I love multi use trails! I’m an avid mountain biker, dirt biker, horseback rider and hiker so I bring all the perspectives. Multi use gives me more choice to use more trails in more ways I want to and a little maturity allows me to enjoy it with others without getting crusty.
Unless you have a really good horror, so I wouldn’t write it on a trail with either mountain bikes or motorcycles I’ve seen too many horse people get hurt
@@bradleyhetherington2145 We do it all the time in Colorado. Was just at Seep Springs and we had horses, dirt bikes, mountain bikes and 4x4s and everyone was respectful and got to enjoy the trails and the horses were absolute pros. I know there are circumstances where it doesn't work well but as much as possible, I love to see multi-use trails as it expands open space opportunity for everyone. And if you can get past the disappointment of having to halt a bombing run downhill to give way to a horse and appreciate the majesty and beauty of sharing the trail with one, you end up gaining so much more than what that adrenaline would have provided you. I get it, it's not easy but I love sharing the trail with everyone. The other thing that it 'hopefully' does is teach everyone to slow down and be cautious. I can have just as much fun riding mountain bikes, dirt bikes or a horse slow as I can fast when you teach yourself to enjoy the experience. I know, utopia but I just hate limiting choice.
I've seen less people on the New York City sidewalks, WTF Great bike Jeff, she really has grunt ability at a level never heard before. Super good riding!!! Great stamina too.
I’m an avid mountain biker too, but I go out of my way to avoid riding heavily used multidirection trails on the mountain bike. I regularly go down to the springs and ride that location, but usually I only ride some of the segments on Jacks. I prefer riding some of the unsanctioned trails in the area though. Last Saturday, the 17th I timed the thunderstorms perfectly. There’s a running race happening and it’s lightly sprinkling when I left Jacks lot. I removed my rain jacket at the location where you started this video. I only encountered three other people and I did a loop up Jones Park, and back down pipeline and to the end of moto legal portion of lake moraine. It was incredible. Not having all the heavy trail traffic and the exceptional conditions. Albeit feet were soaked from all the water that made in my boots.
That tail looks great! Man the MTB traffic is fo-real. As long as people are riding in what I call "their line of sight" its all good. We know they're not. Jeff you're a solid citizen out there! Stay safe!
Well, it is called single track for a reason. It wouldn't have mattered if it was a dirt bike, mountain bike or hiker that dude was going head on with who ever made that corner. Way to keep your cool Jeff. He probably went home and wrote a letter to his congressman. Lol!!.
Watched this video and it convinced me that this would be my next bike. Downsized from a 690 enduro to a 300 XCW Hard Enduro. Nice to ride a bike that weights 100 lbs less. Can't wait to test it out at Rampart next yr.
There's a few multi-use trails like that in Eastern Washington. You only need some horseback riders and hikers with their dogs off the leash to make it really interesting. 🤣
Excellent info and video. You took the high road by not asking why they didn't slow down when hearing a dirtbike coming at them. I'm still curious... 💪😀👍
wow such crazy terrain...i live in Florida and here it's either mud/dirt/sand trails or 70 mph "fire roads" where you get to practice your flat track skills along with just how much you want to push the line with the pine trees staring you in the face.
@@slaverace1 I was just thinking that. You could have had your fist up signifying you were the last in your group. Several of the folks here have no idea people aren’t waving at them on forest trails. While I have your attention and possibly others might read this. Your shop has the most helpful and knowledgeable staff I’ve ever encountered. Your RU-vid presents is the least you do for the community. Can’t wait to visit in person and I recommend everyone stop by and contribute to what you’ve built.
@@joefoster259 Thank you. We have a great staff but we are always training them for even better service. Please stop by. It’s a KTM candy store like no other. If we don’t have it, you probably don’t need it.
Thought that was you on Sunday. We came off the trail about the same time. I should have said Hi. I ran into some other guys on the trail that were also run into. Maybe I need to put a timber bell on my moto too.....
Very cool track. The bike sounds top notch and tempts me to get one of the new injected models. I don't know if luggability is a word but it sure does describe your machine well.
You mentioned that the 2024 doesn't have a shimmy to it. Ever since I got my 23 tuned just right I love it... Cant imagine better. But I have had two wrecks where my front end slid a little then when I corrected the bike whipped around and I go flying over the handlebars... Like it all happens really fast. Is this the shimmy that you said the 20-23 frame had?
I know its rider error but is this what you where talking about? Sometimes I feel the bike want to shake similar to a high speed wobble.. on those I just wobbe with it for 1 second and its perfect... but my reaction time isn't always super fast as I'm getting old.
Good job handling the mtb thing. I've done the same and I've been a mtb-er for a long time. In fact, I might have learned to mtb decades ago on that very same trail if it's behind the Broadmore hotel! You're right about fit and finish on the Betas wrt your last video. I love the bike but damn, they could learn a thing or 2 from KTM
So strange seeing hikers, mtn bikers and dirt bikes all on the same trail. Not something I’ve even seen before where I’m at. The mtn bikes can’t negotiate the dirt bike trails, too rough and rugged, and the hikers hate walking on dirt bike trail, and have TONS of other trails they can walk. I have done countless rides without ever seeing another person in the woods lol
Hello: There are over 100 hiking/biking trails in our county and only one moto trail. Most of our great higher elevation trails are still buried in snow.
