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Fischer Stuns The Commentators With Triple Brilliancy! They Said He Lost And Then Gave Him A Prize! 

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Bobby Fischer's chess is from ANOTHER PLANET! Watch him demolish this top GM in a perormance that was called "more witchcraft than chess". If you don't believe Bobby Fischer would give Magnus Carlsen a serious run for his money today, then this game is for you!

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@jwrobin21
@jwrobin21 6 дней назад
It is a bit unfair to try and compare Fischer to modern Grandmasters when modern Grandmasters have access to resources that Fischer could not even dream of.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Yeah, you can only speculate on raw ability
@crackawood
@crackawood 5 дней назад
i think it's worth noting that when bobby was rated nearly 2800 (2785), his nearest competitor was rated 2660 (spassky). amazing this was 50 years ago. i truly think he would've given carlsen a run for his money - especially with the aid of computers
@jwrobin21
@jwrobin21 5 дней назад
@@crackawood I wonder what Bobby's rating would have been after his 20 game winning streak?
@ors5712
@ors5712 5 дней назад
it is a bit unfair to try and limit what Fisher could not dream of. The man has in fact proven that he can imagine better than most.
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 5 дней назад
@@ors5712but he stopped playing chess abruptly, sorry but this diminished his standing in my eyes since, we simply don’t know if his brilliancy would have continued
@marcwordsmith
@marcwordsmith 6 дней назад
Another game from that era (well, 1970 actually) that I love a lot was Larsen-Spassky, in the USSR vs. the World match. Not as stunning as this game, but gorgeous too, and unique in its way.
@marcwordsmith
@marcwordsmith 6 дней назад
I've been looking at chess games (going over them from books) since 1972. I'm sure I have replayed this particular game at least 30 or more times over the years. It's my favorite game of all time, hands down! Playing it through is like listening to an exquisite piece of music. It's just so elegant and perfect. Thanks for taking me on this journey again, in your inimitable clear and enjoyable way. I don't know if you ever watched the classic movie THE WIZARD OF OZ. There is a point in the movie when it changes from black-and-white to color. That's what this game has always reminded me of. You think you're looking at one thing, and then -- like that transposition from black and white to color -- it miraculously transforms into something completely different.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Wow that's a cool analogy -- its been a long time since I've looked at some of these games I am covering so its been an enjoyable journey for me also!
@jennifers6055
@jennifers6055 5 дней назад
Perfect analogy. 🙏
@rolandoorro1741
@rolandoorro1741 3 дня назад
Fischer is more accurate than any chess player. He remains the best
@steadylearner1
@steadylearner1 5 дней назад
Fischer had almost zero family support and computer access, which Carlsen both received, and Fischer winning 6-0, 6-0, 6-0, 9.5-3.5 in the Candidate matches against super GMs without a single loss, not to mention winning the US championship without a loss or draw, were utterly, utterly otherworldly. Carlsen did not achieve those things, even though his accomplishments are also otherworldly. To me, Fischer is just half a notch more otherworldly, with Kasparov not far behind in otherworldliness.
@nonchablunt
@nonchablunt 5 дней назад
id guess your elo at 1000. these resources nowadays make it muuuch harder for anyone to dominate. so carlsen is just as otherworldly, if not more.
@georgeconwell6025
@georgeconwell6025 5 дней назад
@@steadylearner1 Fischer lost one to Petrosian.
@macleadg
@macleadg 4 дня назад
Fischer also won several in a row before the WC matches started. His win streak was technically 20 games, but one was a forfeit, so 19 games at worst. The gap between Fischer and the rest of the world was much bigger than Kasparov or Carlsen. However, he only was on top for a short time compared to those players. It doesn’t makes sense to compare his resources to players of today. It does make sense to compare his resources to the players of his time. Fischer had much less at his disposal than the Russian players, who were funded and supported by the Soviet government, and often colluded to win top tournaments. Also, the second longest win streak at top levels is 7 games (Seirawan did it twice, Caruana once). (BTW, my ELO is 1975, looking at 2000 soon.)
@Bojack_ff
@Bojack_ff 3 дня назад
Preach brother Fischer was levels above his competition I wish he played more world championship Maybe these trash debate btw Magnus and Fischer would not exist
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Yes, the computer absolutely changes everything, giving todays players a huge advantage when it comes to rapid improvement
@tonymidtrud1532
@tonymidtrud1532 6 дней назад
I’m glad I found your channel. This is high quality content and commenting ☝🏻
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Thanks! Glad to have you!
