@@gravybiscuits3887 Bingo is an automatic warning call from the aircraft saying there is only enough fuel to return to base. "Joker" is only enough fuel to perform the planned objective and return. The F-16 has small fuel tanks and a powerful engine-- not a lot of playtime.
"Cleared to kill, cleared to kill, he's a bandit, bandit!" If that doesn't get your heart-racing and the hairs standing on the back of your neck, I don't know what will!
Cool experience, when I was stationed at Luke AFB I got to see the jet 90-0778. It was I believe in the 308th or 310th FS. It has a green star signifying it's victory. When I went to Korea, the pilot was now a 4 Star General, and Commander of the Pacific Air Forces. Since I was at Osan AB, ROK (which was only 30 miles from North Korea) he routinely flew with us. Well he went to visit our unit and our hallway lights were broken waiting for repair. I was walking and hasn't noticed his jacket. Mind you, I was so used to fighter pilots because I was a Crew Chief I almost paid him no mind. So I got really close and in the dark with his dark leather jacket with black 4 stars on the shoulder last minutes I was like OH SHIT. I went to attention so quick I looked like a glitch in a video game (customs and courtesies were a big deal with commanding officers and my unit since we were the tip of the spear.) He asked me how was I and we had a short conversation and shook hands, gave me a "carry on." I proceeded to go right to the shitter and relieve myself since I had almost shitted myself from almost getting chewed out. (He was held on extremely high regard.) Nice guy, and that was my story with the pilot and jet that killed that MiG.
What I really appreciate about this unedited version of the tape are the human factors - the edited CNN version makes it look like a heroic kill but instead what we have is a veteran flight lead following the ROE and trying to make sure his clearly junior wingman is locked onto the right bandit and tracking him. When they actually fire the flight lead reacts like he should have and assumes an enemy missile in the air toward him, slicing down low and ensuring his wingman is following him. Very good leadership showing the complexities of air combat and the decision making process, not just "press a button" and kill like the abbreviated CNN footage would imply.
You are very right. I am an USAF Weapons Director (AFSC: 1C551D). I currently do the job of the guy you are hearing on the ground watching this all take place on radar, GCI (ground control intercept). This is truly amazing footage and comm back and fourth to hear. I've only heard a bogey dope call in a real life situation once....controlling over Syria (damn russians). The comm we use has changed a lot but the same message is being passed. Excellent leadership from the flight lead. That #2 of the bandit group is lucky as hell Benji02 didnt lock his ass up too.
AIM-120C5 is often credited with the MiG-21 Bison kill, but no Su-30 MKI were shot down. Su-30s and Pakistani F-16s exchanged R-77 & AIM-120 missiles BVR, but both used evasion and countermeasures to defeat them.
@@reway8750 The sources I have seen indicate there were multiple RVV-AE missiles launched at PAF F-16s. India won't confirm that of course, because it exposes their actual limited WEZ. Notice how India began acquiring Rafale/Meteor and is aggressively pursuing their own BVRAAM program. They have complained about reliability problems with RVV-AE even before Feb 2019.
@@the.real.cia.langleyNo Su 30 missing reported. Aim 120s were fired but they all dodged as Iaf showed the wreckage of Amraams.IAF flew the same Su30 during Independence day fly past.
+CornerrecordZ Nope, more like its the original tape which has been run through the aircraft recorders, debrief players, wiped and reused time after time after time. I've seen a lot of RAF footage on the original tapes which looks just as bad as the tapes have been used over and over again.
@@kevinstraus1478 Bullshit; the F16 had a digital recorder, you literally saw it in action when it switched to the FCR display. This recording has probably been put onto a tape and ran a fuckload of times before being re digitized again.
HUD video is bad because its just used as a training aid, and they aren't trying to film the trip like its a movie. they do however have high quality cameras in the tracking pods and other systems.
It's important to remember that this was recorded on magnetic tape. The original is copied and the copy is copied over and over until the tape quality is degraded to this.
@@devilsoffspring5519 It's quite possible, yeah. The pilot is going to start with the first copy, and he'll copy it for some friends who'll copy it for some friends and so on and so forth until someone puts it on RU-vid. You can find some VTR tapes here on YT (Sunliners Mig-21 shootdown from Desert Storm is a good one) that actually look really good and some that look much, much worse than this.
