This one was a major one that shouldn't be missed. Always expect a post-credit scene but be on the look out for mid-credit scenes. There's gonna be plenty of those going forward. In fact even without a bonus scene you should at least stick around for any rendered credits sequence since they really are quite intricate and nice to look at. I liked the museum-esque aesthetic here.
A couple of fun facts: 1. The old man that stands up to Loki is intended to be a Holocaust survivor which adds a lot of weight to that scene. 2. The scene with the blueberries was adlibbed. The lines weren't, but Robert Downey was notorious for sneaking snacks onto set and eating them. Mark Ruffalo and Chris Evans just stayed in character and kept the scene going.
The moment Steve discovers weapons of mass destruction he started to understand the world he is in now is different and he shouldn't trust the authorities or the government's of countries so easily. This is the reason he did what he did afterwards
So in the shawarma post credit scene, Chris evans is just sitting covering his face because he had started filming snowpiercer (which I hope you watch) in which his character has facial hair so he couldn’t shave it off
21:51 This whole conversation made me realize (SPOILERS ahead!!!) It's interesting seeing the change from here to Civil Wars between Tony and Steve, and how the tables have turned. Steve started out as the Institute Man and Tony as the rebel. Probably took the events in Winter Soldier for Steve to lose that faith, and by Civil Wars he's the one refusing to sign The Accords and Tony sides with the System...
SPOILERS I still kinda feel like they shoulda ended up on the opposite sides of the civil war story, imo there wasn’t enough to show why they both drastically changed their ideologies
Actually it's implemented in this movie itself when Steve finds Hydras tech in Shield's quarter, he realized the world is not how he left it. Winter Soldier was the point where he totally lost faith is authority fully and Age of Ultron only adds to him going against Tony's ideology (of course since Tony didn't explain his actions fully). Civil War is totally put as to why Steve is against authorities and why he's concerned with Tony's decisions.
@@jp3813 it was enough to enact the accords for sure, but character wise Tony and Steve should have been on opposite sides of that battle imo. The only thing that swayed Tony was this random lady saying her son died in Sokovia, and Steve was always about rules. Imo steve should have been the one who felt the destruction of Sokovia more heavily than Tony
@@jonathanfoster4202 From my experience, I mostly heard people saying that Tony should've felt way more guilty at the end of Avengers 2 due to almost causing the extinction of mankind. And just in these top-voted comments, I already came across someone saying that Steve wasn't even above disobeying orders in his first solo movie. I don't know, everybody has their own expectations.
I really miss this version of Thor and Loki. I know the newer takes of the characters (which is more modern and comical) are way more popular. But their archaic way of speaking made them feel like ancient powerful entities.
Ps: if no-one has explained it to you yet, loki was also under the influence of the septer. (Many references, his eyes were bright blue, and marvel confirmed it). He was also tortured by Thanos before he came to earth (you can see by the sweat, dark circles under his eyes etc). I would explain more...but my thumbs hurt
I love how Hawkeye is the one who pointed out that the door opens both ways. I also want a machine for my clothes like the one that takes Tony's suit off.
"This is where the fun begins!" used to be on a sign on a sleazy cheap casino in Las Vegas. I don't think it exists anymore. I used to go there with my buddies, and we thought it was a particularly funny sign, because that place was so obviously NOT where the fun begins.
Man i remember my parents having to drag me to the cinema to watch The Avengers in 2012. After that I never missed a movie! It’s crazy how the mcu grew in the last 10 years. Here’s to 10 more years 😆
One thing I would like to point out, The Scientist said that they have some control even when Brainwashed by Loki, and you can see that in Hawkeye, he misses two times on purpose: #1: He shot Fury in his chest even Knowing that he would be wearing a Vest, he could have shot him in the head. #2: When Fighting Black Widow He misses an Arrow even though they were close to each other.
Also Loki's eyes are blue during this movie (not like his normal green) and he not only looks "worse for wear" but also at certain, brief moments appears to fight and break the sceptre's control (that he got from the Chitari), realising what the gravity of his actions are, but only briefly hinting at something bigger.
I love how when ever they're fighting on the plane they're directly in front if the soul stone and even though the camera focuses on it a lot you just don't realize that that's the reason
The good ole days when the first Avengers was the most epic film in the MCU. I do miss the joys of discovering just how much bigger this franchise could get. Compared to where we're at now, your cousin ain't seen nothing yet.
