apologies that these aren't the MOST hardcore bands out there. it's just an intro. i'll do a pt 2 with some more harder bands next time!!! Merry Christmas everyone :)
No apology necessary. It’s tricky because genre lines are always blurry. Even more so when trying to identify the start of a new branch. The artists identified as pioneers in any genre almost never intended to create a new genre. All these bands thought of themselves as punk bands because that’s what existed.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z-pziSVzhjY.htmlsi=CRx9_Kv28kgmsbir Kia Ora hello Cuzzie hay the link above is in my opinion one of the best kiwi punkrock bands Missing Teeth live at Aotearoa New Zealand Punkfest in 2007 it's a very good recording and video the song is called THE PLAUGE
As someone who was alive in the 80's, I would recommend for early Hardcore Punk. Discharge - Protest and Survive (1982) D.O.A. - Thirteen (1980) The Germs - Lexicon Devil (1979) Agnostic Front - United and Strong (1984) Exploited - I Believe In Anarchy (1981)
I was there,and that scene birthed me into the real political scene that was hardcore punk(early teens)...greatest time to be alive...greatest all ages shows.
Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat went on to be in the great band called Fugazi. 13 Songs, Repeater, Steady Diet of Nothing, and In On The Kill Taker are Fugazi albums I hope you will consider reacting to.
Husker Du started out hardcore and morphed into more melodic sophisticated songwriting by this time. For hardcore you'd want to listen to something much earlier off Everythings Falls Apart or maybe Real World from Metal Circus or from Zen Arcade, though they were starting to move away from hardcore by then.
Zen Arcade is to this day one of the most brutal things I've ever heard. We'd play the cassette on road trips, but if you tried to listen to it more than 2 times all the nerves in the back of your head would violently rebel. To think that it was recorded for the most part in one take is mind blowing as a musician that's familiar with what it took to record back then. Their later melodic stuff is absolutely beautiful. The sound of two people who love each other and became so competitive in their songwriting, it destroyed their friendship. 🤘🧙♂🤘
@@erco9167two first Sugar albums are great! Esp ‘Beaster’ which is just incredibly fierce! Absolutely Hard Core intensity! Totally opposite of Copper Blue, which is more of a clean alternative pop album but very good at it 😊
My favorite Husker Du albums are New Day Rising, Flip Your Wig, Candy Apple Grey, and Warehouse: Songs And Stories. Divide And Conquer may be my favorite song. Great video!
Bad brains are the backbone of every band that came after them! Literally the most influential band in modern rock and roll! Even a lot of hip hop acts have cited the brains as influence!
DIscharge is essential, since it's the beginning and inspirations to a lot of future genres. There would be no Trash Metal, Black Metal or Crust Punk without them.
Yes! I listed a few in my comment but how did I forget Discharge!? Also I like MDC, Doom, Crass, Conflict. And Napalm Death has elements of hardcore and grind 💥🏴☠️
The attitude the Brains are talking about is PMA positive mental attitude. An idea they picked up from the book "Think and Grow Rich'. It would be hard to overestimate the influence that Bad Brains, Minor Threat and Black Flag had on the bands that came after them.
Shoutout to your dad for his favorite Husker Du song being a deep cut from Warehouse! Husker Du were all over the place while they were around, a truly distinctive sound.
I’m from NY and I’m in my fifties, so Bad Brains were the best. Close seconds would be Agnostic Front, in particular the Victim in Pain album. Also Cro-Mags were great with Age of Quarrel album. Murphys Law, Warzone, Sheer Terror were all good.
I'm 50 and from Buffalo NY ......took my 18yr old son to his 1st hardcore show 2 weeks ago..... it was Agnostic Front, Murphys Law, and Grade 2.......NY Hardcore never gets old and when Vinny Stigma welcomes your son to hardcore its a memory I'll never forget
All of the members of Bad Brains became rastafarians after going to a Bob Marley concert. They played Hardcore and reggae songs but didn't mix the two different genres in individual songs. They were absolutely phenomenal live.
