First Royal Persian Visitor Describes European Life (1873) // Incredible Journey of Naser Al-Din 

"O how laughed heartily.." hehe, would be neat if that throw away remark started it all.

@@anathema2325 *Seinfeld theme begins playing*

Yeah Joe but you were the first to recognize the state of.. you know what nevermind

Even Stalin was creeped out by that...

You gonna go execute a few Jews for being Zionists (even if there is no evidence of them even being Zionists), Stalin?

lmao

I feel that

just giving you your 500th like lol

This made me laugh heartily.

came to the comment section looking for 'moistened' lmao

Or the women were scantily clad.

I think that it was because they couldnt understand the language used in the play

@@MisterCOM its ballet what language?

I know! I loved that 😃

It means they bend or show body parts not supposed of girls. Modesty in movements and dress was his country tradition.

I laughed with this comment

Translation: _"I had no idea what the fuck was going on; but I'd hate to appear uncultured and/or rude, so...._

They're not impressed lol

@@pslogge And I laughed heartily.

He's discribing how cringey the situation was.

Absolutely hilarious, i am in tears.

Lol

“...and he made no reply.” It was at this moment that events were set in motion that would change the world forever.

"Oh yeah, it's all coming together." - Rothschild, 1873

I'm not laughing.

And watched some firemen training. You'd have thought they would have taken them grouse shooting, or watched an exciting military display!

"Bro, we are Iranians in London bro! Lessago see the wax figures bro!"

@@luxborealis RUBBER DINGHY RAPIDS BRO!

Firemen training and Madame Tussauds was cutting edge at that time

@@jonbaker1697 ... and prussian ballet!

Although it originally mean Franks, modern uses of the word is a catch all for Western Europeans.

The Europeans were known in the arab world as "Ifranja" too. Especially the crusaders.

@@moulayismail1546 Interesting, Arabs used the Farsi word too? Isn't there a word for it in Semitic?

They also say “Yurub”

@@GrigRP the term el franj come from arab not farsi

Do you have any family heirlooms that have been passed down? The oldest thing I have is a cut glass set of bowls and plates that are from Germany my family brought over during the 1890s

I was just struck why the house plant most people have seen in homes is called the wandering Jew. They didn't have their own country. Duh. I always thought this name came from the reason the plant itself is so easy to grow & moves house to house that way. There is a big tradition in my family to share a house plant with a newly wed couple when they are setting up a house. I still have my grand mothers, mom's & aunt's plants the grew from parts of their own in my home though they are gone now. With the exception of the wandering Jew. When I asked why no one had brought me one, my mother inlaw told me , I would have to break part off ,& root it myself. Took me years to understand , that was to teach me how to root & grow my own.

Oy Vey!

'what could go wrong?'

And that's how the nation of Israel was born.

They have, it's called the United states corporation of America

I'm guessing he never went back, am I right?

Well Nader Shah was not of Persian origin.

@@RandomGuy-df1oy By your logic neither was Nasser Ad-Din Shah

@@alexaagerger3695 Yes that is true he wasn't of Persian origin aswell. "Iranian" would make much more sense.

@@RandomGuy-df1oy maybe but at their time Persian and Iranian were synonymous anyways

plot twist

"There’s no way this can come back to bite our peoples"

history is crazy

Based Shah

@@luxborealis I mean, it's the Islamic Republic that has issue with Israel not the Shah

Reminds me, I must reap my lawn post haste.

his articulate description of the English was so true, they are enlivening with a quick wit & animated features so endearing, not to mention that curious accent everyone loves world-over! i have always been an Anglophile.

@@megenberg8 Now it's Pakistan, how times change.

@@TheSquidPro The Shah would be disappointed if he travelled all the way to England just to see it's Pakistan now, because actual Pakistan would have been much closer for him.

@@TheSquidPro keeping coping u racist 😎😎🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰

@@noneimportant5951 Well any glance at a census will tell you what I've stated, and any glance at a newspaper will relish you with articles criticizing Europeans for their many faults. It is a far cry from the admiration and delight of the Shah here during the peak of the British. I must ask what I'm supposed to be coping with as it is an observable fact.

Oy vey!

times have certainly changed

*judeo-islamic values intensify*

He tells Rothschild to pretty much create Israel. How's that going for Persia (Iran) now?

@@joshm3484 Persians also freed the Jews from Babylon. Still waiting for a thank you card.