I play a lot of dcs really proficient with the f18 and now learning the f16 as a hobby these guys it’s their job and the methodical tactics call outs BRA bearing range angels the bullseye callouts are so second nature and critical it really is a game of chess and cat and mouse Style war. Imagine what the world war 1 aces Red Baron should have thought seeing the f16 such an absolute beautiful aircraft. Listening to this is hair raising couldn’t imagine doing it for real the stress and training must kick in I love the idea how their goona do a simultaneous kill. As the saying goes we don’t want it to be fair.
@@jameshetfield3105 You’re forgetting, DCS is a combat SIMULATOR. it actually does translate over because it’s heavy research and implementation over the aircraft and it’s flight manuals. I can confirm that start-up and operation of the F-16 irl and in DCS is the same. The only missing thing is comms, and that’s a vital part of the job.
@@RandomShit169 Jargo is the "Bingo" aural warning a number chosen by the pilot? I think I once heard that "Bingo" is the amount of fuel need for RTB....return to base. That would be a different value on each mission.
@@rael5469it's been a year but noone answered so I will. Yes, the pilot computes his bingo value during the planning and then inputs it to the jet, once a bingo warning goes off he should set the next bingo to "previous bingo - 1000lb" in order to keep track of how much he has without checking the gauges.
yeah but situational awarness in a mig 25 is not very good, he might know there was something scanning him but where from or how far away he probably did not know. the aim 120 only begins giving warning signs about 10 km away and by that time its way too late to do anything especially in the mig 25.
You launch in STT if target can maneuver, like a fighter. You use TWS only when target can't maneuver well or at all, like bomber or cruise missiles. As if target pulls high G turn when you are in TWS mode, the target update delay causes you to lose a soft lock and requires you to find it again and lock it again, wasting valuable seconds for that. And with AESA radar you don't need that anymore as you can constantly tack target while scanning area for others. But you will give hard lock on target.
@@TheFri13 Actually, SAM is the better option for maneuvering targets ~20 miles, perhaps with an adjusted scan volume if you want to maintain SA. This would've been a good opportunity to employ DT SAM.
I wonder why they waited so long to fire the missile. 5 miles is way to close within MAR. Another thing i noticed was he was jamming within the burn through range.
Question for american: do the USAF hire ground control personnel with deep, very american-y, radiophonic, voices as requirement? I swear there was a point i'd expect some kind of Mike Breen's "THE F16 WITH NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE!" P.S.: i know it sounds more like SPURS home commentator, but you got the idea.
No, but you're trained to speak with a certain cadence. I'm a former GCI controller, and correct inflection and cadence is nearly as important as the information you're giving. You don't want to be hysterical over the radio like your hair's on fire, but neither do you want to sound like Steven Wright. Correct inflection and cadence can also help convey urgency when needed. The pilots do the same, just listen to the flight lead about a minute before he launches: his pucker factor is so high you couldn't drive a needle up his ass with a sledgehammer. However, his voice is calm, yet urgent. Controllers, both GCI and AWACS, are taught the same. So yes, in a way the USAF trains you to speak in a certain tone and with a certain cadence. That said, there's a lot of non-standard comm coming from the controller, but this could be down to two reasons: 1, it is a real-world life and death situation, and in those situations sometimes what we call "trucker comm" is acceptable as long as it enhances situational awareness, and 2, it's 1992 and the C2 and pilot community weren't as anal about comm back then as they are now.
sh0ckv3l he had every regard for human life he could have fired right after he got the green light but he radioed back and made sure he herd it right because he did not want to kill someone who was not out to hurt his fellow airmen
I think during Russian Afghan war also Pakistani air force shoots many Russian air crafts with lethal F16 but I don't know much more about this because I'm a little kid this time.
MrAlepedroza No russian plane have shot down an American plane.....you must be getting confused with s400(ground to air). Because in a dogfight usa made aircrafts always take the victory.
he had to wait to aquire a visual identification, a waste of amraams range. Where the ROE restrictive for bvr that day or the awacs couldnt identify the bogeys as bandits? His nctr however failed completely :P
Neither. Their purpose meant the tapes were not Betamax or even VHS quality. It may be hard for noobs to understand Southern Watch was a very, very long time ago and (rugged) camera technology was different. You could take better video with any modern phone (which did not exist in the OSW era, I was among the 33 AMU engine troops who worked 778) but the recorders back in those days had MECHANICAL tape drives built to survive a 9+ G environment. WWII fighters would experience structural failure before pulling9 G's. (F4U Corsair was about 7.5 positive/3.5 negative). Modern video is amazing by comparison and dirt cheap. Film video cameras (in that era film had the highest obtainable resolution) were still used in recon birds but the key advantage of HUD tapes was rapid post-mission debrief which was critical to planning future missions. Tape was fast and does not require a (bulky, requires an expensive complex developing room in a mobile shelter along with more valuable deployment manning slots to work the gear) darkroom facility to process. Tape of course could be copied easily. Debrief is the main reason for cameras on fighters. Recording cool stuff is fun but not why they were installed.