@2199SPUDMAN
@2199SPUDMAN 6 дней назад
The Byrne brothers did not fare well against Bobby! This is arguably the Fischer game that left the greatest impression on me when first studying his games. It reminds me of a lightening fast duel between Samurai kings (started by 12. .. e5!), a flurry of flashing blades, a terrible still pause... and the white king's head falls off after 21. ... Qd7!. The final position is what is shocking: black's pieces are nowhere near the white king. In fact, they are all at or behind black's 3rd rank. What is also apparent is how distance all of white's pieces are from his kingside. Fischer was able to see that in the quadrant from e1-e4-h4-h1, he would have a queen, a rook, and two bishops at his disposal and white had nothing! It's like a SEAL team: a small, heavily armed, highly-coordinated force can defeat a much superior but unorganized force. It's the mastery of the tactics that makes it all work: destructive sacrifice to smash the white king's pawn cover, pins, attraction sacrifices, deflection sacrifices. Just a stunning game.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Wow nice analogy, thank you!
@jozefserf2024
@jozefserf2024 5 дней назад
If Fischer had continued to play like this he may have lost more games but he would certainly have left more brilliancies..
@rolandoorro1741
@rolandoorro1741 3 дня назад
He lost 61 official games only. No one could surpass him even up to the present
@rkuppal5
@rkuppal5 6 дней назад
A brilliant combination by Fischer..It caught all chess experts by surprise...
@perkalov
@perkalov 5 дней назад
Calling Byrne a super GM might be a bit of streach. The only real super GM at the time was Fisher.
@marcwordsmith
@marcwordsmith 4 дня назад
... and a handful of Russians. And maybe Bent Larsen.
@perkalov
@perkalov 4 дня назад
​@@marcwordsmith Not even the Russians should be called Super GMs and most defenetly not Bent Larsen :p It fairly obvious that the world champions prior to Fisher was concidrably weeker then him and just about as strong as eachother. Larsen got away with being quirky because the other GMs couldn't handle it. He would be far less sucessful with his playingstyle today. Fisher, Karpov, Kasparov. Those where on an other level then the rest. Including more would make every GM over 2600 an super GM. For reference... Spassky maxed out at 2690 Fisher at 2785.
@marcwordsmith
@marcwordsmith 4 дня назад
@@perkalov hmmm ... I dunno. They were all gods in my humble opinion. So this game was played in '63 or '64, and among those Russians who were still in their prime (or approaching it) at that time were Spassky, Petrosian, Botvinnik, Tal, Korchnoi, Keres, Smyslov ... I'll grant you none of them rose to Fischer's ultimate stature, or Kasparov's and maybe not Karpov's either, but I would still call them all super GMs, though I think what we're really disagreeing about here simply comes down to semantics. I concede your point that Fischer was a friggin' chess miracle like the world had never seen.
@perkalov
@perkalov 4 дня назад
@@marcwordsmith Sure. But to me an IM is a god :p Most of the Russians you name was in their prime (or past it, Botvinnik was like 50 :p Smyslov and Petrosian 40ish). Fisher wasn't (He was at his peak when he quit). I get the urge to call Botvinnik (as an example) an super GM, but it sorta makes the title pointless. It will include hundreds. There is possibly a bit of inflation in the rating system, but its better for comparison since Magnus oponents has access to the same knowleage as Magnus and Spassky had access to the same knowleage as Fisher (possibly more, tbf. USSR tried to keep things secret). So it is relative to what their opponents streanght. To me, it becomes rather pointless to call everyone above 2650 for a super GM. You'd end up with calling players like Ulf Andersson and Bent Larsen for super GM even though reality they wouldn't have a resonable chance of winning against Karpov or Kasparov.
@gooddognigel9992
@gooddognigel9992 3 дня назад
@@perkalovTal was not “considerably weaker than Fischer”
@georgeconwell6025
@georgeconwell6025 6 дней назад
Thank you. Very few games in this class. Fischer's game against Byrne's brother, Lasker's first game against Pillsbury, Alekhine against Reti. Wow@
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Yeah I want to do some Alekhine soon!
