike.To help us out with the testing we brought along Carson Brown, who is one of the most well-known two-stroke fanatics in the sport and one of very few riders who has scored National Motocross points on a two-stroke. We turned and the him loose on the Russell ranch--it was fun to watch.KTM invited us to ride all the new XC-Ws the day after the John Penton GNCC at Sunday Creek Raceway. We brought Carson Brown along as our primary test rider because … well, he’s Carson Brown. After a day riding in the Ohio woods and on a grass track, Carson came back completely stoked on the 300XC-W. It’s clear that KTM now sees the bike as more competition oriented than ever before. First on the list; it’s powerful, but it doesn’t hit uncontrollably down low. It’s actually kind of mellow at low rpm, even in the more aggressive green map. In the middle it’s far, far stronger than the previous version and it revs out much further. Last year’s 300XC cross-country bike is a more valid comparison. That bike was so closely related to the motocross version that it was a difficult bike to use off road. In the green map it was so aggressive and so abrupt that very few riders could make it work properly in technical terrain. The white map was a big step down. It needed something in between. That’s where the XC-W power delivery fits. The green map is excellent for aggressive trail riding and racing, and you don’t have to be Carson Brown to hold on. As far as overall handling goes, this bike is much racier feeling than it has been in the past. The frame is more rigid,the suspension is stiffer and it feels more like a race bike. The actual frame geometry isn’t that different; it’s all about flex characteristics, suspension and ergonomics. Even the PDS rear end is stiffer and stays up in its travel a little higher. In the past, there was a big divide between PDS fans and linkage devotees. Those walls are going to crumble. Even at speed, there’s no real drawback to the PDS system, and you still get advantages in ground clearance and weight. Our encounter with the bike was brief, but we have a 300XC-W coming for long-term evaluation. Stay tuned.

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@jeffpiatt3879
@jeffpiatt3879 Год назад
Thank you for not putting obnoxious music in the background! The bike "speaks" for itself.
@ryannafe9252
@ryannafe9252 Год назад
Holy shit. That guy flows through a woods trail like a freakin’ DEER! 😳
@HotPlates.
@HotPlates. Год назад
Carson Brown, it’s a privilege to watch you ride anything and everything
@SurfRinseRepeat
@SurfRinseRepeat Год назад
Would of been nice to hear some of Carsons thoughts...
@jerichokid903x
@jerichokid903x Год назад
Right. We flew Carson out to take sweet shots but didn’t get his opinion. And basically read the manufacture list of updates. Whoever puts this together. Needs to step up their game.
@jamesclark4
@jamesclark4 10 месяцев назад
Clearly he didn't think positively about it or they would have included it
@henricusrealms8411
@henricusrealms8411 Год назад
Carson might want to consider doing some ISDE qualifiers, get on our ISDE team.🙂
@stinkyelk986
@stinkyelk986 Год назад
I bought every dirtbike magazine in the 80s and 90s. It's a shame they can't seem to get the same feel on video.
@darkone9572
@darkone9572 Год назад
Everything sucks nowadays !! To hell in a handbasket and the govt is toting the handle
@Jimmy_Watt
@Jimmy_Watt Год назад
Ron Lawson's narration on these videos gives me a little bit of the feeling of print-only days. Thanks for that.
@phillipzx3754
@phillipzx3754 Год назад
I wish KTM would do a "Penton" commemorative. My first serious dirt bike was a 175 Penton (KTM engine) that I bought brand new. The 175 had just come on the market, and I fell in love with them. At the time, east coast bikes were sold as Pentons, and west coast were KTM. I've been a KTM fan ever since.
@jetdr
@jetdr Год назад
I have been looking at 4 strokes, this kind of changes my mind a little, I like the TBI injection much better than TPI.
@rdgsupafli
@rdgsupafli Год назад
I need one!!!
@tdubbs934
@tdubbs934 Год назад
Picked up a 23 tx300. Really like the tbi.
@onebadfourbyfour
@onebadfourbyfour Год назад
Can't wait to speak with @carson_brown about this bike. Just bought the wife a 150 xc-w and it will be my turn for a new bike very shortly, especially after watching this. So glad they ditched the air forks, was always funny to me watching racers in the PNW adjusting air in the pits due to major temp swings.