@@kamraam1464 I mean he has a point. It took the leader of the sortie so much time to give the fighter a clearance that a bandit with the intention of fighting would've easily shot down these F16s. 4 miles in almost point blank for a AIM120.
@@Brokkolesz Yeah, and the second the Mig showed aggression, they would've fired on him. If the mig turned in, started locking the F16s, etc. they wouldn't need AWACs clearance. That's enough justification to shoot.
The black screen with the white text is the radar display of the F-16. The little circles with triangles in them are the bandits (enemy aircraft that are locked in track while scan mode.) The other display you see is the Heads up Display of the aircraft.
Now that's interesting, great shot, but it had to be in visual due to rules of engagement delaying the firing. I hope it's realized that this shows (along with many other such records) that close in visual combat is still gonna be the rule in modern warefare, due to IFF problems and restrictions, PLUS the closing speeds. Even if you can fire at BVR, the closing speeds and circumstances will still result in visual, close in combat. This is why the AIM-120 has that capability, and why Sidewinders and 20mm are still needed (and why the F-35 program was a bad idea wiht the compromised airframe design and no guns on the USN and USMC models, I mean duh). Salute to the USAF. What also amazes me is the AWFUL quality of all these 'gun camera' like videos of the HUD, just lousy quality, despite the ultra advanced quality of the other equipment on the AC. I hope they have fixed that crap, since it really would help intel gathering as well as history. WW2 and Korea gun cam footage is far better than that we get off modern 4th and 5th gen warplanes. The video in a digital pocket cam is better than all of these HUD vids, even now.
What do you mean by IFF problems & restrictions? In regards to the rest, the F-22 is a BVR aircraft, its capable of visual fighting but it's main strength lies in it being able to engage well before the enemy realises he's being targeted. I suppose you fire at the target and then turn outbound away from the target, since its fire and forget, so are closing speeds an issue how?
Remember, this was a long time ago by digital standards. Radars give a much better IFF these days and the video display was actually poor quality back then, as anyone who knows military equipment, its better than top of the line when it comes out, but it isnt recycles as quickly as commercial. So this F-16 probably had 1980's gun camera on it.
+Miike Hunt It's not a digital recording at all, it's analog magnetic tape, like VHS or Beta. WWII gun cameras seemed higher quality because they used film cameras to record their action. But putting a film recorder on a modern aircraft would be too heavy and bulky (not to mention unreliable), so they used analog tape. The quality is somewhat poor and it degrades over time, but it gets the immediate job done; remember, these recordings weren't meant to look good, just to document the basic facts of the flight. Today these systems have all been upgraded to digital recordings and have much higher quality.
+HMSDaring1 Well, IFF can always fail, you never are 100% sure that you are targeting enemies, it could be neutral. BVR missile used by the Raptor is AIM-120 AMRAAM, it's fire & forget but this term is true only to some extent. For instance you can fire the missile BVR for example at 30 nm with high closure target (head on), but you can't at this point stop painting the target with radar untill the missile activates it's own radar (the pilots call "pitbull" when it does). While it's still better than supporting the missile all the way to target (like SARH Sparrow), you don't simply fire & forget. It should be called fire, wait & forget ;-) unless you fire from close range at which the missile goes "maddog" right of the rail - doesn't require a radar lock at all.
That's the difference between film and video tape. Video tape degrades and nothing can be down about it. Film if kept cool and dark lasts a lot longer. Now, everything is digital so in theory can be preserved indefinitely. Same reason some films and tv series from the 60's is in better shape than those in the 80's.
i love that responce, cleared kill cleared to kill,, "MIDGEY. " thats it eh, thats a he needs to say to confirm hes goin to ded em, i was thinking, fckin hear the computer,, Bingo,,bingo, , real killing machine love it
Mujtaba Almodhafar no, do your research, it was Operation Southern Watch and it was a Mig-25 Foxbat who broke off from the several other Iraqi Fighters dodging in and out of the 32nd parallel.. The Foxbat than got trapped too far into the no-fly zone where it was then shot down by Lieutenant Colonel Gary North
TRAIL HACKER no do your research, it was Operation Southern Watch and it was an F-16 Fighting Falcon, it was the first F-16, and AIM-120 AMRAAM Combat Kill in the USAF