Great view I otherwise would never see. Nice trail except for two way traffic and rocks. I even lifted my foot a couple of times. Lol. No sand either. I hate sand....
Blind corners + speed = reap it . Yer right. Weekends? Nope. Not since I got jabbed by a "ski pole" flatlander after I pulled over for him (still got the scar. Rt bicep). I only ride weekdays now. Fun looking trail fer sure. Jeff- 23/24 TX300 Flange Supports soon, preeeez!?
Nice Bike and video. I have a deposit on 2024 husky TE 300. Do you feel like these bikes need to have ECU reflashed/tuned like I had to do on my FE 350?
I’m super interested in this bike. I too, am a larger rider. Springs are a must. But you made some setup comments about making the bike less crowded for larger riders. Would love to know more about that. Or is there a better model suited for taller/bigger guys?
Great terrain but damn man, two way traffic sucks. It is dangerous for all on the trail. Good to see so much respect though out here between the hikers, mountain bikers and motorcyclists.
That MTB rider had to have headphones on and the music cranked, otherwise he would have heard Jeff's bike. It is pretty dumb to ride on a busy multi use trail listening to loud music instead of what is going on. Jack's is just way too busy, plus there have been a lot of complaints of theft in the staging area. I haven't ridden there in years. Nice riding by Jeff though! I recently rode a friend's new 300 TBI, it seemingly ran as good as my perfectly tuned '18 300 XC carb'd bike 😆 He fouled a plug on our ride though, fortunately he had a spare. I hear the TBIs are having some trouble with fouling plugs, which I don't get, as the bike runs crisp and well. In stock form anyway, the TBI is definitely snappier than a TPI.
Busy day on the trail. My buddy had a collision with an MB who was going way too fast AND had his ear buds in listening his Taylor Swift or whatever. The mountain bike got the worse of it with a tacoed front wheel and a suspected broken finger. Only knocked the headlight off of my buddies bike. Makes we wonder if your guy was listening to his tunes as well instead of for bikes coming up the trail.
Sounds like most of the mods you made were to make it more like an XC rather than an XC-W. Why not get and XC, change the gearing and add a headlight and taillight?
Hello: That may be the way it sounds to you but that is not even close. The mods I've made so far make it a more potent, more rideable, more enjoyable XCW.
Well that was a first, right off the bat a collision with a MTB rider. Too bad his partner didn't warn you of others coming down the trail. When I was riding MTB I usually rode the non-motorized trails and in the winter so there was nobody else out there for the most part. Only 5 minutes in and that trail is too busy for me. At least there wasn't any quads or sxs's.
Do you happen to know what size spring they put on the rear. I am a fan of the straight rate but found I have to run much higher than what is recommended.
69 N/mm slavensracing.com/shop/shock-springs-straight-rate-for-24-ktm-pds-linkless/ If you run a stiffer spring than our charts recommend, your sag measurement procedure is incorrect.
Best suspension ever that could be made loads better or put on some of the parts we sell…… come on Jeff which one is it ….. really good or really not that good 🤷♀️
I'm sorry, you must have fallen asleep. Grab a cup of Joe and watch it again. I clearly explained it is the best suspension set-up that KTM has provided to date.
@@slaverace1 still not plush , still deflects and can be improved….. doesn’t really sound like the best set up they have delivered to date …. 2012 closed cartridge fork was amazing…..
You sure had way to many “oh $hit” moments on that ride. It was nice to see everyone was respectful of each other. I guess there’s no way at the trail head a direction marker could be placed showing the course is running clockwise today for example and then the next day the course goes counter clockwise? Bike sounded awesome! I’m guilty of this myself (but only on the road bike) you need to have a riding partner. Thanks for all the great riding and instructional videos you put out not to mention all the great things you do for our sport.
No, not at all. He wasn't even riding that fast. In the MTB world, riders going uphill on multi direction trails have the right of way, but not if it is an idiot riding over their head on a dirtbike.
This is some of the most thrilling beautiful and unspoilt terrain I have ever seen. I have never seen as much foot, bicycle and motorcycle traffic all fighting for the same 2 feet of dirt track. What makes it worse is your going against them. It should be directional and favour the labour intensive. Make the loop easiest for the walker and hiker, then MTB then Motorcycles. Otherwise your going to kill someone. Plain and simple, the motorcyclists will kill someone.
Hello: That has been a motorcycle trail for 50+ years, way before mtn bikes were invented. It is the only legal motorized trail in our county while the mtn bikers and hikers have over 100 trails to choose from. I'm an avid mtn biker, hiker, equestrian and dirt biker, but on that trail the users other than dirt bikers can kiss my grits.
I don't ride jacks on the weekends just for that reason the bicycles think they own the mountain just haul ass around every blind corner and then act like we ran into them? What pisses me off is when they have headphones on and you ask how many more then it's like talking to a brick wall 😂😂 I only ride there after work and Mondays and I also ride bicycles and I don't ride jacks it's like seriously that easy there's like 10,000 mt bike trails in springs but this is the only dirtbike trail
Brad: Sorry, I don't kiss and tell. Fishermen keep favorite fishing holes secret. Dirt bikers need to do the same so every trail on the planet does NOT get blown out by goons. (not implying you're a goon)
Yeah some people can't handle the 300 2-stroke guys like Graham Jarvis love it and Johnnie Walker but to each his own 350s a lot mellower as we get older I can see going to that someday