I mean, it makes perfect sense in the light of nationalism. Save lives in your own nation, destroy the lives of others whenever it ever slightly furthers your own nation's interest. And we haven't gotten one step further in overcoming national selfishness in international politics in those 150 years since then.

They did pay, a lot. The land where some of the largest cities in Israel were built was bought by the Rothschild family. Israel and Iran had good relations pre Islamic Revolution, both being US allies. To this day theres an oil pipeline built by Iran in Israel, intended to pump Iranian oil from the red sea to the Mediterranean, avoiding the Suez canal.

@@DrHavoc1 nonsense they only owned 7% of Palestine

@@ranro7371 7% of the territory that includes trans jordan

@@DrHavoc1 They payed the American governmemt to supply arms so they could genocide Palestine, salt the earth, and exterminate/remove 80% of the population. Israel is a genocidal settler colony, alien to the region.

@@DrHavoc1 LOL you cant buy mountains, rivers, lakes... If they had bought it they didn't have to invade it by armed forces and ethically cleanse hundreds of towns and villages and send over 750,000 people to exile...

In retrospect it is

Lol yes

Shah: "you should buy a country!" Rotshild: "haha, that's funny!" (takes notes furiously)

It's a good idea

What do you want, Iran? It was YOUR idea!

They were not as rich as the pahlavi dynasty

In specialised literature the Qajar art period in highly regarded.

they are looked down too because they lost their final war against Russia (making persia losing the caucasus region to russian empire )

@@viraloracle5151 they never could have won those wars, Persia simply didn't have the resources and population to contend with Russia.

@Ghost Ghost what?? The safavids were one of the best dynasties Pahlavi is the worst iran was puppet state to The west

They screwed up the country in every possible way, isn't that enough reason for a negative image?

Russian empire bro not soviets. (iranian here) soviets came to power during Pahlavis.

@@nimaakhtarkhavari8766 two of the greatest empires of that era decided to take parts of a weak country for themselves, at least Qajars played a good role and didn't let them colonize Iran like India, history is not all black and white

@@payamabbasi3555 these powers didn't colonise Iran because they were not interested in doing so. Iran was a literal playing field for them as one directly occupied the northand the other the south. Much like how Afghanistan wasn't "colonised" to act as a barrier between them. Also you need to remember that a mere half a century before the Qajars came along, Iran WAS one of these greatest empires in the world.

@@macseyyed7967 they were very much interested in colonizing Iran. They just didn't succeed

How much they had to pay and how much territory they lost? Is it comparable with Germans reperations and territory loss after ww1?

@@Larrypint The lost territory was Alsace - Lorraine, the territory France got back after WW1. And what they had to pay was 5 billion Francs, which was said would cripple the French economy for like 40 years (but it didn't, and surprisingly, with a lot of reforms the gov managed to pay it relatively quickly). I don't know how it compares with Versailles, considering economies and populations were larger in 1918 (and were always larger in Germany). So to be proportionately identical, it had to be larger. But it has to be noted that this war not nearly as devastating as WW1, thus this money benefited Germany a lot. While in WW1 all countries lost, nobody really won (except outside Europe, like USA). For Bismarck in 1871, the aim was to neutralize the French threat by emptying their finances. That was also the aim of France after WW1, to incapacitate the German threat. Because it's always concerning to have such a neighbour. "Punishing" was secondary imho.

Tbh France in 1941 would be a lot less dirty, unsafe and depressing than modern France.

@@swevixeh now that I think we can all agree with.

