FIRST Warhammer The Old World Tournament Report - Square Based GT 3 

The dwarves hate the night goblins because they are the ones that invaded their Keeps.

The new rules encouraging 'Line-Hammer' make the game so much less visually appealing. There's something so satisfying about those old 4x5 units of infantry.

@10:30 - I like how you describe what you will struggle against, and pretty much just say "everything except other Dwarfs".

Part of why these are fun…gives me something to look up. I think the way it worked in the pre-end times. Random movement was distance, but in a straight line.

Small drink!?! Outrageous!!

I am amazed you could do a tourney in my group it has taken on average 3 months to even get the rules!

One of the best batreps I've seen in a long time. Your first game deployment was a near perfect example of how to do refused flank. I believe your loses could be attributed to changes in your deployment strategy as much as anything else. Just an observation and either way excellent report, thank you for sharing.

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When you flee, or fall back in good order, the first thing you do is pivot to face directly away from the unit you are fleeing. That completely changes things - here it looks like you would end up where the dragon is. It creates loads of separation if you flee from an attack on your flank.

Been really enjoying all your reports including these ones - thanks. Just finished the last game so while it's fresh in my mind I couldn't help wondering if the rules for shooting at the squig herd were followed correctly as it seems improbable that all the herders would remain and far more likely that they would have been among the casualties which I think has consequences. Also suspect that the goblins rolled rather better than the dwarfs in taking out those war machines so the hatred rule might well have saved you a load of points, not that I think rerolling to hit for hatred has ever made any sense, but it is what it is.

Illegal units? Oh, the shame! May I suggest playing next year's tournament with an orange beard and mohawk.

I think that Warmachines were over-nerfed. I agree that the old gunline was insane, and shooting monsters off the table turn 1 was detrimental - but It would be better if warmachines got a point discount alongside their nerf, and were more limited in the maximum number you could take. It's so hard to justify the cost of a cannon or GT, for the complete lack of output. They could be a lot cheaper, and just more limited in the number you can take.

REM should be heartened that perhaps he also destroy the anvil.

at ca 49 min, you say the slayer is unbreakable and stays still, unbreakable still gives ground if they lose combat, they just do not make a break test

Wow, these tables are real shooting galleries! With new terrain rules (getting stuck in a forest doesn't leave you there for the reminder of the game) I was expecting more LOS blocking terrain all round, forests in the middle etc. As it is, a shooty army couldn't help but to have a field day.

2:03 I dont believe you have reformed at the correct position as you would have pivoted away from the Dragon before FBiGO and then arrived on the other side of the reavers with no space to reform other than to face left at the reavers, in marching column towards the centre or facing right but maybe out of charge range of the Seaguard. Enjoyed the tournament report thanks!

as many spells as mages can cast currently, I feel like the rune of spellbreaking ought to be a per-turn thing

still at game 2 (watching slow, had to do other stuff), regarding the knights in the flank of the hammerers, page 155 and 156 handles units in the flanks and give ground. the hammerers should have moved diagonally away from the warriors and knights and if they follow up they would do the same diagonal movement and keep the same relative positions in the front and flank.

It's Grungni. Usually pronounced Grun-gi where the second 'n' is silent (like Fungi). That's super pedantic I know, but I've never heard it pronounced any other way until discovering this channel a week or two ago. Love the army though sir, looks great. ;)

Are gobbos allowed to be in front of squigs now in the herder unit? Previously they weren’t allowed to be.

Not 100% sure, but the ghouls at least resemble the late days of Fanatic from GW for Mordheim

Probably been said but last game with the mangler has now been faq’ed. Random movement units have to take the shortest route should they choose to get into contact using the normal charging rules

What's that 8th ed combat resolution counter? Is it useful? Would a printed graph helps equally?

How did you feel the Slayer went? I was disappointed when you threw him away in the first game, but he always at least seemed to get involved after that. My overall impression is that he showed his vulnerability (and his arse of course) more than he succeeded in anything, but then he was faced with some tough tasks. Would he have had much chance of getting to attack on the charge in game 2 if you hadn't challenged with the ranger champion? Not sure what the initiative order would have been or how many attacks he might have had to survive first.

34:00ish minutes, it was just the 8th edition token set that was release alongside the cards and some dice.

In your opening shot of your army, your artillery is on a hill. Made me think Dwarfs should get a free hill to deploy, similar to how Wood Elves get a free forest. At this point, Dwarfs need all the help they can get.

Does the double kill the fanatic when first released?

Game 3, Dwarf mirror match. When the evil dwarf hammerer unit was down to just the one Joe and the King, could the king have left teh hammerer and charged your hammerer unit? Then have his longbeards charge the slayer, kill the slayer and then crash into your hammerers and fight again? Sure that might give you the opportunity to direct attacks from the slayer to the incoming unit , thereby ensuring the evil hammerer unit survives. However, the evil hammerer champion could have issued a challenge to the slayer. Now you need to root for the slayer's glorious death to save a double whammy against your hammerers. or, (back to the question) does that no longer happen in ToW?

On the rules front while I don't have much reason to think you played anything much wrong that you didn't pick up on I do think that some fairly bad rules were shown up at least assuming they were played right. Firstly the one you've talked about quite a bit which you definitely have right - the 'no stand and shoot against random movers'. Didn't cost you here as it did in one of your previous reports, but it's hard to see how it makes any real sense. Why does it matter to the Dwarfs whether something running towards them is doing so with a completely random distance rather than a semi-random one (i.e. normal charge)? If anything it would be more logical if you could S&S against any random mover that moves towards you from within its potential movement range though as this would probably make them close to unusable allowing S&S if they reach would seem like a fair compromise. The Hammerers FBIGO through all those units in game 4 is a ridiculous outcome though I imagine correct. Probably difficult to see how it should be rewritten but very hard to like. I suppose they did suffer a load of casualties for their trouble, but still. The Hammerers' disordered charge in game 2 feels all wrong - if it's played right (no reason to think it wasn't) then it's another example of 'linehammer' nonsense as you've a load of models getting attacks who have got one of their own units between them and the enemy. I accept that lines are going to be necessary for my Dwarfs, but can't pretend to like stuff like this even if this particular incident is probably one that won't happen that much. Does a fanatic remaining alive really stop you getting the points for their unit? Seems totally unfair as you're not allowed to kill them anymore which is also a bad rule in itself. Don't much like the new fanatic rules to be honest, think there should definitely be ways of forcing them to be released and probably more restriction on how many goblins you have to have per fanatic etc.

wow, why didn't he issue a challange with the champion and save the king's points?

I refuse. It's Gru-n-Gni for me. Much like in Fungni

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Just dont rely on apps so much. Best practice is to actually review the rules when learning a new game instead of relying on a probably rushed to get out app. List building in TOW is very straightforward.

Everytime I see large blocks of warriors in an army I sigh.. love the models and the fluff, but they are rubbish in the game..

No edition auto passes armour saves of a 1, a 1 always failed :) It sounds like your chaos warriors back in the day weren't played right 😂

Organ gun can have runes

Linehammer is clearly a real thing. 😮 And it looks weird. To improve the look of the game and improve balance, they should go truly old school and allow units to fight/shoot in 1 to 4 ranks based on weapon/type. Pikes could fight in 4 ranks. Other foot in 3 ranks. Mounted in 2 ranks. Foot could shoot in 2 ranks and mounted in 1 rank. It would look better and makes sense.

That Gyrocopter is not really 90s. It was released along with the Dwarf stuff in 6th Ed, early 2001.

The army builders were never meant as substitutes - look at the real list and its restrictions. that is your fault and your fault only.