The video is not clear on what this does or doesn't do, can it voice call, and watch youtube? If not, you should make that very clear and the video is misleading.
I am 100% making that, and I'm adding speech to text; also text to speech for when people respond. Should I integrate noise cancellation into the vape unit? There's a sentence you don't see every day lol but it's an opportunity for RISCV to create a tiny market slice, too small to even be niche but enough for a single dev to make some $$$ without paying asinine royalties to capital/investment management companies, which own all the really good commercial tools at this point.
@dieselphiend my point is, for such a business critical service, you would want to expect some degree of central authority to impose a set of rules and, specially, a "good enough" availability service levels. Hence, there would need to exist, at least, an enterprise grade mesh (which private users may end up prefering as well, due to better QoS) Eventually, at least 1 private organization would be laying down these setups over countries, in order to ensure service coverage. Et voilà! You have ISPs again. There are existing, and actually old, technologies to provide cheap service across small areas, such as Wi-Fi long range links, private cell phone repeaters... which a single individual could try and rig over his/her community. Therefore. Why do we even need this? To use for simple messaging over some specific locked app/protocol which apparently does not support any sort of high bandwidth usages. I see really niche usecase for this product. Basically, is sort of like a off-the-grid communication tool, only that you are still in a grid (some one else's), unless you crawl your way through this thing source code and actually have an isolated setup, if you are paranoid or a criminal. Still, you could do the same (private network mesh) with existing technology in much simpler ways. Hence. Why?
french already did this. Take a look at their country side. Some supermarkets do exist but their main selling products are chemicals and products that you can't produce at home, majority of food is from local farmers. Quality food, similar price.
Exactly. There comes a point where peer to peer is not enough on its own and will have to be interconnected with a bigger system such as the internet, cellular service, satellite systems, or landline phone connections.
@@FrostCraftedMC but it is using low frequencies so only so much bandwidth it can have. If you wanted to send pictures or videos, you would have a hard time. If more people get on it, it will actually congest the network even more
If disposable vape manufacturers started including these LoRa chips in those new full color display vapes and gaming vapes we would have a robust national and possibly international wireless mesh network within days.
@@jamess1787 "Who calls these days?" I would say hundreds of millions worldwide. What I'm able to arrange by call in one minute, you will be typing like an ldiot half an hour.
God I wish you would stop overselling the crap out of every product, project or video you cover/produce. It is tiresome and makes your content, which can be actually pretty entertaining/informative, hard to watch. So over the top every time, disingenuous and just plain tacky. Just be real man. People will love it. This click bait RU-vid marketing brain is just getting shameful at this point. Just showcase what you've got, it's awesome without the fluff! You make good content! Let it stand on its own without the crap. You don't need it like others do!
It only bothers me when i fall for it by only watching what grabs my attention via thumbnail. I try not to let the “ phone killer “ algorithm nonsense be the reason I watch. I try to either watch videos from creators I already trust where the subject matter fits to my interests or I look at videos out of simple curiosity knowing that even when I don’t like the video I still try to find something to learn from it. If all else fails I just stop watching it, without regrets, knowing that I’m actually curating my feed by cutting the video short, this lets the algorithm know I didn’t like the video. I’ve never seen his videos but I recognized the tech that’s why I’m here.
No, this one "plugs" into a network of all other devices that do this and sends the packets over it. You don't have to be close to the other node, they don't even have to connect to each other. They just have to "see" somebody else in the meshtastic network. It's basically the internet, but off the internet. Using a different technology which has soooooo much more range than wi-fi, but it's super slow because of it. Great for text, or sensors sending data. You can also install a more powerful version of this on your roof and basically become a "cell tower" for people near you, to give back to the community
@@FAB1150 So as soon as everyone gets one of these it'll be useful. Until then it's a walki-talki. Also, it doesn't do voice as far as I can see, and definitely isn't doing web browsing of any kind, which is one of the main things people use their phones for at this point. So it's a shitty beeper at this point with no one using it.