@@xenotypos I believe the “Versailles Treaty” absolutely crippled Germany & was excessively cruel. Which from what I’ve read led to the Weimar Republic along with hyper inflation. I agree no one really “won” that war, the Germans didn’t really need to surrender anymore then the French did, (which the German population saw as a betrayal by the ruling class) they Were both Devastated. Truth is WW1 & WW2 were largely the same conflict w/ a brief pause in the middle due to the heavy losses both economic & human. Apparently the treaty, Weimar conditions like hyper inflation, along with the humiliation & betrayal felt by Germans is what led to such a extreme form of Nationalism and the rise of Hitler. I think that could of been avoided had the Versailles Treaty not been seen as so unfair. No one really won the world wars, in particular the individual countries that participated. I know some people think the US ‘won’ because we kind of inherited SOME of Britains former global economic & military status but the truth was America was long on its way as the worlds superpower. We actually loaned Europe (especially British) a large portion of the money needed to rebuild their nations. Americans population was fiercely opposed to entry into both world wars, which was seen as the result of old beefs & grudges from ‘old world’ that we Americans have left behind. It wasn’t until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor which at the time was seen as a direct unprovoked attack on the US by the Japanese, it was enough to convince Americans to enter the war particularly against Japan. The losers of the world wars were the main participants, especially Europe, their former colonies & Asia which went right into communism. What did Britian Or France win besides huge losses, same for Germany who lost a huge chunk of its nation to the SSR/communism & wasn’t reunited until the late 80’s. Russia/SSR took gigantic losses, the loss of life along with putting an enormous amount of added economic pressure to an already fragile economy. Japan had nuclear bombs dropped on them after they were already defeated. The bombs were dropped mostly as a deterrent to the Soviet Union, the Cold War started before ww2 ended, we should view it as a tragedy.

Yeah, it actually stunned me.

Meh! Zionism was an old English idea but maybe this slip of tongue helped to extend the neo-crusader project to some Jews.

zionism is older than the old testament.

@@sdssdds8415 they had their nation of Israel in the Bronze Age. Then they lost it

The Jewish Temple in Jerusalem was rebuilt with the help of another Persian Shah, Cyros the Great, in the 6th century BC.

@@LuisAldamiz Nah, the Persians were in this way back. Cyrus the Great was a great Zionist of his time. BTW, many conservative Englishmen were pro- Arab, pro Palestine during the 30s.

Those last few sentences say so much

It would make more sense to use the term Iranian, since he himself was not Persian.

What was wrong with the other one?

@@papazataklaattiranimam You just change that everytime to make us look stupid :)

Please don’t perpetuate the wrong name of Persia. It’s always been Iran !

😂

best part is that he tried to separate a jew from his money with no interest only for the welfare of others ! IMAO what great sense of humour these Persians have!

@Boş İşler Müdürü Yes. Sumerians and Egyptians were the first to use alphabets.

@@GrigRP Sumerians and Egyptians were the first to use writing (quite complex cuneiform and hieroglyph scripts), the guys who invented the first simple Alphabet were the Phoenicians.

@@micha2909 True, cannanite and phonecians were the first to use alphabets, not all writing systems are alphabets. Phonecians were also middle eastern.

yeah, the way arabic literature was written translates well to english

@Volition Iskey The way middel eastern literature of old* was written translates well to english

Xerxes' father, Darius, was the first one but, again, in a forcefully arranged visit too and not very welcome by the Greeks.

@@guaycura wait, which part of Greece? Ionia or Greek peninsula?

@@bopeep268 The mainland Greece where first Macedonia and Byzantium were dominated. Later he returned during the First Persian War to punish Athens for its help to the Ionian revolt only to be stopped at Marathon.

@@guaycura wait, are you talking about Darius the Great?

Darius The Great of Achamenid dynasty had a famous Scythian campain which took him all the way to more or less modern Ukrain-Russian border. Also Timur lame,The Persianate Mongol descended ruler of Iran too had massive campains in the Territory of the Golden horde. So our boy Naser Shah is Just the first in modern history.

It's not to describe Europe it general, in common usage it refers to North Western Europeans. We wouldn't call Greeks or Italians farenghi for example.

@@GrigRP good to know! Thank you. Is there a word similiar to rum/romaion still in use to describe southern europeans? And is the word Lech/lechistan used to describe eastern europe?

@@stanisawzokiewski3308 Rum is mostly used in a historical context, we don't really have a catch all for Southern Europeans, just call them with their nationality. For example, Greek = Yunani. Not sure if we have a word for Slav but we call Russians = Roosi

@@GrigRP East Africans call Russians “Roos”

In Morroco western people are called "el gwar" "nsara" and "kafrine bellah"

You're a train guy, arent you?

You're not?

@@leergut858 Yes.🚂

@Herdan I did a tiny bit of reading after this and saw that they went to war not that long before this - that's some interesting context. But he also seemed quite disregarding of the French, which made me wonder if he had any biases against them

Thanks! I am now going to drink a beer.

@@VoicesofthePast YAY

@@VoicesofthePast Cheers mate, enjoy. I'm burning some fine hasheesh while listening myself. Many thanks from across the pond here in 'Murica.