@Maxfr8
@Maxfr8 4 дня назад
Fischer was tremendous, then he went bat-sh!t crazy.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Yeah he kinda lost it
@SomasTomas
@SomasTomas 4 дня назад
it is so annoing than total time wasting for waiting and waiting untill will be usefull information.
@RJohnson2024
@RJohnson2024 5 дней назад
Has anyone scored Bobby's accuracy based on today's engines? We are impressed when Carlson or others are 97% accurate. And that's after they've had years to study with chess engines. It seems Fischer had near today level accuracy but with no computer for him to learn from. This is why he's the GOAT despite his mental collapse after becoming champion. He had nothing left to prove so like Morphy, descended into madness. Carlson has had all the advantages of close competition, chess engines and modern psychological training to keep him sane. Those who say longevity should be a factor in claiming the crown are short selling the genius that leaves those ahead of their time broken.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
I actually made a video awhile a back where I did a blunder check on sample of games of Carlsen, Fischer and Kasparov with Stockfish -- they were all pretty close in accuracy - so especially impressive for Fischer and Kasparov who didnt learn from chess engines
@robertmorin6495
@robertmorin6495 3 дня назад
Why didn't Byrne move his pawn up two spaces to threaten bobby' s bishop immediately after he put it there?
@plsircanihavesomemor
@plsircanihavesomemor 6 дней назад
Fischer was the best chess player of all time, no debate. Given today’s resources he would have reached a rating around 2925
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Quite possible
@michaelreed2787
@michaelreed2787 3 дня назад
Kasparov, the guy who held the world championship for 15 years is crying
@brainletsYT
@brainletsYT День назад
no, absolutely not. magnus would make him find another hobby. you bobby fans just don't seem to get it, do you? magnus pummels every single player in history to ever touch the game. magnus would break bobby's spirit entirely and bobby would run into hiding to never face magnus again out of fear. magnus sees all of this stuff a mile away through the ether. he's a mystical player. he knows what his opponents are cooking before they even know. that is why he is also the greatest technical player in history. he has beaten all chess giants that he has had access to, and bobby would just be another giant that magnus would eat for a light snack
@plsircanihavesomemor
@plsircanihavesomemor День назад
@@brainletsYT You know who disagrees with you? Magnus himself. Says Kasparov is the greatest of all time. Game recognizes game as they say. But if Fischer had grown up with online chess, his obsession would have lead to a player that Magnus would have feared. Fischer was severely disadvantaged in his day having nothing but books to study and his board, alone, for 12 hrs a day. Rarely getting to play anyone near his level. Unlike the best today, playing thousands of high quality games year after year, with the greatest opponents without ever putting on pants. And Fischer’s obsession with computer analysis would have been unmatched. Oh, wait, I said no debate.
@dariogreggio7981
@dariogreggio7981 23 часа назад
​@@brainletsYT you are low iq and low elo if you actually think all of that 😂
@aezzsqdq9717
@aezzsqdq9717 3 дня назад
that stockfish guy seems to be pretty good, being compared to magnus & fischer.
@TheIr2way
@TheIr2way 2 дня назад
if I wanted to play blues clues, I dont need Q's from you ill just paws it
@msg63bretired82
@msg63bretired82 2 дня назад
What a shame it was Fischer got all anti semitic, had the fillings removed from his teeth, and turned into a recluse. Kasparov watched him play blitz with Spassky at some point and commented Fischer was playing around 2200, although Spassky didn't agree. Seems chess was his downfall in the end. 😢
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 20 часов назад
Yeah Fischer got weird. Tragedy for chess.
@johnskulavik7116
@johnskulavik7116 4 дня назад
Incredible game by RJF... long before today's engine analysis tools. Great analysis by Square One Chess. Fisher really knew the value of a Bishop and where to place it.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Absolutely
@alexbeltran5482
@alexbeltran5482 День назад
I could only appreciate the brilliancy with this kind of analysis. Thanks so much for what you do.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 20 часов назад
Your welcome , thank you!