@markmcghee984
@markmcghee984 Год назад
The 1966 susuki 250 hustler had a oil injection also , no having to premix was so cool just another tank to fill….lol
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 Год назад
I have an '18 300 XC, which has been a great bike. This new W is more XC like but of course it has PDS, which is great for clearance on gnarly rocky trails, the wider ratio transmission, and a headlight. It sure sounds crisp in the video too. This considerably spicier W would be my choice if buying today for the aggressive mountain and desert trail riding I like to do in Colorado where I live. I bet the headlight still sucks though - come on KTM, put a nice bright LED bulb in there from the factory will ya?
@joshburch4959
@joshburch4959 Год назад
Negative ghost rider, headlight is a good LED now!!!
@papafranku1011
@papafranku1011 Год назад
In their update list ktm listed a new LED headlight 🤞🏻
@Duken4evr29
@Duken4evr29 Год назад
@@papafranku1011 Sweet! Hell may have just frozen over - a KTM dirt bike with a good headlight from the factory!
@papafranku1011
@papafranku1011 Год назад
@@Duken4evr29 here’s to hoping it actually works well so we don’t have to buy aftermarket ones
@jasonmiller4046
@jasonmiller4046 Год назад
God Bless one and all the 2 stroke lives
@hermitrob5481
@hermitrob5481 Год назад
Gonna be a run on 23' XCW and Husqy TE TPI's. KTM finally delivers a manageable 2T powerband with a plush suspension for real single track east coast trail riding and they have to go and overthink it. If we wanted an XC we would have bought an XC. KTM needs to make a distinction between wide open desert style trail type riding where these 24' features shine and tight single track east coast riding where the more mellow power delivery, low end lugging ability and softer suspension shines. The entire market doesn't want a race bike. Newsflash KTM! We don't all race!
@herridge8917
@herridge8917 Год назад
Go buy a xtrainer or the like if you want something more mellow. Would rather have too much bike and tame it down than not enough and have to spend serious $$$ to bring it up to scratch.
@herridge8917
@herridge8917 Год назад
And from what I’ve read the XC-W has 49hp and the XC has 58hp so fair bit less
@zayneriess634
@zayneriess634 Год назад
The xc is a motocross bike with a bigger tank the xcw is a full enduro/hard enduro bike
@zayneriess634
@zayneriess634 Год назад
And if you still want something with less power and softer suspension buy a smaller cc bike or a xtrainer from beta
@hermitrob5481
@hermitrob5481 Год назад
@@herridge8917 Lol, I don’t give a flyin F what you want. I didn’t post for you. You want a more powerful bike buy a 450 cool guy. And who said anything about less power or more mellow? I’m sayin I like the power where it’s at. Seems like many agree. I can change the power valve spring like anyone else for more or less hit if that’s what I want. Giving my opinion on KTM completely changing the bike I own. Could give a shit on your opinion of my opinion.
@ronpage101
@ronpage101 Год назад
What a great bike. Perfect upgrades. Most likely my next bike. One thing about this next generation of bikes is affordability. I can, but I have buddy's who just can't justify the price of these. With a wife and kids, its tough to fork out almost 13k on a new ride. Would be nice if they would build a "trail bike". Back in 2007 I bought one for less than 7k. I'd be curious as to what percentage of riders actually race. Unfortunately, it would most likely take away sales from the $$$ bikes.
@seamarsh3756
@seamarsh3756 Год назад
7k in 2007 is around 10500 in todays $
@ronpage101
@ronpage101 Год назад
@@seamarsh3756 Yea, I get it, inflation an all, but I hope the major manufacturers don't forget about trail bikes. A new 2007 like technology bike that still rips, would have a huge market. Carburetor, non electric power valve, and no carbon fiber. Yamaha comes close.
@kirkthepimp1
@kirkthepimp1 Год назад
Ktm is definitely superior in the 2 strokes.. it’s 2023 I’m not trying to kick a bike and ride a 06 for a few grand less
@ronpage101
@ronpage101 Год назад
@@kirkthepimp1 Button start in 2007. Fast as he'll too. Sorry if you all are ok with this much $$$. I'm not .
@fiefdom3751
@fiefdom3751 Год назад
​@@ronpage101 The improvements in R&D since then have been immense though. I just upgraded from a 2011 to 2023 and the bike is just so much easier to handle and ride. The electric starts on those older bikes was also really underpowered and almost always broke. I'm with you on the price, but it's just such a good bike to say no to.
