The rest of the car community needs to know the correct way to do coilovers height adjustment. Seen so many just adjusting the bottom bracket losing the actual bumpstop function. Hats off to phil for shedding some light into this
Absolutely loved this. Proper balance of nerdy stuff and keeping it interesting. I've got an E46 so keen to replace my current set at some point. Added to the Christmas list to treat myself!
I've got a e46 m3 daily. I wish I went for the softer spring rate in the monopro. When your having a blast they are fine. When you come to order from driftworks, ping them a email to ask what they would recommend
Love an informative video, On the point of suspension not being drift car specific, id be interested to see how fast some drift cars would be with grip alignments
In need of a coilover renew.. my hsd's are really old and crusty now so will be looking out for an e46 non M true set, had the cs2's on a few Sylvia's back in the day too
These will warp or straight rip out your rear strut towers without reinforcements or at least a strut bar (and maybe with them if you’re in a rusty place). I have personally seen this with my own eyes at a local drift track with a different brand but same design, zero hate to what is probably a great product!
*Hi Phil, just wondered if I could persuade you to part with the old kit you just removed please? Am out of hospital now and managed to secure an E36 318is saloon. A rare beast indeed. Really like the look of the E36 nowadays although I'll always miss my E30 M3. At least I have the Petrolicious video to remind me of better times. Anyway, love the videos as ever and always good to see you and Jay working together. Cheers, Mark*
I gotta say , I don’t think the top shock mount of the body would be strong enough to support the whole weight of the car? I mean it’s only usually supporting the damper, the spring perch takes the weight of the car on a significant part of the chassis. I would only fit these if a cage was tied into the top mount otherwise the inner arch will distort to hell.
I thought the same . That metal there isn’t designed for the whole weight of the car. I don’t think even plates would be enough, the arch would distort
Amazing video fellas, been tuned in since e46 v10 restoration began and coppied many e46 ideas to my own project, but i have few questions about the kit as i'm interested in putting same on my car. what is the deal on e36/46 that true rear makes big difference, what is difference between propperly set up divorced setup and true one? Is there any info on how digressive damper actually is, like some graph relative to shock speed or something to relate it/compare it to. What is main difference compared to BC equivalent? Does going too digressive make setup with stiffer ARBs obselete to some degreee, or if digressive curve doesen't taper soon enough that it would be un-tuneable on poor track conditions - if track had lots of bumpy mid/low speed corners would it be possible for suspension to stay in part of damper curve where it goes from digressive to linear and give confusing feedback and act differently throughout corner? My car is more of a weekend warrior (330ci on nankang ar1 or ns2r) that drives in country with far from ideal pavement, and drives in few hillclimb events on said surfaces and makes it's way back home. In dire occasions for few weeks it serves a purpouse of a daily car also. And it comes with standard paperwork so it can be registered in EU? Cheers
I have a perfectly good working set of dual techs that have been on my e46 330ci for 7 years! I feel i couldn't justify buying a new set, although I'd love to just get these checked over and freshened back up by your self's is there anything you could do?
Quick question ive a e46 m3 with offset top mounts adding caster, i also have some z4m caster lower control arm bushings that i want to fit, is there any noticeable negative affects of to much caster? Love the content btw always learn something from you guys
What's the chances of DW developing a HSD / CS2 kit for the Porsche 996 AWD platform?, good quality, sensibly priced coilover kits are very thin on the ground for these cars.
What load does the offsets on the mounts take or tested to . Same as oem I guess . Secondly does it cause any bend/ flex in the shock under load just my thoughts no hardship I want to learn. So many questions. Keep up the good work 💙💪
A lot of generic coil over kits seem to come with spring lengths that are too short for the damper stroke and coil bind can hit in compression before bump stops. I’ve chased this before pulling the springs off to understand the damper and bump stops. There is a ton to consider in setting up correctly. You have a corner weighted car with different ride height at each corner: do you not need to ensure the ARB drop links are free to rotate when the car is static on flat ground and not when at droop to ensure the ARB is not preloaded at static ride height?
Correct, it wasn't mentioned in the video, but all the settings that were transferred from the MonoPro kit had the anti roll bar drop links removed during corner weight and alignment & adjustments made with the wheels on the ground.
@@driftworks Good good. So many little details to suspension which I’m just starting to appreciate. Too hard to cram all detail and caveats into an entertaining and short vid.
I’m looking to go to true rear coilovers on the compact for track use. Can I get these to fit? As it’s got the rear compact offset rear lower bracket I’m guessing I can?
Easy there Jay, we're all brothers here. And I use both- not by choice, but out of necessity ( measuring units). It's ok to be different. By the way- wasn't the metric system started in France? I think the French might have a few names for you, too. 😂😂😂
We have 1 pair of E30 black camber top mounts in stock and could swap them onto the CS2's. When completing the checkout. Just mention in the comments that you would like E30 Black front top mounts, as agreed on RU-vid.
FYI there is no benefit to putting the spring on the rear damper, all that will ever do is add friction in the damper (basically reducing small input sensitivity and "plushness" and adding harshness in their place) due to the sideload from the spring and move the spring load path into places that are not designed to take the extra spring loads. Seperating springs from dampers is only ever a good thing from a damper performance perspective. You are now expecting the rear damper lower bolt (single shear IIRC) to deal with the spring loads on top of the damping and bump stop loads which would be my own major concern, primarily from a reliability perspective but also installation stiffness wise (i.e. the bolt will act even more like a spring that is undamped than it usually does = not great). Noting that E36's are also pretty well known for cracking strut tops does suggest this is a very retrograde step also... Secondly, it would be good to see dyno plots from both the HSD's and these dampers as you can pretty much guarantee they are both digressive in bump (maybe not in rebound) just as pretty much every OEM damper fitted as standard on pretty much all cars made in the last 20 years or so are. Its a good thing sure, but its really nothing special. I do love your video's as you do explain that you are not experts who love to muck around with cars, but just occasionally you do trot out some info that is really not great and this is one of those cases where the "upgrade" will only ever be retrograde in reality. P.S. I also once bought HSD Monopro's from you for my e46 wagon and they were OK. You really do have to tighten the locknuts on the ARB droplink attachment though or you lose tyres pretty quickly in the middle of corners...
Hi Phil can you give me any specs on this kit and the hsd kit as you are using them on the e30. I have a Ford Sierra with extremely similar set up to your e30 and was hoping I could get open and closed lengths etc. I want an inverted type kit and want to use this kit as I am using e34 bmw rear hubs and plan on using e36 front hubs, pretty much a carbon copy of your e30, any specs would be greatly appreciated as if I can use the kit I will purchase it. I may need the hsd kit as the top mount on rear of Sierra is a lot different and I’d struggle with having the adjuster there
