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First Starlink T-Mobile Cellular Satellites Launched - Broadband in your Pocket Everywhere? 

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SpaceX and T-Mobile first announced this "Coverage Above & Beyond" partnership in Aug 2022, and now 15 months later SpaceX is at last ready to begin testing out and demonstrating this promising new capability.
Earlier this week, the first six test satellites with cellular tower piggybacked payloads launched.
But before you get too excited - this is NOT Starlink broadband beamed from space into your pocket!
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@7techno77
@7techno77 7 месяцев назад
Being able to send a text out an emergency situation is a lifesaver. I don't really expect it to do much past that for now.
@Tmm42s
@Tmm42s 7 месяцев назад
iPhone 14 and 15 already have this, had it for a year
@7techno77
@7techno77 7 месяцев назад
@@Tmm42s That's hardware specific. This would allow older devices to send text.
@RunForPeace-hk1cu
@RunForPeace-hk1cu 6 месяцев назад
@@7techno77wouldn’t pay money for it though . Nice to have
@aday1637
@aday1637 7 месяцев назад
I happened to be privvy to the original GE feasibility study done in 1978 to determine if mobile phone service by way of satelite was possible. Cell towers were a temporary interrim solution for a fast start and to be replaced eventually with satelites. Took long enough. GE sold assets to launch the satelites at the time this study was completed, including its HVAC, small home appliance division etc to facilitate the finance necessary. Not sure what happened to GE's foray into this scheme.
@joen9275
@joen9275 7 месяцев назад
As a kid 20/20 or some show in '78 or '79 showed off a satellite watch phone that was supposed to cost $10 or $20 by the year 1990...the segment of the show took place at Disnry World. I think it was GE that was the company that made the watch. I was only 10yo but it made a lasting impression... 😊
@BK-pc3ei
@BK-pc3ei 7 месяцев назад
Cell towers are better in every way
@stevennelson7518
@stevennelson7518 7 месяцев назад
Technology advances. Starlink cellular ahead.
@Bhanuuday8999
@Bhanuuday8999 7 месяцев назад
I think OFC cables got more advanced and cheaper but satellite launches only got costlier till SpaceX
@Tmm42s
@Tmm42s 7 месяцев назад
Satellite will never replace cell towers, satellite is only for areas with no mobile coverage. To get capacity you need many towers ever x miles
@utahiker
@utahiker 7 месяцев назад
I solo camp and hike in the Utah desert. Typically no cell service. I was excited with iPhone SOS. Even more so about T-Mobile/Spacex. This will be a game changer, possibly life saver for me.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, you're like the perfect target customer. You'll be able to send non emergency texts to people from remote places.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
This is exactly the use case that this technology is so exciting for!
@andreykirchev32
@andreykirchev32 7 месяцев назад
What are you doing in the middle of the f***ing desert 😂 ?
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 7 месяцев назад
They have had satellite you can talk/text over for over 20 years. Can't believe it's taken this long to get it working with cell phones. I would think they would have a pretty good idea of what to do at this point. Problem is coverage for the masses. There are also several devices that have been offering text by satellite for the last few years. Thanks for the update!
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
All of the current satellite communicators are talking to satellite frequency waves and is different technology than cellular. This is basically a cellular tower in the sky using a long range T-Mobile frequency band.
@Bwanar1
@Bwanar1 7 месяцев назад
I understand, but you can actually talk over the existing SAT phones. That isn't an option yet with long range cell band yet. And texting ends up a draw, I would assume. @@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
The big win with this new tech is that it works with existing phones - no special hardware required. A few companies have tried integrating legacy satellite messaging into cell phones, but it makes for an expensive and clunky phone. Direct to Cell avoids those tradeoffs.
@bomilvang
@bomilvang 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, hadn't heard of this! I am looking forward to this technology becoming globally available in a few years. At the moment, when I go hiking I bring a Garmin inReach satellite (text) communicator. I'd also like to have a satellite phone, but an Iridium Extreme with airtime just seems a bit too expensive
@LiberadoJabano
@LiberadoJabano 6 дней назад
I want a portable pocket wifi linked directly on starlink satellite. I had it before in Asia, but the signal and speed did fluctuate. I wish starlink will come up with it soon!