@mikeking7388
@mikeking7388 Год назад
I also need to get one for long term evaluation lol
@joeybuckingham7006
@joeybuckingham7006 Год назад
i used to ride the same track that Carson Brown would practice and i would run in the same class as him on practice's and let me tell you he had a Honda cr that would fucking sing man, That guy would get on the pipe and stay on it for a 20min moto was amazing to watch and hear and ride with.
@UltraSS-nj8kd
@UltraSS-nj8kd Год назад
Like the looks and the led light. TPI bone stock (or TPI with a get ecu) will be the superior way for trail riders looks like. Not a fan of no kickstarter option, electric power valve, stiffer suspension (the WP Xplore is my favorite), no stock map switch, mix material subframe, was worse tank design & smaller, etc. At least they kept oil injection, no offense to anyone that bought the XC but it was dumb. If i was gonna have to mix ill just buy a carb bike or Beta/Sherco.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
UtraSS 1. Kick starters are never used, don't need them. 2. Elec power valve is far superior to static spring. 3. New bike does not have a stiffer suspension, its softer with the front spring and easier to adjust as well. 4. XCW has never come with a map switch, but you have always been able to add one, new bike is no different. 5. Not worse tank design, and uses same materials as before. 6. Sub frame, might not be worse, I fix lots of aluminum subs and they are very expensive, new design is supposed to flex back if not too big of a hit, we will see. 7. Oil injection is crap, might be cool not to mix gas, but it is not dependable and KTM had to go to it due to emissions, not because its better. 8. Saying people are dumb for buying XC's instead of carb bikes, fuel injection has its advantages and having a KTM vs some other manufacturer does as well.
@Dashriprock4
@Dashriprock4 Год назад
Rieju
@BackHurtsBad
@BackHurtsBad Год назад
tell me if they use Kymco cylinders, thats all I want to know
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Kymco cylinders are used all over the spectrum and with high end engine systems.
@09DUKE690
@09DUKE690 Год назад
Long ways from when I raced my 05 300 exc
@KoltFin
@KoltFin Год назад
Fun fact Yamaha had electric power valve in the 90s. The forks should have been on the te/xcw for the last 6-7 years
@garretthorner
@garretthorner Год назад
Disappointed to hear the description of how the power hits on the new bike… I feel the only flaw with the TPI xcw is it doesn’t have the low end pull that the sherco 300 does for the hard technical stuff. Maybe they’ve improved it though I’ll have to ride one myself before I can really be certain
@kirkthepimp1
@kirkthepimp1 Год назад
Get a xc they did it intentionally with the xcw
@garretthorner
@garretthorner Год назад
@@kirkthepimp1 tried the XC and owned a TX300. They’re not hard enduro bikes they’re closer to an mx bike than the XCW and TE models and have even less low end power… I’m happy with my sherco for technical riding
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
They were talking specifics to when you want to haul the beans...it's a supper low grunting master, you will see.
@MRmwr2452
@MRmwr2452 Год назад
can I still run premix and skip the oil reservoir?
@KingFriday274
@KingFriday274 Год назад
Carson brown makes xr80s look like they rip.
@damolux3388
@damolux3388 Год назад
Sounds much like a 250 2T. Quick revving.
@dirtabletv
@dirtabletv Год назад
Any changes to the fuel pump or stator size as compared to the XC’s?
@DeadEnduro
@DeadEnduro Год назад
I’m waiting to hear this as well. I think the stator has to be bigger than the 23 XC
@douglaswilliams1792
@douglaswilliams1792 4 месяца назад
Are the oil pump issues fixed?
@garthlundquist3623
@garthlundquist3623 Год назад
TBI should cure the cold weather seizure issue with TPI. The fuel will act as a solvent and thin out the cold oil on the reed block at startup. Hopefully the crankcase pressure sensor situation has been cured. They should last longer than 3 months. But the overall trend to harder and faster? That doesn’t work in the slippery gnar. Some of us ride all winter in the snow and wet. Finding traction in ridiculous circumstances is the game. I will need to ride it to comment on the suspension.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
TPI cold weather seizures were from user error, not design error.