@@jasonsmith666 I saw them supporting UK Subs in Brixton in the early 80s. Felt sorry for the Subs having to follow them on stage. Interesting that you say "jazzy" because Bad Brains did start as a jazz rock fusion band before becoming punk.
They were Rastafarians before they were the bad brains. They used to be a reggae band but a friend of theirs named Sid McRay turned them into the sex pistols. I've hung out with Sid McRay. Cool dude.
These bands are the beginning of hardcore. This is the first wave that came after the ramones/pistols/clash/damned explosion. After that bands took “punk” either hardcore or pop
Be sure to check out Scandinavian Hardcore, like Rattus, Anti-Cimex, Tarveet Kadet, Riistetyt, Driller Killer, etc ...and British Hardcore like Discharge, Doom, Chaos UK
@@RibeiroGames12 Nah, it's just a different flavor of hardcore. Crust is usually much more metallic, slower and sludgy, it has this crossover appeal. Of all these bands probably only Driller Killer and Doom to a degree can be considered crustcore. But still even, for example Doom is closer to hardcore sound then pure crust, thus crustcore. But nevermind the tags, it's all an of offshoot of original first-wave hardcore, just with regional differences, specific flavors and scenes.
If you want more dark hardcore songs I would recommend “Richard Hung Himself” by D.I, “Big Mouth” by Gorilla Biscuits (who usually make positive songs, for instance: “things we say”), and “Live Fast, Die Young” by the Circle Jerks.
Great picks.Dead Kennedys, D.R.I, GBH or Angry Samoans. Hardcore and Trash are just Punk/Metal crossover. Husker Du's Zen Arcade with The Brids cover 8 miles high.
Pay 2 Cum is my favorite Bad Brains song, and is likely their most well know song. The song exists in several versions, and the best one is on their Black Dots album. There is a certain quality to it. that sticks out to me. Fast, and intense, yet calmly in control.
If you want to hear how the genre of grunge was created, check out the second half of Black Flag's album My War. Incredibly influential to all of the Seattle bands with punk roots.
I'd love to see your reaction to some post-hiatus Descendents. Something like Cool To Be You and Hypercaffium Spazzinate has been my go-to for punk for a good while now, and people are *sleeping* on it!
Ok, my favorite Hard Core band is from my hometown here in Portland Oregon . Poison Idea. The guitarist said "Hardcore was for the younger kids, the stupider kids. I was a stupider person so I fit right into that" R.I.P Tom Roberts.
Great band. I remember seeing them, Lockjaw and a thrash band Mayhem a bunch in the 80s. If I remember right, Poison Idea swapped members with Mayhem a few times. I heard they lost a few members besides Tom. Thanks for triggering the memories, I had forgotten about them and probably had not thought about them since the early 90s.
Oh man, this brought back memories of when I was in my teens and started getting into punk. Older punks would tell me, "this is hardcore," "this is punk," but for a long time I could not tell the difference! Seems super weird to me now, because the difference is usually quite clear to my ears these days, although some bands do exist right on the line.
Don't forget D.O.A.! It's was the very first really 'hardcore' hardcore that I heard as a little kid that actually sounded like music to me :) The Enemy is still a timeless melodic punk classic
Saw all the Hardcore in So Cal back in the day. highly recommend you checking out the Dead Kennedys, Circle Jerks, early Black Flag (Miltown High), Fear, DOA, The Adolescents, JFA, Bad Religion, Minutemen, TSOL, The Stains, (early) The Descendents, Social Distortion, Youth Brigade and definitely The Dickies, who predated the Hardcore movement but went faster and harder before anyone else did. They're humorous so people don't put them into the Hardcore catagory but they ushered it in with The Incredible Shrinking Dickies and Dawn of the Dickies.