@BeardedBeta
@BeardedBeta 6 месяцев назад
It’s a good start. Give it a year or two and it will be great!
@kensoutham6828
@kensoutham6828 7 месяцев назад
How this different than the Apple 14/15 capability for there emergency satellite link in North America? Seems to be a similar type service if text only to start. Perhaps it will replace my Garmin InReach that I currently use for satellite non emergency communications (and primary for emergency use) when out of cell range.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Apple's is currently just using their SOS operator via TXT messenger - and of course, only available on those specific models. T-Mobile & Starlink's approach will enable TXT messaging and eventually low bandwidth activity on all models of phones out there for T-Mobile customers.
@parler8698
@parler8698 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for the clarification.
@ichiryoka88
@ichiryoka88 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for more detailed information
@DStrayCat69
@DStrayCat69 7 месяцев назад
Thanks from Canada... This make a lot more sense than I was expecting. I'm curious how it will work with the Tesla Phone...??? Those are supposed to have Internet from Day One... Apparently those phones connect directly to the Internet at 5G... Correct me if I'm wrong :-) Thanks
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
The Tesla Pi Phone was a joke rumor started outside of SpaceX.. here's our story covering that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DlGsDAW_eEY.html
@who2u333
@who2u333 7 месяцев назад
If I can get text and/or voice in remote locations, that is all I need.
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31
@v1-vr-rotatev2-vy_vx31 7 месяцев назад
T-Mobile needs to do something to improve the service first two years I had it was excellent the past two years it has not been good...
@madhankumar2051
@madhankumar2051 3 месяца назад
The possibility is endless we may not even need a mobile phone. a small device with power for few months that can keep sending my gps location automatically vis text will be so helpful to prevent people from getting lost
@Joes-Adventures71
@Joes-Adventures71 7 месяцев назад
If it can take the place of a Garmin in reach then I'm excited.
@ryshask
@ryshask 7 месяцев назад
details start at 2:15. Looking forward to this service! I have SOS on my iphone 14 pro max. The only reason I updated from an iphone 13.
@muhammadsyarif3985
@muhammadsyarif3985 2 месяца назад
Can't wait
@techzone2009
@techzone2009 7 месяцев назад
May be in future, They will able to provide data and call.
@CRYPTONOW1
@CRYPTONOW1 7 месяцев назад
That Will be Better than Verizon Because Alot of Fox Saying that Verizon Have the Best Coverage
@Drew-ql3gq
@Drew-ql3gq 5 месяцев назад
Cool phone case😎
@davebhojwani9120
@davebhojwani9120 4 месяца назад
Very informative
@nsn27
@nsn27 2 месяца назад
Does this mean no roaming fees anymore? Since I can be connected to the MNO network from anywhere in the world where my phone can reach the satellite?
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 2 месяца назад
Details of how it will all work billing wise have yet to be disclosed.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 2 месяца назад
FYI - Starlink's direct-to-cellular architecture requires gaining partnerships and spectrum rights from terrestrial carriers in every location they operate on the ground. So international roaming will still require the carriers to cut deals with each other. Depending on the deals the carriers cut with each other - roaming fees for international data may still be just as likely as before.
@nsn27
@nsn27 2 месяца назад
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thank you for the additional info!
@JamesMcGillis
@JamesMcGillis 7 месяцев назад
Zoleo and Garmin already have satellite text messaging in conjunction with a current smartphone. A Zoleo is $200, plus $20/mo. for a basic monthly plan. SOS is included.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Indeed - there are already many satellite communicators on the market that rely on special hardware. What is new is the ability to communicate directly to a normal phone, no special hardware required.
@eaaepro
@eaaepro Месяц назад
How much does it cost? Can you use data for the internet using direct to cell? Thank you
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter Месяц назад
They have not yet enabled the service - so pricing is unknown. And this will initially likely just be text messaging.
@eaaepro
@eaaepro Месяц назад
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter okay thank you looking forward for the next update.