@ModularMuscle
@ModularMuscle Год назад
white plate looks out of place, and while I understand why they kept the oil injection, it just seems like another failure point. Still seems like an XC (with a throttle tamer if needed) that still has similar gearing to a W is a more reliable option with premix, and cheaper.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Kind of agree with you...
@infidelmat
@infidelmat Год назад
Yes, TBI let's you oil delete, unlike pure TPI
@mikebishop6095
@mikebishop6095 Год назад
So is it pre mix or injection
@6bt_str864
@6bt_str864 Год назад
Im surprised (next time at my local publix im looking for dirt bike mag )
@gastonbelanger5346
@gastonbelanger5346 Год назад
@ 82 years old I just bought a new 2023 KTM 300 XC-W Erzbergrodeo and am now at Moab's Hells Revenge dialing it in. Top Ten Old Dirt Bike Riders Logic 10. Flirt with death, beats living in procrastination. 9. What may kill you, makes you feel more alive. 8. The closer to death the more alive you'll feel. 7. Fun spank reality before it spanks you dead. 6. Die having fun before death beats you to it. 5. Pitch it sideways around the walls of fear. 4. Ride fast now, die later happier you did. 3. Live longer as a controlled crash rider. 2. Hold no ones beer, hand them yours. 1. One must die living, avoiding death. ~Gasser Classic~
@lornes3464
@lornes3464 Год назад
Yep. I just bought a 2023 Sherco Factory. 64.
@estebanalmeida
@estebanalmeida 7 месяцев назад
is it the same as the EXC? I'm a bit confused.
@vxe6vxe6
@vxe6vxe6 Год назад
I wonder how that new 300 will do in the Western Washington gnar.
@mbrick
@mbrick Год назад
Agreed... the entire video was on the pipe and that's certainly not the case with where and how I ride. How does it lug in the nasty stuff?
@jessybonsant5181
@jessybonsant5181 Год назад
Carson Brown!
@loadthebowl
@loadthebowl Год назад
Which one would throw a better rooster tail 🐓 the SX or the XC-W
@leanit5756
@leanit5756 6 месяцев назад
Nice bike. I haven't rode a 2-stroke since the 80s. I wish they would delivery the 2 strokes with quieter exhaust. Taking a bike to the forrest and pissing everyone off in a 3 mile radius really isn't my thing.
@Dat_Sun
@Dat_Sun Год назад
I wonder how many watts the led headlight draws?
@banffdigger
@banffdigger Год назад
I read somewhere that they upgraded the stator on the xc-w from the xc
@Jacare1973
@Jacare1973 Год назад
I would like to know why is there such a hp difference between the XC & XCW
@Jaysrippen
@Jaysrippen Год назад
me too, also is 10lbs heavier
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
its de-tuned so it can function down low where you need it for gnarly trails. too much rip is not good for slow technical riding
@DeadEnduro
@DeadEnduro Год назад
I was buying into everything this video had to say until he mentioned the maps. I currently have a 2023 XC 300 and the white map rips. There is no way it is was “ a big step down). Hard for me to take anything else he says in the video seriously That XCW did look and sound fantastic as Carson was on the gas.
@dmcdevitt8
@dmcdevitt8 Год назад
I love my 22 300 xcw. Only thing I wish I had was this suspension. It's always tempting for a new bike but I think throwing the 6500 xplor cartridges in there is the way to go.
@johnaustin6673
@johnaustin6673 Год назад
Hard to take KTM seriously now the motors are made in China. Way to many 300 2t's eating pistons this year.
@slaverace1
@slaverace1 Год назад
@@johnaustin6673 Get your facts straight. NO KTM engines are built in China.
@johnaustin6673
@johnaustin6673 Год назад
@@slaverace1 Get your shit straight, look it up. CF Moto build's that junk, while you're at it search for KTM 300 piston failure.
@johnaustin6673
@johnaustin6673 Год назад
@@slaverace1 sorry to be the bearer of bad news, that was 2020. It's worse now, most motors are made in China.
@pipefitterdirtbikerider3013
Is it still oil injected
@joshburch4959
@joshburch4959 Год назад
Always been an XC without the “W” kind of guy. This bike may put the “W” at the end of my next XC. I am excited, and also getting old, so…..
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi Год назад
We dont have xc in europe . This wins evry race
@infidelmat
@infidelmat Год назад
Feel the same, this might be the Goldilocks bike for trail and hard enduro.
