Kanye ruined a really big moment (VMA awards) for Taylor when she was 19 and basically humiliated her by getting up on stage as she was accepting her award and telling her she didn't deserve it. Then years later, he set her up, recorded a phone conversation and Kim released an edited version that made her out to be a liar and caused the entire world to start calling Taylor a fake and a liar and she was basically ruthlessly dragged for years, until someone in the Kimye camp released the unedited version that proved Taylor was right all along. However the psych damage to Taylor was already done, she was wrecked emotionally, but she came back with Reputation (there wouldn't have been Rep if there hadn't been Kimye) so Kim tried to destroy her, but provided the building blocks for a great comeback.
Daaammm so started from Kanye. But I thought they made up cause Kanye had a convo with her even tho he lied and when wanted to put the line in his song. “I still think me and Taylor can still have sex, I made that bitch famous “. And they tried to pin it on her saying she gave him the ok but he left out the bitch part and all that lmaoooo. I swear Kanye is a piece of work
@@UglyaceEnt yup In "Look what you made me do' she says "You said the gun was mine'. I've always took that to mean she was supposed to have the power to decide if the song was to be released or not.
"We tried to forget it, but we just couldn't And I bury hatchets but I keep maps of where I put 'em Reputation precedes me, they told you I'm crazy I swear I don't love the drama, it loves me" -End Game 🐍 "There I was, giving you a second chance But you stabbed me in the back while shakin' my hand" -This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things 🐍 "And therein lies the issue, friends don't try to trick you Get you on the phone and mind-twist you And so I took an axe to a mended fence" -This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things🐍 Some quotes from reputation album referencing the Kanye reconciliation and betrail.
@@UglyaceEnthi if u ever get the chance to watch Taylor's Ms Americana u will see the full story of how this call really went and how it truly affected Taylor. She was cancelled. She disappeared for a year. And all the time Kim and kayne lied and edited that tape to make it something it wasn't. Then if it's not bad enough the video and she even shows Jaynes crazy concert were everyone is calling out Taylor. There are also other things u will see in this documentary that Kayne pulled. Oh and the "🐍" reference was what Kim tweeted that Taylor was during the phone call. That's when Taylor switched it up and came back with the rep tour cause I don't think that was the plan. But I get it. Def watch Ms Americana. I think I will appreciate it. 👏😊
To put it bluntly, Taylor is too classy, too smart and frankly way too far above any of these people for them to matter. She forgave him publicly, supported him publicly, wrote a beautiful and very empathetic song about him (called Innocent), and he and his gash of a wife continued to tear her down to the point that she had to disappear for a year. But she came back with Reputation, so fuck all of them. You should watch Miss Americana.
Thank you for saying it the way you did! She’s so much better than them in every way. Kim should have apologized years ago but she has no class and she’s a coward.
Everyone gave great history. One thing left out - Kim has never apologized for her part in what went down. Her response when someone mentions it to her are things like “I’m over it” or “T.S should move on”. Kim does not get to tell Taylor what to feel or when to get over what she did.
After the edited phone call Taylor actually left the country for a year, she thought her career was over because all the hate and people calling her a lying snake. Her song Cassandra is also about that situation
So I'll give the whole run down. It started when Taylor won Female Video of the Year at the 2009 VMAs and Kanye ran up on stage basically saying that she didn't deserve it because Beyonce(B did win the Video of the year later on at the award show and asked for Taylor to finish her speech) deserves it. Taylor later stated when the crowd started booing, she thought they were booing at her. They weren't but it impacted her for years. Even so she never said a bad thing about Kanye and even wrote a song called "innocent" from her Fearless album sympathizing with Kanye for all the backlash HE received. It's a sweet song saying, "people makes mistakes and you are human and it's ok." Years later they made up and all was forgiven. She even presented Kanye (he asked her to do it) with the Micheal Jackson video Vanguard award and made fun of the 2009 VMAs. Later on Kanye comes out with his song "Famous" whos video had a naked Taylor on it and calling her names. He received major backlash. Cause Taylor said she didn't approve the song before hand. On KUWTK Kim says she's done with people criticizing her husband and release a illegally recorded convo between Kanye and Taylor on Snapchat which makes it seems that Taylor "lied" and the whole world exploded. SN: during this time I was a major Swiftie and even told people, " mmmm this seems sketch. Kim is shady as hell, I'm team Taylor F*** the haters". Lol stayed true to my girl Ok. So back to the Internet exploding. The "hashtag Taylor Swift is over party" (I refuse to make it an actual hashtag but words were all together) started trending #1 on all social media. Taylor came out with a message basically saying. That convo was illegally recorded. That's not how the conversation happened. So much is missing. I didn't want to be part of this narrative. I don't want to be part of this drama. Even so, she was torn apart. Kim came out on Twitter saying something like, "it's national snake day, they come out with holidays about anyone oh I mean anything". Basically calling Taylor a snake. All of Taylor's socials become bombarded with the 🐍 snake emoji. She's trolled and hated. Taylor left the country, we all think London, for a full year and went into hiding. No one heard from her. She comes back strong with the Reputation album and one main song that stick out is "Look what you made me do", especially the line "I don't like your tilted stage" because at that time Kanye had the tour with a stage above everyone's head that tilts. Her bad a** era started. She did not hold back. It's why she now embraces the snake 🐍 emoji. She owned that shit. Obviously they will never make up. Even so Taylor was still considered a Snake even though she was growing back up in her popularity and that album was amazing. She kept making hit albums with Lover. In March 2020 the full, unedited conversation came out between Kanye and Taylor from someone on Kim's team. Maybe a disgruntled exemployee, they say. It proved all along that Taylor was saying the truth. THE WHOLE TIME, EVERYTHING!!! It vindicated Taylor. Sadly Kim got away with it. Now that thanK you aiMEe came out, Kim is getting her due. At the Tom Brady roast Kim was booed hard at the Live Special. Of course Netflix edited it out but we all saw it. Also on this album Cassandra is also about Kim. One good line from it, "The family, the pure greed, the Christian chorus line They all said nothing Blood's thick but nothing like a payroll Bet they never spared a prayer for my soul" is how all the Kardashians and Kanye try to paint themselves as good Christians and even make churches but not one of them came out with the truth when they all knew it. So check out that song. Ok I might have missed a few points but this is basically the jist.