@Drew-ql3gq
@Drew-ql3gq 5 месяцев назад
Cool thanks 😊
@cabracove
@cabracove 7 месяцев назад
Hey, being able to send a text on the Alcan would be huge
@btrue2day
@btrue2day 6 месяцев назад
Huawei latest phones already can do satellite cellular
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 6 месяцев назад
Huawei is doing satellite reception in partnership with China Telecom, and the most recently announced Mate 60 model is claimed to be able to support both satellite voice calls and SMS. But this satellite coverage is only available in China - which is not a market we cover.
@peejae082004
@peejae082004 7 месяцев назад
Will this eventually phase out services like Garmin emergency SMS?
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Having satellite messaging built into phones will make messengers like the Garmin inReach even more niche. Probably similar to how phones have replaced separate cameras and even flashlights for most people.
@EarlBalentine
@EarlBalentine 7 месяцев назад
I imagine they will still leave a few cell towers operational in major cities for an emergency backup?
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
The entire existing T-Mobile terrestrial network will remain - this is only adding coverage in places they don't currently have towers.
@Bhanuuday8999
@Bhanuuday8999 7 месяцев назад
We aren't anywhere close to that happening, it could be only when the mobile is directly aiming at satellites with no obstacles, and the bandwidth could be slow, allowing only for SOS, and text messaging. Also the current starlink network with 5000+ satellites is unable to provide a 100% stable service just for a few million starlink receivers, imagine covering 100 million mobiles with starlink.
@krank3682
@krank3682 7 месяцев назад
Great in an emergency
@DarkvoltSilver778-cl7iq
@DarkvoltSilver778-cl7iq 7 месяцев назад
If they are going to use data, LTE calls and messages with Starlink, it would not be that all of that fails because the system is in beta version and in testing according to reddit blogs on the internet and when there will be Starlink Cell in alpha version without failures, I would like you to talk about the subject. in a podcast 1 hour and in a video talking about the topic 30 minutes
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
If you'd like to book us on your podcast, please do be in touch via our contact e-mail - info@rvmobileinternet.com
@ultimatemanny
@ultimatemanny 6 месяцев назад
Hi im looking for a satellite phone so i can use in the Caribbean or South America to make calls and text what do you recommend me?
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 6 месяцев назад
We only track mobile internet options, not phone.
@jamesnicholls9969
@jamesnicholls9969 7 месяцев назад
it seems that the FCC have been delaying and putting road blocks to slow this down, me thinks the legacy communication companies have been having words with the FCC to try to disrupt SpaceX from being the first, seeing as they all missed the boat with LEO satellite broadband
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
The FCC has actually been moving pretty fast on these licenses. SpaceX hasn’t had to delay anything, yet. The biggest delay SpaceX has faced was needing to develop a backup plan to launch Direct to Cell on Falcon 9 initially because Starship is late.
@trondialsingh594
@trondialsingh594 7 месяцев назад
Starship is late because the fcc been delaying it​@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@FrancoCastro
@FrancoCastro 7 месяцев назад
being able to send an sms would be more than enough for this to be useful. Imagine you are a doctor and be able to receive SMS that you need to come back or be able to send information about something.
@andrewmeitner4818
@andrewmeitner4818 7 месяцев назад
Hi Chris, Please tell me how you lost weight. You look great!
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Thanks... diet & exercise. Here's our post on our personal channel where we recently shared our fitness journey: www.technomadia.com/2023/12/our-fitness-journey-goal-geeks-avoiding-being-called-couch-potatoes/
@malone1todd
@malone1todd 7 месяцев назад
A phone does not have a big enough antenna gain for full satellite features. Text only is really low bandwidth
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
That’s the beauty of this approach - it’s being transmitted over cellular frequency bands riding along on the satellite so that most phones on the market can use it.
@david78212
@david78212 7 месяцев назад
Satellite phones aren’t really all that great, there are places and circumstances where it just doesn’t work. As a “fill in the gap” device maybe. As a sailor, we already have Sail Mail and that has massive limits and Starlink is already working their ass of to eliminate using their service on sailboats without the purchase of a “special” equipment and a “special” plan, both are over 3 times as much as the regular equipment and plan. They’re usefulness to people on sailboats is becoming limited and the clock is about to run out, most people have a budget and 3 times the price isn’t in there.