@joeyholthusen6495
@joeyholthusen6495 Год назад
Can you get Travis pastrana to ride one? Hmm 🤔
@darioswim
@darioswim 3 месяца назад
This 300 XC-W and 300 EXC are same???
@usa45v26
@usa45v26 9 месяцев назад
Funny how this video basically contrasts every video out there that is saying the bike is slow AF. (compared to the XC) I wouldnt put too much weight on this review, especially not hearing a peep from the actual rider. lol. My friend just bought the Hard Enduro spec bike after selling his 2023 300xc-w and he says it could be the best bike he ever had.
@ShadowsFirst
@ShadowsFirst Год назад
And the line between XC and XCW blurs even more.
@jimihendrix8535
@jimihendrix8535 Месяц назад
When it becomes 10 years old can someone get parts for it like you can a Yamaha? That is really my only worry with KTM. For guys who buy bikes and wear them out in 3-4 years, no worries. Others don't ride as much and keep bikes longer.
@christopherbrunning7671
@christopherbrunning7671 Год назад
Is it a 6 speed?
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
yes
@311hitwall
@311hitwall Год назад
why choose a 2 stroke over a 4 stroke or vice versa with this type of bike?
@chrisgarrard2081
@chrisgarrard2081 11 месяцев назад
2 strokes have more of a instant power
@HVACOG
@HVACOG 7 месяцев назад
Is this bike street legal in California
@DirtBikeMagazine
@DirtBikeMagazine 7 месяцев назад
No it is not. You would have to plate it in Arizona or South Dakota to ride in California
@mxbadboy263
@mxbadboy263 11 месяцев назад
Just can't justify the cost of the newest KTM's. My 2001 KTM 250SX only cost me $1500 and is reliable and is an awesom woods weapon.
@patrickgiles2700
@patrickgiles2700 Год назад
Beta, or KTM? Been looking at the Beta 300 RR Race Edition.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Both bikes are a complete home run. Since this is first year for the new XCW I would go with the Beta Race.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 Год назад
Lower seat height? Now that TPI is gone that’s the only thing that will make me think about selling my carb’d 2018.
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician Год назад
@@freddymuldoon249 Care to expand?
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
@Freddy Muldoon Major flaws, Where? 2018 KTM definitely worth keeping but to say major flaws with this new bike isn't true.
@peterkoning21
@peterkoning21 Год назад
There is NOTHING like a two stroke !!!!
@Slotopro
@Slotopro Год назад
What is the difference with the gear ratios on the new XC-W versus the XC? The only reason I haven't bought an XC-W in the past is because of the gear ratios being so different. This new bike looks like it might be the first generation that I can't pass up over an XC.
@ShawnBlais
@ShawnBlais Год назад
I don't think they're "so different" if you check the gear ratios, 1st is 10% longer, 2nd is 2% longer, the rest are all the same.
@larrypatton9663
@larrypatton9663 Год назад
I cant find transmiss\ion gear sets specs for the 2024 300 xcw,not 23 the new 24,I suspect the new 2024 xcw and xc have same gear box,just different sprockets?
@JoshStreetDesign
@JoshStreetDesign 6 месяцев назад
So I ride a 22 SX-F 450. After a full day on that on Saturday I hopped on my friends 24 300XC.... I have to be honest, maybe it was just me riding it wrong or something, but it felt like a toy. It felt like it had no power or torque. Slow as a snail. It wasn't even in the same universe as my 450, not even close. Extremely soft suspension as well. Am I missing something here? I can't understand why anyone would want to ride that...
@kirkdunn1379
@kirkdunn1379 5 месяцев назад
different bikes for different applications......not even comparable
@RECKLESS4STROKER
@RECKLESS4STROKER Год назад
2023 model yeah not eve 24 yet bro
@MAXlMUS
@MAXlMUS Год назад
No linkeage :(
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
Thats on their XC bike, this bike has a design for clearance so you can clear the gnarly technical stuff without hanging and hitting linkage
@MAXlMUS
@MAXlMUS Год назад
@@onthethrottle7104 I don't think that part of the clearance ever mattered though. It's the pipe being hit all the time. Linkeage plus slider is all over hard enduro series. It has a better response on a rough terrain.
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 Год назад
Only took them 20 years after everyone to install a closed cartridge forks.