@i.g.l.z.9215
@i.g.l.z.9215 3 дня назад
Amazing game! And such a good commentary, making it ever possible for me to see the amazingness of it 😇 Tthank you! 🙏
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 20 часов назад
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
@Mowgly2117
@Mowgly2117 День назад
Fisher is the best of all times no matter what, everything that he created was with his own mind, not with engines.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 20 часов назад
You really can't underestimate the fact that he had no chess engines
@FormostPanda
@FormostPanda 10 часов назад
Fischer at the height of his power would be better than Carlsen. If Carlsen could go back in time without a chess engine. Fischer beat three Grandmasters, in the candidates, to face Spassky for the world championship. In the candidates Fischer beat Mark Taimanov 6-0 and Bent Larsen 6-0. That had never been done before or after. Then he beat former world champion, Tigran Petrosian 6 1/2 - 2 1/2. In the finals, Fischer forfeited the second game to Spassky and still won 12 1/2 - 8 1/2. Back then all games were classical and they play 21 games. Today they will only play 14.
@lucusshellabarger7283
@lucusshellabarger7283 13 часов назад
I'm not someone who has earned a right to an opinion, however, I beleive Fischer was the most brilliant tactician, (so far) And Carlson Is the most brilliant Strategist (so far). I think Fisher would have the advantage if they played each other several times. Magnus would definatly have the advantage against the Engine. and if you compared Magnus' moves against Fishers' moves comapred to the engine. Magnus would probably have an advantage. (somebody please do this research) I think that Bobby Fisher has an advantage over any human.
@johngrey5806
@johngrey5806 2 часа назад
Why the sunglasses? You're not in the sunlight, and if you don't want people to see you then just turn off the webcam. Seems weird to show yourself and hide at the same time.
@ryderthursday8397
@ryderthursday8397 6 часов назад
i have absolutely no idea, and am probably not ready to be watching your channel yet, but i would appreciate if you would expand on white's advantage where the video begins because my untrained eye sees that they are roughly equal if not a slight edge to black
@chizzelfingers
@chizzelfingers 2 дня назад
if bobby was born the same year as magnus bobby is the chess king . if magnus was birn when bobby was bobby is the chess king.
@josefmalar7837
@josefmalar7837 3 дня назад
simply Magnus = Bobby
@iainbozfelt
@iainbozfelt 4 дня назад
Why show this from the wrong side ie the losing side??
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
I used to do it the other way and got complaints , maybe I should take a poll
@xl000
@xl000 5 дней назад
i am so shocked i won't be able to sleep for the next. 3 days
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Oh dear
@RobMacMusic
@RobMacMusic 5 дней назад
If bobby had engines, he’d make stockfish nervous. He was studying books. BOOKS. Analysis was done on a board taking notes on paper.
@michaelreed2787
@michaelreed2787 4 дня назад
Carlsen is a super genius, has incredible support from his family especially his father, utilizes huge teams of the best seconds in the world for prep, has an amazing coach in Peter Heine Nielsen, and has not come close to cracking 2900, which is still 700 elo behind stockfish. If Carlsen doesn’t make stockfish “nervous” what makes you think Fischer would? A mentally ill individual who wasn’t able to leverage the support of others during his chess career (a major disadvantage).
@olasek7972
@olasek7972 3 дня назад
Bobby lost interest in chess early in his career, he even started to undermine chess with his many statements, quite possibly he would have said that engines “killed chess”, he was mentally disturbed fellow.
@Bojack_ff
@Bojack_ff 3 дня назад
​@@michaelreed2787 wait you think Magnus is more of a genuis than Fischer ? Go check their IQs , Fischer was pure genuis .. the only thing Magnus has is memory advantage .. but if it's mental capabilities nah Fischer dominates Magnus Don't even try to say that again
@michaelreed2787
@michaelreed2787 3 дня назад
@@Bojack_ff Clearly you can’t read so u aren’t a genius…
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Yes! a whole different world back then
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic 3 дня назад
Fischer in his prime was so brutal with the tactics
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Absolutely!
@Dooces
@Dooces 5 дней назад
why is this guy wearing glasses?
@DanM-pw9nl
@DanM-pw9nl 5 дней назад
That's what I want to know
@samsonpug
@samsonpug 4 дня назад
Byrne
@susymay7831
@susymay7831 3 дня назад
Really good game and video ❤
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Thank you!
@jamesmorphe8003
@jamesmorphe8003 3 дня назад
i wish bobby could have played stockfish
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
That would have been extremely interesting and he would have lost
@jamesmorphe8003
@jamesmorphe8003 2 дня назад
@@squareonechess6939 think of how good bobby could have been if he had engines to learn from, and experement
@thomasthorpe7630
@thomasthorpe7630 5 дней назад
Evil language, blasphemy, profanity.
@constantinvasiliev2065
@constantinvasiliev2065 4 дня назад
Thanks!!!!!!!