@coolunusual
@coolunusual 7 месяцев назад
Didn't think something like that would be possible. I guess this leapfrogs the whole satellite connectivity in phones and explains why they dropped the project so quickly on top of it not being so feasible.
@horrormaster574
@horrormaster574 7 месяцев назад
Network operations , field technicians, RF engineers, Development and managers better get their resumes ready. They will cut the workforce more than half once this gets up and running.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
This will not be a replacement for existing or future terrestrial based cellular - which will always have broadband level capacity.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Working on a cell network that shares spectrum and integrates with satellite is actually going to increase overall RF and network complexity - so I don’t think mass layoffs are coming to the carriers anytime soon.
@horrormaster574
@horrormaster574 6 месяцев назад
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I have men in the cellular communications field for 26 years, trust me that's where it's heading. Yes there will be towers still here but not all, they will decommission a lot. Site builds will diminish to almost nothing.
@petemisc4291
@petemisc4291 7 месяцев назад
Doesn’t your cell phone need a different antenna to reach that satellite?
@licencetoswill
@licencetoswill 7 месяцев назад
no, they use the same frequency.
@petemisc4291
@petemisc4291 7 месяцев назад
@@licencetoswill it’s not the frequency that I’m referring to, the satellite is a lot further than any cell tower so the antenna would need to be larger and or have more power
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
That is what is exciting about Direct to Cell - it uses a gigantic antenna on the satellite to be able to reach out to normal unmodified small antenna cell phones.
@ObamaoZedong
@ObamaoZedong 7 месяцев назад
Antenna size is based on hertz not watts.
@peterwilkinson1975
@peterwilkinson1975 7 месяцев назад
7mb's isnt horrible. 1080p streaming is 5mb so thats decent.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
That's 7 Mbps shared across a several hundred mile area with everyone in that area. Each user would only have a tiny slice of that spectrum. This is not for streaming video.
@peterwilkinson1975
@peterwilkinson1975 7 месяцев назад
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter oh really ok, I thought you meant 7mb but they were only allowing texting. I mean hopefully they can increase the bandwidth to where you can do things like that. I wonder how this works? Like you would think it would take a lot more power for the cellphone to communicate with a satellite that’s way further away than a cell tower. I guess if they were super low frequency, so u get the range but u have the bandwidth limitations that come with it.
@ElliotMessage
@ElliotMessage 7 месяцев назад
For the past 2 years T-Mobiles download speed was slowing down 5 mbps Humboldt county California Rio Dell, Eureka, Fortuna, Arcata Vally West area. Horrible. Magenta max priority plan for $95 they slowed us down and we promised priority data speed unlimited. No cap limit. Lied. Count me in for a complaint..
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Many things can impact cellular data performance, here's our guide: www.rvmobileinternet.com/performance
@yellowtail9999
@yellowtail9999 5 месяцев назад
Cellphone companies monopoly much?
@CubbyTech
@CubbyTech 7 месяцев назад
No such thing as 4G - It's LTE
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
4G=LTE. They are used interchangeably.
@sweetsuccesstrading5097
@sweetsuccesstrading5097 7 месяцев назад
A Hybrid of Cellular and Satellite would be more Useful.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 7 месяцев назад
I'm not sure what you mean by that... Because that's basically what this is. If your Tmobile phone loses connections with cell towers, it'll connect to the satellites instead so you can still send & text messages. Anything more than text messages requires a big antenna. Even iridium phones have a huge flip up antenna.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Hybrid solutions are indeed the only way satellite to cell will ever prove practical. That is why SpaceX has partnered with T-Mobile, and AT&T is partnered with AST Space Mobile. Verizon is also likely going to partner with Amazon’s Project Kuiper satellites.
@mwngw
@mwngw 7 месяцев назад
Does this mean the downfall of the tower industry is inevitable?