I don't even care who the players are or what's the actual history, this is a brilliant song about wounds, healing, hate, and forgiveness. The one who forgives, takes a broader view, is the one who gains. And that's a lesson we all can learn from. Taylor being deep and brilliant and catchy all at once, as usual.
I agree. It’s not always about a specific person or event. Taylor will never speak on any of it so it’s silly to think anyone knows the subject.never speak on it. It’s all a guessing game but that can be fun. Just not reality.
OG Swiftie here! Here’s my thoughts. This all started back in 2009 when Kanye interrupted Taylor’s VMA speech. She was 19 at the time and he was a 32 year old grown ass man. He humiliated her, but she had the emotional growth to forgive him. She even wrote a song about it called Innocent on her self-written album Speak Now (she wrote the album between ages 18-20.) They were friendly again and on good terms. Taylor’s album 1989 (the original, not T.V.) came out in October 2014, so the end of 2014 and all of 2015 Taylor was at the peak of her career at that time. In January 2016 the Kanye and Taylor recorded phone call took place. Taylor said she didn’t give Kanye permission to call her “that bitch” in his song and claimed she couldn’t approve of a song she never heard. Kim edited the video claiming that Taylor gave Kanye permission/ her approval and called her a snake which meant that all of Kim/ Kanye’s followers called Taylor a snake and then basically the world canceled Taylor. She disappeared for an entire year! Reputation was released on November 10, 2017 (the 10 year anniversary of Donda West’s passing) and the line was “there will be no explanation, only reputation” meaning she didn’t do any interviews to promote the album. The album sold 1.26 million copies, 94,366 song sales, and 22.69 million streams in the FIRST WEEK without press. Taylor took all the shit the media threw at her and created an incredible album! In 2020, the non-edited phone call between Kanye and Taylor was released and god bless it was like 20 minutes of Kanye chasing rabbits. He was telling Taylor about losing money and owing Kim money, Drake, and how genius his album is. He was also wanting TAYLOR to PROMOTE HIS ALBUM on HER social media. Taylor told him she had too much attention on her at the moment and she just wanted to keep her head down. She basically was being nice about telling him no thank you, I won’t promote your album and I guess he didn’t appreciate being told no. So, now let’s get back to the 2017 Reputation album. Taylor wrote about taking an ax to a mended fence (again, she wrote a benevolent forgiveness song on her Speak Now album), burying hatchets but keeping maps to where she put them, calling them liars and just saying “let the games begin.” Well, y’all, Taylor is still clapping back and at the top of her craft. Taylor has a sharp ass pen and she will stand up for herself! North and Kim have a shared TikTok where they were making fun of one of Taylor’s music videos from the Reputation album. If Kim wouldn’t have called Taylor a snake, she probably wouldn’t have a diss song about her…and maybe she wouldn’t have been booed at Tom Brady’s roast. Taylor uses metaphors in her writing. thanK you aIMee paints Kim as a high school bully. Actually, the song This Is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things (Reputation album) has a childish tone to it. Listen to it so you get what I mean, but I think it was an intentional, stylized choice because they were acting like children and bullying someone who didn’t do a damn thing to them, so she made a song with that same tone. And since we are on diss songs, Cassandra is about Kim/ Kanye/ the Kardashian family…”They knew, they knew, they knew the whole time. That I was onto something. The family, the pure greed, the Christian chorus line. They all said nothing. Blood's thick but nothing like a payroll. Bet they never spared a prayer for my soul.” Here, Taylor is pulling from Greek mythology and the story of Cassandra. Kim should have apologized to Taylor years ago when her mom, Kris, told her to.