It's a myth, meshtastic doesn't work in the woods, so if your in the desert, you might be in luck but if there's trees or mountains, your better off using a messenger pigeon
Being a Meshtastic user myself, i believe it is overated. You are limited by the number of nodes and your recipient need a node themselves. The range is not as good, also. Sure you can upgrade your antenna, later on the battery, tinker a lot for what? One text message. Please stop these videos, i thibk you're overstating the Meshtastic network ...
to right gives it a bad name makes it into a joke sound like the compression is not its use case i was thinking a grate way to communicating with smart Nodes withe no need for internet connection
Yeah.. without a massive coverage i can't see this competing with anything. Like someone already commented - this technology should be implemented into an actual phone device and not the separate device, it should also work as a hotspot to provide mesh infrastructure with phones nearby which do not have this technology. The security risk is massive, every connection should be encrypted and terminated if another device intercepts it.
@@joshuachubb9397 I don't think control is the right term for this. Its only partially about being semi anonymous and more about independent infrastructure which works without the need of infrastructure from some service provider. If being able to use your phone and communicate with people is what you need, then you can just use existing services and it's fine. More so if frequencies can be easily intercepted by the third party, then you have same or even less amount of control for your anonymity. So what we are left with is the cost. If you are planing to use it on your isolated from the world farm walkie-talkie might be cheaper option.
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10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
Seems to be good technology for emergency situations. I live in New Orleans, La where we have frequent cell outtages during hurricane season and festivals like Mardi Gras. Maybe even good for off grid living/ tech homesteading/ compound living.
This is how excited Id be to play with toy walkie talkies. As a kid, hype af. Nothing compared to the power of phones though. Phones control our way of life. Its more than just calls and texts lol.
@joshuachubb9397 yeah Phones are definitely a double edged sword. It's nice to fantasize about the way of life before they blew into the forefront of our very existence, but I think it's unrealistic to speculate a world without them anymore. At least in the modernized societies, we've grown so dependent on the constant stimulation, it's difficult to imagine that people in today's age would let that technology go, as nice as it is to wish for at times for the sake of our community and even sanity
The biggest fear factor isn't the phones themselves but the minds behind the engineering companies, producing hardware and software to consume our humanity for the sake of short lived pleasure. We put so much energy into this digital life that when we try to engage in our physical reality, there's minimal interest from most involved in the digital dystopia. There will come resolution but I'm not sure how or whether it will happen in our lifetime.
For national parks, assuming that a mesh like service coverage area could be made for it for continuous service, these could hypothetically solve some issues for the campers in that area if they need to get in contact with emergency services, or even the forestry service wanting to talk amongst themselves. That being said, there have been no videos to suggest these can function that way.
so? do you really constant communication if cell service goes down? you just keep about with your day until they're back up. Unless you're on an expedition where cell service doesnt exist, in which case, get a fucking walkie talkie. They're a fraction of the price, have batteries that can be swapped, and don't rely on the function of another device to be useful.
Pretty cool reuse for 900 mHz frequencies. I'd like to see signal tests of the unit outside the carbon fiber printed case. Carbon fiber can affect the capability of the antenna to send and receive.
Incorporating SDR with laser links is next. It would be a great experiment for cities beaming information to your neighbor. Use solar panels for a laser receiver.
Imagine this in reverse. So we’ve picked up this device today. It can text, make calls, do video, browse the internet, call anyone anywhere in the world, and you don’t need line of sight. I dunno…. Seems like phones win.
@@pauls5745 it’s not as if you can’t listen in on radio transmissions, likely more easily. Encryption solves this. Encryption exists on both devices. Not saying you can’t use these radios for specific use cases, but it’s hard to see how you escape from the sheer utility of a phone, which already saturated the market.
@@ValTek_Armory and the network falls over if too many people connect as the same messages get repeated by everyone in the node they bounce around like Pachinko balls
In emergency situations, handheld radios like GMRS, ham, and CB radios are far more reliable than enclosed mesh systems. These radios are robust, can survive EMPs, and don’t rely on any external infrastructure. In the event of an EMP, your smartphone and other modern electronics are likely to be fried, but handheld radios, especially when turned off, are much less likely to be affected. While the Meshtastic device may offer encrypted communication, in a real emergency, you want to be in communication with as many people as possible. The Meshtastic device is essentially a glorified enclosed mesh system, and similar functionality can be found in free apps available on app stores. For serious emergency preparedness, traditional handheld radios are the way to go.
WARNING!! some of the developers/mods on the meshtastic discord are ban crazy. if you try to help people by awnsering their questions you will get banned.