The L.A. wit and irony was thick before hardcore. Dickies shows were so fun! Redd Kross, too. I especially like the psychoBilly (?) scene: GunClub, Flesheaters, Tex & the Horseheads, and my most favorite ever - X !!!! Minutemen were another fave. Great memories.
@@scottstine611 of course. I was just excited a few of my favorites from my L.A. days were mentioned ! I agree the Dickies weren’t hardcore. I personally preferred the fun wit of The Dickies, Fear, Circle Jerks. The overall aggression riots/LAPD crap at hardcore shows started getting annoying. Ran for my life too many times . I’m female btw Remember the LA Street Scene?😳 I liked Black Flag secret word-of-mouth downtown loading dock shows, though. Fun times. I’m just here in this comment section cuz I’m curious about the current culture hype around the “hardcore” concept. 🤓😁
Excellent pick of bands! I was gonna mention Hüsker Dü as I initially didn't see it in your title and then saw you already got it covered haha. They were more hardcore in their early days (Land Speed Record, Zen Arcade) and developed a more alternative rock style later on. I guess the line between punk and hc is a blurred one...another band I would highly recommend checking out is Negative Approach. Merry Christmas!
To me hardcore has always been "just punk". I feel like its more a question of the bands attitude to their music and the industry than necessarily a statement about the music.
Just to try and clear some things up, Hardcore Punk is generally considered "Pure Punk" for lack of a better term. This is where things can get confusing, the term Hardcore can be used to describe Hardcore Punk or Hardcore, there's a blurry distinction which confused me for a while. Hardcore Punk describes more intense aggressive and energetic no nonsense Punk music, whilst the lone term Hardcore can refer to bands that have broken away from more traditional Hardcore Punk and have incorporated more metal influences in there music and the song structures usually involve breakdowns. For an example of the differences compare Bad Brains or Gallows (a much more recent Hardcore Punk band) with bands like Knocked Loose, yes they're a few decades apart but the differences still hold up.
Hardcore never changed. The sound never died, bands like Scowl, Restraining Order, Rotting Out, Cruel Hand, Turnstile etc are still carrying the torch of non-metallic hc. The scene has changed, but overall Knocked Loose is basically a metalcore band in the hardcore scene.
This would have been another good choice, or one of the others from Zen Arcade. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EQfrHkjvx6g.htmlsi=ACo_ohiyPpp1FJST
Early Husker Du was more hardcoreish but I wouldn't call them that. Bands like Discharge, Exploited, GBH, Fear, Battalion of Saints, Agnostic Front, New Bomb Turks or the Distillers are more solidly in the hardcore category.
@@snuffcore9686 that is 100 correct Bad Brains hardcore minor Threat Straight edge i don't really care they are both insanely awesome I've seen Bad Brains and FUGAZI
@@snuffcore9686 you are not Wrong the DC scene has been a big part of the back beat to my life since 1984 I'm 54 I've been LUCKY enough to have seen BAD BRAINS AND FUGAZI here in Aotearoa New Zealand and the ROLLINS BAND 👏👏👏
@@snuffcore9686 I've had a brain bleed so i repeat myself constantly very forgetful 5 weeks in a coma so I'm sorry for telling you the same information about BB and FUGAZI. This might sound stupid but at the top of my bucket list is meeting Ian Mackaye shaking his hand and thanking him for a lifetime of Musical Joy and sticking to his moral code
enjoying the videos :) - some recommend staple/gateway punk bands to add to the gigantic comments list: madball, sick of it all, H2o, Agnostic Front, Terror, Walls of Jericho, Horrorpops, Necromantix, Tiger Army, Leftover Crack, Ramshackle Glory, Against All Authority , AFI, Rancid, Nofx, Bad Religion, DropKick Murphys, Cock Sparrer, Blatz, Crass, Aus Rotten...