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Not at all.. this is will not provide broadband level speeds. It's just to fill in gaps where it's not practical to build towers for basic communication.
@friendoftellus5741
@friendoftellus5741 7 месяцев назад
😊❤🛰️🎁
@Danstaafl
@Danstaafl 7 месяцев назад
okay I'm sorry but.. how many satellites again so I can do SMS only? y'all smokin' better stuff than I got.. That's what I think.. too bad.. I have too many trees around me for starlink. Bet I can hit a geosynchronous for cheap soon tho.. Elon ain't getting a dime from me.
@pooh4519
@pooh4519 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure that will keep him awake at night!
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 7 месяцев назад
If you can't get Starlink from your location because of the tree coverage, then chances are extremely slim you'll just happen to be in the right orientation to peek through a hole in the canopy and hit some underrated geo sat, regardless of what Hughes is saying.
@Danstaafl
@Danstaafl 7 месяцев назад
@@5thGenNativeTexan Nobody said nothing about Hughes. I hate them. But I used to install wild blue out in Wyoming.. can't remember what they changed their name to but maybe.. depends on the inclination from up here in WA State.. idk.. maybe..
@bogtrotter5110
@bogtrotter5110 7 месяцев назад
I don't get it. Why would I need this? I have Starlink and can make calls over the internet with my iPhone.
@aday1637
@aday1637 7 месяцев назад
I think the difference is you wouldn't need starlink for this to work, when it's completed. Just your phone would do. It would probably be a proprietary phone sold by whoever was running the show, though, perhaps Starlink itself.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 7 месяцев назад
Did you guys watch the video? This is a partnership with T-Mobile to allow any 4g / 5g phone with T-Mobile service to send basic text messages from remote areas. No special hardware. It's designed for people in remote areas with just their phone, and is to be competitive with the iPhone version which is currently emergency-only. This would let you send social texts not just emergency ones.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
Indeed - no new phone needed. Almost all existing 4G phones will be compatible, if they have the right service plan.
@ObamaoZedong
@ObamaoZedong 7 месяцев назад
I'll never switch to Tmobile because of their flagrant 1st amendment violations.
@MichaelWilliams80995
@MichaelWilliams80995 2 месяца назад
What do you mean?
@pooh4519
@pooh4519 7 месяцев назад
Deal breaker....you must be outside to get a signal !!!
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 7 месяцев назад
Which is exactly the point of this. You're out somewhere remote.... camping, hiking, driving, whatever, and you have an issue and need to make a connection. This will allow you to do that. If you're expecting to be sitting in your RV or cabin or whatever in some remote location, then you'd be using an actual Starlink dish to make the connection.
@pooh4519
@pooh4519 7 месяцев назад
@@5thGenNativeTexan Well I am sure T-mobile will be thrilled with the prospect of all those millions of people having issues that need a text message.
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 7 месяцев назад
​@@pooh4519 this is only for remote areas where there isn't any cell service at all, not places with towers. "having to go outside the cabin" is a lot better than "no cell service unless you drive 20 miles into town". This isn't designed to replace a huge starlink dish and router.
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 7 месяцев назад
@@pooh4519 Beyond it's initial use, I actually do think that a cell provider would be thrilled to say their phones have connectivity literally almost anywhere in the world. If I'm any kind of outdoor enthusiast, traveler, etc, and I have a choice of a phone provider that not only works on the traditional land-based network, but also allows me to send and receive messages from anywhere, then you can be sure I'll choose that cell provider.
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
If you're traveling in an area with out cellular coverage and need to get a message out, we seriously doubt anyone will consider stepping outside to send that message a 'deal breaker'.
@BK-pc3ei
@BK-pc3ei 7 месяцев назад
Cell towers are better in every way
@MobileInternetResourceCenter
@MobileInternetResourceCenter 7 месяцев назад
If there are cell towers.. for sure. But this is meant for places where there are not cell towers.
@johniccia6175
@johniccia6175 6 месяцев назад
Goodbye Apple enjoyers with there satellite calls and whatever
@Jorge_V_
@Jorge_V_ 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! We now have internet in our small town 🥹
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