I love the talk of themes (the teacher in me) and the connections they have to characters-- it is SOOOO important to truly understanding the characters. Loki, Steve, and Tony are carry a lot of that thematic weight, especially at this point in the films, a few more big hitters show up down the line, but these three just impact the themes. Steve and Tony eventually end up in nearly opposite places developmentally and I love that-- Steve right now, definitely is a trust the system sort of guy, which is ironic as he has shown he will go against orders if he thinks its right (showing that good man over being a good solider). Super excited for you guys to watch Winter Solider. I consider that one a near perfect action film (with great narrative themes and character development-- its pretty much the turning point for Steve's character development).
Surprised I don't see this already mentioned in the comments - the Mind Stone is influencing Loki from the start, which you can tell from his slightly manic appearance when he arrives through the Tesseract/Space Stone's portal. Like it influences the Avengers in their argument, Loki carried the Mind Stone with him for a while.
Lines like that always impress me cause like you can connect that to what’s happening in phase 4 with multiverse stuff, a line from so early in the MCU lol
I must say, seeing this in theaters for the first time was so hype, ppl cheering and clapping at some great moments, so much energy and love from the fans
Loki did definitely got under Natashas skin, but that's her skill set. not fighting or spying (even tho she is very good at that) but making the other person think they are in control in any way, even in letting them push her real buttons.
@@k3n12ock Not sure about Jeremy Renner, but the reason Chris Evans had his head resting like that is because he had a beard for another role which couldn't be shaved.
I remember my brain exploiting watching all the crushes I have had for years were together in the same scene multiple times. I watched this movie in cinemas with my mother that had never seen one MCU movie. When I look at her laughing and investing in every character I knew how this movie was brilliantly structured. Great movie, great reaction.
37:42 "Not in a time like this dude!" In his defense, I don't think Cap's existence is common knowledge at this point in time. As far as he know he's being ordered around by some nut in a costume.
there is something you should know about loki in avengers, loki all the time was controlled by that scepter that he has in his hand,(THAT STA SCEPTER CONTROLLED BY THANOS) if you realize loki always had green eyes, and here he has blue eyes, when thor tells loki what caused , you can see that for a moment he realizes the chaos he made, his eyes begin to vary in color, but also the scepter is powerful when someone is hurt and wants revenge it is easy to dominate such a person, IF THEY GIVE IT COUNT, THE SAME HAPPENED WITH THE HULK, HE WAS ANGRY, WHEN EVERYONE LOOKS AT HIM HE HAD GRASPED THE SCEPTER WITHOUT DEMANDING
Steve's characterization is very... odd in this film. When Fury says they need soldiers, it cuts right to Cap. And there's the whole thing with trusting vs distrusting SHIELD and following orders, which seems to imply Steve is the good little boy scout naively trusting because that's what he's used to in his time. Yes, there was more trust in institutions in the 40s. And certainly Steve missing the whole Nuclear Arms Race is a factor. But Steve was willing to defy authority in his solo film, and the point of his character is he's *not* the perfect soldier. The way I make sense of it is, it's not that Cap is a rule-following soldier. But he wants to believe SHIELD is on the up and up because they are his only connection to Peggy. Not to mention, he's 100% right that Loki is trying to wind them up. I get why Whedon chose Steve to play on this theme of trust, but I'm not sure he quite pinned Steve's character. That said, his skepticism of Stark's ego is *definitely* on point.
When did Steve defy orders in his first solo film? When he rescued Bucky? I've heard people claim that Tony already fought unselfishly before as opposed to Cap's accusation of him.
Steve’s defiance in his first film mostly came out when he was in a position to help or save others and someone was trying to stop him. It wasn’t so much directly questioning government authorities’ morality until we get to Winter Soldier. Here, the circumstances are a lot different given he’s in a new time period and he doesn’t know who to trust besides the company that Peggy and Howard helped build because they’re the first people he’s met. His one-shot goes into his sense of isolation a little more but he doesn’t really have a choice but to trust everything SHIELD says until Tony presents another option. And honestly, he might have only given Tony’s words credence because a) he’s Howards’s son and, b) Bruce was backing him up. I don’t see Steve’s behavior as out of character, it’s very much situationally based. The theme of trust continues to be an overarching one for his character’s story throughout the rest of the MCU, so it’s apt that some of that groundwork for his distrust in modern government is laid here.