New York hardcore is the best. Agnostic Front, Sick of it All, Cromags, Murphy’s Law, Gorilla Biscuits, Token Entry, Rest in Pieces, Straight Ahead and Zwilling Time.
you should do a Unit on San Francisco Punk as well. It was a very unique period with tons of great forgotten bands like The Sleepers, The Units, Code Of Honor, The Lewd, The Witnesses, Black Athletes, Flipper, Crime, Avengers... I could go on...
One day at the gym I felt like listening to Minor Thread and found myself jaming hard "what albums is this?" turns out is was their whole discography. It's about the same lenght as some single albums. Definetly worth it.
I seen bad brains in Tacoma Washington at crescent ballroom. HR flew out on the stage jumping 5 feet in the air looking like a jester with his 3 or 4 huge as dreads!!! Great show!!!
I'm Brazilian and I found your channel today. It's really good. I'm watching a lot of videos where you react to albums that I love. Congratulations. one more subscriber :)
Minor threat is a straight edge punk band, they're started a movement called straight edge, if you don't know what straight edge is, means no drinking, smoking, and no drugs
You should check out early Oi! music: i think you’d love the bounce. Cockney Rejects, Cock Sparrer, Angelic Upstarts, Sham 69, Dropkick Murphys for the diluted US version
Haven't seen your channel & this caught my eye. 80s HxC song recommends: SS Decontrol-The Kids Will Have Their Say, Minor Threat-Screaming At A Wall, Uniform Choice-My Own Mind, Gorilla Biscuits-Breaking Free, RKL-Think Positive, Dead Kennedys-Kepone Factory. Also you should watch the American Hardcore documentary by Steven Blush about birth of the Hardcore scene.
That’s a great Husker track. For their first earlier more hardcore stuff that was right between their insanely fast hardcore stuff and their later pop punk and just indescribably cool stuff is the whole EP called Metal Circus. It’s 20 minutes of genius and it covers really hardcore early sound as well as stuff like “Diane” when they revolutionized hardcore and indie rock.
I'm so drawn to reactions to classic hardcore! But I've searched so many, it seems like the only ones I haven't watched are new ones. So I was stoked to see this. Looking fwd to part 2. I recommend OFF!, Dead Kennedys, Poison Idea, MDC, Negative Approach, SSD, Los Crudos, Articles Of Faith, Saccharine Trust, and more from today's 4 bands even though they played other genres 🤘💥🏴☠️
Just remember what they were recording with at that time,if they recorded with the stuff we have now would have been super amazing but I guess it was a kind of sound with the recording as well, so who knows, sublime was not original, bands like this actually coined reggae punk, and minor threat, bad religion, verbal abuse, black flag, Jerry’s kids, DOA that was all the start and many many more bands! That music was just a little bit faster a little bit harder definitely the first wave that spawned into stuff like the Cro-Mags agnostic front, SOD, DRI,the English stuff wasn’t as heavy in the beginning I mean it was but not like when you listen to the first couple albums of minor threat or black flag. It was just different especially when went to shows in the early 80s the shows were freaking nuts out of control, you could feel the power! But yes, great choices on the band you picked!
Husker Du (along with the Replacements) are among my favorite 80s bands. Though I never really considered Husker Du hardcore probably their most "hardcore" album is Metal Circus.
tsol - dance with me, descendents - milo goes to college, samhain - november coming fire, melvins - ozma, rkl - rock n roll nightmare, septic death - now that i have the attention, minutemen - double nickels on the dime, wire - pink flag,
I can understand the challenge in differentiating hardcore from straight up punk. To get a better clearer idea the difference listen to the classic punk of its Tim - 1977 and 1978 albums from Clash and Ramones and so forth, then listen to first EPs of Black Flag just after and then listen to first couple Minor Threat EPs and maybe the whole debut album by Bad Brains or the archival album from bad brains they recorded in 78/79 called Black Dots. you can hear the next level of scuzzy and gross and fast and fucked up. Anyway, great video. Love it!