Why would you want to regress technology. Your phone can do more than this. A walkie talkie can do more than this. What's the point? You couldn't even text your spouse when you're at work unless you work right down the street from your house.
In the early 2000's they said mesh networking was going to eliminate cell towers and give free Internet to everybody, that was 24 years ago and I'm still waiting. Lora has very limited bandwidth, it can send information such large distances because the data is slimmed down. It's useful for getting sensor data from the top of a mountain, but you'll never be able to make a call on it.
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10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
I am sure there is no danger from radiation, toting around a mini cell tower, they are working on mini Nuke reactors too, we will be glowing here soon.
LoRA /Wan is a different radio spectrum and power output. Building it into the phone may be possible, as it would work like Satellite connections, a separate software/hardware to normal cellular traffic. It needs bluetooth, a battery, and two antennas. Putting this into a smaller container would defeat the purpose as the antenna (and battery) needs to be large to make it efficient over distances. Sending a photo over LoRA would be difficult. URLs and web links, not that difficult. GPS updates, links, yes. So it can be used to send tracking or other things. Remote sensors. Temps. Motion. Locations. keystrokes. etc. It can also sync between apps, add new people via invites or in-person authorisation QR codes, et al. So you don't have strangers on the same chat group. it works over miles, because it's repeating/meshing what's already on the same radio, rebroadcasting to make it louder, sic. It also can't bill or track users with an ID, so if you drop out of the network, it can't store messages or forward them over LAN/WiFi or SMS/GSM/4G/5G networks. Unless you build that into the program you use, to give you an ID to contact with, i.e. using LoRAWAN to relay messages. It's a bit like a wide-area bluetooth. When you disconnect, it won't really help find you again. If the network mesh drops out, you have to start over.
Interesting technology that could be very useful in certain situations but I would be amiss if I didn't point out that with the requirements It needs to work, it sounds like that device would work perfectly in a 15 minute city until the government doesn't want it to.
Ok now picture this, the phone you have has a built in walkie talky for calling and the LoRa network for texting built in. The phones have a built in relay system for passthrough messages but only saves the messages that comes from friends and family that you added to your contacts. It feels seamless to the user to use. Then your communications can be divided into local and global. global being cellular and data. Local with walkie talky networks a LoRa. The walky talky network could also be configured over a hidden secondary LoRa connection just to pack the call into a non interference encrypted digital connection. Looking at the secondary LoRa connection would just look like a bunch of computer code if placed in the primary LoRa texting app.
This is a great solution for the masses in one party/autocratic countries (i.e. China, Bangladesh, Iran) where communications are heavily controlled by the government.
This is a very interesting device/ technology. I think it could actually be a potentially useful tool for my family as we travel a lot out of county, and out of urban areas. the though of a portable network system is really exciting...
Let’s be real here, this won’t replace strategically positioned phone towers. However, I see great potential here for Festival and outdoor adventure communication within a group of friends which is almost always a problem. I’ll definitely keep an eye on that :)
It's not going to replace cell phones but I can see where it would be usable. Such as group communication if you are in the middle of the woods camping or if multiple cars are traveling down a secluded highway. The range of these devices is going to be limited by the antenna. It's like ham radio. The better the antenna the longer the communication. A roof or pole-mounted external antenna with db gain should drastically improve the range of this device. So you can have one device at the house with a roof-mounted antenna and then a second device in your car with a nmo style antenna mounted on the roof of the car. I wonder how many "fars" they could talk to each other. Personally I have not used the 900mhz band for direct radio to radio communication but where I live a lot of public safety agencies use the state-wide VIPER radio system. It's mostly 800mhz range and it does great as long as the user is not too far away from a VIPER tower. The 800mhz portables transmit on 3 watts of power and have a few miles of range and our mobile (vehicle-mounted) radios have 35 watts of power and can go 20-40 miles. I am glad to see communication technology that is innovating like this one. If these little "radios" can be connected to cell towers and use them in like a daisy chain these devices would be absolutely amazing. Thank you for posting about these. I would love to see some real-world range testing performed.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
I can see how this is gonna take off, for parents staying connected with their kids as a backup safety feature. But "phone killer"... I doubt it. People can't leave the house or get into bed without their bloody phones nowadays 🥴
Make it plug and play where you don't have to download eight different software and firmware updates and drivers and select twelve different settings and programming steps to get it to work and it might actually catch on.