It's a metaphor for Kim being a bully. So the song sounds like it is a high school bully, but the first line holds the first clue..."a bronze SPRAY- TANNEDED statue. Thanks for the reaction
In 2016 Kim released a edited video of Taylor and Kanye’s phone call and edited it to make Taylor out to be a big liar which she wasn’t and this was after they had made up after the award show incident years before .. the real video leaked not to long ago not sure when … anyways Kim called her a snake and got the whole world calling her one which leads to her reputation album but Kanye and her beef started way before then at an award show … he’s the root to all of the drama
@@UglyaceEnt KimK started calling her a 🐍and the whole # Taylorisoverparty which was the top trending hashtag worldwide. Oh and Kim still hasn't apologize...there's even a video of Kris telling Kim to call Taylor and apologize Kim flat out said no to apologizing. In Taylor's Times Person of the Year article in reference to this she said "the trash takes itself out every single time" and it looks like krama is working in Taylor's favor. Also, Kendall was in Taylor's squad at the time it went down. This will come back-up when you get to the song Cassandra. It's important to know that Cassandra is from Greek mythology and could predict the future, but was cursed so no one would believe her predictions.
love this song, its just so catchy, hope someone explained Reputation was a big dis to her and kanye it happened a long time ago not in high school but kim gets asked about it and she says its over but she refused to even apologize, watch
This goes way back. Look what you made me do is about Kim and Kanye too. The whole Reputation Tour was tinged with this crap. But it’s my favorite era so 🤷🏼♀️ 😂 I guess I like the messy songs too. 🤣
Gracie Abrams is my other baby girl got an album coming out called the secret of us! And her track 5 ft Taylor Swift and it's called us💜 she also has an album called good riddance
I love how you react to Taylor. You get her. If you think about how hard she’s worked for so many years why do some people come down on her. I don’t care if you like her music and will continue to do so. This song is brilliant. Thank you. Please bring us more..
I belivee Taylor had a high school bully named Aimee, so this has quite a few meanings. I think that was done purposely so neither could know for sure whether it’s really about them or not 😂🤣😂🤣
Great reaction, dude, and when you learn more of the "cognac" you'll hear some of the same songs again, but on another level that reveals Taylor's genius even better. Thanks, take care!🤍
Buffy the Vampire Slayer was my favorite show growing up. Each Tuesday, I'd watch it and then pick apart things. Having critiques and just hating on things are so different. I appreciate you calling that out. I'm critical of things I love, but it doesn't mean I don't love them!
Taylor never did anything to Kim. KK only got involved because her husband has always been obsessed with Taylor. Part of me thinks that he wanted her and bullying her was his way of coming on to her but he failed miserably.
Reputation Taylor's Version (Rep TV) is coming soon and the Kanye/Kim drama with the "Famous" song and video, and the edited recorded phone call, internet/tabloid reputation attack is addressed on it. So I think this song was included to have newcomers aware of the history.
I didn't sing along to Houdini because there was a table of folks who wouldn't have appreciated that song, I'm attached to the wall charging phone now their gone so I'll sing along
How anybody could have turned on her is beyond me. I have hated Kanye since that moment. She's a bigger person than me. To have given them the benefit of the doubt. Not once did I turn or distrust her integrity.
Taylor was leveling Kim’s actions to a high school bully. North has already come at Taylor, so she’s DEFINITELY fair game on this song - she didn’t think Taylor was cool. PROOF: ru-vid.comA5Joz2TwIAI?si=rLB6uVzDR0gY2CUd •Kim also has a son named “SAINT”. So it’s a double edged sword when she says “My mother is a SAINT-ly woman”. Taylor didn’t just choose that word to describe her mother on accident. “These words keep RINGING in my head” = Kanye’s f’n call. ☎️ For those that say Kim didn’t deserve this, remember that Taylor was 19 when Kanye started to mess with her at HER FIRST GRAMMY AWARD!! He’s still messing with her. So they deserve everything they get and then some! They’re awful people. Awful parents who paid the theater off to put a non-talented North West in the 30th anniversary of The Lion King as Simba. All of those younger children who are actually talented and prepared for this role?? They stole it and gave it to the highest bidder. Now North is already starting to get some payback and pressure from the industry. No talent but big ego’s run wildly in her family. I hope she sees all of it because she knew she didn’t have any talent to play that character; especially on such an important occasion for the show! Shame on everyone involved.
Kim and Kayne have been bullying Taylor for years 1.) Kayne getting up and stealing Taylor’s momment at the Grammies 2.) Kayne calling Taylor and recording audio of the conversation about a song he made saying “I think Taylor and I can’t still have sex because I made that bitch famous. 3.)the edited phone call that Kim did and then called Taylor a snake in which she lost friends who believed Kim and Kanye and #taylorswiftisover was the number 1 thing tweeted and people tore taylor up on social media calling her a liar and snake making her going in to hiding for a year. 4.) Kayne having a video with a sex doll made to look like Taylor swift which is just disgusting. 5.) Kim never apologizing for her parts she played in tarnishing Taylor’s reputation! There is a lot of beef behind this song and truthfully Kim is just a bully!