The first and only movie I actually went 3 TIMES to see in theaters. I hadn’t even seen all the other movies but it was honestly one of the best films to see on big screen
Woohoo legit early for my BOIS cant wait to see this. Iconic and crazy ambitious legit changed how we do movies. No spoilers for my man nimetailed but it’s crazy to think this joining lead all the way to infinity war and endgame. Immediate thoughts are I’d love too see him see Bruce. Also I love Bruce’s scene with Natasha . Anyway ima watch now. Love you guys.
Hey guys this is your uncle. I grew up with this. I own the Infinity Gauntlet comics that I bought when they came out. I will show them to you the next time I see you if you like.
There had been multihero superhero movies before, but there had often been a demand to simplify the backstory. Like, in XMen, in one movie they had Juggernaut. Juggernaut in the comics was a regular dude with a magic helmet (I believe). But no no no, that's too CONFUSING, so in the movie he was a mutant, too. Mutant mutant mutant mutant. This movie joyfully embraced comics. Super soldier, super spies, gamma mutated ragemonster, space god, powersuit genius inventor... sure, why not! And nobody could deny how well it worked. It blew the lid off.
My geek friends and I went as a group of something like 15 at the theatre when it first came out. Imagine what I and 2 or 3 others versed in the comics had to explain when the purple fellow showed up.
This is the very first MCU movie I ever saw, and I did see it in theaters. It was amazing. For me to come into this movie having no clue who ANYONE was or what was going on and coming out completely hooked....it started a life long obsession with superheros and Marvel in particular
The trouble with Hawkeye is that at most his quiver can hold a few dozen arrows. After he runs out, what happens, he runs to the nearest sporting goods store?
The Avengers themes is art-- when added correctly to a scene with perfect cinematography and narrative build up it just gets me so pumped up (I still get a little emotional just because I get so hyped by a certain scene in Infinity War).
Not growing up with American comics, when I was a boy watching the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, I always wondered how there always were tons of villains in a city, but only one hero. Then after Iron Man (and catching the end credits on RU-vid because I didn't know they were doing that) I wondered what this 'Avengers Initiative' was supposed to be. After a bit of googling, my prayers were finally heard and i've been riding this train ever since.
Interesting note -- Loki looks genuinely sick if you notice here -- especially in his "arrival" scene, which adds to the conspiracy theory that he is being at least partially controlled here -- it also explains why he's gone far more into hardcore villain mode.
I've seen all the marvel movies at the theaters and seeing this was such an experience. I remember showing up like an hour and a half before the movie to get a good seat and it was completely sold out. before reserved seats. But it was such a good experience. Nothing like it.
Imagine you're the owner of a multi-billion dollar international mega-corporation. You can pretty much do as you please. But you have weird government agents randomly showing up, wanting you to join some team where you'll have to take orders from them. Stark isn't a "team player", because he doesn't have to be. And I doubt most people in his shoes would suddenly decide to become subservient to someone else's agenda.
@@markcruz359 - Ummm... no. That equation isn't exactly string theory... but sometimes you need to do at least some basic math, and choose the least costly path.
@@markcruz359 That's the first movie. In this he starts by making Stark Tower run on its own self-sustaining energy source. He's still an asshole, but he's channeling it in a less destructive way.
Did you notice Loki's eyes in this movie? They're a dull blue here, but they were bright green before he fell from the Bifrost and met Thanos. The change is more subtle than with Selvig and Barton, but of course Thanos is more skilled with the Stones than Loki is, so that makes sense. I don't think Loki is completely Loki at this time. I think he's being influenced by Thanos so he'll get the Tesseract and bring it and the Scepter to Thanos. Loki's always been a diva and manipulative, and he's never been much concerned with morality or the value of other lives, but the switch here from ansty teenager to demagogue, and from stab in the back to full frontal assault (as you pointed out when he first arrived) could use a little more explanation. I think Thanos and the Scepter are that explanation, as hinted by the change in the color of his eyes.