Very similar to the French Prince who calls himself a dolphin

@@ofthecaribbean True, I forgot about that. European royalty and their obsession with sea mammals

Wales =/= whales. They named penguins though.

@@matthewboyle2641 Wales, not whales. As for the "Dauphin" the heir to the throne of France was called thus because of the province of Dauphiné.

@@Xerxes2005 This was intentionally humorous. I understand Wales and Dauphine are places. I just remember thinking prince of Wales was funny when I first heard it as a kid, and wished the Shah also got confused by the homophone

DITTO AHMED, ditto! Praise Jesus Christ 🙏🔥💚

You're welcome 💚💚💚👽👽❤💞💋 Heil Satan!

Bro he wasn’t a Persian , the title “Persian Visitor” is competely wrong , he doesn’t know the difference of Iranian and Persian

@@papazataklaattiranimam while im well aware of the Turkic origins of the ruling family they considered themselves Persian after too long assimilation and intermixing. Similar to how the British nobility are now ethnically British and not Norman anymore.

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 They never considered themselves (especially its founder) Persians, but the mistake Europeans made was to call any state that ruled Iran "persia". Even the name of the state "Qajar" is the name of a Turk tribe. Even Ilkhanates, a Mongol state, was wrongly referred to as Persia by Europeans.

@@papazataklaattiranimam given the Qajars assimilated. It doesn't matter. In analogy what happened to the British monarch happened to the Qajar monarch. It assimilated. Even Biologically influenced. Not the founders. But the 1800s? Yea.

@@papazataklaattiranimam The europians refer to the land of Iran as Persia. Albeit inaccurate even at the time of the ancient Greek, it still applies no matter who rules the land. And our friend here already explained how assimilation works, but I'm sure you are oblivious to it on purpose.

How would you know? For all we can tell, it may be that the only creatures to avoid/survive the hypothetical Great Filter (and then survive the challenges that come next) all regard existence in these kinds of matter-of-fact, "it's a 'kill or be killed' universe" terms. I'll freely admit that this counter-speculation is every bit as invalid and pointless waffle as yours. After all, how would we know?

@@Hurmeri I completely agree with the kill or be killed theory, death is needed inorder for another to survive seems to be a common law throughout the universe. What I was implying though, was the way he's phrasing it sounds like he's unaccustomed to human warfare is all, the only reason I believe it sounds like somthing you would read from an extraterrestrial anthropologists log is the fact that if we were being visited by beings extensively enough for them to be able to catalogue our behaviour, their probably well past the days of voluntarily slaughtering their own species at the least.

I AGREE, incredibly well done and exceptionally narrated and edited! Praise Jesus Christ🙏🔥💚

You didn't even watch it, how would you know?

@@GrigRP Dont b negative brother 🙏🙏👊💚🔥💚 praise Jesus Christ for all those people who seek his glory

@@irishguyjg_2ndchancerecovery It's not negative, she's clearly commenting on videos without even watching them to advertise here channel.

@Ariel Sergio Ramos I'm Iranian, if you have any questions, feel free to ask

they always say how they like it but the people are stuck up and act superior to the rest of europe lol

They are quite an effeminate bunch that's for sure

The French tend to be feminine, yet arrogant.

@@hmmm9658 I mean that's not what he said in the letter here, he just described how the entire nation was pretty much in a state of constant depression, which it was and still is btw. France is still the biggest buyer of anti-depression pills in the world (per person that is). I find that funny that they were already done with all of it even back then lol.

It's still like that

They wrote about this. They saw no reason to go to such a backwater of barbaric ignorance as Europe was at the time.

@@EyeLean5280 Even so, that doesn't stop everyone. We do know Romans would prop up some rival claimiants to the throne sometimes, show them Rome or major cities of the Empire, so it's not like every Persian stopped at the border or the high water mark. We just never got the sources from their view.

I think it means the first modern Persian visitor. We were obviously visiting Greeks and Romans in classical antiquity times.

This is the first ROYAL visitor.

well xerxes tried coming to Greece if that counts as Europe

Never in his wildest nightmares would the shah thought that they would choose Jerusalem of all places to make their nation, I'm pretty sure if they had chosen another place the muslim nations would've been besties with them, after all at that time there were many muslim nations friendly to the jews, Morocco, the ottomans, Persia the main 3 muslim nations of that time.