Oh I absolutely LOVE that husker du song. Spent a few hours staring at the horizon while listening to it, meditating the lyrics. It's not really hardcore, but such a great tune. If you really want to hear some prime hc, go to their early discography, specially Land Speed Record. That's the reason they were considered the fastest band on earth at one point.
Regarding the heavier Hard-core artists, check out Fugazi, NOFX, GG Allin, Suicidal Tendencies and Agnostic Front first.... Then onto the heavier stuff with Biohazard, Sick Of It All, Hatebreed and through to the start of Metalcore... (This then diversifies into genres such as Mathcore with the likes of Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, Coalesce, Converge etc.)
My suggestion: Bad Brains - I against I Minor Threat - out of step Hüsker Dü - ‘do the bee’ from the Land Speed Record album Black Flag - slip it in Circle Jerks - I just want some skank Germs - what we do is secret Dead Kennedys - well paid scientist Thanks for the video!!!
Merry Christmas Kira! 🎄🎁❄️🎅 In my opinion. The O.G. hardcore bands were more punk than anything but if you keep exploring all the hardcore bands that came after. You'll find it gets more and more hardcore. Especially with bands like Madball, Terror, Comeback Kid, and Scowl. Especially when they start incorporating breakdowns in the songs. I loved your reaction and I hope you keep exploring hardcore.
I just now discovered your channel, and I liked this video. Have always been a Black Flag fan, from long long ago. Thanks, look forward to your next reaction.
Hi Kira. I agree with all the suggestions for Discharge - and for a particular reason; I think you'd find the similarity to Motorhead really interesting. M'head bridged metal and punk, and were pioneers of both genres. Check out Discharge, The Blood Runs Red as an example. For classic Discharge I'd suggest State Violence/ State Control, or Protest and Survive is probably their best known one. Enjoy! And merry Xmas! 😃
Bad Brains are a great place to start. Pretty much EVERY hardcore bands in the 80s all would say the Bad Brains were amazing and influential. Washington DC, NYC and Raliegh NC were all hugely influenced by the Bad Brains. I had the luck to see them in 1985.
Just to name a few, here are some other older hardcore bands to check out... Negative Approach, Agnostic Front, Sick of it All, Murphy's Law, Cro-mags, Slapshot, The Freeze, Youth of Today, Better than a Thousand, Judge, Gorilla Biscuits, Youth Brigade (both Cali & DC bands), Government Issue, Poison Idea, etc.
Hüsker Dü was never really a pure hardcore band, more of a POST-hardcore band like Dinosaur Jr. or Fugazi. They had some upsped tracks though, especially in their earlier days. Try New Day Rising, I Apologize or Something I Learned Today for a start. I'm sure your daddy will approve. Hüsker Dü to me are one of the most underrated bands today, their influence - not only on the punk and alternative scene, but also on the grunge movement - are huge. Their fabulous songwriting abilities plus the fact that Bob Mould and Grant Hart both had their equal share in singing (both with great voices) brought them the nickname 'the Lennon/McCartney of alternative music" which is not only a huge compliment but also quite fitting. Last but not least I have to second the emotion that you really need to check out Dead Kennedys as well, they're also very much essential when you're talking about hardcore punk. I recommend Holiday in Cambodia (of course), California Über Alles and Police Truck to start with.
If you get the time, you should check out Nardcore which is hardcore which is faster than hardcore imo, check out JFA, Stalag 13 and Dr. Know just to name a few, but in your part 2 of this series, you have got to include Circle Jerks or The Adolescence.
i was at one of the first Bad Brains shows in D.C....Teen Idles opened up for them ... 1979. i got the first 45 rpm Pay to Cum / Sailing On I would say Bad Brains was 90 per cent Hard Core / 10 % reggae when they started ....... also worth checking out is a later song: Re-ignition thanks Alan
You definitely need to check out dead Kennedys, especially their debut album fresh fruit for rotting vegetables. One of the pillars of hardcore punk in my opinion