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Welcome!
4 часа назад
Bobby Fisher is definitely the best of all times.
@michaelreed2787
@michaelreed2787 4 дня назад
Why does the opening explorer call this a KID? It looks like a fairly standard Grunfeld to me.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 4 дня назад
Good point ... while the 1st two moves are technically KID, it only remains that way if d6 is played, so after d5 it becomes a Grunfeld.
@lahcenelakkaoui2664
@lahcenelakkaoui2664 17 часов назад
To much talking Boring vedeo
@Canyouhereit
@Canyouhereit Час назад
He keeps saying 321 is so cringe
@joe3205
@joe3205 13 часов назад
Why are you wearing sunglasses?
@JW-bw8nj
@JW-bw8nj 2 дня назад
I honestly believe If Magnus and Garry were born in the same year as Bobby, they would have ended up being rated below him.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 20 часов назад
I wouldn't be so sure -- I think they all would have been close, but its hard to say -- I analyazed their middle games at one point and they all made pretty close to the same amount of blunders -- I made a video on it a long time ago.
@JW-bw8nj
@JW-bw8nj 17 часов назад
@@squareonechess6939 Magnus wouldn't have had the luxury of learning from super high level chess engines if he grew up playing chess in the 1950s and 1960s. I think Bobby's natural ability and creativity would have been a little too much for Magnus. I know it's impossible to know for sure. Just my opinion.
@lahcenelakkaoui2664
@lahcenelakkaoui2664 17 часов назад
Bla bla bla Boring vedeo
@Molurus73
@Molurus73 4 дня назад
You lost me at 'Robert Byrne who is what we would call today a super grandmaster'. No sir, his peak rating was 2605. Do you at all realize that today Robert Byrne wouldn't even be in the FIDE top 100? It's ok to admire Fischer. But ffs, be reasonable about it.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
He was ranked 12th best in the world at his peak ... when you factor in rating inflation, it seems safe to say he was a super GM of his time
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Spasskys peak rating was only 2690, would his performance and ranking in his time be comparable to what we call Super GM today?
@Molurus73
@Molurus73 2 дня назад
@@squareonechess6939 It's not an official title, but the standard is 2700+, so no.
@Molurus73
@Molurus73 2 дня назад
@@squareonechess6939 Paul Morphy was ranked number one at his peak. That doesn't mean he was close to anyone in the top 20 today. This is not rating inflation. Today's players are actually (a lot) stronger.
@andredobbs5390
@andredobbs5390 5 дней назад
Very impressive
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Thank you!
@joshuacoleman6245
@joshuacoleman6245 5 дней назад
Ty
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 3 дня назад
Your welcome!
@scotmclaughlin2113
@scotmclaughlin2113 6 дней назад
Nice vid 👍
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Thanks!
@moshecallen
@moshecallen 6 дней назад
Just recently found the channel. It seems like good analysis but I'm still struggling with how to make analysis useful for informing my gameplay. BTW If I hada channel, I'd need to wear sunglasses too.
@wcbranitly0692
@wcbranitly0692 6 дней назад
Don't think about the game as a whole, think about each move being a new game that you have to solve. Watch Fischer's tactics and thought-process. Learn Chess logic and reasoning from his moves.
@squareonechess6939
@squareonechess6939 6 дней назад
Thanks! Yeah so many variations calculated behind the scenes that there's no time to cover them all -- so sometimes it ends up looking simpler than it really is!
@guidodenbroeder935
@guidodenbroeder935 5 дней назад
...e5 is very easy to find. White's setup with e3 and Nge2 is weak. ...Nxf2 is even easier.
@MrDavePed
@MrDavePed 5 дней назад
At 18:31 What's wrong with white moves knight at d4 to e2?
@guidodenbroeder935
@guidodenbroeder935 5 дней назад
... Qh3+ 0-1
@MrDavePed
@MrDavePed 5 дней назад
@@guidodenbroeder935 Yeah white king moves to e1 and then what does black do?
@guidodenbroeder935
@guidodenbroeder935 5 дней назад
@@MrDavePed Play chess?
@comic4relief
@comic4relief 4 дня назад
​@@MrDavePedMaybe Bf3.
@MrDavePed
@MrDavePed 4 дня назад
@@comic4relief maybe white responds with rook at d1 to c1? It's probably a lost cause ty
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