@@Yanzdorloph Jerusalem of all places is where jews tend to have their states look at history theres no other place for jews

"may have influenced"? they saved judaism (and arguably creation of christianism and islam) by letting the jews have their own religion and temple and letting them go back to judea 530 bc

Well they are trying to undo it now

@@Mitthradata lol Islam and Christianity are from abrahamism that originated long before 2000b.c at least and no one saved Judaism actually jew lived a lavishly live in Babylonia and controlled the most fertile land and why Cyrus treated them well because they helped them to conquer Babylonia and even many of them refused to leave Babylonia

@@sami3566 you obviously have no idea about history in general, what happened to jews in babylon was comparable to ww2, they were slaves treated poorly, most of their men died and those who didn't had their fingers cut off so that they can't fight anymore. Cyrus treated jews like humans and also he let them have a temple because they opened the gates of babylon for cyrus, Christianity is literally a 2.0 version of Judaism, jesus himself was a jew, and islam wouldn't last because if pagans were ruling ERE they together with the sassanids would combine efforts and purge muslims anytime that they could (meaning mecca would ally with the superpowers of the time, they couldn't possibly lose to islam in such scenario)

@@Mitthradata you're a joke nope jew lived a lavishly live in Babylonia even more than Babylonian Iranian are evil barbarian who destroy civilization

Hmm interesting, tell me more please.

shah* i dont know why people cant say shah, its like this: sh as in she a as in all h as in hot

@@Mitthradata It's strange how my dyslexia has this habit of bringing out the same belittling attitude in people? I suffered the same attitude from my English teacher at school, after a year of it they got a Slap! A Slap I bet they still remember to this day! We both learnt something that day, He Learnt To Shut His Mouth And I Learnt That Might Made Me Right! It Sounds to me like you could do with the same life lesson he learnt, Years after I'd been expelled for the incident we happened to be in the same Pub, He was very polite to me and bought me drinks all evening, I like to think it's was down to the lesson he received from me.

Not sure where the irony came in. The Shahs generally had good relationships with Israel. Nor was the idea new: Jews had been buying land in the Levant for many years by that time (including by Montefiore, himself a banker who finance these moves)

@@ja_aq.ov_ His successors today are the greatest enemies of Israel?

​@@RexGalilae When i was reading english wikipedia article about Iran i was also very surprised that they have second biggest population in the middle east of that "greatest enemy"... heh I wonder who is controling western media that they are so far from the truth. ;)

@@Bialy_1 Zionism and Israel aren't the same thing as Judaism. There are Orthodox Jews that openly oppose Israel and Zionism. It's like conflating Islam with ISIS

There wouldn't have such an outrage if the previous inhabitants of the lands the Israels took were treated better, and there may have even been a single nation with both Palestinians and Israelis united, especially if the racist Zionist ideas of only Jews for the promised land didn't exist and some conciliatory efforts with substance was made with the Palestinians. Now the Palestinians only see their rights abused, extreme right Israelis treating them like animals and subhumans, with almost no consequences, not too different to how their ancestors were treated. Will this TRAGIC cycle ever end? Who knows, when politics is involved. Irony indeed my friend

It makes me saddness for the atrocities they will commit in the future to creat and keep that nation

@@Yanzdorloph I Agree, though, I am not fully informed enough to talk confidently about the situation.

@Sanctus Paulus Are we just gonna pretend the last 70years didn't happen ?

Nasser al-Din Shah Qajar loved his cat.

yes

@@mirzaimadbaig8692 he6 Mirza, you should check out my poetry....lol

@@mirzaghalib8659 yes brother 😂

still eating mangoes in heaven i hope

human aspiration never changes

Well, if some rise others must fall.

But equally no fall is inevitable just as no rise is. It's men who make such things. The reasons for collapse are most certainly tangible.

British society is no longer a society because "there is no such thing as society."

@@andeve3 Thats a very postmodern excuse. Shifting the language doesn't change reality, it just warps perception of it.

Shows har far we’ve fallen

@@jnestor481 or maybe how far everywhere else has progressed

At first glance Achaemenid Persia came into my thought, then I noticed it's 1873.

@@mahfuzannan8270 ikr? They did not pass the "man of culture" vibe check

Word

Maybe but they were not exactly in protocolary visit, they made a very bad impression and also they left no diary.

yea better title would be "First persian royal visitors to modern europe"