@stmboat
@stmboat Год назад
These prices are remaining reasonable...
@KTMGUNNER
@KTMGUNNER Год назад
Wth is yhat damn high pitched random bell sound evwry so often jesus Christ it pierces my ear drums
@goneridingparts
@goneridingparts Год назад
Sounds like it revs out like the 250xcw, but has the torque of a 300... should be great.
@benmartin6476
@benmartin6476 Год назад
XC is cross country XCW is cross country Wide ratio
@WASemiHardEnduro
@WASemiHardEnduro Год назад
Not anymore!
@curtiscollins2174
@curtiscollins2174 Год назад
Please don't leave out 13000 dollar price tag. Very important to most riders.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Год назад
its not $13K its $11K...and if you wait until next April/May it will be $8,900
@thomastjg53
@thomastjg53 Год назад
Why purple, doesn’t look good, just saying !
@DeadEnduro
@DeadEnduro Год назад
Back to 1994 colours
@moneyontrees6
@moneyontrees6 Год назад
Exactly and no orange frame. Design department needs a kick in the ass. Probably 30
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken
@AllHandlesHaveBeenTaken Год назад
The seat is too high
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi
@FrankyboyGiovanni-yz8qi Год назад
This is a racebike in europe
@mohammedalhabsi2198
@mohammedalhabsi2198 Год назад
Tbh the graphics are kinda of a downgrade
@dinkum83
@dinkum83 Год назад
First off, I don’t buy a bike based on how it looks nor sounds unlike some folk, but that thing it’s butt ugly, overpriced and lacks certain factory parts that other models now run with straight out of the crate.
@Tibingi84
@Tibingi84 Год назад
KTM has a unique ability to make the exc/xc-w models significantly uglier than the MX version… what a shame
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Год назад
I quite like these offerings.
@Bt26x
@Bt26x 8 месяцев назад
I didn’t think they were ugly. I loved my 350EXC. These look great too IMHO.
@micah7448
@micah7448 4 месяца назад
The XC looks way better, a lot closer to a SX bike.
@OleMisss
@OleMisss 2 месяца назад
@@micah7448the light and handle bar plastics just look cheap to me but other than that I don’t see a problem with this design.
@tomrowland2692
@tomrowland2692 Год назад
Under informed commentary. This is as much a race bike as an XC or SX.
@mentalmoto763
@mentalmoto763 Год назад
I would rather not hear the school teacher read about motorcycles, this guy needs to behind the desk where this voice belongs!
@garnet4846
@garnet4846 Год назад
Purple is ugly and sticks out like a sore thumb, right month for it though.
@mentalmoto763
@mentalmoto763 Год назад
Can't watch this guy, rather it be music or something.
@morganlstrobel
@morganlstrobel Год назад
Purple sucks. With no kickstarter option it should be great for factory racers and people who don’t go very far from the pits. I’ll stick with my Beta race edition.
@seanyuke3249
@seanyuke3249 Год назад
Too flat.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 Год назад
This was never a “trail” bike. Lol. A CRF230F or a TTR-230 is a trail bike.
@russphillips3732
@russphillips3732 Год назад
For women
@TeamBennyRides
@TeamBennyRides Год назад
@@russphillips3732 😳
@TeamBennyRides
@TeamBennyRides Год назад
@@russphillips3732 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fI6Lu6b9sVI.html&feature=share
@TeamBennyRides
@TeamBennyRides Год назад
I wouldn’t say that 🤔
@russphillips3732
@russphillips3732 Год назад
Definitely
@randybailey2282
@randybailey2282 Год назад
Noisy and stinking way back and still a polluter
@fredtello
@fredtello 5 месяцев назад
cry more....
@pepemanolo390
@pepemanolo390 8 месяцев назад
Possibly the most plastic and ugly edition of the KTM models
@philallsopp6592
@philallsopp6592 Год назад
Most boring looking bikes ever maid
@cintroberts6614
@cintroberts6614 Год назад
The Honda 450 l is so much better.
@calar619
@calar619 Год назад
Really? Purple? What’s next? A bud light sticker?
@purebloodheretic4682
@purebloodheretic4682 Год назад
Yeah, they must want to Boost the Gasgas sales! It's Red for me for sure!👍
@georgekasza7295
@georgekasza7295 Год назад
Orange and purple !!! Ugly
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