I gotta be 'that guy' here since you pointed out that Bruce Banner is a different actor. In my opinion, the BIGGEST mistake they made was not pursuing Edward Norton harder to reprise the role. New guy is great (totally drawing a blank on his nam.......Mark Ruffalo!) Ruffalo was great and is certainly "The Hulk" in my eyes now. But I think Norton would have blended well with other characters. Granted, it WOULD bother Norton (a writing perfectionist) that there are a few inconsistencies. Mainly no Liv Tyler. But I like how they do call all the way back to Nortons Hulk by showing us that he can change at will, like they hinted at with his green eyes at the end.
it'd be cool if they brought Norton back in a similar way to (*somewhat a spoiler*) how pietro/quicksilver was brought back in WandaVision and just cool to imagine what the mcu would have been like with the OG. but wasnt the tea way back when was that he wanted more $$$ or something?
I‘m gonna be so excited if y’all react to Captain America: The Winter Soldier! It’s my absolute favourite marvel movie. Plus the fight scene on the highway must be the best MCU fight scene 🙌🏼
9:30 I did get to watch it in theaters, at least 4 times. I hadn't seen any of the previous MCU movies in theaters before that. I was exactly 20 yrs old. I'd started to research and read a few marvel comics the year before because of X-Men first class. And then the hype around The Avengers got to me and when a friend suggested we go to the premiere I went with them. This was the start of a love story that has almost 10 years now. The Avengers was also the first and only time I went to a midnight premiere (midnight premieres stopped existing after that). Even though we were seated in the very first row (because of a mistake on my part) it was a magical night.
Overlooked in this movie: The exact point that shows Cap is beginning to change... He goes from, "we have orders. We need to follow them" boyscout, to -"Son, just, don't." When he's literally stealing a plane from SHIELD!
Yes I did grow up with this movie universe and by the time Captain Marvel came out I was ECSTATIC 🤩!! Loved seeing the excitement and awe and your faces by the way lol and it’s just so cool getting to watch all of these all over again with someone who’s experiencing them for the first time or someone who genuinely enjoys watching these epic movies and thinks more deeply about them 🎥 James, your face at the end of the movie when you turn to NineTailedBrush and asked “what do you think?” with like the BIGGEST smile ever 😁☺️ That’s me.
FWIW, people in America have ALWAYS questioned the government, including soldiers in WW2. It's not a new thing to consider there might be corruption or hidden interests. That's been the way of the world. Younger people are typically more naive than older people. Maturation is a shedding of innocence. Cap in Avengers, if you take away the sleep time, is younger than Stark or Banner.
YASS this was the first MCU film that I felt the fandom culture begin. I have a hard time feeling confident in social stuff especially like random convo and it just felt amazing to gush about a movie and recreate scenes in the playground and know you were all on the same page
I was a freshman in highschool when I saw this in theaters me and my cousin were blown away we had gotten last minute tickets the cheers and energy were off the wall 😮😌
Fury keeping secrets from the team and them going off without his approval or authorization to confront Loki is the first step towards the Avengers being fully independent of any government control because they can't fully trust those in power. It comes all the way back around in Civil War
Fun fact. Tobey's Spiderman was supposed to be in this movie, buy the whole Sony and Marvel thing ruined it. There are deleted scenes from other movies, mainly Iron Man 1 and Spiderman 2 about it. They only released a deleted scene where Nick Fury talked about Spider Man, and it was revealed Doc Ock's arms were actually supposed to have been partially developed by Stark.
After credits in Avengers are not actors act "oh I am so tired " but real people who are tired of playing the fight scene many times in the movie Avengers. They are sitting in a real restaurant in NY which was playing in a movie and they eat the real shawarma.
Of all the wonderful things/quotes in this movie, till date every once in a while my sister and I would just crack ourselves of up with *"Doth mother know you weareth her drapes"* 😂 So we were about 12/13 when we watched this and at that age of trying on momma's clothes/jewelry/makeup,it was just hilarious when one of us would catch the other in momma's things, sneaking out or something and the quote/joke has been our thing ever since 😂😂😂
Would you ever consider reacting to agents of shield series -As it continues / begins after this film and has lots of plot points and call backs of the main marvel films timeline
"Loki is maybe physical weaker" Just remembering: he's a Ice giant, he Fight with captain América and, Yes, he isn't strong as an asgardian but his physical strenght still is highter than all the human beings
I watched this reaction a few days ago, just was too tired to comment at the time. I love The Avengers and how they had to learn to work together even if they didn't know each other well. I'm glad that Loki over time...got to be in a way more human and less villain.
I realized by my own experience and the other reactors I have watched (watching mcu), that the first solo movies won't do you something but this movie is what will make you a fan.
